Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-11 Thread Aasif Shaikh
jtd wrote: On Wednesday 11 March 2009 01:33, Rajeev R. K. wrote: There are many angles that you can approach your querstion, but i will focus on 2 of them. Please be patient, as my post will be long. Rest assured, you will see how it all relates to your question by the end, and will

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-11 Thread Rony
Rajeev R. K. wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 13:04:51 scrapo wrote: Interesting the Original Poster must be wondering what is happening. He asked a newbie question - If i am writing code and someone else can

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-11 Thread Rajeev R. K.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:39 AM, jtd j...@mtnl.net.in wrote: On Wednesday 11 March 2009 01:33, Rajeev R. K. wrote: There are many angles that you can approach your querstion, but i will focus on 2 of them. Please be patient, as my post will be long. Rest assured, you will see how it all

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM, jtd j...@mtnl.net.in wrote: So I guess I cannot simply dictate the code and distribute the ogg ;) Or could I... I'll be using a DVD to distribute anyway right... I do hope you dont sound like snoop dogg or horrors Britney spears. Yeah thanks a lot. Now

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread jtd
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 01:01, Aasif Shaikh wrote: Hi All, I am new to GNU/Linux and Open Source world. I had seen lots of open source stable projects on internet, which anybody can download, modify and sell to anybody. Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A* develops a stable and good

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread scrapo
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 08:05:10 Mitul Limbani wrote: Moreover GPL hasn't yet been challenged in Indian court of laws, you are a lawyer if I m not wrong, was are you aware of any such incidents? no Interesting the Original Poster must

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 10:28:03 Dinesh Joshi wrote: As for preferring BSD... that's your choice to make. A bad choice though! Lest you want to work for free for companies such as Apple :) do you mean the developers of postgresql and all the hundreds of projects of the apache foundation

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread Rony
Aasif Shaikh wrote: Hi All, I am new to GNU/Linux and Open Source world. I had seen lots of open source stable projects on internet, which anybody can download, modify and sell to anybody. Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A* develops a stable and good project as an Open Source and

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread Rony
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 08:18:26 Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: GPL doesn't restrict someone to sell a gpl software to others, just that the buyer is not aware of the 4 freedoms he is entitled with. As I understand, with GPL, all you need to do when you sell

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread aniketh patrick
On 10/03/09 9:15 PM, Kartik Mistry kartik.mis...@gmail.com wrote: Atleast, apache comes default installed with Mac OS X and you don't notice it unless you dig a bit :) I have found it increasingly difficult to use the default install of apache on OS X for PHP dev. If you have to use the gd

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009, Aasif Shaikh wrote: I am new to GNU/Linux and Open Source world. I had seen lots of open source stable projects on internet, which anybody can download, modify and sell to anybody. Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A* develops a stable and good project as an Open

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-10 Thread Rajeev R. K.
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 13:04:51 scrapo wrote: Interesting the Original Poster must be wondering what is happening. He asked a newbie question - If i am writing code and someone else can use it without paying me for

[ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Aasif Shaikh
Hi All, I am new to GNU/Linux and Open Source world. I had seen lots of open source stable projects on internet, which anybody can download, modify and sell to anybody. Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A* develops a stable and good project as an Open Source and upload it over the

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Harsh Busa
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Aasif Shaikh aasif.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am new to GNU/Linux and Open Source world. I had seen lots of open source stable projects on internet, which anybody can download, modify and sell to anybody. Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A*

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 01:01:31 Aasif Shaikh wrote: Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A* develops a stable and good project as an Open Source and upload it over the internet and the *PERSON B* from some other country downloads and modify it with his name as an author (basically he is

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Mitul Limbani
Kenneth, On 10-Mar-09, at 6:12, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 01:01:31 Aasif Shaikh wrote: Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A* develops a stable and good project as an Open Source and upload it over the internet and the *PERSON B* from some other

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Mitul Limbani mi...@enterux.com wrote: GPL doesn't restrict someone to sell a gpl software to others, just that the buyer is not aware of the 4 freedoms he is entitled with. As I understand, with GPL, all you need to do when you sell software is to make the

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Prashant Verma
At 08:18 AM 3/10/2009, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Mitul Limbani mi...@enterux.com wrote: GPL doesn't restrict someone to sell a gpl software to others, just that the buyer is not aware of the 4 freedoms he is entitled with. As I understand, with GPL, all you

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 08:18:26 Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: GPL doesn't restrict someone to sell a gpl software to others, just that the buyer is not aware of the 4 freedoms he is entitled with. As I understand, with GPL, all you need to do when you sell software is to make the code of the

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 08:05:10 Mitul Limbani wrote: Moreover GPL hasn't yet been challenged in Indian court of laws, you   are a lawyer if I m not wrong, was are you aware of any such incidents? no -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 08:18:26 Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: GPL doesn't restrict someone to sell a gpl software to others, just that the buyer is not aware of the 4 freedoms he is entitled with. As I understand, with GPL, all you need

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 09:01:56 Raj Mathur wrote: As I understand, with GPL, all you need to do when you sell software is to make the code of the software available to the buyer. and to anyone else who asks for it No, only to people you distribute the software to.  If I give a GPL

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Dinesh Joshi
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar siddhesh.poyare...@gmail.com wrote: As I understand, with GPL, all you need to do when you sell software is to make the code of the software available to the buyer. In case of some embedded products, the code is available as downloads from

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 09:01:56 Raj Mathur wrote: As I understand, with GPL, all you need to do when you sell software is to make the code of the software available to the buyer. and to anyone else who asks for it No, only

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Dinesh Joshi
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: As for preferring BSD... that's your choice to make. A bad choice though! Lest you want to work for free for companies such as Apple :) -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: quote 2.  You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above,

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread jtd
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 08:29, Prashant Verma wrote: At 08:18 AM 3/10/2009, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Mitul Limbani mi...@enterux.com wrote: GPL doesn't restrict someone to sell a gpl software to others, just that the buyer is not aware of the 4 freedoms

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Nachiketa Sadhu
Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: I would have thought that third parties would mean people you distribute the modified software to and not the entire world. Third Party as described by the WordNet is someone other than the principals who are involved in a transaction. So it can mean the entire

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: [snip] I would have thought that third parties would mean people you distribute the modified software to and not the entire world. Precisely. Your only obligation for source is to people who directly got the software from you. You are not

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:18:26AM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: snip the code available to the person he sold the software to. He could even do it on paper if he wants to :) Actually, you are expected to deliver it in computer readable form. With open source, the business model changes

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Nachiketa Sadhu sa...@iitb.ac.in wrote: Third Party as described by the WordNet is someone other than the principals who are involved in a transaction. So it can mean the entire world. True, but it would be more on the lines of someone other than the involved

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?

2009-03-09 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Devdas Bhagat dev...@dvb.homelinux.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:18:26AM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: snip the code available to the person he sold the software to. He could even do it on paper if he wants to :) Actually, you are expected to