Re: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Jay and all, I am sure that the ICANN is more than happy to see this kind of reporting, even though we that have been actively participating in these issues for some time know that this information is inaccurate. I am also very familiar with Mr. Pressmen's writing or reporting style, which

Re: [IFWP] Re: Prepayment becomes reality!

1999-07-22 Thread Jeff Williams
William and all, For you William and DSO.NET it likely means that you may need to change your business plans slightly, like establishing a corp. credit rating and corp. credit account. This will also be true of any other small business owners such as regional ISP's. So william, get that

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Ivan Pope
Jay, You really don't get it, do you? The Reuters story is about ICANN dropping the $1 fee and opening up its board meetings. I don't think the journalist set out to examine the history or future of the namespace. When people start shouting about media bias you wonder how long it is before they

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread R . Gaetano
Ivan, You wrote: Jay, You really don't get it, do you? The Reuters story is about ICANN dropping the $1 fee and opening up its board meetings. I don't think the journalist set out to examine the history or future of the namespace. When people start shouting about media bias you

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Ivan Pope
I thought I must have missed something :-) Ivan, You wrote: Jay, You really don't get it, do you? The Reuters story is about ICANN dropping the $1 fee and opening up its board meetings. I don't think the journalist set out to examine the history or future of the namespace.

[IFWP] incompetent and false reporting as usual from washington post

1999-07-22 Thread Gordon Cook
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/july99/internet22.htm The roots of the current conflict extend back to 1992, when the Internet was the territory of academics and computer enthusiasts. Needing an organization to manage

[IFWP] Reminder: Commerce Committee Webcast This Morning!

1999-07-22 Thread edelman
Just a quick reminder: The Berkman Center will be webcasting this morning's hearings of the House Commerce Committee Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations on Domain Name System Privatization. To tune in, go to http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/events shortly before the 11:00 AM Eastern

[IFWP] Re: NCDNHC Constituency annuncement from ISOC

1999-07-22 Thread Kerry Miller
Don Heath again is talking out of both sides of his mouth, as the Link reference and this post will show when put up against the minuets of the Berlin meeting regarding Don's comments of the very formation of the NCDNHC. Resolution 99.39 -- "with the recognition that the interests

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Gordon Cook
absolutely Jay. how do you think the slime from alex ogilvie earn their hoped for future fees from ICANN except by saying to esther appear to drop your fee and open a board meeting and you will get news stories where you look truly reformed because well will write release telling lazy

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Richard J. Sexton
I think Jay's concern - and mine also, is this. There are currently 248 companies selling domains under top level domanis they manage that are currently in the legacy root servers. Then, on the other hand, we have maybe a few dozen companies that also want to manage a top level domain domain

[IFWP] bias in general

1999-07-22 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Why is the congressinal committee so hung up on NSI saynig "consensus" and implying it means NSI consensus, yet whenever Mike Roberts or Esther say "it was consensus of the Inetrnet community" this is not questioned? -- Richard Sexton | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dns.vrx.net/tech/rootzone

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Gene Marsh
Mine too. At 12:39 PM 7/22/99 -0400, you wrote: I think Jay's concern - and mine also, is this. There are currently 248 companies selling domains under top level domanis they manage that are currently in the legacy root servers. Then, on the other hand, we have maybe a few dozen companies

[IFWP] Congressional Hearings - Soundbyte

1999-07-22 Thread Ellen Rony
My nomination for the best soundbyte of today's Congressional Hearing on "Domain Name System Privatization: Is ICANN Out of Control?" "Consensus is a lot like pornography. You know it when you see it." (Sorry, I don't have attribution). Is there consensus on

Re: [IFWP] Congressional Hearings - Soundbyte

1999-07-22 Thread Craig Simon
How about this one by Jim Rutt... "What's good for the Internet is good for NSI." I don't think you'll get consensus on that one. He also said (as I heard it) in response to a question about whether he thinks NSI owns .com, "That's a metaphysical question." Craig Simon

Re: [IFWP] Congressional Hearings - Soundbyte

1999-07-22 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 22 July 1999, Ellen Rony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My nomination for the best soundbyte of today's Congressional Hearing on "Domain Name System Privatization: Is ICANN Out of Control?" "Consensus is a lot like pornography. You know it when you see it."

RE: [IFWP] Media Bias - Reuters

1999-07-22 Thread Ellen Rony
absolutely Jay. how do you think the slime from alex ogilvie earn their hoped for future fees from ICANN except by saying to esther appear to drop your fee and open a board meeting and you will get news stories where you look truly reformed Tangentially related: David Ogilvy, founder of

[IFWP] Re: The Real World arrives on the internet

1999-07-22 Thread Bill Lovell
At 02:56 PM 7/22/99 -0400, you wrote: From a practical perspective, NSI was correct in doing this. What better way to reduce the unnecessary work flow (delinquencies, mailings, etc.) than by stopping the problems before they started. Congratulations to NSI. Yeah, right. "Congratulations,

Re: [IFWP] Congressional Hearings - Soundbyte

1999-07-22 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 11:33 AM 7/22/99 -0800, you wrote: My nomination for the best soundbyte of today's Congressional Hearing on "Domain Name System Privatization: Is ICANN Out of Control?" "Consensus is a lot like pornography. You know it when you see it." (Sorry, I don't have

[IFWP] Announcement: Hearing Audio Archive Scribe's Notes

1999-07-22 Thread Ben Edelman
As of several hours ago, the audio archive of this morning's hearing of the House Commerce Committee Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations is available online at the Berkman Center's ICANN-Related Events page, http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/events. I've also just uploaded some notes I

[IFWP] Re: Media Bias

1999-07-22 Thread Kerry Miller
The Reuters story is about ICANN = dropping the $1 fee and opening up its board meetings. Ironically, this statement in itself illustrates how easy it is to trim off details in order to get something into print, even if one is not overtly grinding an axe (or working for a penny a word).

[IFWP] Re: [ga] Essay on ICANN

1999-07-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Michael and all, Very nice essay Michael. I liked it allot. However it really doesn't tell us anything that most of us don't already know. Nor does it provide any real insight that might solve some of the problems with making the transition to private competitive based internet. Your

[IFWP] Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] Hilights from today's hearing

1999-07-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Rod and all, Well DOC/NTIA did make this mistake, but haven't got the guts to admit it. But it is well documented. I also agree that this will be a very big deal and battle. However given the choice between having the registry database in the hands of NSI vs ICANN I would at this juncture opt

[IFWP] ICANN teams with DOJ against Commerce and NSI - Rutt Better formAlernative Root

1999-07-22 Thread Gordon Cook
Given today's events, Jim Rutt better announce the formation of a Global Open Registry Association and solicit the 224 country code TLDs to join the Registry Association before the GAC makes them obsolete. The Registry Association better also form its own independent Root and invite the 224

Re: [IFWP] ICANN teams with DOJ against Commerce and NSI - Rutt Better form Alernative Root

1999-07-22 Thread Jeff Williams
Gordon, Brock, and all, Thank you Gordon for sharing this with us. It seems to me though that this should have been released some time ago if possible. Don't you think? Others? Brock, How long have you had a copy of this E-Mail form Mr. Sims? There is much in this letter that explains