[WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread Kevin McMonagle
yes lads, this is my first post in a while, Im looking for a website that had a good 3 col css tutorial on it to refer a colleague to. I cant remeber the name of the designer or its url. Its a very nice site with green vines or ivy hanging down from the top and there are hummingbirds on it.

Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread Andrew Ingram
Kevin McMonagle wrote: yes lads, this is my first post in a while, Im looking for a website that had a good 3 col css tutorial on it to refer a colleague to. I cant remeber the name of the designer or its url. Its a very nice site with green vines or ivy hanging down from the top and there

Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread Matthew Pennell
www.joshuaink.comHope you're not easily offended... ;) ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread russ - maxdesign
I cant remeber the name of the designer or its url. Its a very nice site with green vines or ivy hanging down from the top and there are hummingbirds on it. Does that ring a bell to anyone? -best kevin http://joshuaink.com/

Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread John 'Max' Maxwell
Kevin McMonagle wrote: yes lads, this is my first post in a while, Im looking for a website that had a good 3 col css tutorial on it to refer a colleague to. I cant remeber the name of the designer or its url. Its a very nice site with green vines or ivy hanging down from the top and there

[WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread jdreid
Need I say anymore? www.hansermusicgroup.com Thoughts? -- Thanks! Jeff *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.hansermusicgroup.comThoughts?But at least it all fits above the fold in 800x600! And we all know that's what matters... ;) ***List Guidelines:

[WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_image_replacement_technique.asp --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

[WSG] Article: creating drop cap on the fly

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_drop_cap.asp --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread jdreid
Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.hansermusicgroup.com Thoughts? But at least it all fits above the fold in 800x600! And we all know that's what matters... ;) I have already thrown all the obvious out to the

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread MarcLuzietti
For its intended audience, I don't see the problem. It's targetted at artists, who usually have a higher threshhold for PIA designs and prefer more interesting layout, typography, design, etc. Not every website is intended for the lowest common denominator. I do see a glaring CSS mistake

Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread Kevin McMonagle
it joshuaink.com that i was looking for. BTW I thought that his current emotional blog post about web2.0 and a profitable business model would strike a chord with a project manager i know. Also a question raised by his post - Are dl's deprecated? they work well for displaying business

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Chris Williams
I'm a big fan of the way its only response to resizing of the text is to scoot further and further down the page. Nothing else changes. Very user friendly. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Bad Design Principles Thoughts?

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Christian Heilmann
For its intended audience, I don't see the problem. It's targetted at artists, who usually have a higher threshhold for PIA designs and prefer more interesting layout, typography, design, etc. Not every website is intended for the lowest common denominator. Yeah, but how would these designers

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Chris Williams
What, the fact that there is none? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles I do see a glaring CSS mistake though. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread MarcLuzietti
Hah! So much for a cursory scan. All I did was look at the design. -- Marc Luzietti Flagship Project Bayview Financial, L.P. (305) 341-5624 For its intended audience, I don't see the problem. It's targetted at artists, who usually have a higher threshhold for PIA designs and prefer more

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need I say anymore? www.hansermusicgroup.com Thoughts? We all know the site is bad and *why* it's bad... so what's the point of discussing it? Unless there's something standards-related to gain from this discussion, there's no real

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/4/06, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_image_replacement_technique.asp I would just suggest changing the perfect to a better. Because, you know, there is always

[WSG] IE 7 rendering differences

2006-10-04 Thread Tom Livingston
Title: IE 7 rendering differences Hi list, Is there a significant/any difference in rendering (for testing purposes) between IE7RC1 under XP and IE7 under Vista RC x (or Beta 3 or whatever the latest incarnation is)? Thanks -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph:

Re: [WSG] is DL deprecated? (was: looking for site-ot)

2006-10-04 Thread Christian Montoya
I gave this thread a new title, which is helpful when the subject of a thread changes... On 10/4/06, Kevin McMonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also a question raised by his post - Are dl's deprecated? they work well for displaying business listings from a database and seem semantic to me.

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Mark Arnold
Christian,For the less experienced could you unpack your statement some.That is, tell us more about the *why*.maOn 10/4/06, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need I say anymore? www.hansermusicgroup.com Thoughts?We all know the site

RE: [WSG] is DL deprecated? (was: looking for site-ot)

2006-10-04 Thread Jough
I don't think that was his point at all (to imply that DL is deprecated)... since I'm certain it's not even true. I think his point was that some gutsy frontend designers try to use DL's in situations when a TABLE would actually be the right thing, when there is clear columnar data and only

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/4/06, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need I say anymore? www.hansermusicgroup.com Thoughts? ... this will never market well... it does nothing at all for search engines which pretty much ruins the

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Christian Montoya wrote: On 10/4/06, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_image_replacement_technique.asp I would just suggest changing the perfect to a better. Because,

Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread jdreid
Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need I say anymore? www.hansermusicgroup.com Thoughts? We all know the site is bad and *why* it's bad... so what's the point of discussing it? Unless there's something

RE: [WSG] Bad Design Principles

2006-10-04 Thread Chris Williams
OK then: 1) Completely invisible to Google and other search bots 2) Tiny type that is readable only by 20-year old eyes, and it gets even smaller the further you drill into the site. 3) No response to UA changes in type size to resolve #2 4) Patently inaccessible to those with disabilities.

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: A perfect solution is just a solution that *answers* well a particular problem. Improving on a perfect solution doesn't make it more perfect, it makes it better :) To nitpick, though, by most definitions perfect can't be improved upon, hence it can be perceived as a

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Al Sparber
From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To nitpick, though, by most definitions perfect can't be improved upon, hence it can be perceived as a tad presumptuous to use it... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perfect Reminds me of my old Osterizer food blender and its Infinite Speed

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: To nitpick, though, by most definitions perfect can't be improved upon, hence it can be perceived as a tad presumptuous to use it... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perfect That's interesting. I think I could have used the exact same URL to make my point ;-) As

RE: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Chris Williams
How about a perfect image replacement technique rather than the... -Original Message- From: Thierry Koblentz Subject: Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings 1. conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread David Dorward
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:49:46AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_image_replacement_technique.asp It suffers from the usual problem of having no text at all if images are disabled

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Al Sparber wrote: From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To nitpick, though, by most definitions perfect can't be improved upon, hence it can be perceived as a tad presumptuous to use it... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perfect Reminds me of my old Osterizer food blender and its

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 4 Oct 2006, at 21:07, David Dorward wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:49:46AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/ the_perfect_image_replacement_technique.asp It suffers from the usual

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Chris Williams wrote: How about a perfect image replacement technique rather than the... Chris, I've done that more than two hours ago (following Christian's post) :-) --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/4/06, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Oct 2006, at 21:07, David Dorward wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:49:46AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
David Dorward wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:49:46AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_image_replacement_technique.asp It suffers from the usual problem of having no text at all

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread David Dorward
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 04:31:20PM -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: I don't see that problem occurring on the demo page http:// tjkdesign.com/articles/TIP_6.asp. If I disable images, I see the text. Same here. David, under what test conditions did you not see text with images disabled? Were

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/4/06, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 04:31:20PM -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: I don't see that problem occurring on the demo page http:// tjkdesign.com/articles/TIP_6.asp. If I disable images, I see the text. Same here. David, under what test

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
David Dorward wrote: Same here. David, under what test conditions did you not see text with images disabled? Were you using a simulator (like FF dev toolbar) or did you actually disable images and reload the page? I am using the FF dev toolbar, but its not that uncommon a piece of software

Re: [WSG] Article: using JS to plug IMG in headings

2006-10-04 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 4 Oct 2006, at 21:53, David Dorward wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 04:31:20PM -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: I don't see that problem occurring on the demo page http:// tjkdesign.com/articles/TIP_6.asp. If I disable images, I see the text. Same here. David, under what test conditions

[WSG] Apply style to li only

2006-10-04 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Website design - Pacific Fox Is there a way to apply a style to the li tag only? For example; when I have an ordered list, I would like the numbers to have the same font typeas the paragraphs p, to do so I apply a style to the ul or li but that is inherited by anything within the

Re: [WSG] Apply style to li only

2006-10-04 Thread John Faulds
Put the content inside another tag inside the li and style that tag differently. On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:37:28 +1000, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to apply a style to the li tag only? For example; when I have an ordered list, I would like the numbers to have the

Re: [WSG] Apply style to li only

2006-10-04 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Taco Fleur wrote: Is there a way to apply a style to the li tag only? Yes. li { /* Styles for li elements */ } For example; when I have an ordered list, I would like the numbers to have the same font type as the paragraphs p, to do so I apply a style to the ul or li but that is inherited by