Re: [WSG] Correct markup for a chat board?

2006-10-24 Thread Rob O'Rourke
morten fjellman wrote: Hi list, I'm marking up a chat board, and I'm wondering how I should tag the actual message? The message would typically be: NickName says: Ain't this cool? I was thinking a DL, like this: dl dtNickName says:/dt ddAin't this cool?/dd /dl Am I way off here?

[WSG] Access key does not work in Firefox browser?

2006-10-24 Thread Mihael Zadravec
Is it possible that in Firefox 2.0 Accesskey does not work???In IE 7 works fine but with Firefox 2.0 it just does nothing...Any ideas why?-- Mihael Zadravectel: 00386 51 808136email in msn: mihael.zadravec na gmail.comSkype kontakt:

Re: [WSG] Access key does not work in Firefox browser?

2006-10-24 Thread Frances Berriman
URL of site?On 10/24/06, Mihael Zadravec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible that in Firefox 2.0 Accesskey does not work???In IE 7 works fine but with Firefox 2.0 it just does nothing...Any ideas why?-- Mihael Zadravectel: 00386 51 808136email in msn: mihael.zadravec na gmail.comSkype

Re: [WSG] Correct markup for a chat board?

2006-10-24 Thread morten fjellman
Excellent! Thanks for replying. I have already written the code, so it's good to get it confirmed.Kind regardsMorten Hi list, I'm marking up a chat board, and I'm wondering how I should tag the actual message? The message would typically be: NickName says: Ain't this cool? I was thinking a DL,

Re: [WSG] Access key does not work in Firefox browser?

2006-10-24 Thread Mihael Zadravec
http://www.nsk-slo.si/---On 10/24/06, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL of site?On 10/24/06, Mihael Zadravec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible that in Firefox 2.0 Accesskey does not work???In IE 7 works fine but with Firefox 2.0 it

RE: [WSG] Access key does not work in Firefox browser?

2006-10-24 Thread Berman, Pamela D
It may be that Mozilla has implemented something similar to how Opera works. In Opera, if the Accesskey is already being used by the browser (for example: Alt + B opens the Bookmarks menu), it won't work on the web page. Firefox 1.5 doesn't override browser shortcuts but maybe version 2.0

Re: [WSG] Access key does not work in Firefox browser?

2006-10-24 Thread Horst Gutmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mihael Zadravec schrieb: http://www.nsk-slo.si/ --- On 10/24/06, * Frances Berriman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL of site? On 10/24/06, *Mihael Zadravec* [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Correct markup for a chat board?

2006-10-24 Thread Lachlan Hunt
morten fjellman wrote: Hi list, I'm marking up a chat board, and I'm wondering how I should tag the actual message? The message would typically be: NickName says: Ain't this cool? I was thinking a DL, like this: dl dtNickName says:/dt ddAin't this cool?/dd /dl Using dl for marking up

[WSG] Custom Font Families

2006-10-24 Thread Tom Livingston
Title: Custom Font Families Listers, I am being asked for ammunition against pushing custom font families to visitors of a Web site. Anyone have any references on this? WEFT, eot, etc. I know it has been discussed, but google has been fruitless as of yet. Thanks -- Tom Livingston | Senior

Re: [WSG] Access key does not work in Firefox browser?

2006-10-24 Thread Mihael Zadravec
I realize that it is not a nice thing to use accesskeys that are used by browser software.. that is why I used accesskeys like 1, 2, 3... I belive that is still usefull... On 10/24/06, Horst Gutmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1Mihael Zadravec schrieb:

Re: [WSG] Custom Font Families

2006-10-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On 10/24/06 10:54 AM, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you already against it, if you don't already have such ammunition? Normally, it's a good idea to understand an issue as much as possible before you take sides. I didn't say I was against it. I merely asked for facts that

[WSG] Pure CSS dropdown Menu, take III

2006-10-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Now I'm using CSS to let users tab through the *current* sub-menu if there is no script support, hence this solution is screen-reader and search-engine friendly: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard_friendly_dropdown_menu/ Thanks to Lachlan for the heads up. --- Regards, Thierry |

Re: [WSG] Correct markup for a chat board?

2006-10-24 Thread Rob O'Rourke
James Crooke wrote: *frowns* Using dl for marking up dialogue is generally frowned upon because dl is widely considered to be for marking up definitions. Tantek has provided a more semantic example of in a old presentation of his. See XHTML Compound: Conversation.

[WSG] tabindex doesn't work

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi, this is the first time I try implementing tabindex for navigation. http://new.marinersq.com/html/thierry.html The above page has 6 menu tabs and I have them set from tabindex=1, tabindex=2 and so on...but nothing happens when I try to tab them. I tried using combination of 'shift',

[WSG] hack for IE that is display:table-challenged

2006-10-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Demo: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/TJK_ul2table_demo.asp Article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/make_an_html_list_look_like_a_table.asp --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Correct markup for a chat board?

2006-10-24 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Rob O'Rourke wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: Using dl for marking up dialogue is generally frowned upon because dl is widely considered to be for marking up definitions. Tantek has provided a more semantic example of in a old presentation of his. See XHTML Compound: Conversation.

Re: [WSG] tabindex doesn't work

2006-10-24 Thread David Dorward
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:47:43PM -0700, Tee G. Peng wrote: Hi, this is the first time I try implementing tabindex for navigation. http://new.marinersq.com/html/thierry.html The above page has 6 menu tabs and I have them set from tabindex=1, tabindex=2 and so on...but nothing happens

Re: [WSG] tabindex doesn't work

2006-10-24 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/24/06, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, this is the first time I try implementing tabindex for navigation. http://new.marinersq.com/html/thierry.html The above page has 6 menu tabs and I have them set from tabindex=1, tabindex=2 and so on...but nothing happens when I try to tab

Re: [WSG] tabindex doesn't work

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Oct 24, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: But did you try *tab*? ;) Yes I did. I have the 'enable tab browsing' selected both in Safari and Firefox. hmmm, embarrassing! I guess the problem is I don't know exactly how to 'tab'. Ok how do you do that in Mac? Works fine

Re: [WSG] tabindex doesn't work

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Oct 24, 2006, at 1:02 PM, David Dorward wrote: I suggest you: 1: Stop using image replacement. img elements aren't deprecated. Ah! Thanks. This actually was the next question I was going to ask :) I did a check on Yellowpipe online Lynx Viewer and see that it shows the alt text as

Re: [WSG] a new IE bug? maybe not

2006-10-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tee G. Peng wrote: Both methods work well except with Georg's method, there are slight shortcomings. You've changed/added more from the original than I did :-) I tested my suggested additions/changes on a copy of your original page in Firefox from -6 to +20 font-steps, without any

Re: [WSG] Correct markup for a chat board?

2006-10-24 Thread Lea de Groot
James Crooke wrote: Using dl for marking up dialogue is generally frowned upon because dl is widely considered to be for marking up definitions. Tantek has provided a more semantic example of in a old presentation of his. See XHTML Compound: Conversation.

[WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Taco Fleur
Dear all, We just published our new website, and there is one issue we can't seem to solve, it's related to the logo, it sometimes disappears for a fraction (I believe on mouse over). It is hard to replicate, but it does happen. Has anyone seen this before, and what would the fix be? Also, any

Re: [WSG] Correct markup for a chat board?

2006-10-24 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Rob O'Rourke wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: Using dl for marking up dialogue is generally frowned upon because dl is widely considered to be for marking up definitions. Tantek has provided a more semantic example of in a old presentation of his. See XHTML

Re: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread John Faulds
Also, any other feedback in relation to the site would be much appreciated, eg. mark-up, semantics etc. (as long as it's related to the topic of this list). If you mean your Pacific Fox website, you might want to take a look at it in Opera 9 (8.5 appears to be OK). -- Tyssen Design Web

RE: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Taco Fleur
Yes that's the one I mean, I forgot to include a link www.pacificfox.com.au Thanks, we don't have opera installed, we only code for Mozilla and IE. But am more than happy to hear about any quick fixes you suggest to make it work in Opera.

[WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi, I wonder if there is (free) js code out there that can generate xhtml/css validation links that people put at the bottom of their sites. It's quite tedious to make the links manually, page by page. Thanks! tee *** List

Re: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread ~davidLaakso
Taco Fleur wrote: Yes that's the one I mean, I forgot to include a link www.pacificfox.com.au Thanks, we don't have opera installed, we only code for Mozilla and IE. You may want to view it in IE7. But am more than happy to hear about any quick fixes you suggest to make it work in Opera.

Re: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:07 PM, ~davidLaakso wrote: Taco Fleur wrote: Yes that's the one I mean, I forgot to include a link www.pacificfox.com.au Hi Taco, in Mac, Firefox gives me this error: __ Error Occurred While Processing Request

Re: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Oct 24, 2006, at 4:23 PM, Taco Fleur wrote: Forgot to mention, in Safari 2.0.4, a horizontal line showing up on top of each big button (1. click here to view our portfolio, 2..., 3 4) and the 'mor' buttons. It looks to me it's caused by a:link {text-decoration: underline;}

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Tee G. Peng wrote: Hi, I wonder if there is (free) js code out there that can generate xhtml/css validation links that people put at the bottom of their sites. Maybe more of a philosophical question here, but: why would you want those links on all pages (assuming this is client work, yes)?

RE: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Taco Fleur
OK, so it appears there are some issues, it would help if you actually point the issues out. I don't have access to a wide range of browsers. Any suggestions? - wasn't there some kind of tool that allowed you to see the website in different browser versions? -Original Message- From:

RE: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Taco Fleur
Thanks, this is helpful. I added: #navigation a { text-decoration: none; } Which should have taken care of the issue listed below. -- Forgot to mention, in Safari 2.0.4, a horizontal line showing up on top of each big button (1. click here to

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Chris Williams
You don't need a snippet of code. Just put in: http://validator.w3.org/check/referer And http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer These will check the page that called them... From: Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I wonder if there is (free) js code out there that can generate

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Chris Williams wrote: You don't need a snippet of code. Just put in: http://validator.w3.org/check/referer And http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer These will check the page that called them... As long as the user's browser doesn't have referer blocking, such as is the case

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi Patrick, On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Maybe more of a philosophical question here, but: why would you want those links on all pages (assuming this is client work, yes)? Who are they useful to, if not other developers and/or yourself? Yes, it's for client's

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Tee G. Peng wrote: Yes, it's for client's site. Not out of fame but perhaps marketing purpose. My dedication with extra hours of work for validating markups, css and section 508 (note, I don't just rely on validation tool but my eyes) on each page pay off, because I got a few gigs from

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Include files are your friend (even humble SSIs, if there's no server-side scripting language available) You're right about using referer, it's not reliable. But include files won't make the links submit differently (depending on which document host them), and I think

Re: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread ~davidLaakso
Taco Fleur wrote: OK, so it appears there are some issues, it would help if you actually point the issues out. I don't have access to a wide range of browsers. Any suggestions? - wasn't there some kind of tool that allowed you to see the website in different browser versions? There are

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Include files are your friend (even humble SSIs, if there's no server-side scripting language available) You're right about using referer, it's not reliable. But include files won't make the links submit differently (depending on which document

Re: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Oct 24, 2006, at 7:13 PM, ~davidLaakso wrote: Taco Fleur wrote: OK, so it appears there are some issues, it would help if you actually point the issues out. I don't have access to a wide range of browsers. Any suggestions? - wasn't there some kind of tool that allowed you to see the

RE: [WSG] image disappears sporadically on mouse over - site check

2006-10-24 Thread Taco Fleur
That's it thanks. I see there is a problem with the buttons on capture 7966358.JPG http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=294234 Would anyone know how to overcome this problem? Maybe just get rid of the list item and use absolute positioned DIVs? The problem is only on the MAC. In Opera

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Chris Williams
Assuming that the user in this case is the developer who is developing the site (the only one who has a reason for the output), then they can unblock it... From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links As long as the

Re: [WSG] a js snippet that can generate xhtml/css validation links

2006-10-24 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/24/06, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Include files are your friend (even humble SSIs, if there's no server-side scripting language available) You're right about using referer, it's not reliable. But include files won't make

Re: [WSG] tabindex doesn't work

2006-10-24 Thread Stephen Macchia
What browser are you using as that worked fine for me. You may have tabbed navigation turned off or check your OS accessibility features Steve On 25/10/2006, at 5:47 AM, Tee G. Peng wrote: Hi, this is the first time I try implementing tabindex for navigation.

Re: [WSG] tabindex doesn't work

2006-10-24 Thread Stephen Macchia
Forgot to say you should put your conditional statements into the head, inline styling is a bit to be desired (in my opinion anyway). Steve On 25/10/2006, at 5:47 AM, Tee G. Peng wrote: Hi, this is the first time I try implementing tabindex for navigation.