I would like to know, is it possible to have XHTML 1.0 strict compliant
pop-ups?
It is possible to include javascript so that a page can have a pop-up
link and validate (as an alternative to target) but that doesn't make it
compliant.
Kind Regards
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On 12/13/06, Chris Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to know, is it possible to have XHTML 1.0 strict compliant
pop-ups?
If you want a way without Javascript, then no it isn't. This is within the
spirit of web standards - why should you decide for the user where they want
the page
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Does this help any?
http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/
Look for the link for the pop-up window generator.
Alex
From: Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Compliant pop ups
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:59:08PM +, Chris Price wrote:
I would like to know, is it possible to have XHTML 1.0 strict compliant
pop-ups?
Yes, although pop-ups are still poor usability at best.
It is possible to include javascript so that a page can have a pop-up
link and validate (as
Alex Billerey wrote:
Does this help any?
http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/
Look for the link for the pop-up window generator.
It doesn't actually because the generated html includes a target attribute.
David answered my question but the issue it leaves me with is: many
people
Dear members,
I would like to ask your opinion about the use of the Skip to Main
Content and Skip to Sub Navigation links.
We recently designed our second web site http://www.seoworkers.com and
as we did not want to have the links
visible, we have hidden them with CSS techniques.
My
Chris Price wrote:
I would like to know, is it possible to have XHTML 1.0 strict
compliant pop-ups?
It is possible to include javascript so that a page can have a pop-up
link and validate (as an alternative to target) but that doesn't make
it compliant.
This is a hook-free approach:
Chris Price wrote:
David answered my question but the issue it leaves me with is: many
people find pop-ups very useful and often request them. What are the
problems for people with javascript enabled browsers?
One problem is with screen-readers (for example JAWS). JAWS has partial
javascript
Hello!
I belive that it depends on what CSS techniques are you using... (?)
As much as I know (read: think) ... display:none; will not do the work so
well because it will make the content (your links) invisible to
screenreaders...
Moving it from the visible field with negative margin is better
Mybe it would be good to provide an alternative link (it does not have to be
displayed to the screen)...
On 12/13/06, Emma Sax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris Price wrote:
David answered my question but the issue it leaves me with is: many
people find pop-ups very useful and often request
John S. Britsios wrote:
Dear members,
I would like to ask your opinion about the use of the Skip to Main
Content and Skip to Sub Navigation links.
We recently designed our second web site http://www.seoworkers.com and
as we did not want to have the links
visible, we have hidden them with
Hi all,
I had the last letter of some floated form elements appearing on the
next line. I've managed to get rid of the letter itself with position:
relative; on the form input but there's still a 'phantom line' in IE
adding a load of 'padding' to the bottom of the label or fieldset.
The problem
Rob O'Rourke wrote:
I had the last letter of some floated form elements appearing on the
next line. I've managed to get rid of the letter itself with
position: relative; on the form input but there's still a 'phantom
line' in IE adding a load of 'padding' to the bottom of the label or
fieldset.
Barney Carroll wrote:
If you're thinking about this in the first place you may want to
consider the increasingly popular philosophy that navigation is 9
times out of 10 the last thing someone wants to see first on any page
(you just used it to get here, it's only if you've made a mistake
that
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
This might be confusing for sighted keyboard users as tabbing navigation
would work differently than what they would expect; this would be different
if the menu was some vertical navigation bar (right hand side next to
content) rather than an horizontal one showing above
On the statement of people requesting the pop-ups
You're right, many people do request them, but this is typically based
on past experience and believing that a popup is the only solution. As
the developer, its your job to either a) do what ever the client wants,
including using popups,
On 13 Dec 2006, at 17:54:14, Barney Carroll wrote:
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
Also, I think (I may be wrong though) the WCAG 2 (FWIW) recommends to
display the elements in the same sequence as they show in the
markup.
Would be interested to see if this is the case. Quickly skimmed the
Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly if you're entirely reliant on visual presentation and
tab-browsing (what kind of a demographic is this, I wonder?), I can
imagine some users might get infuriated at going through the header and
starting to plow around the content and extras
� wrote:
Rob O'Rourke wrote:
I had the last letter of some floated form elements appearing on the
next line. I've managed to get rid of the letter itself with
position: relative; on the form input but there's still a 'phantom
line' in IE adding a load of 'padding' to the bottom of the label or
Steve,
Its interesting to hear that the original version isn't working. It's
also a shame since its such a nice effect and solves so many other
little problems.
There are a bunch of implementations, such as:
http://particletree.com/features/lightbox-gone-wild/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have looked at http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox/
with JAWS
7.10 and it's not good. The overlay is displayed if the user clicks
the link but JAWS does not read any of the content in the overlay. In
fact the user won't have any idea that the page has
There are a bunch of implementations, such as:
http://particletree.com/features/lightbox-gone-wild/
http://serennz.sakura.ne.jp/toybox/lightbox/
Here's another implementation using jQuery:
http://jquery.com/demo/thickbox/index.htm
Another issue I found with all of these implementations is
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
On 13 Dec 2006, at 19:39:17, Rob O'Rourke wrote:
I found the PIE page i was looking for [1], it was the duplicate
characters bug however none of the triggers mentioned on that page
were present... as far as i could work out anyway.
[1]
Hi all, I hope your December is going well. :)
Long story short, I am looking for a CMS that meets as many of the below
items as possible (not really in any particular order):
0. CSS/XHTML, RSS/XML, with good to excellent template management
system. As table free as possible. Light-weight.
Have a look at Drupal (drupal.org), I think it (plus added modules) can do
all on your list.
May take a little getting into some aspects, but wow!
Best
Caterina
- Original Message -
From: Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006
Depending on whether you are able to move out of open source your requirements
are met out of standard modules by Colony.
http://www.thinkcolony.com
- Original Message -
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org listdad@webstandardsgroup.org
To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org
Caterina Carola wrote:
Have a look at Drupal (drupal.org), I think it (plus added modules) can
do all on your list.
May take a little getting into some aspects, but wow!
Oooh, good call. :)
IIRC, I have heard good things about Drupal -- never used it though...
but it looks like it would be
Richard Conyard wrote:
Depending on whether you are able to move out of open source your
requirements are met out of standard modules by Colony.
http://www.thinkcolony.com
Ah, yes, I am pretty sure I include a non-open source option into the
budget.
Thanks for the suggestion, reading
Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote:
You're right, many people do request them, but this is typically based
on past experience and believing that a popup is the only solution.
As the developer, its your job to either a) do what ever the client
wants, including using popups, or b) advise them of the
Rereading your requirements the functional element may also be able to be
handled by plone as well.
- Original Message -
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org listdad@webstandardsgroup.org
To: cms@webstandardsgroup.org cms@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wed Dec 13 23:08:34 2006
Subject: Re:
Richard Conyard wrote:
Rereading your requirements the functional element may also be able to
be handled by plone as well.
Ah, right... IIRC, I have also heard good things about Plone.
Researching that as an option now. Thanks again for the advice, I really
appreciate the help. :)
Colony
Steve,
You mentioned that lightbox implementations are not accessible in that JAWs
does not read any of the displayed content I see this as a real problem
as the new approach to displaying images etc has been to use lightbox or
something similar.
Joe, it would be good to know whether
Hi Micky,
You haven't stated whether you were looking for a paid or open source
solution but I offer the same advice to you that I offer anyone looking for
the 'right' CMS.
Firstyly, visit CMS Matrix - www.cmsmatrix.org - narrow the scope of the
matrix by searching
Micky,
Sorry, mate. A couple more things.
It's www.opensourcecms.com , not .org.
Go easy on the comparison check at cmsmatrix.org. If at first you get no
results, whittle down your criteria (starting with Root and Sheel Login).
So far as open source solutions go, Drupal and TYP03 can both
Paul Noone wrote:
You haven't stated whether you were looking for a paid or open source
solution but I offer the same advice to you that I offer anyone
looking for the 'right' CMS. ...snip...
Hi Paul! Thanks for the great info!
I think I am leaning towards an Open Source solution.
I was not
Quoth Micky Hulse at 12/14/06 09:36...
IIRC, I have heard good things about Drupal -- never used it though...
but it looks like it would be a good pick for my requirements.
I've played with Drupal a couple of times, but have never delved too
deep. Most things look OK, but the URI scheme is
Hi Matthew, many thanks for you help and guidance. :)
Matthew Smith wrote:
I've played with Drupal a couple of times, but have never delved too
deep. Most things look OK, but the URI scheme is ghastly, although I
guess that it should be possible to change that without too much effort.
Ah,
Paul Noone wrote:
It's www.opensourcecms.com http://www.opensourcecms.com , not .org.
Ah, thanks for the correction. :)
Go easy on the comparison check at cmsmatrix.org. If at first you get no
results, whittle down your criteria (starting with Root and Sheel Login).
Sounds good. So far I
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 13:16 +1030, Matthew Smith wrote:
I've played with Drupal a couple of times, but have never delved too
deep. Most things look OK, but the URI scheme is ghastly, although I
guess that it should be possible to change that without too much effort.
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