[snip] WCAG Samurai process inaccessible to, and hidden away from,
all but the few invited elite.
I will admit, however, it may be too early to pass judgement on the WCAG
Samurai right now, and it's only fair that we let them give it a shot.
After all, the members are unlikely to be weighed down
From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sarcastic pony
Looks like most efforts towards separation of content and
presentation
may cause severe accessibility-failures[1] in the future.
Looks like there will be no need/use for valid markup either -
according
to the latest WGAC 2.0 draft.
Ref:
Sparber
Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:08 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS is dead... use markup for presentation.
From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sarcastic pony
Looks like most efforts towards separation of content and
presentation
may cause severe accessibility
Which parts/paths do you think we should choose to follow?
As enlightend/informed developers we continue doing what we've been doing.
WCAG 2.0 won't make accessible design suddenly inaccessible.
A different but related question is which path should we be advising the
less enlightened/informed
Which parts/paths do you think we should choose to follow?
As enlightend/informed developers we continue doing what we've been
doing.
WCAG 2.0 won't make accessible design suddenly inaccessible.
No, but it might make it fail WCAG 2.0, as using any form of layout
where the onscreen flow
Al Sparber wrote:
It's hard to tell who the good guys are :-)
http://wcagsamurai.org/
In principle, it's a very good idea for the community to begin
addressing accessibility issues and the serious problems with WCAG 2.0
themselves, but my main concern with the the WCAG Samurai is this:
|
Quoting Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
sarcastic pony
Looks like most efforts towards separation of content and presentation
may cause severe accessibility-failures[1] in the future.
Rubbish. This is no different to the current 1.0 Organize documents so
they may
be read without style
Quoting Jake Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No, but it might make it fail WCAG 2.0, as using any form of layout
where the onscreen flow doesn't mirror the html flow is a big no no.
*Only* if the different layout *fundamentally changes the meaning of the
content*. Don't be hasty to jump to
It does kick in if I'm using tables for layout:
The semantics of some elements define whether or not their content
is a meaningful sequence. For instance, in HTML, text is always a
meaningful sequence. Tables and ordered lists are meaningful
sequences, but unordered lists are not.
At 06:43 AM 5/23/2006, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
sarcastic pony
Looks like most efforts towards separation of content and presentation
may cause severe accessibility-failures[1] in the future.
...
[1]http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/#F1
My take on this passage is different. The
specific
After looking at the responses, I guess 'use common sense, and wait till
the dust settles before changing anything of what works now', is the
most appropriate action for the time being.
That's the path I was going to follow anyway, so it is good to see that
I'm not too far off from the
From: Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| WCAG Samurai will toil in obscurity for the foreseeable future.
| Membership rolls will not be published, and membership is by
| invitation only.
-- http://wcagsamurai.org/
While I do have the utmost respect for Joe Clark and the other invited
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
After looking at the responses, I guess 'use common sense, and wait till
the dust settles ...
Georg
Maybe you should tend the Rhododendrons and quit stirring up trouble...I
can tell, this is going to go on for weeks, if not months-- perhaps
years, if not decades. Time
David Laakso wrote:
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
After looking at the responses, I guess 'use common sense, and wait till
the dust settles ...
Georg
Maybe you should tend the Rhododendrons and quit stirring up
trouble...I can tell, this is going to go on for weeks, if not
months-- perhaps years,
From: David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Laakso wrote:
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
After looking at the responses, I guess 'use common sense, and
wait till
the dust settles ...
Georg
Maybe you should tend the Rhododendrons and quit stirring up
trouble...I can tell, this is going to go on
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