RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-22 Thread Chris Williams
Completely agreed. IMHO, * html works just fine when used as intended (in conjunction with a conscientiously applied program of oral hygiene and regular professional care...) :) -Original Message- From: Lachlan Hunt Subject: Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to Don'

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-22 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Ted Drake wrote: Don't use * html! That won't work. Yes, it will work! Don't get sucked into that nonsense about not using * html for anything. Assuming you're using standards mode and you only want to target IE6 and earlier, * html is just fine. The only time it is not appropriate is whe

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Who knows what future problems may come with *html? Future problems when targeting back to particular (dead) browsers do not bother me. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelin

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
sen Design Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:32 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to > Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style > sheet. I've been doing that a bit lately as sometimes there may be only o

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread John Faulds - Tyssen Design
Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. I've been doing that a bit lately as sometimes there may be only one or two rules that are different between <= 6 or 7 and it doesn't seem worth the effort creating a separate stylesheet for both and then conditional

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. That is what I was writing about. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
Jan Brasna Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to > Don't use * html! That won't work. How comes? You maybe didn't understand what I meant. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.ja

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. Sorry, thought you meant PNGs placed on top of a tiled background. Yup, I thought so ;) The issue is when you'd need the actual transparent background to repeat, then you can't use the filter. It would be handy in various stretching/collap

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Don't use * html! That won't work. How comes? You maybe didn't understand what I meant. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.c

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 21 Sep 2006, at 17:55, Ted Drake wrote: No no no no no Don't use * html! That won't work. * html will work to separate IE6 rules from IE7 rules, as IE7 no longer understands it (given that it's parsing in strict mode). See Rega

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
21, 2006 9:21 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to > > > > >

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
I've had significant, if not too much experience with IE7 and transparent png behaviors. http://last-child.com/index.php?s=ie7+transparent+png Here's what I would suggest. IE6 is going to become a minor player for the majority of web sites within a year. Microsoft has an aggressive schedule p

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/21/06, Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. Sorry, thought you meant PNGs placed on top of a tiled background. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guid

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. Works fine on my site. Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** Li

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Doug Wigginton
In my CSS book, the author speaks about handling this issue by providing alternate images in GIF format for IE browsers and specifying these in a supplemental IE-targeted style sheet. The gif images might represent a slightly degraded design, but the idea is that the site is still workable.   There

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/21/06, Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IE7 handles transparent PNGs, and IE5.5 and 6 can use a proprietary > filter to display them correctly. Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. Works fine on my site. *

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-20 Thread Jan Brasna
IE7 handles transparent PNGs, and IE5.5 and 6 can use a proprietary filter to display them correctly. Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. The stats I have (massive europe-wide company dealing directly with all types of consumer) is that IE5 is below 0.1%, IE5

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-20 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/21/06, Able Net Design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So does anyone have a hack for transparent png's or do the later versions of IE come inline with FF What version of IE is mostly used? IE7 handles transparent PNGs, and IE5.5 and 6 can use a proprietary filter to display them correctly. T