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2007-02-20 Thread wendy . pang
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Re: [WSG] (Georg) equal heights within equal heigh wraper

2007-02-20 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Feb 20, 2007, at 4:12 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Georg, - #left is an independent container, so it will, and should, only affect height of its parent - #wrap. - #right is on its own, and will not be affected by, or have an effect on, #left. - #right - and all containers inside #right - w

Re: [WSG] Site Issue - opinions please

2007-02-20 Thread Charles Eaton
On Feb 20, 2007, at 10:47 AM, David Dorward wrote: a better setup (IMHO), is to use a "definition list", drop your image in the background of the , giving it the image size, use and 3 's in a two row setup to overlay the image. add text [no display] and links, ... your in business. Suf

Re: [WSG] Float Hell, or...?

2007-02-20 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
It's pretty obvious that you are coding for IE first, then checking firefoxthat never works. Get it right in firefox first, them make an "IE only" stylesheet with the box model fixes. *Joseph R. B. Taylor* Sites by Joe, LLC /Custom Web Design & Development/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 www.sites

Re: [WSG] Float Hell, or...?

2007-02-20 Thread John Faulds
Is this spam? On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:18:31 +1000, Lisa Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pretty plase, see: http://tinyurl.com/2gd54w and the css... http://tinyurl.com/ynwq9d

[WSG] Float Hell, or...?

2007-02-20 Thread Lisa Benham
Pretty plase, see: http://tinyurl.com/2gd54w and the css... http://tinyurl.com/ynwq9d Float hell, or... collaps

[WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (21/2/07)

2007-02-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
** This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements ** This email covers: - Links for light reading - WSG and Industry events - Web standards related jobs (2 job this week) If

Re: [WSG] hr won't turn black

2007-02-20 Thread Mordechai Peller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a comparison, try removing all of your P tags, and see if the white space they give you is purely presentational! Paragraph elements only give white space because they are told to by CSS. Instead of paragraphs, I could use almost any other element (depending on the p

Re: [WSG] Site Issue - opinions please

2007-02-20 Thread David Dorward
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:36:18 -, Charles Eaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the standards use of the and tags (like I'm doing here on the 2007 image of the left column: W3C says: "try to avoid server-side image maps" [xhtml] If it is usi

Re: [WSG] Site Issue - opinions please

2007-02-20 Thread Charles Eaton
W3C says: "try to avoid server-side image maps" [xhtml] a better setup (IMHO), is to use a "definition list", drop your image in the background of the , giving it the image size, use and 3 's in a two row setup to overlay the image. add text [no display] and links, ... your in business. -chuck =

Re: [WSG] Site Issue - opinions please

2007-02-20 Thread David Dorward
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:32:15 -, Patrick Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the standards use of the and tags (like I'm doing here on the 2007 image of the left column: http://www.heliosdg.com/mgcaf/)? I did some testing by turning images o

RE: [WSG] Site Issue - opinions please

2007-02-20 Thread Patrick Bruno
I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the standards use of the and tags (like I'm doing here on the 2007 image of the left column: http://www.heliosdg.com/mgcaf/)? I did some testing by turning images off in IE7 and Firefox but the alt tag data doesn't appear. Does that mean screen reader

Re: [WSG] Opera 9.10 Margin

2007-02-20 Thread Ben Buchanan
However I already have a background image on the elements (the vertical pipe separating each link), and I have not found a way to add this extra image as a background the the first element. Have you tried adding it to the instead? Just use a contextual selector after that... li.first a { back

Re: [WSG] Article: creating drop cap on the fly

2007-02-20 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Kevin McMonagle wrote: I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_drop_cap.asp Looks good, if you decrease the font size by one or two than the drop cap indent goes way in. Is there a way to fix that. -best kv

Re: [WSG] (Georg) equal heights within equal heigh wraper

2007-02-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tee G. Peng wrote: http://project.lotusseedsdesign.com/tee_test/4col.html If you click 'open' in the outer left column, it get expanded and you can clearly see the inner column couldn't adjust its height I only had a quick look on the source-code, but the layout seems to behave as it should -

re: [WSG] Article: creating drop cap on the fly

2007-02-20 Thread Kevin McMonagle
> I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: > http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/the_perfect_drop_cap.asp > Looks good, if you decrease the font size by one or two than the drop cap indent goes way in. Is there a way to fix that. -best kvnmcwbn

RE: [WSG] hr won't turn black

2007-02-20 Thread michael.brockington
I thought that this 'discussion' had been done and dusted a week or two ago, but it seems not. In some cases (though certainly not all) an HR _does_ have semantic value, that is why its name is being changed to 'seperator' in HTML5, apparently. By the sounds of it, the poster is using an HR as

Re: [WSG] Opera 9.10 Margin

2007-02-20 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Thanks David - look forward to the new release. I've put in a dreaded to solve the problem for now. Much appreciated Sarah :) > You could possibly use a dotted border instead of an image for the > vertical pipe, but the one pixel issue is a Opera bug as it works > correctly in our public bu

RE: [WSG] trying to justify webstandards

2007-02-20 Thread Chris Taylor
I agree entirely with Rachel, web standards are (or should be) independent of server-side technology. It's the HTML/CSS that gets outputted to the browser that matters, regardless of what creates that output. I split my time between .net and PHP and web standards are perfectly possible in both (alt

Re: [WSG] Opera 9.10 Margin

2007-02-20 Thread David Storey
You could possibly use a dotted border instead of an image for the vertical pipe, but the one pixel issue is a Opera bug as it works correctly in our public builds of Opera 9.2. Development is wrapping up shortly on 9.2, so it should be out soon. you can test the page using this build by

RE: [WSG] Opera 9.10 Margin

2007-02-20 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Kepler, Many thanks for your reply. However I already have a background image on the elements (the vertical pipe separating each link), and I have not found a way to add this extra image as a background the the first element. Do you have any suggestions please? > Hi Sarah, > > The problem

Re: [WSG] when i turn css off

2007-02-20 Thread Dwain Alford
lol. sometimes i love sarcasm. dwain On 2/20/07, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Feb 19, 2007, at 11:18 PM, Dwain Alford wrote: > when i tiurn css off on a page i have done everything reverts to > default (i.e. h1, h2, etc.) and lines up down the left side of the > page. without