At 02:14 PM 12/14/2003 +1100, Paul Smith wrote:
I am still new to all the 'legals' side of things, and how PMC's work etc.
If a sister project was unable, or unwilling to donate the code base to
Apache and come under the Apache umbrella, I would still recommend that they
have a role within the
Hi, my vote,
+1 for the projet update+1 for Ceki to be the first chairman. Regards, Guillaume Moulard [EMAIL PROTECTED]Project : LOG4PLSQL : Oracle Database Loggin toolssee : http://log4plsql.sourceforge.net/ Hello, Several months ago I floated the idea of creating a top level project covering
Hi,
+1 for me !
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-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
Hello,
Several
Thanks Paul.
I would be honored to serve as the chairman for Logging Services
project.
Let us wait to see whether my candidacy is endorsed by the other
committers and whether there are other candidates.
At 02:21 PM 12/14/2003 +1100, Paul Smith wrote:
Oh, and as for the potential Chairman, I would
Howdy,
Seems like the natural choice ;) +1.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
Thanks Paul.
I
+1
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
Howdy,
Seems like the natural choice ;) +1.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
, December 15, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
Howdy,
Seems like the natural choice ;) +1.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:55
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
Howdy,
Seems like the natural choice ;) +1.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
Subject to any new last minute developments, I'll submit the proposal this
Friday.
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Hi,
I'm the developer and maintainer of a log4j sister project: Log4PHP.
After reading the initial draft and ml comments I give my +1 to the LS
project.
Since log4php is a pure port of log4j it's not a problem for me to change the
license.
However, I have some questions:
1. The draft talks
Hi Marco,
At 08:15 PM 12/15/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,
I'm the developer and maintainer of a log4j sister project: Log4PHP.
After reading the initial draft and ml comments I give my +1 to the LS
project.
Since log4php is a pure port of log4j it's not a problem for me to change the
license.
Very
Hi all,
+1 on behalf of log4net.
Interoperability with log4j is something we have been working towards for
some time now. We have it for some protocols, but not for others. A single
apache PMC seems the best way to achieve this.
Log4net is already Apache licensed so that is not an issue.
Also
robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 12 Dec 2003, at 10:04, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
FWIW the Log interface seems about right. i'd probably now go for a
truly minimal API (two public classes) with private classes providing a
truly base implementation (log error and fatal to standard error). a
single
On 12 Dec 2003, at 10:04, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
snip
As for a better commons-logger, I think any bridging API which is
*simpler* will result in a net gain. However, my experience also tells
me that abstracting independent APIs performing similar tasks is a
major undertaking, much more arduous than
to sustain it.
You have my +1, sorry for the delay.
cheer,
Paul Smith
-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü
To: Log4J Developers List
Sent: 12/12/03 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
At 08:00 AM 12/12/2003 +1100, Paul Smith wrote:
Could I ask when would
Oh, and as for the potential Chairman, I would like to nominate Ceki, if you
are interested in taking on the role.
-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü
To: Log4J Developers List
Sent: 12/12/03 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
At 08:00 AM 12/12/2003 +1100
At 01:03 PM 12/11/2003 -0800, Mark Womack wrote:
Sorry for the delay and my general absence from the discussions. Things are
still crazy here at work.
+1
My comments on the subject:
1) If the sister projects decide to not particpate, then I think the
need/momentum for this TLP dissipates. So,
At 08:00 AM 12/12/2003 +1100, Paul Smith wrote:
Could I ask when would this proposal be submitted to the board?
I'd like to submit it as soon as we have the OK of the log4j-dev
committers. We also need to decide who the chairman for Logging
Services PMC will be. Any volunteers?
I would also dearly
+1
BTW, can we add something in there about trashing commons-logging :-) Just
kidding (but only a little bit).
Jake
Quoting Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello,
Several months ago I floated the idea of creating a top level project
covering logging services. The idea was received
Howdy,
I have two questions before I vote ;)
1. Who is the Mr. Tobee that is mentioned on the draft proposal?
2. What about commons-logging?
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:07
As a top-level Apache project, we will have to carefully study any proposal
which is within the boundaries of our mission. So if commons-logging
decides to join LS we will have to give an honest consideration to their
proposal. The same applies if a member of the Logging Services PMC makes
At 10:09 AM 12/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Howdy,
I have two questions before I vote ;)
1. Who is the Mr. Tobee that is mentioned on the draft proposal?
Mr. 'Tobee Determined' is yet to be determined.
2. What about commons-logging?
See my previous message.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
:24 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project
At 10:09 AM 12/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Howdy,
I have two questions before I vote ;)
1. Who is the Mr. Tobee that is mentioned on the draft proposal?
Mr. 'Tobee Determined' is yet to be determined.
2
Please feel free to contact any sister project you deem appropriate. If you
do, you can mention that sister project will be treated on an equal
footing, with proportional representation in the PMC.
At 09:20 AM 12/11/2003 -0800, Scott Deboy wrote:
+1
I'm curious to find out what the various
Could I ask when would this proposal be submitted to the board?
I would also dearly hope that as many of the sister projects as possible
would join us to form a real logging community.
I'd be inclined to withhold my vote until a feel for the reception of
the idea has been gathered from the
Sorry for the delay and my general absence from the discussions. Things are
still crazy here at work.
+1
My comments on the subject:
1) If the sister projects decide to not particpate, then I think the
need/momentum for this TLP dissipates. So, their support is key, in my
mind. I think that
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