RE: Re[2]: Log4j Configuration with Servlet

2002-12-13 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, If we think it is a good, useful example of a repository selector, and to be useful it needs to live at the same location as the log4j jar, why should we not include it in the official distribution? When does it become core, in your opinion? In my mind, it may be possible that the log4j

RE: Re[2]: Log4j Configuration with Servlet

2002-12-13 Thread Jacob Kjome
Yep, There is no harm in using Log4j within WEB-INF/lib even if Log4j exists in a parent classloader. It doesn't affect any other apps the the current app is free to use whatever version of the jars they want. In the context of using a repository selector, putting log4j.jar in the

RE: Re[2]: Log4j Configuration with Servlet

2002-12-12 Thread Mark Womack
Howdy Jacob, Actually, If you look in my post, I mention more than just the Log4jInit servlet. I also mention a servlet context listener (SCL) called Log4jApplicationWatch. I actually use that currently to do cleanup such as shutting down loggers and appenders of the currently used

RE: Re[2]: Log4j Configuration with Servlet

2002-12-12 Thread Mark Womack
Actually, the main thing I'd propose is having Log4jCRS (Log4j Contextual Repository Selector) be included with the Log4j distribution. The reasons for this are described in my post that Mark linked to above. I know this is not a vote, but +1 on that. As part of the contrib tree, not

RE: Re[2]: Log4j Configuration with Servlet

2002-12-12 Thread Mark Womack
One possible one-shot-kill-all-birds solution is to use the JNDI space. See the updated version of http://www.qos.ch/logging/sc.html (in particular JNDIRS). What do you think? I also suggested the JNDI solution in commons-dev in a somewhat different context. It seemed to be well received.

RE: Re[2]: Log4j Configuration with Servlet

2002-12-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 15:54 12.12.2002 -0800, Mark Womack wrote: One possible one-shot-kill-all-birds solution is to use the JNDI space. See the updated version of http://www.qos.ch/logging/sc.html (in particular JNDIRS). What do you think? I also suggested the JNDI solution in commons-dev in a somewhat

RE: Re[2]: Log4j Configuration with Servlet

2002-12-12 Thread Mark Womack
Yes, we can reasonably do that. However, I am unsure about the maturity of any of these approaches without proper testing/analysis. Consequently, we should include these selectors assuming that they are visibly marked as experimental. Their inclusion might spur Container developers to refine