Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 03:22:38PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:41:58PM +0100, James Powell wrote: > > > You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done > > > requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone > > > knows, is impossible.

RE: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Chris Devers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:52 PM > At 03:22 PM 2001.05.16 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > >That's not argument, it's just contradiction! > > Ahh, you must be looking for a different forum then. > > Try Castro's site. ;) "Sorry, this is 'senseless abuse

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Robert Shiels wrote: > > Leon > > > > ... 640K ought to be enough for anybody > > > ...is that dollars or pounds... Turkish lire? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Robert Shiels
[snip] > Leon > -- > Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ > Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ > > ... 640K ought to be enough for anybody > ...is that dollars or pounds... /Robert

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Leon Brocard
Simon Cozens sent the following bits through the ether: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:41:58PM +0100, James Powell wrote: > > No it isn't! > > That's not argument, it's just contradiction! Arguments are down the hall. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterat

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Chris Devers
At 03:22 PM 2001.05.16 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: >That's not argument, it's just contradiction! Ahh, you must be looking for a different forum then. Try Castro's site. ;) -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:31:18PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > Simon Cozens wrote: > > That's not argument, it's just contradiction! > I'm sorry; I'm not allowed to argue with you unless you've paid. Ah, you going into consulting as well, eh? -- "The elder gods went to Suggoth and all

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Simon Cozens wrote: > That's not argument, it's just contradiction! I'm sorry; I'm not allowed to argue with you unless you've paid. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Struan Donald
* at 16/05 15:22 +0100 Simon Cozens said: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:41:58PM +0100, James Powell wrote: > > > You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done > > > requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone > > > knows, is impossible. > > > > No it isn't

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:41:58PM +0100, James Powell wrote: > > You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done > > requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone > > knows, is impossible. > > No it isn't! That's not argument, it's just contradiction! --

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread AEF
On Wed, 16 May 2001, James Powell wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:27:19PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > > You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done requires > > two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone knows, is impossible. > > No it isn't! You're

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread James Powell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:27:19PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: > > Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. > > Therefore having three people must be even better. > > But why stop there - why not four, f

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: > Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. > Therefore having three people must be even better. > But why stop there - why not four, five, six . . . > Better yet - design/develop by committee! You've hit

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Barbie
From: "Matthew Byng-Maddick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Barbie wrote: > > sysadmin, being the shortsighted Solaris guru that he claims he is, has > > deemed outgoing and ingoing ports that aren't for HTTP, FTP be blocked :( > > dare I enquire how you sent this mail, then? > > :)

RE: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Robert Thompson
> From: Robin Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Do you think it's possible to take XP too far? > *Too* extreme? > Sure it is. Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. Therefore having three people must be even better. But why stop there - why not four, five

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Barbie wrote: > sysadmin, being the shortsighted Solaris guru that he claims he is, has > deemed outgoing and ingoing ports that aren't for HTTP, FTP be blocked :( dare I enquire how you sent this mail, then? :) MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +44

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Barbie
From: "Robin Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks, babelfish. try www.freetranslation.com. Unfortunately I can't try it from here as our sysadmin, being the shortsighted Solaris guru that he claims he is, has deemed outgoing and ingoing ports that aren't for HTTP, FTP be blocked :( Barbie.

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:37:25PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > "Felix: How extreme! But good..." > > Extreme indeed... but it *does* satisfy the test cases they've written so > far, and it contains no unnecessary flexibility ;) Do you think it's possible to take XP too far? *Too* extreme? .r

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:37:25PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > > Well it isn't English, but it's *almost* comprehensible... > Sounds a bit like dadadodo, only it makes more sense :) Which does? :) -- "Irrigation of the land with seawater desalinated by fusion power is ancient. It's called 'ra

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:26:07PM +0100, Robin Houston typed: > One XP day passes fast, since you programmed all day long long > exerted with your colleagues. That means it not that you look your > partner with the work over the shoulder. In the opposite. To be in the > pair to program

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Robin Houston wrote: > Well it isn't English, but it's *almost* comprehensible... Sounds a bit like dadadodo, only it makes more sense :) I like the section "Keep the design as simple as possible": "The design strategy implies starting with a simple design and continually improving it. In fact,

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 12:41:18PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > (or trust Babelfish), One XP day passes fast, since you programmed all day long long exerted with your colleagues. That means it not that you look your partner with the work over the shoulder. In the opposite. To be in the pair