Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Neil Ford
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:34:21PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether: > > > Will you be requiring a projector for this? > > Yes please! Will you be coming down or can we send someone to borrow > your projector for the day? ;-) > > ps looks like Sim

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Dave Cross
At 23:30 21/05/2001, David H. Adler wrote: >On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then > > they're in for a big shock. > >...and you can just imagine how much more true that is for editing >technical boo

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:34:21PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether: > > > Will you be requiring a projector for this? > > Yes please! Will you be coming down or can we send someone to borrow > your projector for the day? ;-) DAMNIT, will you lot

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Leon Brocard
Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether: > Will you be requiring a projector for this? Yes please! Will you be coming down or can we send someone to borrow your projector for the day? ;-) ps looks like Simon Cozens will be coming down and giving a few talks too Cheers, Leon -- Leo

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then > they're in for a big shock. ...and you can just imagine how much more true that is for editing technical books... :-) dha, used some of his editing money to b

[announce] Tie::Scalar::Decay v1.1.1

2001-05-21 Thread David Cantrell
I have just uploaded v1.1.1 of Tie::Scalar::Decay which fixes a minor bug in v1.1. It was actually a bug in the test suite :-) which was assuming that the machine running the tests was a RTOS (or at least capable of responding in near real-time). Therefore, the final test, which gave sub-second

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
> Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > in. YAPC talks also welcome. I haven't thought of mine yet! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Piers Cawley
Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seeing as TPC slides for talks are supposed to be in at the end of the > month, I've got a quick technical meeting together. The idea is that > we'd practice our talks (make sure the timing / level is right etc.) > and get constructive criticism from peo

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Neil Ford
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 07:12:51PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: [stuff about TPC/YAPC talk practice, all snipped] Will you be requiring a projector for this? Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:50:07PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: > ...but lacks the ability to filter POP messages by headers before > downloading. Why the hell can't they get their act together on the same > bloody bit of software? And they accuse *us* of forking. Not only that the Outlook and Outlo

penderel going down for a little while

2001-05-21 Thread jo walsh
if that's okay...? i'm going to replace the old disk with the shiny new 40Gb one. we wound up reinstalling from scratch on the new disk. the outage should hopefully be quite short. i plan to do this in about quarter of an hour's time. please wibble at me soon if this will cause you problems, or

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:49:48PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:19:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > 1. For some unknown reason it doesn't let you use mail filters on IMAP > > messages, thereby rendering it completely unsuited to my needs > > The Mac version

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:33:04AM +0100, James Powell wrote: > So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then? A friend of mine and I were thinking of setting up a amIwroxornot.com site with all the Wrox authors (and their huge mugshots) on a voting site. I reckon this is Simo

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:19:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > 1. For some unknown reason it doesn't let you use mail filters on IMAP > messages, thereby rendering it completely unsuited to my needs The Mac version does :) But yeah, that's a pain. > 2. And this is the really evil one. If

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > > Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands! Your hands *think*??? dha, sees a sci-fi movie in here somewhere... -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only prove

TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-21 Thread Leon Brocard
Seeing as TPC slides for talks are supposed to be in at the end of the month, I've got a quick technical meeting together. The idea is that we'd practice our talks (make sure the timing / level is right etc.) and get constructive criticism from people before handing them in. YAPC talks also welcom

Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 05:09:50PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > > >appears on Angel, a show named after someone in the resorataion of whose > >^^^ > > Ah, an excellent typo consisting of one additional character, one > omitted

Re: Some Northern Irish Fun and Games ...

2001-05-21 Thread Marty Pauley
On Fri May 18 07:27:10 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > This is the sort of thing that happens in the country i grew up in > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/northern_ireland/newsid_1336000/1336347.stm But Greg, it's not what you think. It's part of a secret trans-atlantic conspiricy to

Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Mon, May 21, 2001 at 05:09:50PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson typed: >Ah, an excellent typo consisting of one additional character, one omitted character, >and a transposed pair. I shall put it in my collection. I should say by the look of >it, this one was speed induced. > >Goes off to

Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-21 Thread Jonathan Peterson
> >appears on Angel, a show named after someone in the resorataion of whose >^^^ Ah, an excellent typo consisting of one additional character, one omitted character, and a transposed pair. I shall put it in my collection. I should say

Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 10:52:46AM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 09:19:08PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > > > > [Cordelia] > > > > And how, exactly, is this off topic? > > It's not about Willow. But it's about Cordelia, who graduated from Willow's High School, as she appea

Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Piers Cawley
Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 01:26:43PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > > > On 20 May 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: > > > > > Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... > > > > The interest

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: > 1. Isn't Netscape > 2. Isn't Eudora > 3. Actually Works > 4. Is free or cheap Mulberry? .. amongst others http://www.ncsu.edu/imap/readers.html http://www.imap.org/products/database.msql thats a choice of

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Simon Wistow
Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Netscape - works, can filter mail, poor interface, dreadfully slow Hmm, I like Netscape's Interface - does everything I want it to, no unessecarily wasted screen territory, excellent configuartion system. The only thing that narks me off is the fact that, unlike the

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Patrick Carmichael
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: > 1. Isn't Netscape > 2. Isn't Eudora > 3. Actually Works > 4. Is free or cheap > > Sigh... Another vote for PC-Pine. When our University NFS + 'We support Outlook Express, support for Pine is "frozen"' n

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Outlook express is evil. It actually appears to work correctly for IMAP, and is reasonably fast, but... 1. For some unknown reason it doesn't let you use mail filters on IMAP messages, thereby rendering it completely unsuited to my needs 2. And this is the really evil one. If you use plain text

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: > 1. Isn't Netscape > 2. Isn't Eudora > 3. Actually Works > 4. Is free or cheap > PC Pine. /J\

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:30:27PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: > On 21/05/2001 at 14:15 +0100, Mike Wyer wrote: > >On Mon, 21 May 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > > >>I use Outlook Express, I like it a lot. It works for me. > > > >Much badness. We are withdrawing Outlook and associates from all our > >W

Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Neil Ford
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 01:26:43PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > On 20 May 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: > > > Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... > > > The interesting bits are as follows; > > The really interesting b

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Paul Mison
On 21/05/2001 at 14:15 +0100, Mike Wyer wrote: >On Mon, 21 May 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: >>I use Outlook Express, I like it a lot. It works for me. > >Much badness. We are withdrawing Outlook and associates from all our >Windows machines as soon as we have weaned the secretaries off it. It is >a

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:15:28PM +0100, Mike Wyer wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > >From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: 21 May 2001 13:28 > >Subject: Long shot > > > > > >> Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: > >> 1. Isn't Net

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Simon Wistow
Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: > 1. Isn't Netscape > 2. Isn't Eudora > 3. Actually Works > 4. Is free or cheap Pc-Pine? http://www.washington.edu/pine/pc-pine/

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Mike Wyer
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: >From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: 21 May 2001 13:28 >Subject: Long shot > > >> Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: >> 1. Isn't Netscape >> 2. Isn't Eudora >> 3. Actually Works >> 4. Is free or cheap >> >Def

Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Anyone know a windows IMAP client that: 1. Isn't Netscape 2. Isn't Eudora 3. Actually Works 4. Is free or cheap Sigh... -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On 20 May 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: > Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... > > The interesting bits are as follows; > The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living > room crowing because Sara Cox ha

Re: Shoot out

2001-05-21 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:20:08PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > I still remember an article about C++ templating being a turing complete > > language in it's own right or something weird. This isn't it, but is > > entertaining anyway: htt

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Redvers Davies
> I object to paying 3.99 gbp (for a single), or 12.99gbp (for an album > track) to just get one song. However, if I hear another track from those > artists, and like it, I will probably get the full album. Then exercise your right not to buy it - then don't steal it. You don't have a divine rig

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Barbie
From: "Cross David - dcross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Barbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:58 AM > > > From: "robert shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > "According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about > > > a women are their eyes. And women say

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Jones
> >> See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come > >> across too well in glossy magazine. > > > >Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about making personality pr0n? > > Mills and Boon. Well, no, I just had this conversation offlist. I'd say that personality pr0n is an oxymoron. YMMV. -- ma

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 11:06 21/05/01 +0100, you wrote: >Dave Cross: > >> See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come >> across too well in glossy magazine. > >Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about making personality pr0n? Mills and Boon. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 21 May 2001, James Powell wrote: > So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then? .. err .. well theres ... ugh . and .. arr ... and we could always get .. shudder nope .. don't reckon that ones a winner. I know some Womens Institute in Yorkshire made it bigtime wi

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Jones
> I seem to recall some comic giving a rant to the effect of "Used to be > just the magazines on the top shelf, everyone knew where they were, > everyone knew what they were for. Then these FHM, Loaded, etc though - > huh? What are they, for blokes who "aren't sure" if they want to > masturbate?"

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Jones
Dave Cross: > > > And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a > > > woman (or man) was simply by looking at a photo. > > > >Its in the eyes, Dave, its in the eyes. > > See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come > across too well in glossy magazine. Hmmm. I wonder how you

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Barbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:58 AM > From: "robert shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > "According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about > > a women are their eyes. And women say the first thing they notice about > > men are: they're a bunch

Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-21 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 09:19:08PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > > [Cordelia] > > And how, exactly, is this off topic? It's not about Willow. Martin

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Barbie
From: "robert shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about > a women are their eyes. And women say the first thing they notice about > men are: they're a bunch of liars." That's not quite true. Women initial assume that all men are autom

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Simon Wistow
Robin Szemeti wrote: > I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the > crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will > settle down eventually. If you see it lying around the reading 'Getting away with it - the story of Loaded' by Tim Southwe

Re: Marcel Grunauer left on all night

2001-05-21 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Monday, May 21, 2001, at 10:39 AM, Simon Wistow wrote: > .. get some sleep boy, you're making the rest of us look bad :) Someone forgot to terminate my program. Hello. Hello? As I was on all weekend as well, expect some more attribute stuff rsn. Marcel -- my int ($x, $y, $z, $n); $x**$n

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:05:20PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > At 13:27 20/05/2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > > >You can't expect to steal music and then bitch about how someone is > >stealing copies of your book on line. > > True. But just so as we know where we all stand. I have only ever us

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread James Powell
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:26:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > At 10:52 20/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > >On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > > I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who > > > finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've n

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread robert shiels
- Original Message - From: "Dave Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women > At 20:50 20/05/2001, Mike Jarvis wrote: > >Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Mark Fowler
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote: > The interesting question for me is : if I already own a paper copy of the > book, which costs 30p to produce and the remaining £39.70 is for 'a > licence on the copyright' .. why do I have to pay full price for a CD > version as well? ... seems to me th