On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Jonathan Peterson wrote: However, after playing Baldurs Gate 2 all weekend, I'm obliged to say that really if you have a priceless artifact that you don't want found, the trick is to give to a peasant, because no adventurer is going to go round killing every peasant in the land to find the one with the treasure. See That is unless you're Herod. Then Herod, when he saw that he had been tricked by the wise men, was in a furious rage, and he sent and killed all the male children in Bethlehem and in all that region who were two years old or under, according to the time which he had ascertained from the wise men. I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. That's the only way to be sure. I play Herod in a school play once. Go figure. L. Mmm, caffeine...
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Alex Page wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:11:50PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: I must have imagined London.pm. Thank God! It was all a horrible, horrible dream!!! Yeah, well at least you all didn't dream about that guy with the cheese... L. Speako.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: However, after playing Baldurs Gate 2 all weekend, I'm obliged to say that really if you have a priceless artifact that you don't want found, the trick is to give to a peasant, because no adventurer is going to go round killing every peasant in the land to find the one with the treasure. See That is unless you're Herod. I play Herod in a school play once. Go figure. Aargh...played. Maybe I should go and imbibe some of that caffeine stuff. L. Mmm, caffeine...
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Tony Kennick wrote: Some of us can't afford YAPC. maybe we could have Yet Another Beer :: London at the same time then. That is the time of the Great British Beer Festival Just realised that. YAB :: London @ Olympia? L. Busy doin' nothing
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Leo Lapworth (on topic, for a change) wrote: XML - do it because you need it, not because of the Buzz. Indeed ;-) XML is cool for handeling complex (or varied) data and sharing this info with others (but if CSV will do, then use that!). I'll soon be implementing an annotation/transformation tool to produce large, *complicated* XML files containing information about microarray experiments. Would be grateful if anyone could suggest any useful tools/modules. L. www.gen.cam.ac.uk/~flychip
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe? Some of us can't afford YAPC. And some of us don't have partners :-( L. Life is pain, Highness! Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: this is the final test No wonder you're number 1 in the posting league. L. I've got a touch of the singles. Shingles? No, singles.
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Some of us can't afford YAPC. Well at least its not due to the entry fee and if its a matter of accomodation cost, ask on the list for somewhere to crash. Ah, well. Have made prior arrangemnets now (beer festival). Thats why you should come to YAPC::Europe and meet the monger of your dreams ;-) L. Geek fetish? Moi?
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, David Cantrell wrote: Some of us can't afford YAPC. And some of us don't have partners :-( maybe we could have Yet Another Beer :: London at the same time then. Sounds eminently doable ;-) L. I have no sig
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Dave Thorn wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:59:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dave Thorn wrote: that settles it, yes. everything's for sale, even pride. London Pride? obviously. they don't just give it away... Shame. L. Beer good.
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Beer good. Beer Foamy. Only when you add bubble bath... L. A young, female, non-bearded, non-jumpered members of CAMRA? *shock*
http://husk.org/perl/pics/ Warning: dislike of flash may lead to fuzzyness and light trails. Very artistic. I think your camera was drunk (thank $deity - I don't get on with them sober). Nice to meet you all. I'll be ba-ack. L. I love the smell of fruit flies in the morning.
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 07:44:40PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Which reminds me of something I read in the PuTTY FAQ: Question: Would you like me to register you a snappier domain name? The PuTTY web page is hard to find. Answer: No, it isn't. You type putty into Google and it's the very first thing that comes back. How true. Typical of Simon Tatham. :-) Anyway, chiark isn't that hard to remember, and greenend is just due to living on Green End Road on Cambridge (except that chiark doesn't...) *grin* L.
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Remember the discussion some months ago about what a horrible book this was? Well, I've been exchanging emails with the author since slagging her off big-time on Amazon. Somehow I've managed to make her thing that my input is useful and I've just received a copy of the second edition of the book. snip I consider this a massive improvement. Huzzah! Next stop, world domination. *muahahaha* L. We want our nebula back and we want it now.
On 11 Jun 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: http://www.iterative-software.com/~pdcawley/acme.png is vaguely perlish though. Scary (no offense) L. I would say it's a 'fruit knife' but it's not big and it's not cleaver.
Oki, assuming I don't get stranded in rush hour traffic (I'm only ickle), can find my way to the the PO (I used to do orienteering) and can recognise you lot, I shall see you tomorrow. Tho' if anyone going has a mobile I'd appreciate the number just in case. L. 07939 476024
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: just looking at some old pictures of london.pm meetings and YAPC::Europe and i came across the classic, London.pm drinking in a hair dressing salon, Why oh why? L. Because I'm worth it.
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: Someone (Paul?) mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it might be nice if we could all go somewhere after the pub to watch the results come in and... Sounds like an evil flan. Especially as I'm holding up my end of the bargain (right, MBM?) and coming to my first ever london-pm meet. Anyone offering crash space for a small purple person would be most appreciated. L. Zaphod, this is a very large drink. Hi...
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote: Cross David - dcross writes: This one, however, had an advert on the from about the Open Source Convention. Not the San Diego Open Source Convention, but one in London on October 22 - 25. That's currently all I know, but I'll see what else I can find out. I tried like hell to make it work (and ate some shit in front of the ApacheCon people to try and make it work with them, too) but in the end there were just too many things working against it. Sorry! When will there be one? I don't know. I'd hope next year if the economy improves, but I can't promise it. As became obvious this year, wanting to do a UK conference is completely different from being able to. snippity snip I'd go to it. L. I'm a bit blase about all this free beer now.
Greetings all. The beerfest is now over, thank god. Was getting a bit blase about all that free beer. Anyway, I'm now and expert in fence building, floor laying, cotton condoming (!), and estimated I pulled over a thousand last week. Pints that is. So, what did I miss? L.
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Tony Kennick wrote: recruitment mode Sorry to just randomly attack you like this after reading your mail to London.pm's list. But a) are you a Camra member and b) are you going to work the great British beer festival in London this summer and/or you interested in working/going to beer festivals in general? /recruitment mode * Yes, joined last Monday * Probably, trying to decide between that and Yapc * Why not? I'll do anything for cheap beer ;-) L.
The short story: free beer - bye for now The long story: So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised documentation due to the fact my inbox has exploded spectacularly and exceeded my meagre disk quota. Given that I'm far too busy drinking ale to go and faff around wth the university computing service, I shall temporarily unsubscribe. TTFN L. P.S. Cambridge Beer Festival, 21-26 May, Jesus Green
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:20:08PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: I still remember an article about C++ templating being a turing complete language in it's own right or something weird. This isn't it, but is entertaining anyway: http://www.annexia.org/freeware/cpptemplates/ And if you don't want to do things in C++: http://www.apache.org/~fanf/list.h :) The guy is a nutcase. Oh well, he's only won one IOCCC. :) I might just be sharing a house with that nutcase in a few months ;-) L.
On 20 May 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living room crowing because Sara Cox had read his name out on the radio. Just exactly *why* had Sara Cox read Neil's name out? L.
On 14 May 2001, Steve Mynott wrote: I don't like English chocolate which doesn't in fact contain very much chocolate at all if you study the percentage cocoa solids. Better than American chcolate. L. Flower yourself in dissonance and eat yourself in cream.
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Martin Ling wrote: Appears I'm out of a job too from the end of the month, so count me in. The mighty army of unemployed Perlers takes over the world... Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the bioinformatics revolution? Hack around and cure cancer at the same time ;-) L. Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution.
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Andy Williams wrote: On Mon, 14 May 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the bioinformatics revolution? Hack around and cure cancer at the same time ;-) Been there, done that at the Sanger Centre hacking around with genes though... Why'd ya leave? OK, so the Sanger doesn't pay as much as industry, but it's a noble cause. L.
On 14 May 2001, Steve Mynott wrote: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 14 May 2001, Steve Mynott wrote: I don't like English chocolate which doesn't in fact contain very much chocolate at all if you study the percentage cocoa solids. Better than American chcolate. I have bought US Hersey (sp?) bars in the UK and thought they were better than the average bar of Cadbury's Dairy Milk. Ick, NIME. And I didn't realise the Forrest Gump quote is true...how silly. L. Life is like a box of chocolates...a cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift no one ever asks for.
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Martin Ling wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:14:21PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: What do you mean `naked'? As in one of those freaky hairless ones? Or are you in the habit of dressing your cats up in little outfits? Do lots of people dress their cats up? Is there a GAP for cats? Complete with irritatingly happy cats dancing to 70s and 80s pop music? I'm not sure. Hang on, I'll ask a cat... http://pkl.net/~martin/catpaw.jpg I'll take that as a no. ROTFL. L.
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / Why, btw? L. This cheese intentionally left rank.
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:33:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / Boring! You should be able to manage some clip on furry animals. A cow-orker did selotape a sympathetic Wildlife bar to the screen, but she's not very computer savvy and I had to put it in the DNA fridge to un-thaw. I have a furry orangutan climbing an inflatable Big Ben. L. Cambridge Beer Festival, 21-26 May, Jessus Green www.camra.org.uk/cambridge
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Depends on the day. Today, two things: a goose called Lucy ! L. Blessed are the cheesegraters.
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Chris Heathcote wrote: Has anyone got a proper lundun map with tube lines indicated... that would be just chops. There are machines in the tube that sell them. I have a large collection of these due to always forgetting to take mine with me whenever I go to Nodnol and having to buy another one. L. This cheese intentionally left rank.
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: (I don't eat chocolate.) *shock* L. Do spiders make gravy...?
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Barbie wrote: Currently just Tux, who thankfully doesn't get used as Nerf gun target practice since leaving tw2. Heh. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~siona/captions/january.html L. Cambridge Beer Festival, yadda yadda yadda.
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:15:56PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: (I don't eat chocolate.) *shock* So you buy them anyway and give the chocolate away... L. Can I be your new best friend?
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: And while we are on the old films chestnut, my current recommendation is 'O Brother, where art thou?', excellent film. Oh yes. Truly fantastic. Must buy the soundtrack album. ah yes, and the soggy bottom boys' `hit' is particularly good Ye-es, but gets slightly annnoying when youre lab colleague plays it repeatedly while dancing round with DNA. do they do lots of foot stamping? He's an Aussie, so he might do. L.
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And while we are on the old films chestnut, my current recommendation is 'O Brother, where art thou?', excellent film. Oh yes. Truly fantastic. Must buy the soundtrack album. ah yes, and the soggy bottom boys' `hit' is particularly good Ye-es, but gets slightly annnoying when youre lab colleague plays it repeatedly while dancing round with DNA. L. Never insult an anatomist. We can regale you with stories of genitalia dissection.
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote: ... I wonder how hard it would be to get Faith or Charisma Carpenter or one of those other minor characters to do a meet'n'greet at TPC. I suspect they're hard to dislodge from LA, but it might still be worth a try. I'm tracking down their agents now. That's a really silly idea. I like it! Despite the fact I won't actually be there. Whilst we're (kinda) on the topic, can I have a reminder of who's going to yapc. I'm still umm-ing and ahh-ing over whther I can afford it (us phud students suffer for our science). L. Never argue with a biologist.
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:50:50PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Long dark hair, ankhs and beer - the Egyptions were the original goths. Hmmph. Goths wouldn't know good beer if it grabbed them by the goolies and swung them round over its head whilst shouting I'm good beer, I'm good beer, and if you disagree I'll cut your head off and shit down your neck Well, I'm affiliated with both gothdom and CAMRA, so just call me the exception that proves the rule (or summat equally pretentious). 'Course, it would help if I could spell Egyptian. L. Cambridge Beer Festival, 21-26 May, Jesus Green http://www.cam.net.uk/camra/2001/28cbf.html
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Alex Page wrote: Yeah, I was redoing my CV the other day (it's at http://www.cpio.org/~grimoire/cv.html if you want to employ me...) OK, so I was just being nosy - as opposed to being in the position of offering a job - and noticed Alex is: a) younger than me (makes a change!), and b) went to UMIST. Hmmm, would it be bad form to reminisce about all things Manc on a London.pm list?! L. BSc(Hons) Anatomical Sciences University of Manchester Graduated 1999
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, will wrote: Alex page wrote: Hazy tales of drunken nights in Jilly's drinking too much snakebite and falling over while trying to dance to the Sisters of Mercy probably won't interest most of london.pm Cheap bottles of calsberg and rage against the machine... There isn't anywhre quite like it in london - sigh Ack - another one. On topic - how come all the decent jobs are dahn sarf? Off topic - have you tried Gossips, Slimelight or the 'Leccy Ballroom? L. Long dark hair, ankhs and beer - the Egyptions were the original goths.
'lo again. Had to unsubscribe over Easter due to an ever-inflating inbox and an institutionally enforced disk quota. Just to keep this on topic, has anyone noticed much traffic on the perl-cert list or is my subscription just funted? L. "I wear the cheese. The cheese does not wear me."
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. Why would that bother us? Remember, we're all Willow fans here. Heh. A friend of mine just asked me if I was upset about this, and my response was similar... Likewise. However, to both I'd have to prefer Riley. Can I just add 'Spike!'. L. "I wear the cheese. The cheese does not wear me."
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: *shock* You used the 'o' word. its ok, we can do the organisation as long as we have the greg school of organisation in play, it will basically mean agreeing with Dave Can. when he can take his `people carrier' to sussex - the announcing the weekend in advance and refusing to change it. *grin* That sounds like an evil flan. L. "Death cannot stop true love. It can only delay it for a while."
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:22:38AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: ...geeks, goths, jugglers, Natscis. And that's just me. ex-natscis too. :) Are you? I'm actually doing productive things in the lab, so this shall be my last pointless posting of the day. Paul, whose uni got nicked in fscking cambridge. "Ooh, it's got a wheel! Not the usual two, but fuck it, let's steal it anyway!" I apologise on behalf of my city :-( Yes, it's all mine! Muhahahah. L. "Sex is kinda like pizza. When it's bad, it's still pretty good."
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. That *is* a mad idea. I like it. Muahahaha. - Lucy McWilliam Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flychip Tel: +44 (0)1223 765927 Department of Genetics Fax: +44 (0)1223 333992 University of Cambridge Mobile: 07939 476024 CB2 3EH WWW: www.bio.cam.ac.uk/~lejm3 "With a face like this I won't break any hearts. If I think like that I won't make any friends."
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Somebody wrote Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this *shock* You used the 'o' word. L. "The vultures are descending. And they've got spoons!"
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary collection of sharp edges. I have a pointy stick especially for the toasting of marshmallows. I kid you not. L. "Bring your haddock to the paddock."
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. /me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list. Oh, I do... L. "For puppies! And Christmas!"
Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David H. Adler wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? And drunks! Don't forget drunks! Yeah, yeah drunks, skateboarders, musicians . ...geeks, goths, jugglers, Natscis. And that's just me. L. "The sun always shines on TV."
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Do either [Anchor or PO] do real ale? i think both `theoretically' have guest ales, but it may vary for your definition of real Gah. I see I shall have to drag(?!) you all along to upcoming beer festivals. L. "I'm not as thunk as I drink I am."
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Lucy McWilliam sent the following bits through the ether: Gah. I see I shall have to drag(?!) you all along to upcoming beer festivals. Nooo. You just gave me a mental image of London Perl Mongers in drag! Arrghghghgghgh *eyebrows* L. "Cambridge Mountain Rescue."
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: ok it looks like PO .. or the anchor! Do either do real ale? L. "Take your haddock to the paddock"
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Here's an extract from an email I've just got from Elizabeth Castro, the author of "Perl CGI for the WWW - Visual Quickstrt Guide". She's talking about the second edition which should be out in a couple of months. "I am using many of your suggestions, including use strict, -w, and CGI.pm. I think they're going to make the book much stronger." World domination is ours. Muahahaha! L. "Imagine a world where we ran out of punctuation."
At Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:37:51 + (GMT), Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: World domination is ours. Muahahaha! Not if we can't come up with a good name for not matt's script archive it won't be. Might as well mention London.pm, tho' "London.pm's Script Arcives" is a bit out of a mouthful. Things along the lines of EasyScripts, EasyCGI, SimpleScripts, etc. sound a leetle cheesy (or is it just the rhyme that worries me?) and have been used numerous times before. /me tries to think of summat original (slowly, given it is Bastarday) Lucy
MBM wrote: Not if we can't come up with a good name for not matt's script archive it won't be. The other possibility, I guess, given that it's london.pm is to make it relate to buffy in some way :) Or beer. Or both ;-) Lucy.
Tony wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Love and fruit flies, I only really want /one/ of those things... Ditto. And I have the wrong one... Love and grapefruit, L.
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Robin Houston wrote: Antennapedia is my favourite mutation, but I expect Lucy knows some better ones :-) Yeah, like where they knock out the alcohol dehydrogenase gene and get all the flies absolutely bladdered :-)) L. "Master of all our zones."
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, AEF wrote: ...a real interactive fruit fly would be fun. Webcam, food and other stuff controlled by people browsing the site... bringing insect torture into the 21st century. Ooooh, don't tempt me... *grin* L. "We've got armadillos down our trousers. It's really quite frightening."
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: Finding out where perl is parody Stop, stop, this script archive is not ready yet! Where are the Hello world examples? Where are the detailed instructions? And why are you actually working on these scripts yet! /parody *giggle* L. delete smutty comment
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: "In a recent survey, 9 out of 10 MS Windows users were found to have difficulties maximising and moving their windows. Macintosh users were not admitted to the tests because they had difficulties with the door handle at the lab where the tests were being conducted." ROTFL
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Jon Eyre wrote: Anyone else drink too much and wake up on a train in the middle of Hampshire thursday night? Or was it just me..? No, that was just you. delurk 'lo, BTW. I'm Lucy and I'm not in Nodnol, but Cambridge doesn't have a .pm (yet!). I use Perl to do vague genome mapping, computer biology, PhD type things. / - Lucy McWilliam Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flychip Tel: +44 (0)1223 765927 Department of Genetics Fax: +44 (0)1223 333992 University of Cambridge Mobile: 07939 476024 CB2 3EH WWW: www.bio.cam.ac.uk/~lejm3 "With a face like this I won't break any hearts. If I think like that I won't make any friends."