Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:35:25AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:05:18AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:11:13PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account > > > name during install? > > > > > > I did and am wondering if this is why my OS X installation is totally > > > hosed & useless: I can't open folders in my (own!) Home (Insufficient > > > > That would be it. Root on Mac OS X is a special user that by default isn't > > enabled and doesn't have a home directory, etc. > > > > You probably need to re-install and choose a normal user name. This user will > > What, how about bin? Or mail? Or daemon? :-) > > OS X really shouldn't've let me use a system name. Doh! > Remember, OS X is an operating system especially designed for idi^H^H^Hmummies and daddies.[1] They are just going to put in their name. And why do you think /bin is hidden in the finder? It would be the first thing to go in the trash if it wasn't. Neil. [1] obviously plagariesed reference. Anyone? ;-) -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:05:18AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:11:13PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account > > name during install? > > > > I did and am wondering if this is why my OS X installation is totally > > hosed & useless: I can't open folders in my (own!) Home (Insufficient > > That would be it. Root on Mac OS X is a special user that by default isn't > enabled and doesn't have a home directory, etc. > > You probably need to re-install and choose a normal user name. This user will What, how about bin? Or mail? Or daemon? :-) OS X really shouldn't've let me use a system name. Doh! > be set up as an administrator and have pretty good access rights. For easy > access you can do 'sudo tcsh' or if you want to enable root via > Applications|Utilities|NetInfo - it's a menu option. Thanks! Anyone played with Project Builder? Paul
Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:11:13PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account > name during install? > > I did and am wondering if this is why my OS X installation is totally > hosed & useless: I can't open folders in my (own!) Home (Insufficient That would be it. Root on Mac OS X is a special user that by default isn't enabled and doesn't have a home directory, etc. You probably need to re-install and choose a normal user name. This user will be set up as an administrator and have pretty good access rights. For easy access you can do 'sudo tcsh' or if you want to enable root via Applications|Utilities|NetInfo - it's a menu option. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)
I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account
name during install?
I did and am wondering if this is why my OS X installation is totally
hosed & useless: I can't open folders in my (own!) Home (Insufficient
Privileges), all Applications in Finder appears as folders, all
non-Finder applications in the Dock are presented as folders and
not executable ("Can't find associated application to run this"-type
message). I can't get a terminal either (Apple-K then 127.0.0.1 didn't
work). And I find myself Capitalizing words all the time :-)
Paul
Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:41:17AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mysql has been ported to OSX. You can find it at > > http://www-u.life.uiuc.edu/~mwvaugh/MacOSX/Packages/ > > I was playing with it for a while and it seems fairly stable. > The only real problem I had was installing DBD::mysql which > couldn't find libraries etc. Finally I found a guide at > > http://invictus.usask.ca/macosx/ > > and everything went hunkdory. > > Well that's my first post out the way, I'm going to go and hide again now. > > Steve You should be ashamed sir, a first post that was vaguely on topic and helpful into the bargain. What are things coming too :-) Thanks for the info btw - most useful. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)
Mysql has been ported to OSX. You can find it at http://www-u.life.uiuc.edu/~mwvaugh/MacOSX/Packages/ I was playing with it for a while and it seems fairly stable. The only real problem I had was installing DBD::mysql which couldn't find libraries etc. Finally I found a guide at http://invictus.usask.ca/macosx/ and everything went hunkdory. Well that's my first post out the way, I'm going to go and hide again now. Steve
Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)
[Warning - rant likely!] On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:15:00AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: > > > I have an original bondi-blue iMac, running MACOS9 at the moment, with 32Mb > RAM. I was in an Apple shop at the weekend and found that a 128Mb upgrade > and OSX will only set me back about 200gbp. I was assured that all my OS9 > applications will still work (my wife uses Clarisworks for WP, and the kids > play their games), does anyone know if this is the case. > In theory yes, all software that runs under OS9.1 should run under Classic (Mac OS X's emulation layer), however practice may prove to be something else. Hardware support for third party devices is patch under Classic, as an example Adobe advise that Photoshop users will NOT be able to use scanners etc. to acquire images under Classic. Reboot into OS9.1 if you need to do that. Unfortunately they is currently no definative list, so it's really a case of trial and error to see what works. As for the install, the current wisdom is to completely wipe the disk, do a clean install of OS9.1 from the cd provided, install all your Classic applications and make sure they work and check for third-party extensions and control panels and if they're not needed, disable them as they are likely to cause Classic not to load. Once you are happy that everything is as you want it, install Mac OS X and then see what works. Worst case if you just reboot back into OS9.1 and work out how to remove OS X. > And also, will I be able to install perl,apache,mysql and other *nix > goodness on it too - I've never gotten to grips with macperl really. > Perl comes pre-installed (5.6.0 for those interested), apache I think come installed but not enabled (I haven't had a chance to check and don't really need it on my powerbook), if it doesn't there are plenty of guides on the net on how to install it (start at http://www.stepwise.com). I'm not sure if anyone has ported mysql yet, I know I've seen a port of postgressql though. Again check out Stepwise and maybe also Darwinfo (http://www.darwinfo.com). The one thing I must say, is be prepared for things to be very different to any *nix-like operating system you've used before, unless you've had prior experience of NextStep/OpenStep. Mac OS X does stuff in a very different way to say Linux of FreeBSD and will take some getting used to. The lack of documentation on some of the key components (NetInfo for example) is a big hinderence to making progress. I think Mac OS X _will_ be a good OS, but right now I feel it still has some growing to do. I'm perservering with making it my day to day OS on my laptop but I will be recommending to all of my customers that unless they have a pressing need to migrate that they should stay put and wait until at least the summer when Apple are proposing to ship machines with it pre-installed to see what improvements have been made. In your case Robert, I'd recommend getting the memorey upgrade whilst prices are good but that you stay with OS9 (preferably 9.1) until later in the year. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED]
