Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-25 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 05:48:50PM +, Redvers Davies typed: >If you run enlightment as a windowmanager you can use the URL >epplet. You simply highlight the URL (or a lump of text which contains >a URL) and click "www", "ftp" or "get". WWW opens up a web browser, >ftp opens up an x

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-25 Thread Redvers Davies
> to delete the URL in a browser window and then paste. Being > able to click it and then hit ^V is *much* nicer (in Windows) > than this manual delete time wastage. If you run enlightment as a windowmanager you can use the URL epplet. You simply highlight the URL (or a lump of text which contai

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-25 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Benjamin Holzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:15:26PM -0500, Benjamin Holzman wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy >^^^ > > $ s

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Benjamin Holzman
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:15:26PM -0500, Benjamin Holzman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy ^^^ > $ sudo apt-get install wmnetselect > $ wmnetselec

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Benjamin Holzman
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy > a URL in a mail message by highlighting it, what's the fastest > way of getting that loaded in a browser? Right now I have > to delete the URL in a browser window and t

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Mark Fowler
> My solution is truly disgusting, but works. I've patched bash so that I > can paste (middle click) a http URL onto the command line and it will > start in netscape. As I always have at least one terminal open on my > desktop that does the job perfectly. Whenever I'm doing this I tend to 1)

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy > a URL in a mail message by highlighting it, what's the fastest > way of getting that loaded in a browser? Just place the pointer over the current web page and click th

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy > a URL in a mail message by highlighting it, what's the fastest > way of getting that loaded in a browser? Right now I have > to delete the URL in a browser window and

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Struan Donald
* at 24/01 12:07 -0600 Paul Makepeace said: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba > > is the prefered development environment. > > Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than linux's (right n

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:09:41PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > Here here. I have yet to find a Unix editor I like. SO I use Ultraedit > under Wine c.f http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/stuff/uedit.jpg Allaire's HomeSite is excellent as a perl editor too; regexes, syntax colouring, open file ta

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba > > is the prefered development environment. > Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba > is the prefered development environment. Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than linux's (right now) and linux doesn't have a decent browser which is a

RE: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:23:57 -, "Bates, Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest > way to produce it.<< > > so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? Oh, I'd probably do something based using th

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread DJ Adams
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba > is the prefered development environment. I'm with you on that one. That's what I'm doing right now, and with PuTTY being such a great tiny-foot

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread DJ Adams
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:23:57PM -, Bates, Duncan wrote: > >>I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest > way to produce it.<< > > so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? docbook? markup / WYSINWYG rules dj

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. > > > > Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh > > well. > > > > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dean S Wilson
Original Message- From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Must remember to try IE under WINE. > >Don't bother. It doesn't work. I've seen IE5 running under wine on Debian. The machine did have a 98 partition though so he might have been using the libraries from there, is that chea

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dean S Wilson
-Original Message- From: Robert Shiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running >samba >> is the prefered development environment. > >Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for doing X >stuff. If you've got a nic

RE: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Bates, Duncan
>>I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it.<< so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in? -- Duncan Bates Developer Proxicom UK Tel: 020 7321 3812 Mobile: 07884 336 532 http://www.proxicom.com/

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:18:17PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > Must remember to try IE under WINE. Don't bother. It doesn't work. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is nice. Any idea what body-part it is?

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:18:17 +, Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just find Windows too bloody frustrating whenever I want to do > anything other than edit "documents". I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest way to produce it. This was a mi

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:15:34PM +, Michael Stevens typed: >What box I want depends on the local environment - windows boxes can >be easier to run on windows networks, and linux boxes on more unixy or >open networks. I just find Windows too bloody frustrating whenever I want to do

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:05:27PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. > > > Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for doing X > stuff. The one windows application I can't

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Robert Shiels
From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. > > Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh > well. > > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba > is the prefered development

RE: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Jonathan Peterson
> > *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is. Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh well. Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba is the prefered development environment.

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:31:02PM +, Richard Clamp wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save > > with unix line ending conventions... > Having recently done this, the thing you want is >

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread James Powell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:39:13PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed: > > >I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins > > >you s

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Richard Clamp
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save > with unix line ending conventions... Having recently done this, the thing you want is set-buffer-file-coding-system, the default keybinding being 'C-x RET

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Michael Stevens wrote: > I hate to say it, but I'm slowly becoming converted to windows cut & paste. > > I like being able to highlight a block of text and hit ctrl-v to replace > that with the contents of the clipboard. Why do you hate to say it? It's better than cut and paste of X. Linux i

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Mark Fowler wrote: > UltraEdit32 is a really good windows editor[1] if you like the way of > Windows. It does all the right things (in the way that perl does all the > right things) with line endings. And a lot more (but in a good way, not > in a bloat way) Here here. I have yet to find a Unix

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Robert Shiels
From: "Michael Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 24 January 2001 12:43 Subject: Re: odd -w effect > > OTOH, that doesn't help us much with the desirable goal of getting unix > used more in the workplace. I dunno. > Well, it does ac

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Mark Fowler
As I seemed to be destined to be ignored, I'll do what I should have done and shoult a little louder: UltraEdit32 is a really good windows editor[1] if you like the way of Windows. It does all the right things (in the way that perl does all the right things) with line endings. And a lot more (b

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:46:13PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed: > > >We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and > >IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't >

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed: >We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and >IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't >try to promote it as what they want, because invariably they start going >"

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:35:17PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > Let's be kind to the poor Windows users, encouraging them with the lure of > free powerful software; once they get a taste for it they'll be begging you > to help them get Linux installed as a dual boot on their home machines, then

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed: > >I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins > >you see outside offices. > D&D is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Robert Shiels
> > >Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot > >that some people use windows. > > If only I could. > > Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows... Let's just take it as a fact that Linux is better than Windows; we all know this, we all run

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed: >I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins >you see outside offices. D&D is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm editing text. Anyone played much with PowerArchiver? Freeware WinZip clo

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Struan Donald
* at 24/01 13:18 + Greg McCarroll said: > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > > > > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +000

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:18:16PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > And Xemacs. Seems to work fine with both Unix and DOS line endings, but > > I haven't yet worked out how to change them. > its more the people, a lot of them want to drag and drop and > have file menus I propose we drag these peo

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:18:16 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > > > > On or about We

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > > > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: > > > >Got it -- somethi

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Philip Newton
Michael Stevens wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > > Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows... > > Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save > with unix line ending conventions... :set fileformat=un

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: > > >Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr...

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: > >Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot > >that some people use windows. > If only I could. > Try using CVS when so

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: >Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot >that some people use windows. If only I could. Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows... R

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread jduncan
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:57:13PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > Mark Fowler wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > > > Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based > > editor which will insert some nasty line te

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Philip Newton
Mark Fowler wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based > editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at the end of the > lines and screw up the file. That's what I normal

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Robert Shiels
- Original Message - From: "Mark Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 24 January 2001 11:19 Subject: Re: odd -w effect > > Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? > I've also had this problem with CGI scripts running under ap

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Mark Fowler
> Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions? Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at the end of the lines and screw up the file. That's what I normally find the problem is when 'nix can't find the file. Later