Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Cross
At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm and wish to raise a bug against Morse.pm. It doesn't actually convert stuff to Morse Code, just to something that

Re: Overheard on IRC

2001-02-27 Thread Paul Mison
On 27/02/2001 at 10:46 +, Simon Wistow wrote: ALL YOUR DCONWAY ARE BELONG TO US My more idiomatic expression of Aaron's 'All your Damien Conway are belong to us'. (Using the CPAN ID was natural; hmm, maybe in the next weekly summary...) yet another t-shirt idea methinks as is Jonathon

Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 04:38:49AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. And don't get me started on my nightmare journey. I thought that all night buses went thru Trafalgar Sq - the N19 doesn't :( Ugh. At least I got on the right end of the train and

Re: Overheard on IRC

2001-02-27 Thread Neil Ford
ALL YOUR DCONWAY ARE BELONG TO US yet another t-shirt idea methinks Simon [realising in the process that no-one ever suggested a t-shirt that said 'yet another t-shirt'] Do it Do it now!! :-) Neil. (2 x as big as you can get please) -- Neil C. Ford Yet Another Computer Solutions Company

Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Robinson
At 05:29 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm and wish to raise a bug against Morse.pm. It doesn't actually convert stuff to Morse

Re: Overheard on IRC

2001-02-27 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:46:18AM +, Simon Wistow typed: yet another t-shirt idea methinks any(@londonpm) R

Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Cross
At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:58:55 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:29 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm

Re: Overheard on IRC

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Remind me, what channel do we gather in? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire

Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Robinson
At 06:10 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:58:55 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:29 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: Oh, and I've had a

Re: Overheard on IRC

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remind me, what channel do we gather in? never mind, i got it -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired

Re: Overheard on IRC

2001-02-27 Thread Neil Ford
On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:46:18AM +, Simon Wistow typed: yet another t-shirt idea methinks any(@londonpm) R One wonders if we should just use some of Simon's designs to pay for the camel? Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Yet Another Computer Solutions Company [EMAIL PROTECTED]

lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Ian Brayshaw
Hi, Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue context? Ian (New face on london-pm: usually wears an over-the-top suit.)

geek football

2001-02-27 Thread Hamlet D'Arcy
As an American in the audience of Quantum::Superpositions last night I have one question. What in the world is a 'geek football pool'? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: geek football

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Cross
At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:54:15 -, "Hamlet D'Arcy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an American in the audience of Quantum::Superpositions last night I have one question. What in the world is a 'geek football pool'? This article may help: http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/10/footpool.html

Re: geek football

2001-02-27 Thread Andy Williams
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Hamlet D'Arcy wrote: As an American in the audience of Quantum::Superpositions last night I have one question. What in the world is a 'geek football pool'? Geek: That would be us I guess!! Football: You probably know it as soccer. Pool: A list of games being played on a

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
"Ian Brayshaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue context? No. If you need to know that sort of thing, you

geek cricket

2001-02-27 Thread Amias Channer
reading the posts on geek football reminded me of an old but good idea that , to my knowledge , has not been put into practice but probably should . Would anyone be interested in setting up a cricket league amongst 'internet' companies in london . Each company would have a team (or combine to

Re: geek cricket

2001-02-27 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:29:19PM +, Amias Channer typed: Each company would have a team (or combine to make teams) and play 40 over matches on sunday afternoons in some sort of league . Does this appeal to anyone ? gambling is optional . You mean... actual physical exertion?

Re: Do what I mean!

2001-02-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:22:17PM +, Matthew Robinson wrote: use constant time; Obviously, the constant module would have to be overloaded to allow this along with a few tweaks to the core. s/core/universe/ but hey, what's mere reality between friends? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Ian Brayshaw
Ian Brayshaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue context? No. If you need to know that sort of thing, you

Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Redvers Davies
Morse Code, just to something that _looks_ like Morse Code. I'm glad you said that cos when I was in the audience I couldn't match up what I saw with what the program was (although I only got as far as character 3 so assumed there was some kind of preamble). Mind you, I only do 15-20wpm

Re: geek cricket

2001-02-27 Thread Struan Donald
* at 27/02 12:33 + Roger Burton West said: On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:29:19PM +, Amias Channer typed: Each company would have a team (or combine to make teams) and play 40 over matches on sunday afternoons in some sort of league . Does this appeal to anyone ? gambling is

Re: Do what I mean!

2001-02-27 Thread Steve Purkis
Matthew Robinson wrote: With respect to Quantum::Superpositions and in the spirit of 'Do what I mean' I think we should be able to write any script and place the following pragma in the header. use constant time; Obviously, the constant module would have to be overloaded to allow this

RE: geek cricket

2001-02-27 Thread Simon Batistoni
On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:29:19PM +, Amias Channer typed: Each company would have a team (or combine to make teams) and play 40 over matches on sunday afternoons in some sort of league . Does this appeal to anyone ? gambling is optional . You mean... actual physical

Re: Do what I mean!

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Robinson
At 12:42 27/02/01 +, you wrote: Matthew Robinson wrote: With respect to Quantum::Superpositions and in the spirit of 'Do what I mean' I think we should be able to write any script and place the following pragma in the header. use constant time; Obviously, the constant module would

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Robin Houston
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 11:38:40PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: I'm new to the discussion of Perl6, so are there any discussions around providing operators such as wantlvalue and wantvoid to perform similar queries to wantarray? Yes. Damian has proposed http://dev.perl.org/rfc/21.html

Re: geek football

2001-02-27 Thread Mike Jarvis
Tuesday, February 27, 2001, 11:54:15 AM, Hamlet D'Arcy wrote: HDA As an American in the audience of Quantum::Superpositions last night I have HDA one question. HDA What in the world is a 'geek football pool'? Just be glad they didn't start playing "Slap the Yank". -- mike

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Ian Brayshaw
Robin Houston wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 11:38:40PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: I'm new to the discussion of Perl6, so are there any discussions around providing operators such as wantlvalue and wantvoid to perform similar queries to wantarray? Yes. Damian has proposed

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Robin Houston
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:50:26PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue context? Yeah there is, but you're not going

Re: geek football

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tuesday, February 27, 2001, 11:54:15 AM, Hamlet D'Arcy wrote: HDA As an American in the audience of Quantum::Superpositions last night I have HDA one question. HDA What in the world is a 'geek football pool'? Just be glad they didn't start

Re: Do what I mean!

2001-02-27 Thread Simon Wistow
Steve Purkis wrote: A *few* tweaks to the core? Come on now, you'd have to make the core grok multiple dimensions! (... and that would be about as easy as building an infinite improbrability drive...) We can reason that there is a Perl Core that spans multiple dimensions so there must be a

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:50:26PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 01:46:49PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: That's almost as good as ()^0.5. I was thinking about that on the way to work. AIUI, square roots apply to numbers, so how can you have a square root of something that isn't a number, like an operator? You may as well say that you

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Ian Brayshaw
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:50:26PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue context? Yeah there is, but you're not going

RE: geek football

2001-02-27 Thread Andrew Bowman
From: Mike Jarvis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Just be glad they didn't start playing "Slap the Yank". You mean like the Polizei that you mentioned during our happy sojourn in The Bunker at ebookers? Those were the days :-) (The Bunker, not the Polizei!). Andrew.

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Rob Partington
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AIUI, square roots apply to numbers, so how can you have a square root of something that isn't a number, like an operator? You may as well say that you can take the square root of anything - like the square root of equals,

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 01:46:49PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: That's almost as good as ()^0.5. I was thinking about that on the way to work. AIUI, square roots apply to numbers, so how can you have a square root of something that isn't a

SRN (was: lvalue subroutines)

2001-02-27 Thread Robin Houston
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 02:39:35PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: (I note that, in the slide, ()^0.5 is refered to as U_SRN. Presumably because the idea gives the mathematicians headaches too, so they hide it slightly behind another symbol) Apparently SRN stands for "Square Root of Not", so

Re: SRN (was: lvalue subroutines)

2001-02-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 02:50:22PM +, Robin Houston wrote: http://www.qtc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/lecture1/lecture1d.html is interesting. My brain just started leaking out of my ears. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable

Re: SRN (was: lvalue subroutines)

2001-02-27 Thread Robin Houston
I've also found http://www.sigmaxi.org/amsci/issues/comsci95/compsci95-07.html "The Square Root of NOT" which seems to be a good non-experts introduction to *real* QC. .robin.

Re: Do what I mean!

2001-02-27 Thread Simon Wistow
Matthew Robinson wrote: I have now implemented the changes to the constant pragma module so that all scripts run in constant time (in fact they run instantaneously). You're ill. Get help.

Re: Do what I mean!

2001-02-27 Thread jduncan
I remember him mentioning that there was an implementation of shor's algorithm in Quantum::Entanglement. On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 04:47:42PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 03:37:35PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: Matthew Robinson wrote: I have now implemented the

Quantum Weirdness

2001-02-27 Thread Robin Houston
I just bought a Mars bar, and it's *drum roll* sixty-five grams! .robin.

Re: Quantum Weirdness

2001-02-27 Thread Rob Partington
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just bought a Mars bar, and it's *drum roll* sixty-five grams! They already did that on IRC! Keep up, that man! Tue1129#London.pm/Ranguard Arrg, Damion lied - British Mars bars weigh 65 g! not 60.. the Quarks must

Re: Quantum Weirdness

2001-02-27 Thread Robin Houston
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 05:48:27PM +, Rob Partington wrote: They already did that on IRC! Keep up, that man! I'm trying to cut down on IRC. It's becoming too distracting. But you miss so much by not being there. robin irc+- .robin. -- "Do nine men interpret?" "Nine men," I nod.

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Ian Brayshaw wrote: Ian Brayshaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue context?