Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-05 Thread Julien Meuric
Hi Les, Indeed, this version resolves my initial comments. Thank you. Julien Oct. 05, 2018 - ginsb...@cisco.com: Bruno/Julien/Benjamin –   V18 of the draft has

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-05 Thread bruno.decraene
; Benjamin Kaduk Cc: Routing Directorate; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; Alvaro Retana; lsr@ietf.org; Jeff Tantsura; MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN Subject: RE: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15 Bruno/Julien/Benjamin – V18 of the draft

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Directorate ; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; Alvaro Retana ; lsr@ietf.org; Jeff Tantsura ; MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN Subject: RE: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15 Les, Thanks for the proposed text. It’s crystal clear. It works

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-04 Thread bruno.decraene
-...@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; Alvaro Retana; lsr@ietf.org; Jeff Tantsura; MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN Subject: RE: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15 (Hard to follow Acee’s post – especially for entertainment value) Bruno – I think that we do want some less awkward text

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-03 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Decraene Cc: Routing Directorate ; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; Alvaro Retana ; lsr@ietf.org; Jeff Tantsura ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN Subject: Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15 Hi Bruno, On Oct 3

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Alvaro Retana mailto:aretana.i...@gmail.com>>, "lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org>" mailto:lsr@ietf.org>>, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com>>, MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN mailto:julien.meu...@orange.com>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDi

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-03 Thread bruno.decraene
: Routing Directorate , "draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org" , "rtg-...@ietf.org" , Alvaro Retana , "lsr@ietf.org" , "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" , MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN Subject: Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-ro

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
t; , "rtg-...@ietf.org" , Alvaro Retana , "lsr@ietf.org" , "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" , MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN Subject: Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15 Jeff, From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-03 Thread bruno.decraene
Jeff, From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 8:28 PM To: DECRAENE Bruno IMT/OLN; Alvaro Retana; MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-03 Thread bruno.decraene
Les, From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 8:20 PM To: DECRAENE Bruno IMT/OLN; Alvaro Retana; MEURIC Julien IMT/OLN Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [RTG-DIR]

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-02 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Gents, I’m 100% with Les here, going into platform/asic specifics within this document would inevitably create ambiguity. Cheers, Jeff On Oct 2, 2018, 11:20 AM -0700, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) , wrote: > Bruno – > > Trimming the thread… > > [Les2:] Label imposition is meant to cover both the

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-02 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Bruno – Trimming the thread… [Les2:] Label imposition is meant to cover both the SWAP operation and the PUSH operation. In the example you provided above where a label stack of “12” is replaced by a label stack of “14,15” the number of labels “imposed” is 2. [Bruno2] In that case, I definitely

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-10-02 Thread bruno.decraene
-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15 Alvaro – Thanx for helping drive this to closure. Please see inline. From: Alvaro Retana mailto:aretana.i...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:54 AM To: J

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-28 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
-...@ietf.org<mailto:rtg-...@ietf.org>; lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org>; rtg-...@ietf.org<mailto:rtg-...@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segmen

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-28 Thread Julien Meuric
Thank you Alvaro. Though not less, I think we're about to find an agreement on Les's wording. Julien Sep. 27, 2018 - aretana.i...@gmail.com: > I’ll approve the publication either way once you and Julien agree. ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-28 Thread Julien Meuric
Hi Les, We're converging. Please see below. Julien Sep. 27, 2018 - ginsb...@cisco.com: Julien -   Snipping out the resolved bits.   > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-28 Thread bruno.decraene
; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15 Alvaro – Thanx for helping drive this to closure. Please see inline. From: Alvaro Retana Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:54 AM To: Julien Meuric ; Les Ginsberg

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-27 Thread Alvaro Retana
On September 27, 2018 at 2:44:34 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ( ginsb...@cisco.com) wrote: Les: Sometimes less is more. ;-) My personal opinion is that, given the precedent from rfc4221, the additional considerations are implied. I’ll approve the publication either way once you and Julien

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-27 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Alvaro – Thanx for helping drive this to closure. Please see inline. From: Alvaro Retana Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:54 AM To: Julien Meuric ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: lsr@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-...@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-27 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Julien - Snipping out the resolved bits. > -Original Message- > From: Julien Meuric > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:27 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; rtg-...@ietf.org > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; rtg-...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > m...@ietf.org > Subject:

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-27 Thread Alvaro Retana
On September 27, 2018 at 6:26:57 AM, Julien Meuric (julien.meu...@orange.com) wrote: Hi! It looks like the outstanding item is this one about the terminology used in §5. tl;dr: I think that the terminology can be slightly improved to be in line with other documents. See suggestion at the

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-27 Thread Julien Meuric
Hi Les, Please see inline. Thank you, Julien Sep. 26, 2018 - ginsb...@cisco.com: > Julien - > > Thanx for the additional comments. > V17 has been published to address these - subject to my responses below. > See Les2 > >> -Original Message- >> From: rtg-dir On Behalf Of Julien

Re: [Lsr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-15

2018-09-26 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Gents, Thanks for the great review! Both drafts are on the Telechat tomorrow, would be great to come to the agreement, so ospf draft could be updated before tomorrow’s call. Regards, Jeff > On Sep 26, 2018, at 13:21, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > > Julien - > > Thanx for the additional