Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-17 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
>>> can’t define specific value for “unreachability” why can we define the >>> specific value for “LS-Infinity”? >>> >> >> KT> For LS-Infinity - please read RFC2328. >> >> Thanks, >> Ketan >> >> >>> >>&g

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-15 Thread Aijun Wang
6, 2023 11:52 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsb...@cisco.com> Cc: John Drake 40yahoo@dmarc.ietf.org>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) <ppse...@cisco.com>; Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn>; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable pref

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-07 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >>  >> >> Ketan – >> >> >> >> I am very happy to be wrong in this case.  >> >> We are in full agreement. >> >> >> >> Les >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-07 Thread Aijun Wang
laulikar Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 11:52 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsb...@cisco.com> Cc: John Drake 40yahoo@dmarc.ietf.org>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) <ppse...@cisco.com>; Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn>; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for dra

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-07 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
*From:* Lsr *On Behalf Of * Ketan Talaulikar > *Sent:* Monday, November 6, 2023 11:52 PM > *To:* Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > *Cc:* John Drake ; Peter Psenak > (ppsenak) ; Aijun Wang ; > lsr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable > p

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-07 Thread Aijun Wang
(ginsberg) Cc: John Drake ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Aijun Wang ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement   Hi Les,   I disagree with your reading of RFC9084 (OSPF Prefix Originator).   Sec 1 This document proposes extensions

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-07 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
ke mailto:40yahoo@dmarc.ietf.org>> Cc: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>>; Aijun Wang mailto:wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn>>; lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement Hi Ai

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Behalf Of * Ketan Talaulikar > *Sent:* Monday, November 6, 2023 3:01 PM > *To:* John Drake > *Cc:* Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Aijun Wang < > wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn>; lsr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable > prefixes announ

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement Hi Aijun, As your co-author on the OSPF Prefix Originator RFC, I have stated many times (e.g. [1]) that overloading semantics of Prefix Originator is not a good or clean protocol encoding. Semantically, it is wrong

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
Hi Aijun, As your co-author on the OSPF Prefix Originator RFC, I have stated many times (e.g. [1]) that overloading semantics of Prefix Originator is not a good or clean protocol encoding. Semantically, it is wrong and a very bad protocol design in my opinion. Going by this logic, tomorrow,

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread John Drake
Aijun, You castigated Peter for his lack of rigor in his reply to your email, however, I think that was completely unfounded.  Further, your reply to Peter seems to be argument by emphatic assertion, rather than "technical analysis/comparison". Thanks, John  On Monday, November 6, 2023 at

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Peter: Let’s focus on the technical analysis/comparison for the mentioned issues, and don’t repeat the subjective comments that without any solid analysis. Detail replies inline below. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Nov 6, 2023, at 14:53, Peter Psenak wrote: > > Aijun, > > please see

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Peter Psenak
Aijun, please see inline: On 06/11/2023 13:23, Aijun Wang wrote: Hi, all: Here are some technical questions for the hurry adopted draft about unreachable prefixes announcement: 1) There exists already “prefix originator” sub-TLV to indicate the associated prefix is unreachable, what’s the

[Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, all: Here are some technical questions for the hurry adopted draft about unreachable prefixes announcement: 1) There exists already “prefix originator” sub-TLV to indicate the associated prefix is unreachable, what’s the advantage of using other undefined, to-be-standardized,