[LUAU] Calling all mice

2004-08-19 Thread R. Scott Belford
You know you have one. You're not using it, and the kids at Enchanted Lakes Elementary need it more than you do. Your gift is deductible. Our only missing piece for tomorrow's install is mice. Surely some Kailua based POS dealer with a lot of modems and who advocates OSS has some. We need 2

[LUAU] Open Source Day

2004-08-19 Thread R. Scott Belford
We have a new member in our group, Eli, who came here a few years ago from Columbia (the country) His passions for Linux have been fueled, and it's no surprise when you look at his brother's website http://fundehumano.org/ dig the Sombrero Being a man of action, Eli has suggested that we have

[LUAU] HOSEF gets Enchanted

2004-08-17 Thread R. Scott Belford
This Friday we will be installing yet another thin-client lab in Hawaii. This one will be at Enchanted Lakes Elementary in Kailua. We have nearly lined up the needed volunteers, but more are always welcome. If you would like to see how we transform an empty room into a functional computer la

Re: [LUAU] LUAU is your LUG

2004-08-16 Thread R. Scott Belford
Angela Kahealani wrote: On Monday 2004-08-16 22:13, MonMotha wrote: Angela Kahealani wrote: ... LUAU is *your* LUG. So, is LUAU multi-island, or just O'ahu? I'm considered a member of LUAU (or so I've been told) and I'm in Indiana... I guess my question is really, more on the order of

[LUAU] LUAU is your LUG

2004-08-16 Thread R. Scott Belford
Since LUG does not appear anywhere in the LUAU or HOSEF name, it is hard to realize that we have a LUG any closer than our friends on the Big Island, Bilug. I have heard people wonder that before, and have even heard talk of starting a LUG on Oahu. As best we understand, the first Hawaii, or at

[LUAU] HOSEF Talk-Shop, Wednesday August 18th

2004-08-16 Thread R. Scott Belford
penguins, please contact me off-list or reply to the list if you think that you'll be joining us. --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/Director The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 phone/fax [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[LUAU] HOSEF Workshop and Organizational meeting

2004-08-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
HOSEF is reviving our workshop with a gathering at The McKinley Community School for Adults today at 1:30. If one feels like assisting, we have to swap out some dontated computers. If one feels like playing, we will be installing Xandros Linux followed by some of those cool new Novell applica

[LUAU] OSS Classes

2004-08-12 Thread R. Scott Belford
computers, mainly thin clients, when we set up a 30 station lab at Enchanted Lakes Elementary. Please consider becoming a member. --scott R. Scott Belford Founder/Director The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 phone/fax [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [LUAU] PHP Class

2004-08-11 Thread R. Scott Belford
Nathan A. Keirn wrote: Has anyone heard back on the PHP class. A friend of mine, and I both want to sign up. I emailed Kevin English, but I haven't heard back yet. Nathan Kevin is probably just busy. He, Michael, and HOSEF have been working out the details and the times. It is looking like

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF Talks Shop

2004-08-11 Thread R. Scott Belford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What time Sorry. I was trying to drive eyeballs to our somewhat improved site. :-) Roundtable Pizza (Enchanted Lake) 1020J Keolu Drive 6-8:30 p.m. --scott

[LUAU] Mondo/Mindi expertise needed for HOSEF project

2004-08-10 Thread R. Scott Belford
HOSEF is in need of someone's help to create disk images of the workstations in our McKinley lab. With the help of Michael Bishop, we have been cleared to offer more classes in the room where we have donated 25 workstations. They are used during the week to run windows lite and a foreign lang

[LUAU] HOSEF Talks Shop

2004-08-10 Thread R. Scott Belford
Each Wednesday for the foreseeable future, HOSEF is organizing a Shop Talk session for Linux and OSS. Our first go at it will be tomorrow evening at Roundtable Pizza in Kailua. Future Wednesday sessions are scheduled on our calendar, but you are welcome to suggest alternative venues and times

[LUAU] Great Migration Site

2004-08-10 Thread R. Scott Belford
Looking over the Skolelinux site, I came across this resource. Very good on the eyes, and chock full of info. http://www.skolelinux.no/linux-signpost/showUserMenu.php?locale=en --scott

Re: [LUAU] PHP class in town

2004-08-03 Thread R. Scott Belford
Kevin W. English wrote: I'd could teach one if anyone has a venue. We have a venue, Kevin. Would you like to start teaching a HOSEF sponsored PHP class at McKinley? --scott

Re: [LUAU] user experiences

2004-07-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: I went over to Makiki community library yesterday. This should offer a great testimony to the benefits of adopting a Linux system. Unlike other state libraries, Makiki does not receive any state fund. Without HOSEF/Linux, its two Windows2000 computers would ha

Re: [LUAU] "Dropping" Modules (Was: Fedora Core 3)

2004-07-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: The problem is, where to set up such a user experience collection point? Waikiki Library is probably the best candidate. Other "non conventional" spots include Starbucks, Honolulu Cafe in Ala Moana Mall, Barns&Noble/Borders, or any other place(s) anyone can t

Re: [LUAU] Does this shock you?

2004-07-08 Thread R. Scott Belford
My apologies. I was very excited yesterday to see what seemed like so many infections. Further research has led me to revise my "list." I searched for each service on the security response page from Norton Antivirus, and did not read the details thoroughly enough. In our rush to correct me, I

[LUAU] Does this shock you?

2004-07-07 Thread R. Scott Belford
I have been meaning to email LUAU and our announce list for some time to make sure that we all knew the recent news about HOSEF. We have a permanent home at UH thanks to many unthanked people, and luau and monmotha have a permanent home with HOSEF. We have set up a lab this year at Kuhio Elem

Re: [LUAU] SATA hot swap - off topic

2004-07-07 Thread R. Scott Belford
Jeff Mings wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. What I'd really like to be able to do is just switch out backup hard drives once a month. The goal is simple data redundancy, not hardware fail-over. I'm planning on colocating a server, and I was hoping I could just umount /dev/whichever , unloc

Re: [LUAU] Good Linux movie - Revolution OS

2004-07-06 Thread R. Scott Belford
Matthew John Darnell wrote: http://www.revolution-os.com/ This is a good movie that chronicles the free software movement, it is an interview style documentary. I thought the tension between Linus Torvalds & Richard Stallman was interesting. Linus also mentions he pronounces his name three dif

Re: [LUAU] Apt-sources list

2004-06-25 Thread R. Scott Belford
Maddog wrote: somewhere to go that keeps a list of Deb mirrors? http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ :-) --scott

Re: [LUAU] Apt-sources list

2004-06-25 Thread R. Scott Belford
Maddog wrote: Can someone be so kind as to provide me with the local mirror lines for my apt sources.list file? Thank you, Don ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau deb http://www.backports.org/d

[LUAU] Recycling or Trashing

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Belford
Over the last few years I have heard a lot of misinformation about proper and legal disposal of monitors. I want to clarify this, to the best of my understanding, so that we all make the right decision with older equipment. Most of my information came from the morning I spent volunteering som

Re: [LUAU] any laptops left from the Hosef giveaway?

2004-05-29 Thread R. Scott Belford
Robert Green wrote: Drop me an e-mail if you have something that will fit the bill. Of course, free would be preferred, but cheap would also be considered for the right machine. We have a Dell 2100, a Gateway 2100, and a Toshiba 465CDX. The gateway has no power supply. Each has a pcmcia ada

Re: [LUAU] Fedora or Debian

2004-05-27 Thread R. Scott Belford
Gary Dunn wrote: How does Debian deal with security issues? For example, if Apache issues a security alert and an upgrade to correct the vulnerability, how quickly does Debian make the update available? From the Debian Site: "Debian takes security very seriously. Most security problems brough

Re: [LUAU] Sat. HOSEF meeting

2004-05-26 Thread R. Scott Belford
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: Is Saturday's workshop still on? I am having problems with my USB wireless card (on an FC2 notebook), would like to bring it over and perhaps someone can show me his/her magic fingers? wayne We are on. No guarantees that a FC2 issue can be handled, but someone

Re: [LUAU] Fedora or Debian

2004-05-23 Thread R. Scott Belford
Richard wrote: Hi, I'd like to hear some technical advice on the comparison of Fedora and Debian. If I want to mainly run network applications, what package should I use? GUI is not critical to me. Both are community developed projects. Each embodies the same philosophy of Open Source Devel

[LUAU] HOSEF giveaway - Rain or Shine

2004-05-15 Thread R. Scott Belford
The show will go on today, regardless of the weather. Studing the radar loop this morning leaves me to believe that showers will come and go intermittently. Between the truck and McKinley, you will be able to look over the stuff without getting wet. We really would like to swap out the stuff

Re: [LUAU] Just received this from Mandrake

2004-05-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
DataStar wrote: Greetings! That bastard Gates and Microsoft is at it again! I haven't seen anything posted about this yet so here goes: Thanks for the info. Let's hope that the measure is removed before Monday. The potential Achilles heal of OSS is that obs

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF gives it away Location Included

2004-05-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
R. Scott Belford wrote: A reminder to you that on Saturday from 12-4 we will be giving away all of our surplus stuff. We have cables, hard drives, nics, video cards, sun equipment, speakers, etc., and it is all being given away on a first come first served basis. Please come by and help us

[LUAU] HOSEF gives it away

2004-05-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
A reminder to you that on Saturday from 12-4 we will be giving away all of our surplus stuff. We have cables, hard drives, nics, video cards, sun equipment, speakers, etc., and it is all being given away on a first come first served basis. Please come by and help us to help others. -scott

[LUAU] HOSEF Gives Stuff to You

2004-05-06 Thread R. Scott Belford
HOSEF has collected too much stuff. A fair amount of it does not serve our current mission. We will be giving it away on Saturday the 15th at McKinley from 12-4. See http://www.hosef.org for details and directions. We have a lot of Sun monitors and sun monitor cables Sparc 2's, Sparc 5's, an

[LUAU] Strategic Guidance for IP Conference and Inspiration for a HOSEF Conference

2004-04-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
Nothing to add to this. Bonjour Scott, and bonjour everyone on your lists (local forwarding of this message welcome), R. Scott Belford wrote: We are on it. I cannot thank you enough for calling this to our attention. I am embarrassed that this was going on under our noses and we had no

[LUAU] While we Were Sleeping

2004-04-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
While we were sleeping, the following has come onto the horizon http://www.iipi.org/activities/softwareconference.htm "Developing countries and aid agencies have thus invested heavily in support of building domestic software industries, particularly by investing in education and technology ado

Re: [LUAU] VC and Linux

2004-04-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: I am sure most have heard the news that Google has set a date to go IPO. What differentiates Google from essentially all the internet bubbles of the late '90s is that it already has almost $500M in cash. I know Google is "probably" profitable. But $500M in cas

Re: [LUAU] hosef luau subscription page

2004-04-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
Charles Lockhart wrote: Just an fyi, http://www.hosef.org/pn/index.php?module=Static_Docs&type=user&func=view&f=luau.html which is the "main" luau subscription page (pointed to by the main hosef.org page) was broken and wouldn't let me subscribe a couple of weeks ago (kept giving me the messag

Re: [LUAU] How Does this Work?

2004-04-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
MonMotha wrote: That link doesn't work for me in mozilla (brings up an error dialog), but the use of &BVP= is probably a weirdo escape sequence that rewrites .com into some odd cctld that someone bought up. I've gotten a similar mail, but it was in HTML. Did we possibly lose something in th

[LUAU] How Does this Work?

2004-04-29 Thread R. Scott Belford
I recently received, correct that, SpamAssassin filtered the following email. Researching it led me to these two links, among many http://www.inertramblings.com/archives/000454.html http://www.millersmiles.co.uk/identitytheft/011104-citibank-email-scam.php and I recall hearing of an unpatche

[LUAU] HCR 83 - OSS in Hawaii Government

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Belford
The bill that simply requests a study of OSS in our government and that supports its future use has passed the Finance Committee. Thanks to those of you who helped by testifying. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessioncurrent/commreports/hcr83_hscr1431-04_.htm Note who has opposed it http://ww

[LUAU] Open source software in state government operations

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
"BE IT RESOLVED by the House of Representatives of the Twenty-second Legislature of the State of Hawaii, Regular Session of 2004, the Senate concurring, that the Department of Accounting and General Services (DAGS) is requested to provide a status report on the current use of open source softwa

[LUAU] quick read

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Belford
http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/04/02/1424206.shtml The next time you hear someone say that using Linux is hard, tell them that you know of one four-year-old who has been handling it daily for more than a year. Linux is not hard unless you convince yourself that it is.

[LUAU] HOSEF Organizational Meeting

2004-04-07 Thread R. Scott Belford
This Saturday you are welcome to join HOSEF for its monthly organizational meeting. We gather at 1 p.m. at The McKinley Community School for Adults on Pensacola and will meet for one hour. Signs will point you to Room 206, and if you drive, please park on the Pensacola side of the adult schoo

Re: [LUAU] IBM Linux Workstations

2004-03-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: > http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=-840&productId=8707833&storeId=1&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2588412 > > If you have $ to burn, IBM is selling IntelliStation A Pro > workstation with RHEL3 WS pre-installed for $6,

Re: [luau] "Naked" Linux Poster

2004-03-24 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 10:40 pm, Patrick Smith wrote: > > http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/pdf/megahertz_3-15-04.pdf > > Is this it? It looks like there are 3 Linux ads as part of this promotion. http://www.novell.com/company/advertising/index_na.html --scott

Re: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops

2004-03-11 Thread R. Scott Belford
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: But a more effective way is to give our police more equitable pay, as well as more budget for ice education/rehabilitation. Of course, using our prescious police resources to SWAT a 76-old lady who unknowingly uses a $10 counterfeit bill does not help the situati

[luau] Arguments for OSS

2004-03-11 Thread R. Scott Belford
http://www.cio.com/archive/030104/open.html So who's using open source? Why are they using it? And are the benefits worth the risks? The answers are surprising—and dispel some of the myths surrounding open source.

Re: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops

2004-03-11 Thread R. Scott Belford
Ronald Willis wrote: Does anyone know if these unfortunate travelers had a beacon installed or if they have record of a mac address? This reminded me of a great article I found on /. in 2002. I hunted it down http://macscripter.net/unscripted/unscripted.php?id=12_0_1_0_C They didn't use the

Re: [luau] Saturday workshop?

2004-03-08 Thread R. Scott Belford
Jaymes Schooler wrote: Scott.. What are the space requirements. I may be able to work something out as far as a Saturday location and workspace and possibly some interim storage space Thanks for asking, Jim. The room that we have been using for the workshops is about 400 sqft, and we have

[luau] Future of HOSEF

2004-03-07 Thread R. Scott Belford
Some of you may not know that we have a HOSEF managers list where we try to hammer out HOSEF specific issues as we try to serve our Open Source Community. http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/hosef-managers (domain changing soon) An interesting question posed by our chair, Vince, is i

Re: [luau] Saturday workshop?

2004-03-07 Thread R. Scott Belford
configuration, Apache, Firewalling, etc. -dean takemori thanks for the inquiry, Dean --scott R. Scott Belford PR Director HOSEF

[luau] Open Source Legislation

2004-02-27 Thread R. Scott Belford
ncerely your name --- Please make some time for this, if you can. graciously --scott R. Scott Belford PR Director The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation

Re: Ham stuff (was [luau] Mandrake 9.0)

2004-02-26 Thread R. Scott Belford
Ken Mayer wrote: Dana, I'm a ham, too, AE6CA, but I haven't turned on the rig (my boat, ICOM-735 and a 10m wire backstay) much since I arrived in the islands last May. I have an SCS PTC-III on board as well. Do you know any kind of stuff goes on around Honolulu that I might get plugged into? Al

Re: [luau] Mandrake 9.0

2004-02-13 Thread R. Scott Belford
Dana Smith wrote: I have a Toshiba Protege 7000 and am wondering if I can install Mandrake 9.0 on it without too much grief. I don't know anything about the hardware specs, but I don't see why not. If the machine has your important data on it, back it up. Oh, have fun. Mandrake is so enjo

[luau] sco as a WMD

2004-02-01 Thread R. Scott Belford
A very funny link from Slashdot in case you missed it http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/01/30/wwwscocom_is_a_weapon_of_mass_destruction.html --scott Watch those Linux Commercials during the Super Bowl today.

Re: [luau] Courier Imap Troubles

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Belford
Don, This is a very well-maintained how-to for your setup. You want to be sure that either /etc/skel has been set up to make a Maildir for each user maildirmake /etc/skel or edit exim.conf to be sure that it is set up to transport mail to a maildir. This how-to is pretty darn good. http

Re: [luau] migration

2004-01-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
Lucas wrote: Any hardware recommendation guys? We are currently looking at the following list of dual-cpu rack mounts: Sun Fire V280R $ 14,995 x 60% (Higher Ed discount) = $8,997.00 (2 x 1.2 GHz UltraSPARC III, 2.0 GB RAM, 2 x 73 GB 1 RPM SCSI drives, 10/100 Ethernet, Solaris

[luau] backports.org

2004-01-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
An understandable issues that many people have with debian is that the stable release is, well, it's a little old. Such is the price of stability, but, sometimes this is a deal killer if you want to run stable, but also want, for instance, the most recent version of snort, or spamassassin, or

[luau] More for You

2004-01-13 Thread R. Scott Belford
Folks, ftp://hosef.ics.hawaii.edu Is ready for you to start grabbing stuff from. The tireless work of Vince, Warren, and the liaison efforts of Brian have helped to make this possible for you. Many of you answered the call for hardware assistance for our new mirror server, and you shall be

Re: [luau] Upgrading servers

2004-01-12 Thread R. Scott Belford
Brian Chee wrote: Hi folks: I'm looking at someday soon building two new servers 1.Apache server with other nice doodads, but needs RAID 1 for reliability. 2.NFS/Samba server with lots of fast RAID 5 disks. What RAID controllers are people using now, and is SATA something worth movi

[luau] HOSEF Organizational meeting agenda 1-10-2004

2004-01-10 Thread R. Scott Belford
Call to Order - 12:00 P.M. Year in Review/Preview - Scott 10 minutes Status of Existing Projects - 10 minutes Campbell - Scott, Ted eSchool - Scott Workshop - Scott Liholiho - Warren HOSEF Server - Vince Financial Report - Scott 1 minute Public Relations/W

[luau] HOSEF Events

2004-01-06 Thread R. Scott Belford
This Saturday at noon we will have our organizational meeting. The agenda is as follows: Year in Review and Year in Preview Nomination and Election of a new Steering Committee Status of existing Projects Immediately afterwards we will be meeting to discuss our role in the eschool Conference.

[luau] something for nothing

2004-01-03 Thread R. Scott Belford
Prior to Christmas, I saw that Circuit City had the Western Digital 160gb, 7200rpm, 8mb cache, 3-year warranty drive for 79.99 after rebates. They were out, so I received a raincheck. I have now received it. It is unopened. The packaging states that a 160gb drive is inside. Inside, WD appears

Re: [luau] Limiting Access to Single File

2003-12-31 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 10:01, Blake Vance wrote: > RH9: How do I limit access of a particular account to one specific file? Clarifications needed. Are you talking about limiting the access of a samba user's account to a specific file in a shared samba directory? --scott

Re: [luau] Network questions

2003-12-31 Thread R. Scott Belford
Are you assigning the computers ip addresses that are in the same class as those being offered by your Linksys router? If your are setting the ip addresses manually, are you also setting the gateway to your Linksys router? If you have no route through your Linksys product, then you cannot reach y

Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?

2003-12-24 Thread R. Scott Belford
When back in Georgia earlier this year, I helped a friend set up his earthlink dsl connection. It is important to note that the DSL modem used by earthlink is actually a router. It holds the public ip address and issues a 192.x.x.x address to your computer(s.) They use pppoe and the router canno

[luau] HOSEF Holiday Schedule

2003-12-19 Thread R. Scott Belford
04. Our weekday agenda is likely to evolve to a more consistent class offering and more scheduled social activities. --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 [EMAIL PROTECTED] success without humility

[luau] HOSEF Org Meeting and Workshop

2003-12-12 Thread R. Scott Belford
Consistent with our tendency to make last minute changes, the organizational meeting will be held at Price Busters on December 13. Our friends at McKinley offer such nice resources, and surely most of our meetings will be again be there. The load of Xmas shoppers may make traveling to and from th

Re: [luau] videl.ics.hawaii.edu disk failure - Your Help Needed

2003-12-02 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 07:44 PM, Warren Togami wrote: snip --- Apparently one of the disks in the RAID1 array of videl.ics.hawaii.edu failed during November. I am hoping for donations to help pay for the replacement disk and other upcoming server upgrades that are needed. Is prio

[luau] HOSEF avoids Football.

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Belford
With the Alabama vs. UH game beginning at 2:45 on Saturday, it would be irresponsible to ask any of the kind volunteers or willing learners to fight through the traffic and crowded parking lot to attend the workshop on Saturday. Since we are right across the street from the Stadium, it will be a zo

[luau] HOSEF has articles

2003-11-19 Thread R. Scott Belford
Our HOSEF site is open to submissions from persons like your self. I have just noticed two very interesting but neglected submissions that are now on our site. One addresses the linux from scratch project, and the other is looking for some collaboration on creating an accurate map of wireless net

[luau] HOSEF weekday workshop is now THURSDAY

2003-11-19 Thread R. Scott Belford
ursdays or Saturdays, 6-9 or 11-2 at the Stadium Marketplace Pricebusters. aloha --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 [EMAIL PROTECTED] success without humility is just an indulgence in arrogance

[luau] HOSEF Monthly Organizational Meeting- Change

2003-11-07 Thread R. Scott Belford
oliho, McKinley, and Campbell three reasonably successful HOSEF projects to add to Redemption Academy in Kailua, St, Johns in Kalihi, and MidPac. Little by little my friends, little by little, and we can change much. --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Educ

Re: [luau] Fedora Core 1 Released

2003-11-06 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 10:25, Warren Togami wrote: > There are some exciting developments happening upstream for LTSP v4 > including hotplug USB storage, encryption/authentication, and thin > client system control from the server. I only heard about it last night > but I don't know details. You ma

Re: [luau] Fedora Core 1 Released

2003-11-06 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 09:42, Warren Togami wrote: > > What most people don't realize is that Fedora Core 1 is pretty much the > same thing as RH9 in the people who made it and the processes. > fedora.us and fedora.redhat.com are still not fully merged, and the full > community participation of di

Re: [luau] Re: Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
Warren Togami wrote: Don't worry about Fedora disappearing or Red Hat abandoning the community. Everything in Fedora and even RH enterprise is still 100% Open Source Software. They have not compromised Open Source principles in the name of corporate profit. What would happen if, say in 5 yea

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 09:43, Warren Togami wrote: > Debian is fine, however it is absurd to recommend *BSD for end-user > desktops. This is really missing the point, and calling it "absurd" sure doesn't add to the civility, Warren. Find below the original poster's comment. I picked up on two th

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
When the "best" question (or "which" in this case) evokes responses with cursewords and slights without examples, no one really benefits. Tom_Gordon/RISE/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian is the biggest waste of storage space known to man. 8 CDs! Mostly crappy, useless, abandoned applications.

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 20:24, John Johnson wrote: > Hmm...I just got the email from Red Hat today stating that my free > distribution will reach its end-of-life in the next quarter. Not being > aware of the current RH prices, I went over to the site to look at how > much a low-end subscription would

Re: [luau] For Ohau Locals Only

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 22:37, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: > The last sentence should be: > > My main concern is, at the present time, nothing is going on, but when > something may be going on, we, I am afraid, probably will not have > enough manpower nor the (system-wide deployment) experience.

Re: [luau] Proposed LTSP Server Config

2003-09-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 04:23 AM, R. Scott Belford wrote: Dwight, You need to come to one of our workshops. If you want to see some of the hundreds of computers or monitors that we at HOSEF has saved woops that we at HOSEF *have* saved I curse you, grammar. --scott

Re: [luau] Proposed LTSP Server Config

2003-09-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
free machines are waiting on you. http://www.hosef.org --scott R. Scott Belford Founder/Chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation P.O. Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Dwight wrote: I did some looking with Googl

[luau] I can finally find the any key

2003-09-21 Thread R. Scott Belford
We often joke around in our HOSEF workshops about the "any" key. I am sure you have too. Thanks to Compaq, we can now find it. Very amusing. --scott http://web14.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859 R. Scott Belford IT Development Director ERT Sales of Hawaii dba Pricebust

Re: [luau] Proposed LTSP Server Config

2003-09-21 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 01:33 AM, Nakashima wrote: Yesterday, I met with rep Marumoto about how Linux could save the state megabucks, enhance the local economy, and deal with the landfill problem. She was very interested and asked for another meeting so she could include computer sav

[luau] HOSEF activities

2003-09-06 Thread R. Scott Belford
We have a few things going on in the upcoming workshops at the Stadium Marketplace Pricebusters, and you are invited if you would like to help: - Today and Monday we are setting up and testing 4 stations for shipment to the Big Island - We have been and will continue to set aside, prepare, and te

[luau] HOSEF comes to the Big Island

2003-09-06 Thread R. Scott Belford
ted by the school. --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 [EMAIL PROTECTED] success without humility is just an indulgence in arrogance

[luau] replacement server

2003-09-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
say in how we put it to use, please get involved with what we are doing with HOSEF. --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 [EMAIL PROTECTED] success without humility is just an indulgence in

[luau] HOSEF rests on labor day

2003-09-01 Thread R. Scott Belford
an eye on the calendar at www.hosef.org for upcoming events and activities. -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 [EMAIL PROTECTED] success without humility is just an indulgence in arrogance

Re: [luau] Free to a good home

2003-08-31 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 09:13, Duane wrote: > I have several big items I need to clear out of my garage. I want to > give HOSEF first crack at it, then it's whoever wants it gets it. > > 2 large (very large) Deltec UPS (Model 2026C-1). These two are on > rollers. Wow. I guess that we would lov

[luau] HOSEF workshops

2003-08-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
lub at our session. It is a *very* impressive box. directions are here http://www.hosef.org/pn/index.php?module=Static_Docs&type=user&func=view&f=pricebusters.html --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 967

Re: [luau] Status Report: August 2003

2003-08-26 Thread R. Scott Belford
mmunity. Our work is collaborative, and you are very welcome to make suggestions, comments, or good 'ol fashioned improvements. --scott -- R. Scott Belford Founder/chair/Treasurer The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 808.689.6518 [EMAIL PROTECTED] success without humility is just an indulgence in arrogance

Re: [luau] RH 9 server hacked -- what went wrong?

2003-08-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
I have to wonder if, after installing the server, you made certain that you ran up2date or apt-get (if you installed apt) to update all the packages. What services did you have running? Was the machine firewalled? --scott On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 09:33 AM, Rob Bootsma wrote: Hi all

[luau] HOSEF Organizational Meeting

2003-08-09 Thread R. Scott Belford
The second Saturday has come fast this month, so let me please invite you to our monthly organizational meeting held at the McKinley Community School for Adults. Links to directions and details can be found here http://www.hosef.org/volunteer.html On the second Saturday of each month we meet

[luau] Re: mbox vs Maildir

2003-08-01 Thread R. Scott Belford
I have been away from the PC at issue, but, DOH.  The trailing slash after my Maildir settings in procmailrc was the culprit.  Amazing how much trouble a little syntax can cause.  Thanks, Vince, for your insight.   Warren, dovecot sounds very intriguing.  Thanks for the tip.  I am sure that

[luau] mbox vs Maildir

2003-07-28 Thread R. Scott Belford
Like many of us, I have been enjoying reasonably spam free, sorted, and web-accessible mail via exim/fetchmail/procmail/spamassasin/imap/squirrelmail. It has been a delight. Not content with good enough, I have been toying with the idea of using courier-imap instead of uw-imap. Courier uses the

Re: [luau] Liholiho TODO list - Item #3

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 12:36, Nakashima wrote: > Hi all, > Maybe the Apple's Network Browser would allow us to find our LTSP server > and login. > Testing at home: Click apple icon in top left corner. Click on Network Browser. Click Arrow to left of Appletalk icon-Nothing. Highlight Appletalk

Re: [luau] Liholiho TODO list

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 09:32, TB wrote: > > I didn't realize the LSTP server could speak AFP. > That's cool, so that's what netatalk is about! I > should look into this. It works really well. I have a debian box that shares my mp3's(leagal ones) over afp for my OS9 clients and over smb for my OS

Re: [luau] Liholiho TODO list

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Belford
, 2003, at 12:39 AM, Warren Togami wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 00:04, R. Scott Belford wrote: On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 02:50 PM, Warren Togami wrote: I spent about 3 hours at Liholiho. Here is a short TODO list. 1. Multihomed netatalk routing errors. (???) Are we sure? 2. LTSP serve

Re: [luau] Liholiho TODO list

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Belford
It sounds like a cable was unplugged. We can easily resolve this in person. --scott On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 09:07 PM, Nakashima wrote: Hi again, After Warren left Liholiho, I moved our Mac file server off of the LTSP network. It's probably coincidence, but now, I can't access the I

Re: [luau] Liholiho TODO list

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 02:50 PM, Warren Togami wrote: I spent about 3 hours at Liholiho. Here is a short TODO list. 1. Multihomed netatalk routing errors. (???) Are we sure? 2. LTSP server needs to show up in Chooser. (???) See directions below. For OSX, one can go/connect to s

Re: [luau] Church & HARC - Monday night workshop

2003-07-14 Thread R. Scott Belford
I regret that I replied to the list cc and not the personal message. Hasty oversight. Inappropriate. Sorry. --scott

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