Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is HOSEF

2008-03-29 Thread Jim Thompson
On Mar 28, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-28 14:44:56 Jim Thompson wrote: As a non-member, I have no vote in the matter, Since you're calling for membership, will you be the first to join? Absolutely not. I am completely private, (versus PUBLIC), and avoid to

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Vince Hoang
You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want what is best for HOSEF, but your strong personalities prevent you from finding common ground. You

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Michael Bishop
+1, I agree. - Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want what is best for HOSEF, but your

[LUAU] HOSEF ?= LUG

2008-03-29 Thread Michael Bishop
After attending PyCon 2008 (which was awesome) and chatting up various people there, my view on LUGs and community groups has changed. Please allow me to share my thoughts and questions with you. What ever happen to the local Linux Users Group (LUG)? As I recall MPLUG (Mid Pacific Linux Users

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Gary Sublett
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:05:12 -0700 Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want what is best for

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Michael Bishop
Gary Sublett wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:05:12 -0700 Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF ?= LUG

2008-03-29 Thread ted
BRAVO Michael,, You said it all. After attending PyCon 2008 (which was awesome) and chatting up various people there, my view on LUGs and community groups has changed. Please allow me to share my thoughts and questions with you. What ever happen to the local Linux Users Group (LUG)?

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Gary Sublett
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:11:29 -1000 Michael Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Sublett wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:05:12 -0700 Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF ?= LUG

2008-03-29 Thread Dave Burns
Michael, thank you for the very positive input. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Michael Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for eWaste, I think HOSEF, the foundation, should stop taking in computer trash for money and go back to a standards based approach. Only take in P3+, 19+ CRT, any

[LUAU] HOSEF directors agree to meet - please stay tuned

2008-03-29 Thread Ronald Fox
Hi all, Late last night we finally got agreement among Scott Belford, Jim Thompson, Joe Guillaume and me to meet via phone conference call very soon to identify and attempt to clear up many of the misunderstandings that have arisen among us in the past couple of months. We've agreed to stick to

[LUAU] HOSEF directors agree to meet - please stay tuned for furher news

2008-03-29 Thread Ronald Fox
Hi all, This may be a duplicate message, my original got caught up in a different kind of moderation (I posted as a user that wasn't subscribed to the list!). The original was sent by me at 07:20 HST today. -- Original Message to LUAU and HOSEF Managers Lists - Late last night we

[LUAU] HOSEF Directors agree to meet - please stay tuned for further news

2008-03-29 Thread Ronald L Fox
Hi all, Third time's the charm I hope, I'm subcribed to both lists as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this is being posted from a server that's _physically_ at aloha.com using PINE so if this doesn't work then I'm really confused! Please ignore the other two postings of the same message (and the typo

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF directors agree to meet - please stay tuned for furher

2008-03-29 Thread Nam Vu
Aloha Ron, Given the atmosphere, do you think a tele-conference is a good idea as many things get lost without face-to-face interactions? May I suggest an open meeting where members are invited? I've been on boards where meetings are open to the public, but the public is NOT invited to speak,

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread 808blogger
this is a joke right? On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 4:05 am, Vince Hoang wrote: You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want what is best for

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread 808blogger
+1 You advocate stronger moderation, I disagree. Had there not been the reported moderation (censorship) on the HOSEF managers list would we be discussing this? ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Michael Bishop
Gary Sublett wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:11:29 -1000 Michael Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Sublett wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:05:12 -0700 Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF directors agree to meet - please stay tuned for further news

2008-03-29 Thread Ronald Fox
Hi Nam, On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 10:04 -1000, Nam Vu wrote: Aloha Ron, Given the atmosphere, do you think a tele-conference is a good idea as many things get lost without face-to-face interactions? The sole purpose of this meeting is to correct some of the misunderstandings that have arisen

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF directors agree to meet - please stay tuned forfurther news

2008-03-29 Thread Nam Vu
Aloha Ron, Thanks. Hopefully calm, level heads will prevail and the outcome will be good for all interested parties. I hope that you will openly share the outcome. Nam -Original Message- From: Ronald Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:46 PM To: LUAU;

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Gary Sublett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince asked for input from list members and I provided mine. Thanks. I would appreciate suggestions on alternatives that would achieve the goal of keeping personal attacks off list. I want HOSEF content back on

Re: [LUAU] list moderation

2008-03-29 Thread Peter Besenbruch
On Saturday 29 March 2008 16:43:04 Vince Hoang wrote: I want HOSEF content back on hosef-managers, but it is the personal attacks that triggered my [extreme] reaction. I'm glad you did what you did. It was getting very ugly. -- Hawaiian Astronomical Society: http://www.hawastsoc.org HAS