Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

There was not really a thread about games. I just said that maybe the  
People who will use lubuntu wont have Internet at all, and Even if  
they have a (slowly) connection, they wont know how to install games.  
So no matter how many games there are available, they wont play them.  
If we put one or too small Games into lubuntu, these people would  
thank us . I thought about sth like minesweeper  and snake, maybe also  
a cardsgame'



To the colours: of course there are other distributions with green,  
and maybe also some with lxde. But lubuntu wont Be a Small  
Distribution with lxde, it will become an official ubuntu derivat . We  
should concentrate  on that fact and just see the logos and colours of  
the other officially ubuntubased distributions such As xubuntu and  
kubuntu. Both of them are Blue. And lubuntu: i don't like purple.  
Green would fit into the philsophy of lubuntu and lxde: Not needing  
many Ressources, you can use your old computer and don't have to buy a  
New one. I would keep on green.


Best regards,
Jo

Am 18.02.2010 um 07:10 schrieb "josef A. Beroeatwarin" >:



Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that  
wicd.

I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is  
detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the  
latest kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because  
in Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have  
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating  
packages or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:


2010/2/17 Sylkis 
1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there  
are

relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)

1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space  
isn't good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[josef A. Beroeatwarin]

Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that wicd.
I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the latest 
kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because in 
Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have 
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating packages 
or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:

2010/2/17 Sylkis mailto:syl...@gmail.com>>

1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)


1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't 
good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Fwd: Re: Colourchange?]

[Andrew Woodhead]

MoonOS is green too (LXDE based) and so is Fluxbuntu ;)



On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:20 AM, josef A. Beroeatwarin <
rajatanpacel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all Lubuntu geeks or whatever :-)
>
> So its sound like  we are so close with the release of Lubuntu. Green is
> nice and for the one that took time to make the green logo thank you...
> I like to have a different colour... because kubuntu is blue, ubuntu is
> brown xubuntu is grey,wattos (ubuntu derived and using lxde) is green just
> like opensuse.
> I like  to see purple with a combination with black or grey... I not a
> really a purple lover I am more of green or blue but... I what to see
> something different with a own status of colour and with the the logo of
> ubuntu as sign "where we come from"
> So guys what do you think of purple with black, grey maybe metalic,
> ofcourse its sound heavy but its still runs light...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original Message   Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop]
> Colourchange? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:03:06 -0600 From: Dallas
> Wiebelhaus   To:
> lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net References:
> <98e5a5931002170923x5f3be672je41032d9bb3de...@mail.gmail.com><98e5a5931002170923x5f3be672je41032d9bb3de...@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> +1 4 Blue.
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sylkis  wrote:
>
>> I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
>> are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
>> everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
>> possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
>> really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
>> green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
>> other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
>> that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
>> or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
>> one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
>> what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
>> green. but decision is up to whole community ;)
>>
>> 2010/2/17 jo franz :
>> > look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There are so
>> many
>> > ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than blue,
>> the
>> > artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just look at
>> the
>> > attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.
>> >
>> > 2010/2/17 Sylkis 
>> >>
>> >> I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and metallic
>> >> LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
>> >> further for a nice result?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2010/2/17 jo franz :
>> >> > i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
>> >> >
>> >> > 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can we see some quick concepts?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> GB
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz <
>> jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea
>> today:
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
>> >> >> > wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be
>> >> >> > worth
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
>> >> >> > shouldn't we
>> >> >> > try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we
>> >> >> > don't
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates.
>> The
>> >> >> > colour
>> >> >> > green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less
>> resources",
>> >> >> > how
>> >> >> > "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
>> >> >> > So what do you think, guys?
>> >> >> >
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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Fwd: Re: Colourchange?]

[josef A. Beroeatwarin]

Hi all Lubuntu geeks or whatever :-)

So its sound like  we are so close with the release of Lubuntu. Green is 
nice and for the one that took time to make the green logo thank you...
I like to have a different colour... because kubuntu is blue, ubuntu is 
brown xubuntu is grey,wattos (ubuntu derived and using lxde) is green 
just like opensuse.
I like  to see purple with a combination with black or grey... I not a 
really a purple lover I am more of green or blue but... I what to see 
something different with a own status of colour and with the the logo of 
ubuntu as sign "where we come from"
So guys what do you think of purple with black, grey maybe metalic, 
ofcourse its sound heavy but its still runs light...







 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?
Date:   Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:03:06 -0600
From:   Dallas Wiebelhaus 
To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
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+1 4 Blue.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sylkis > wrote:


   I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
   are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
   everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
   possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
   really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
   green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
   other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
   that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
   or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
   one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
   what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
   green. but decision is up to whole community ;)

   2010/2/17 jo franz mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com>>:
> look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There
   are so many
> ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than
   blue, the
> artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just
   look at the
> attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.
>
> 2010/2/17 Sylkis mailto:syl...@gmail.com>>
>>
>> I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and
   metallic
>> LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
>> further for a nice result?
>>
>>
>> 2010/2/17 jo franz mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com>>:
>> > i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
>> >
>> > 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau mailto:gbiz...@gmail.com>>
>> >>
>> >> Can we see some quick concepts?
>> >>
>> >> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
>> >>
>> >> GB
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz
   mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good
   idea today:
>> >> > what
>> >> > about a change from blue to green? we would have to change
   all the
>> >> > wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it
   would be
>> >> > worth
>> >> > the
>> >> > time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
>> >> > shouldn't we
>> >> > try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone
   Distribution - we
>> >> > don't
>> >> > have
>> >> > to take the same colours as the other official
   ubuntu-derivates. The
>> >> > colour
>> >> > green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less
   resources",
>> >> > how
>> >> > "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
>> >> > So what do you think, guys?
>> >> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Feedback new testing ISO 20100215

[Julien Lavergne]

Le mardi 16 février 2010 à 10:33 -0500, Julián Alarcón a écrit :
> mplayer package (gui) is still a dependence to lubuntu-desktop, and,
> wea re going to use just Synaptic to install/remove apps an update?

Yes, too be sure it's installed with lubuntu-desktop. However, you can
remove it when your system is updated, and re-installed it when you want
to upgrade.
Synaptic will be alone, because we only need 1 interface for installing
packages.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Julien Lavergne]

Hi,

The problem for an artwork is not the color, it's to have a theme as
complete as possible. A theme is not just a logo + a wallpaper.

If someone propose a theme complete, clean and nice, even if it's green,
orange, blue, pink etc ... it will be considered.

Deadline is the March 4th for integration, so it needs to be ready
before this date.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

Le mercredi 17 février 2010 à 18:23 +0100, jo franz a écrit :
> hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
> what about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all
> the wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be
> worth the time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu -
> why shouldn't we try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone
> Distribution - we don't have to take the same colours as the other
> official ubuntu-derivates. The colour green "would fit nicely with the
> idea of lxde using less resources", how "jekopsch", the one who had
> this idea, said. 
> So what do you think, guys? 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Dallas Wiebelhaus]

+1 4 Blue.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sylkis  wrote:

> I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
> are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
> everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
> possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
> really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
> green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
> other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
> that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
> or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
> one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
> what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
> green. but decision is up to whole community ;)
>
> 2010/2/17 jo franz :
> > look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There are so
> many
> > ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than blue,
> the
> > artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just look at
> the
> > attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.
> >
> > 2010/2/17 Sylkis 
> >>
> >> I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and metallic
> >> LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
> >> further for a nice result?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2010/2/17 jo franz :
> >> > i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
> >> >
> >> > 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau 
> >> >>
> >> >> Can we see some quick concepts?
> >> >>
> >> >> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
> >> >>
> >> >> GB
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz  >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea
> today:
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
> >> >> > wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be
> >> >> > worth
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
> >> >> > shouldn't we
> >> >> > try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates.
> The
> >> >> > colour
> >> >> > green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less
> resources",
> >> >> > how
> >> >> > "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
> >> >> > So what do you think, guys?
> >> >> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Sylkis]

I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
green. but decision is up to whole community ;)

2010/2/17 jo franz :
> look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There are so many
> ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than blue, the
> artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just look at the
> attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.
>
> 2010/2/17 Sylkis 
>>
>> I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and metallic
>> LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
>> further for a nice result?
>>
>>
>> 2010/2/17 jo franz :
>> > i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
>> >
>> > 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau 
>> >>
>> >> Can we see some quick concepts?
>> >>
>> >> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
>> >>
>> >> GB
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
>> >> > what
>> >> > about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
>> >> > wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be
>> >> > worth
>> >> > the
>> >> > time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
>> >> > shouldn't we
>> >> > try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we
>> >> > don't
>> >> > have
>> >> > to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
>> >> > colour
>> >> > green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources",
>> >> > how
>> >> > "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
>> >> > So what do you think, guys?
>> >> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Julián Alarcón]

Agree, many blues (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora)
Green (OpenSuse, Mint)
Red (Red Hat, Debian??)
Yellow ... not a great and easy color
Brown ... (Ubuntu)
Grey (Xubuntu?)

I like something different to blue.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Josep Sànchez]

2010/2/17 Steve :
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:49:06 -, Shabab Mustafa
>  wrote:
>
>> Green looks good. :)
>> ---
>> Shabab Mustafa
>>
>>
> +1
>
> Far too many blue OSs.

I agree too.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Steve]

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:49:06 -, Shabab Mustafa  
 wrote:



Green looks good. :)
---
Shabab Mustafa



+1

Far too many blue OSs.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Shabab Mustafa]

Green looks good. :)
---
Shabab Mustafa



On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Glen Bizeau  wrote:

> I like logo2, looks nice with the black background.
>
> I personally like it, you have my vote.
>
> :)
>
> Glen
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, jo franz 
> wrote:
> > i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
> >
> > 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau 
> >>
> >> Can we see some quick concepts?
> >>
> >> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
> >>
> >> GB
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz 
> >> wrote:
> >> > hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
> >> > what
> >> > about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
> >> > wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth
> >> > the
> >> > time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
> >> > shouldn't we
> >> > try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we
> don't
> >> > have
> >> > to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
> >> > colour
> >> > green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources",
> how
> >> > "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
> >> > So what do you think, guys?
> >> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Glen Bizeau]

I like logo2, looks nice with the black background.

I personally like it, you have my vote.

:)

Glen


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, jo franz  wrote:
> i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
>
> 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau 
>>
>> Can we see some quick concepts?
>>
>> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
>>
>> GB
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz 
>> wrote:
>> > hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
>> > what
>> > about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
>> > wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth
>> > the
>> > time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
>> > shouldn't we
>> > try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't
>> > have
>> > to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
>> > colour
>> > green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources", how
>> > "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
>> > So what do you think, guys?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Sylkis]

I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and metallic
LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
further for a nice result?


2010/2/17 jo franz :
> i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
>
> 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau 
>>
>> Can we see some quick concepts?
>>
>> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
>>
>> GB
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz 
>> wrote:
>> > hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
>> > what
>> > about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
>> > wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth
>> > the
>> > time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
>> > shouldn't we
>> > try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't
>> > have
>> > to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
>> > colour
>> > green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources", how
>> > "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
>> > So what do you think, guys?
>> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Glen Bizeau]

http://iit.bloomu.edu/vthc/design/psychology.htm

Just for fun...

Glen

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Glen Bizeau  wrote:
> Can we see some quick concepts?
>
> Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
>
> GB
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz  wrote:
>> hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what
>> about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
>> wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth the
>> time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we
>> try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have
>> to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour
>> green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources", how
>> "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
>> So what do you think, guys?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[Glen Bizeau]

Can we see some quick concepts?

Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)

GB

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz  wrote:
> hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what
> about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
> wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth the
> time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we
> try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have
> to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour
> green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources", how
> "jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
> So what do you think, guys?
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

[jo franz]

hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what
about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth the
time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we
try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have
to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour
green "would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources", how
"jekopsch", the one who had this idea, said.
So what do you think, guys?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Mike Nokel]

2010/2/17 Sylkis 

> 1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
> as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
> switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
> that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
> unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
> biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
> relatively few of them
> 2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
> for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...
>
> 12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)
>

1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't good
idea, I think.
12) Oh, I see. Thank you.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Sylkis]

1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)

2010/2/17 Mike Nokel :
>> Hi.
>
> I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
> looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
> 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
> that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
> 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
> This empty space looks really strange.
> 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
> 4) you have included "osmo" as a default program. My friends and me haven't
> heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
> necessary to be included, I think.
> 5) without installing packages "xscreensaver-gl", "xscreensaver-gl-extra",
> "xscreensaver-data-extra" I see a lot of error messages telling me that
> there is no directory "/usr/share/backgrounds". It is annoying.
> 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
> this: "ubu...@ubuntu:~/". But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
> appears unexpectably.
> 7) some buttons such as "OK", "Cancel" just don't work (only hitting "Close
> Window" helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
> panel for example.
> 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
> problems:
>      - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
> by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing "sudo lxpanelctl restart"
> helped me.
>      - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
> will be hard to understand what do if they want enable "autologin" or so on.
>      - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
> /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu->Games->...). It
> won't work.
> 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
> downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run "sudo
> alsaconf" and after reboot I heart the sound.
> 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
> "xorg-driver-fglrx", it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
> dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
> 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
> "segmentation fault". I don't know why.
> 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?
> So, this is my first experience.
> Regards,
> Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Mike Nokel]

>
> Hi.

I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
This empty space looks really strange.
3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
4) you have included "osmo" as a default program. My friends and me haven't
heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
necessary to be included, I think.
5) without installing packages "xscreensaver-gl", "xscreensaver-gl-extra",
"xscreensaver-data-extra" I see a lot of error messages telling me that
there is no directory "/usr/share/backgrounds". It is annoying.
6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
this: "ubu...@ubuntu:~/". But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
appears unexpectably.
7) some buttons such as "OK", "Cancel" just don't work (only hitting "Close
Window" helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
panel for example.
8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
problems:
 - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing "sudo lxpanelctl restart"
helped me.
 - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
will be hard to understand what do if they want enable "autologin" or so on.
 - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
/etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu->Games->...). It
won't work.
9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run "sudo
alsaconf" and after reboot I heart the sound.
10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
"xorg-driver-fglrx", it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
"segmentation fault". I don't know why.
12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?

So, this is my first experience.

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding HDD software to default programs

[Sylkis]

I love KJupingCube, KBattleship, KMajhongg (or whatever it's called)
and KDE's card game pack - but its QT :(

2010/2/17 jo franz :
> yeah, gparted would be great. and what about some ligtweight games ? Some
> Snake- or minesweeper-clones. they would not take much place , but many of
> the users we aim at will never install any software , so no matter how many
> games there are in the repositoires, they wont play them. the classic
> snake-game on facebook for example is only a 1,1 kb swf, and many users
> would be happy about one or two games.
>
> 2010/2/17 Sylkis 
>>
>> that's true. GParted is a must-have, and as PartitionMagicLiveCD works
>> on very old computers I belive it to be lightweight, despite being GUI
>> partition manager with more capabilities than even mainstream
>> commercial programs like PartitionMagic.
>>
>> 2010/2/17 Yaroslav :
>> > Hello everyone.
>> >
>> > What do you think about adding some GUI software to Lubuntu? I'm telling
>> > about Pysdm or(and) Gparted. This programs were rery useful for me, when i
>> > was changing my OS to Linux. Pysdm has no additional dependences on freshly
>> > installed system, Gparted has couple of them, both are lightweight and
>> > powerful
>> >
>> > -
>> > Yaroslav.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding HDD software to default programs

[jo franz]

yeah, gparted would be great. and what about some ligtweight games ? Some
Snake- or minesweeper-clones. they would not take much place , but many of
the users we aim at will never install any software , so no matter how many
games there are in the repositoires, they wont play them. the classic
snake-game on facebook for example is only a 1,1 kb swf, and many users
would be happy about one or two games.

2010/2/17 Sylkis 

> that's true. GParted is a must-have, and as PartitionMagicLiveCD works
> on very old computers I belive it to be lightweight, despite being GUI
> partition manager with more capabilities than even mainstream
> commercial programs like PartitionMagic.
>
> 2010/2/17 Yaroslav :
> > Hello everyone.
> >
> > What do you think about adding some GUI software to Lubuntu? I'm telling
> about Pysdm or(and) Gparted. This programs were rery useful for me, when i
> was changing my OS to Linux. Pysdm has no additional dependences on freshly
> installed system, Gparted has couple of them, both are lightweight and
> powerful
> >
> > -
> > Yaroslav.
> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding HDD software to default programs

[Sylkis]

that's true. GParted is a must-have, and as PartitionMagicLiveCD works
on very old computers I belive it to be lightweight, despite being GUI
partition manager with more capabilities than even mainstream
commercial programs like PartitionMagic.

2010/2/17 Yaroslav :
> Hello everyone.
>
> What do you think about adding some GUI software to Lubuntu? I'm telling 
> about Pysdm or(and) Gparted. This programs were rery useful for me, when i 
> was changing my OS to Linux. Pysdm has no additional dependences on freshly 
> installed system, Gparted has couple of them, both are lightweight and 
> powerful
>
> -
> Yaroslav.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine

[Sylkis]

if chrome does support settings, then chromium must also. It's
basically the same browser, and I have no problem with proxy at
chrome.

2010/2/17 Yaroslav :
> Hello everyone
>
> I'm testing fresh installation of Lubuntu from last ISO. I found, that 
> Chromium does not support any proxy settings. This is serious failure for 
> default OS browser, as for me.
>
> -
> Yaroslav.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve 
> To: Lubuntu 
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:54:25 -
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine
>
>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:51:21 -, Mikhail Maksimov 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm out of the game for some time, sorry.
>> >
>> > My Lubuntu installation crashed and does not start anymore, and I
>> > don't have several hours to do a complete reinstall, it is painfully
>> > slow on such machine. I hope, however, I'll be able to do some testing
>> > on a virtual machine next week. It will definitely be faster than
>> > ages-old Celeron, so no "responsiveness" observations possible, but I
>> > still can see the memory usage numbers.
>> >
>> > And yes, the memory usage numbers are reported while hovering over the
>> > memory bar in taskmanager.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Mikhail
>> >
>> No problem.
>> My test rig has been playing up, turned out to be the HDD ribbon cable.
>> Over 4 hours to install with only 128MB RAM, though I'm amazed the live CD
>> runs at all.
>> Going to wait for the next ISO before doing any more testing.  I'm going
>> through my collection of old parts to see if I can't get a few machines up
>> and running for comparisons.
>>
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PCManFM/libfm calls for heavy testing

[Leszek Lesner]

here the missing attachment :P

On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:11:41 +0800
PCMan  wrote:

> Hi everyone on the list.
> As you know, it's very close to the release of Lubuntu, and pcmanfm2
> doesn't seem to be ready yet.
> Recently I've accelerated the developement and there are many things
> done and do my best to see if I can make it in time.
> 
> What's lacking now:
> 1. thumbnail support: I need more time to make it good. I should not
> only be usable, but it should be good. So, I want to do this
> carefully. If time is not sufficient, I'll release it without
> thumbnail.
> 2. desktop icons are not movable now.
> 3. Some final UI polishing
> 4. Special popup menus for special items (such as items in computer:///)
> 5. applications:/// not fully working. (browsing installed apps is ok,
> but it;s not yet functional)
> 6. ??
> 
> However most of the other planned features are complete or at least working 
> now.
> It's time to make its quality better. Please get it heavily tested and
> I need more debug info.
> Try to compile pcmanfm2/libfm with debug info, and run it with gdb.
> The most easy way is executing ./configure with environment varialbe
> set like this: CFLAGS="-O0 -g".
> This will enable debug info and turn off optimizations. Then, run
> "make install" instead of "make install-strip". This can retain debug
> info.
> Then, run gdb pcmanfm2, and type run in it.
> When you get crash, go to console and type 'bt' in gdb to get
> backtrace and send it to me.
> Backtrace is quite useful for debugging, but you need to have debug
> info in the executable files.
> In addition, if you also installed debug packages for gtk/glib, this
> can make the backtrace in gdb even more readable and this greatly
> helps.
> Please help the debugging and polishing. If you know how to program,
> developers are wanted.
> I already did the most difficult parts. What's left was some UI
> polishing. At least you can help eliminate compiler warnings.
> Help is needed! With aid, I think we can make it for Lubuntun in time.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
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diff --git a/src/main-win-ui.c b/src/main-win-ui.c
index cf8129f..c6b5b96 100644
--- a/src/main-win-ui.c
+++ b/src/main-win-ui.c
@@ -119,7 +119,7 @@ static GtkActionEntry main_win_actions[]=
 {"Cut", GTK_STOCK_CUT, NULL, NULL, NULL, G_CALLBACK(on_cut)},
 {"Copy", GTK_STOCK_COPY, NULL, NULL, NULL, G_CALLBACK(on_copy)},
 {"Paste", GTK_STOCK_PASTE, NULL, NULL, NULL, G_CALLBACK(on_paste)},
-{"Del", GTK_STOCK_DELETE, NULL, NULL, NULL, G_CALLBACK(on_del)},
+{"Del", GTK_STOCK_DELETE, NULL, "Delete", NULL, G_CALLBACK(on_del)},
 {"Rename", NULL, N_("Rename"), "F2", NULL, G_CALLBACK(on_rename)},
 {"Link", NULL, N_("Create Symlink"), NULL, NULL, NULL},
 {"MoveTo", NULL, N_("Move To..."), NULL, NULL, G_CALLBACK(on_move_to)},
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PCManFM/libfm calls for heavy testing

[Leszek Lesner]

Hi,

I tested the latest version. Whats still missing (even though it is in the 
source code) is Shortcut(Hotkey) support on the desktop. 
In the filemanager the delete key is not working. I made a quick patch 
(hopefully that works :P) [see attachment]
Btw. shift delete should delete a file directly without moving to trash. 





On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:11:41 +0800
PCMan  wrote:

> Hi everyone on the list.
> As you know, it's very close to the release of Lubuntu, and pcmanfm2
> doesn't seem to be ready yet.
> Recently I've accelerated the developement and there are many things
> done and do my best to see if I can make it in time.
> 
> What's lacking now:
> 1. thumbnail support: I need more time to make it good. I should not
> only be usable, but it should be good. So, I want to do this
> carefully. If time is not sufficient, I'll release it without
> thumbnail.
> 2. desktop icons are not movable now.
> 3. Some final UI polishing
> 4. Special popup menus for special items (such as items in computer:///)
> 5. applications:/// not fully working. (browsing installed apps is ok,
> but it;s not yet functional)
> 6. ??
> 
> However most of the other planned features are complete or at least working 
> now.
> It's time to make its quality better. Please get it heavily tested and
> I need more debug info.
> Try to compile pcmanfm2/libfm with debug info, and run it with gdb.
> The most easy way is executing ./configure with environment varialbe
> set like this: CFLAGS="-O0 -g".
> This will enable debug info and turn off optimizations. Then, run
> "make install" instead of "make install-strip". This can retain debug
> info.
> Then, run gdb pcmanfm2, and type run in it.
> When you get crash, go to console and type 'bt' in gdb to get
> backtrace and send it to me.
> Backtrace is quite useful for debugging, but you need to have debug
> info in the executable files.
> In addition, if you also installed debug packages for gtk/glib, this
> can make the backtrace in gdb even more readable and this greatly
> helps.
> Please help the debugging and polishing. If you know how to program,
> developers are wanted.
> I already did the most difficult parts. What's left was some UI
> polishing. At least you can help eliminate compiler warnings.
> Help is needed! With aid, I think we can make it for Lubuntun in time.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Adding HDD software to default programs

[Yaroslav]

Hello everyone.

What do you think about adding some GUI software to Lubuntu? I'm telling about 
Pysdm or(and) Gparted. This programs were rery useful for me, when i was 
changing my OS to Linux. Pysdm has no additional dependences on freshly 
installed system, Gparted has couple of them, both are lightweight and powerful

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine

[Leszek Lesner]

Chromium will use the global proxy settings. Hmm... we need a tool for this 
purpose :)

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:35:27 +0300
Yaroslav  wrote:

> Hello everyone
> 
> I'm testing fresh installation of Lubuntu from last ISO. I found, that 
> Chromium does not support any proxy settings. This is serious failure for 
> default OS browser, as for me.
> 
> -
> Yaroslav.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve 
> To: Lubuntu 
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:54:25 -
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine
> 
> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:51:21 -, Mikhail Maksimov   
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm out of the game for some time, sorry.
> > >
> > > My Lubuntu installation crashed and does not start anymore, and I
> > > don't have several hours to do a complete reinstall, it is painfully
> > > slow on such machine. I hope, however, I'll be able to do some testing
> > > on a virtual machine next week. It will definitely be faster than
> > > ages-old Celeron, so no "responsiveness" observations possible, but I
> > > still can see the memory usage numbers.
> > >
> > > And yes, the memory usage numbers are reported while hovering over the
> > > memory bar in taskmanager.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Mikhail
> > >
> > No problem.
> > My test rig has been playing up, turned out to be the HDD ribbon cable.  
> > Over 4 hours to install with only 128MB RAM, though I'm amazed the live CD  
> > runs at all.
> > Going to wait for the next ISO before doing any more testing.  I'm going  
> > through my collection of old parts to see if I can't get a few machines up  
> > and running for comparisons.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Steve
> > 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine

[Yaroslav]

Hello everyone

I'm testing fresh installation of Lubuntu from last ISO. I found, that Chromium 
does not support any proxy settings. This is serious failure for default OS 
browser, as for me.

-
Yaroslav.

-Original Message-
From: Steve 
To: Lubuntu 
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:54:25 -
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine

> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:51:21 -, Mikhail Maksimov   
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm out of the game for some time, sorry.
> >
> > My Lubuntu installation crashed and does not start anymore, and I
> > don't have several hours to do a complete reinstall, it is painfully
> > slow on such machine. I hope, however, I'll be able to do some testing
> > on a virtual machine next week. It will definitely be faster than
> > ages-old Celeron, so no "responsiveness" observations possible, but I
> > still can see the memory usage numbers.
> >
> > And yes, the memory usage numbers are reported while hovering over the
> > memory bar in taskmanager.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Mikhail
> >
> No problem.
> My test rig has been playing up, turned out to be the HDD ribbon cable.  
> Over 4 hours to install with only 128MB RAM, though I'm amazed the live CD  
> runs at all.
> Going to wait for the next ISO before doing any more testing.  I'm going  
> through my collection of old parts to see if I can't get a few machines up  
> and running for comparisons.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Steve
> 
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