Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine

2010-02-17 Thread Sylkis
if chrome does support settings, then chromium must also. It's
basically the same browser, and I have no problem with proxy at
chrome.

2010/2/17 Yaroslav darkwa...@list.ru:
 Hello everyone

 I'm testing fresh installation of Lubuntu from last ISO. I found, that 
 Chromium does not support any proxy settings. This is serious failure for 
 default OS browser, as for me.

 -
 Yaroslav.

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 To: Lubuntu lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:54:25 -
 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Browsers comparison on slow machine

 On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:51:21 -, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I'm out of the game for some time, sorry.
 
  My Lubuntu installation crashed and does not start anymore, and I
  don't have several hours to do a complete reinstall, it is painfully
  slow on such machine. I hope, however, I'll be able to do some testing
  on a virtual machine next week. It will definitely be faster than
  ages-old Celeron, so no responsiveness observations possible, but I
  still can see the memory usage numbers.
 
  And yes, the memory usage numbers are reported while hovering over the
  memory bar in taskmanager.
 
  Sincerely,
  Mikhail
 
 No problem.
 My test rig has been playing up, turned out to be the HDD ribbon cable.
 Over 4 hours to install with only 128MB RAM, though I'm amazed the live CD
 runs at all.
 Going to wait for the next ISO before doing any more testing.  I'm going
 through my collection of old parts to see if I can't get a few machines up
 and running for comparisons.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-17 Thread Mike Nokel

 Hi.

I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
This empty space looks really strange.
3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me haven't
heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
necessary to be included, I think.
5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra,
xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of error messages telling me that
there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying.
6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
appears unexpectably.
7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting Close
Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
panel for example.
8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
problems:
 - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo lxpanelctl restart
helped me.
 - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
will be hard to understand what do if they want enable autologin or so on.
 - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
/etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu-Games-...). It
won't work.
9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run sudo
alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound.
10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
segmentation fault. I don't know why.
12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?

So, this is my first experience.

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-17 Thread Sylkis
1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)

2010/2/17 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com:
 Hi.

 I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
 looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
 that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
 This empty space looks really strange.
 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
 4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me haven't
 heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
 necessary to be included, I think.
 5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra,
 xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of error messages telling me that
 there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying.
 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
 this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
 appears unexpectably.
 7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting Close
 Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
 panel for example.
 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
 problems:
      - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
 by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo lxpanelctl restart
 helped me.
      - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
 will be hard to understand what do if they want enable autologin or so on.
      - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
 /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu-Games-...). It
 won't work.
 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
 downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run sudo
 alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound.
 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
 xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
 dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
 segmentation fault. I don't know why.
 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?
 So, this is my first experience.
 Regards,
 Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Glen Bizeau
Can we see some quick concepts?

Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)

GB

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what
 about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
 wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth the
 time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we
 try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have
 to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour
 green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources, how
 jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
 So what do you think, guys?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Glen Bizeau
http://iit.bloomu.edu/vthc/design/psychology.htm

Just for fun...

Glen

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can we see some quick concepts?

 Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)

 GB

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what
 about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
 wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth the
 time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we
 try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have
 to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour
 green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources, how
 jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
 So what do you think, guys?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Glen Bizeau
I like logo2, looks nice with the black background.

I personally like it, you have my vote.

:)

Glen


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them

 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com

 Can we see some quick concepts?

 Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)

 GB

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
  what
  about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
  wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth
  the
  time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
  shouldn't we
  try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't
  have
  to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
  colour
  green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources, how
  jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
  So what do you think, guys?
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Shabab Mustafa
Green looks good. :)
---
Shabab Mustafa



On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like logo2, looks nice with the black background.

 I personally like it, you have my vote.

 :)

 Glen


 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
 
  2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com
 
  Can we see some quick concepts?
 
  Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
 
  GB
 
  On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
   hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
   what
   about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
   wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth
   the
   time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
   shouldn't we
   try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we
 don't
   have
   to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
   colour
   green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources,
 how
   jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
   So what do you think, guys?
  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Steve
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:49:06 -, Shabab Mustafa  
shabab.must...@gmail.com wrote:



Green looks good. :)
---
Shabab Mustafa



+1

Far too many blue OSs.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Josep Sànchez
2010/2/17 Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:49:06 -, Shabab Mustafa
 shabab.must...@gmail.com wrote:

 Green looks good. :)
 ---
 Shabab Mustafa


 +1

 Far too many blue OSs.

I agree too.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Sylkis
I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
green. but decision is up to whole community ;)

2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
 look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There are so many
 ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than blue, the
 artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just look at the
 attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.

 2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com

 I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and metallic
 LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
 further for a nice result?


 2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
  i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
 
  2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com
 
  Can we see some quick concepts?
 
  Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
 
  GB
 
  On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
   hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
   what
   about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
   wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be
   worth
   the
   time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
   shouldn't we
   try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we
   don't
   have
   to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
   colour
   green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources,
   how
   jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
   So what do you think, guys?
  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Dallas Wiebelhaus
+1 4 Blue.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
 are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
 everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
 possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
 really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
 green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
 other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
 that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
 or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
 one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
 what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
 green. but decision is up to whole community ;)

 2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
  look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There are so
 many
  ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than blue,
 the
  artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just look at
 the
  attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.
 
  2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com
 
  I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and metallic
  LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
  further for a nice result?
 
 
  2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
   i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
  
   2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com
  
   Can we see some quick concepts?
  
   Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
  
   GB
  
   On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
 
   wrote:
hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea
 today:
what
about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be
worth
the
time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
shouldn't we
try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we
don't
have
to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates.
 The
colour
green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less
 resources,
how
jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
So what do you think, guys?
   
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

The problem for an artwork is not the color, it's to have a theme as
complete as possible. A theme is not just a logo + a wallpaper.

If someone propose a theme complete, clean and nice, even if it's green,
orange, blue, pink etc ... it will be considered.

Deadline is the March 4th for integration, so it needs to be ready
before this date.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

Le mercredi 17 février 2010 à 18:23 +0100, jo franz a écrit :
 hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
 what about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all
 the wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be
 worth the time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu -
 why shouldn't we try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone
 Distribution - we don't have to take the same colours as the other
 official ubuntu-derivates. The colour green would fit nicely with the
 idea of lxde using less resources, how jekopsch, the one who had
 this idea, said. 
 So what do you think, guys? 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Fwd: Re: Colourchange?]

2010-02-17 Thread josef A. Beroeatwarin

Hi all Lubuntu geeks or whatever :-)

So its sound like  we are so close with the release of Lubuntu. Green is 
nice and for the one that took time to make the green logo thank you...
I like to have a different colour... because kubuntu is blue, ubuntu is 
brown xubuntu is grey,wattos (ubuntu derived and using lxde) is green 
just like opensuse.
I like  to see purple with a combination with black or grey... I not a 
really a purple lover I am more of green or blue but... I what to see 
something different with a own status of colour and with the the logo of 
ubuntu as sign where we come from
So guys what do you think of purple with black, grey maybe metalic, 
ofcourse its sound heavy but its still runs light...







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+1 4 Blue.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com 
mailto:syl...@gmail.com wrote:


   I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
   are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
   everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
   possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
   really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
   green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
   other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
   that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
   or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
   one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
   what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
   green. but decision is up to whole community ;)

   2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
   mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
 look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There
   are so many
 ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than
   blue, the
 artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just
   look at the
 attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.

 2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com mailto:syl...@gmail.com

 I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and
   metallic
 LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
 further for a nice result?


 2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
   mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
  i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
 
  2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com
   mailto:gbiz...@gmail.com
 
  Can we see some quick concepts?
 
  Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
 
  GB
 
  On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz
   jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
   hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good
   idea today:
   what
   about a change from blue to green? we would have to change
   all the
   wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it
   would be
   worth
   the
   time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
   shouldn't we
   try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone
   Distribution - we
   don't
   have
   to take the same colours as the other official
   ubuntu-derivates. The
   colour
   green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less
   resources,
   how
   jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
   So what do you think, guys?
  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-17 Thread josef A. Beroeatwarin

Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that wicd.
I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the latest 
kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because in 
Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have 
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating packages 
or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:

2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com mailto:syl...@gmail.com

1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)


1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't 
good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.


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