Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Phill Whiteside]

Much better :-)

Just been having a general play (importing accounts to pidgin and chromium
etc).

I did notice that x-chat is there as an IRC agent. When I was running it
with 10.04 Ubuntu, I found it quite greedy for processor time (3 seconds /
10 seconds) - My laptop fan was running quite a lot.

Since changing to pidgin for IRC, I have a much quieter computer (and an
un-burned lap)

As pidgin is going to be shipped, is x-chat required ? I'm just wondering
what affect it was Vs pidgin on lower spec processors.

I know that disk mounting was mentioned, but does / is lubuntu going to have
the equivalent of "Places" to provide a GUI for mounting partitions, it is
quite conceivable for a low specification computer to be dual booting.

Apart from that, absolutely fantastic !!!

Regards,

Phill.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Steve]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:31:16 -, Steve   
wrote:


On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:41:37 -, Jo Gerb   
wrote:



Hey team,

We should think about the games in Lubuntu. I think that with a little
cards-game (like solitaire) and a reaction-game (like snake) most of our
users would be happy. Maybe we also could add a little puzzle-game and
something like Space Invaders, but we have to remember that there's not  
that much free space left. We now have to choose some good games with  
no or just some dependencies that run fast on old hardware. Do you have  
any ideas?


Best regards, Jo.


Space Invaders would be nice, Solitaire is a must, Sudoku maybe.

I’m sure they would fit in the 300MB+ left :)

xinv3d is a Space Invaders type game with no dependencies to drag in.

pacman is also available in the repos and doesn’t have any extra  
dependencies.


tint is a rather nice Tetris clone with no extra dependencies.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] External display does't work on notebook Acer TM 2200

[Denis I.]

Hi everyone,

I tried to run alpha3 on my notebook and found that external display Acer
AL1916 not working after booting OS.
Internal display is broken and I can use vga output only.
I tried two ways loading:

1) Default.
Display was disabled after boot menu.
I could't see boot process and loaded OS.

2) "Safe graphics mode".
I saw boot process but after booting display throw message "Input Not
Supported".

Acer AL1916 contain x1250 ATI graphics chipset.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Steve]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:01:14 -, Glen Bizeau  wrote:


pcmanfm2
 -  complains that /dev/fd0 is not a block device (vmware)

DM
- autologin still does not work



I get a different error when trying to use the floppy

mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write protected, mounting read only
mount I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Glen Bizeau]

pcmanfm2
 -  complains that /dev/fd0 is not a block device (vmware)

DM
- autologin still does not work


Glen


On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 is now available. Don't forget that it's build
> with Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) which is still in Alpha state of development,
> so same warnings :
>
> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
>
> We passed Feature Freeze, that mean most of the features should now be
> available. It's now time for testing and fixing bugs.
>
> New features since Alpha 2 :
> * Main changes in the seed :
>  - chromium for the browser
>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>  - network-manager for the network
>
> * pcmanfm2, the rewrite of the file-manager, is now used by default.
>
> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna.
>
> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> login "ubuntu" without password.
>
> Known bugs:
> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
>
> * Bug reported during testing :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>
> * Specific pages for pcmanfm2 bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing
>
> If you want to create a bootable usb system, please use the usb creator
> directly on Ubuntu.
>
> Please follow the testing process described on this page :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam . You can also
> report problems and bugs relative to the tests on this page.
>
> Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-alpha3.iso
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Steve]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:41:37 -, Jo Gerb   
wrote:



Hey team,

We should think about the games in Lubuntu. I think that with a little
cards-game (like solitaire) and a reaction-game (like snake) most of our
users would be happy. Maybe we also could add a little puzzle-game and
something like Space Invaders, but we have to remember that there's not  
that much free space left. We now have to choose some good games with no  
or just some dependencies that run fast on old hardware. Do you have any  
ideas?


Best regards, Jo.


Space Invaders would be nice, Solitaire is a must, Sudoku maybe.

I’m sure they would fit in the 300MB+ left :)

xinv3d is a Space Invaders type game with no dependencies to drag in.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Sylkis]

I wish KDE games wouldn't bloat evetyhing with QT libs... KPaitience,
KJumpingCube, Kmajhong (or whatever you spell it), KBattleship, etc -
they would be perfect imo. the problem with them it the "K"...

2010/2/26 Mike Nokel :
> 2010/2/26 Jo Gerb 
>>
>> Hey team,
>>
>> We should think about the games in Lubuntu. I think that with a little
>> cards-game (like solitaire) and a reaction-game (like snake) most of our
>> users would be happy. Maybe we also could add a little puzzle-game and
>> something like Space Invaders, but we have to remember that there's not that
>> much free space left. We now have to choose some good games with no or just
>> some dependencies that run fast on old hardware. Do you have any ideas?
>>
>> Best regards, Jo.
>>
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>
> Mmm... What about pysol (http://www.pysol.org/ - it is available in the
> jaunty repositories however only. It doesn;t have much dependencies and is
> written in python), gtkballs (http://gtkballs.antex.ru/#about - it is
> available in the lucid repositories and doesn't have any dependencies except
> gtk)?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Mike Nokel]

2010/2/26 Jo Gerb 

> Hey team,
>
> We should think about the games in Lubuntu. I think that with a little
> cards-game (like solitaire) and a reaction-game (like snake) most of our
> users would be happy. Maybe we also could add a little puzzle-game and
> something like Space Invaders, but we have to remember that there's not that
> much free space left. We now have to choose some good games with no or just
> some dependencies that run fast on old hardware. Do you have any ideas?
>
> Best regards, Jo.
>
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Mmm... What about pysol (http://www.pysol.org/ - it is available in the
jaunty repositories however only. It doesn;t have much dependencies and is
written in python), gtkballs (http://gtkballs.antex.ru/#about - it is
available in the lucid repositories and doesn't have any dependencies except
gtk)?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Steve]

Alpha 3

Live session runs in 128MB RAM but launching an application crashes it,  
not surprising really.


Install takes about 1½ hours, not bad considering lack of speed and  
memory, slow(4x) CD drive as well.


Neither CDs or flash drives auto-mount, though the floppy drive now  
appears.


The panel can’t be moved to the top, with out editing the config file nor  
does transparency work any more either.  This used to work in Alphas 1 & 2.


I’ll report more as it’s used more.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Jo Gerb]

Hey team,

We should think about the games in Lubuntu. I think that with a little
cards-game (like solitaire) and a reaction-game (like snake) most of our
users would be happy. Maybe we also could add a little puzzle-game and
something like Space Invaders, but we have to remember that there's not that
much free space left. We now have to choose some good games with no or just
some dependencies that run fast on old hardware. Do you have any ideas?

Best regards, Jo.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Jo Gerb]

another quick test: the alpha runs great, fast and quite stable.  Some
problems with pcmanfm2 , but its still in developement so thats okay (for
example no auto-mount of usb drives, and i couldn't mount my usb-sticks at
all).
the new design is great.
I also like Leszek's idea: is it too late for including that, or is it still
possible? if yes, we should do that.

best regards
jo

2010/2/26 Sylkis 

> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Sylkis 
> Date: 2010/2/26
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"
> To: Leszek Lesner 
>
>
> > One big feature request for pcmanfm2 (future releases not crucial to this
> > lubuntu release):
> > Add a right click submenu that opens up the folder content when hovering.
> This
> > is a very nice feature that was originally integrated in BeOS and would
> make
> > working on desktop and in folders amazingly fast.
> > Here a screenshot:
> > http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1086/675582246_2a1dd83e92.jpg
>
>
> wow, I love the idea :D kinda resembles browsing files on fluxbox or
> by windows taskbar (i mean when you put desktop bar to it), but seems
> more practical this way
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Sylkis]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Sylkis 
Date: 2010/2/26
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"
To: Leszek Lesner 


> One big feature request for pcmanfm2 (future releases not crucial to this
> lubuntu release):
> Add a right click submenu that opens up the folder content when hovering. This
> is a very nice feature that was originally integrated in BeOS and would make
> working on desktop and in folders amazingly fast.
> Here a screenshot:
> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1086/675582246_2a1dd83e92.jpg


wow, I love the idea :D kinda resembles browsing files on fluxbox or
by windows taskbar (i mean when you put desktop bar to it), but seems
more practical this way

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[Lubuntu-desktop] quick run of lubuntu a3

[Roger Dean]

hi folks

thanks very much for alpha 3 - great fun. here are a couple of things 
i've noticed on a regular partition install, thinkpad x60s


1) when i go to language settings, it asks me to install more packages. 
when i agree, it downloads much stuff including openoffice packages...


2) logged out of lubuntu DE and then in to lubuntu netbook DE. logged 
out and tried to log back in to regular DE. was unable to click cursor 
into username / password box


3) tried to edit date/time settings - unlock button does nothing

4) install gave me pcmanfm 0.9 - is this correct?

5) is mtpaint the finally chosen image editor? to my mind it's visually 
very dated...


6) love the speed... :-)

cheers all
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Julien Lavergne]

Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 12:04 +0300, Yaroslav a écrit :
> Hello.
> 
> I have a bug with network-manager. It doesn't ask me root privileges for 
> changing interface properties, and doesn't save manually entered network 
> settings, e.g. IP adress, netmask, gateway. 
If you are using the live-cd, it's normal, you already have root
privileges. If you launch synaptic, it's the same.
Also, network-manager now don't manage interface which are manually
handle (see http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager , section "Wired
Networks are Unmanaged")

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for the test.

Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 16:38 +0100, Leszek Lesner a écrit :
> - Boot Screen of the LiveCD is not fully localized (the first two entries Try 
> Lubuntu and Install Lubuntu) (misses on the Bug Repot Testing Page) 
Added to the TODO list

> - Borderless windows (like the small mixer window that appears after clicking 
> the soundpanel applet) have borders (that allows them to even close the 
> soundpanel applet and it won't open up again) 
Should be a bug in gtk, there is many borders windows which appears with
recent gtk uploads on Ubuntu. Last upload (not included in the alpha)
may contain a fix.

> - clicking on the trash icon in pcmanfm2 gives an error message ("operation 
> not supported") (moved files won't show up)
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2

> - pcmanfm2 after open folder as root : it opens up but is missing the warning 
> that you are working with root rights now
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2

> - applications:/// is not working (I know it is still work in progress)
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2, it's only the case when
pcmanfm2 is autostarted.

> - Are the PATHs alright ? Trying to run arp -a as user gives me an error that 
> it is in /usr/sbin and /usr/sbin is not in path. (It wasn't there before in 
> ubuntu. Did they change/fixed there security policy ?)
PATH is not set correctly with lxdm, I'm working on a fix.

> - pcmanfm2 misses translation (I know is still coming but I don't want to not 
> mention it so that we don't forget about this)
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2

> - same for gnumeric
Generaly, we need to begin to follow (and fix) translation of other
packages installed by default on Lubuntu.

> - pcmanfm2 desktop creating new document or folder does not work
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2

> - pcmanfm2 still misses to lighten up font color and icon if you choose to 
> cut 
> out a file (only a optical glitch)
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2

> -pcmanfm2 sorting files and folders(particullary ascending and descending) 
> does not work in every view or sometimes simply does nothing (seems not 
> reproducable but happens unoccasionaly)
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2

> - pcmanfm2: A problem I have with detailed list view is that I cannot access 
> easily the properties of the current open folder. If you have a folder with 
> lots of files you are not able to rightclick on a free space. The only 
> solution press go up and right click the folder you where in to get to the 
> properties. Possible solution: Create a folder icon in front of the adressbar 
> and make it useable like a normal icon folder (drag n drop, right click etc.)
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2


> These are the bugs I noticed so far in a quick 15 minute test. 
>  
> One big feature request for pcmanfm2 (future releases not crucial to this 
> lubuntu release):
> Add a right click submenu that opens up the folder content when hovering. 
> This 
> is a very nice feature that was originally integrated in BeOS and would make 
> working on desktop and in folders amazingly fast. 
> Here a screenshot: 
> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1086/675582246_2a1dd83e92.jpg
Added to the bug report page for pcmanfm2 (as feature request)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ProxyGUI for Lubuntu first testversion (lxproxy 0.1)

[Steve]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:59:22 -, Leszek Lesner   
wrote:


Hi ,

I made a first "dirty" testversion of a little proxy configuration GUI for  
Lubuntu.
If someone wants to test it:  
http://zevenos.com/files/lxproxy_0.1ubuntu1_all.deb

As I don't use a proxy I cant really test it.
I followed those rules in getting proxy running:  
http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/397723/
I don't know if the password is necessary anytime. For now it is necessary  
(at least for the gui to work).


have fun


Managed to have a quick test.
http:   worked OK.
https:	Unable to get it to authenticate, could’ve been me though as I  
hadn’t much time.

ftp:unable to test.

Not a great deal of use I know, but 1 out of three isn’t bad

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Leszek Lesner]

Hi,

here are some bugs I noticed(from the LiveCD so far):

- Boot Screen of the LiveCD is not fully localized (the first two entries Try 
Lubuntu and Install Lubuntu) (misses on the Bug Repot Testing Page) 
- Borderless windows (like the small mixer window that appears after clicking 
the soundpanel applet) have borders (that allows them to even close the 
soundpanel applet and it won't open up again) 
- clicking on the trash icon in pcmanfm2 gives an error message ("operation 
not supported") (moved files won't show up)
- pcmanfm2 after open folder as root : it opens up but is missing the warning 
that you are working with root rights now
- applications:/// is not working (I know it is still work in progress)
- Are the PATHs alright ? Trying to run arp -a as user gives me an error that 
it is in /usr/sbin and /usr/sbin is not in path. (It wasn't there before in 
ubuntu. Did they change/fixed there security policy ?)
- pcmanfm2 misses translation (I know is still coming but I don't want to not 
mention it so that we don't forget about this)
- same for gnumeric
- pcmanfm2 desktop creating new document or folder does not work
- pcmanfm2 still misses to lighten up font color and icon if you choose to cut 
out a file (only a optical glitch)
-pcmanfm2 sorting files and folders(particullary ascending and descending) 
does not work in every view or sometimes simply does nothing (seems not 
reproducable but happens unoccasionaly)
- pcmanfm2: A problem I have with detailed list view is that I cannot access 
easily the properties of the current open folder. If you have a folder with 
lots of files you are not able to rightclick on a free space. The only 
solution press go up and right click the folder you where in to get to the 
properties. Possible solution: Create a folder icon in front of the adressbar 
and make it useable like a normal icon folder (drag n drop, right click etc.)


These are the bugs I noticed so far in a quick 15 minute test. 
 
One big feature request for pcmanfm2 (future releases not crucial to this 
lubuntu release):
Add a right click submenu that opens up the folder content when hovering. This 
is a very nice feature that was originally integrated in BeOS and would make 
working on desktop and in folders amazingly fast. 
Here a screenshot: 
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1086/675582246_2a1dd83e92.jpg

Regards,
Leszek Lesner




Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 01:25:10 schrieb Julien Lavergne:
> Hi,
> 
> The Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 is now available. Don't forget that it's build
> with Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) which is still in Alpha state of development,
> so same warnings :
> 
> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> 
> We passed Feature Freeze, that mean most of the features should now be
> available. It's now time for testing and fixing bugs.
> 
> New features since Alpha 2 :
> * Main changes in the seed :
>  - chromium for the browser
>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>  - network-manager for the network
> 
> * pcmanfm2, the rewrite of the file-manager, is now used by default.
> 
> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna.
> 
> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> login "ubuntu" without password.
> 
> Known bugs:
> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
> 
> * Bug reported during testing :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
> 
> * Specific pages for pcmanfm2 bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing
> 
> If you want to create a bootable usb system, please use the usb creator
> directly on Ubuntu.
> 
> Please follow the testing process described on this page :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam . You can also
> report problems and bugs relative to the tests on this page.
> 
> Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-alpha3.iso
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chrome & applets

[Zoltan Matlak]

Same topic again. In Lubuntu alpha3 I have

@lubuntu:~$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_18"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8pre) (6b18~pre1-1ubuntu1)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode)

Chromium is


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Zoltan Matlak  wrote:

> Hi,
> Sorry to disturb the lubuntu mailing list with such a question, but since
> lubuntu is using chromium officially, this might be a relevant topic here,
> too.
>
> I noticed that in lucid, sun-java6 was removed, only openjdk is in the
> repos. Can anybody point me to any information about how to enable/configure
> chrome/chromium in lucid, so that I can load applets with openjdk6
> (idedtea6)? Is it possible at all? Couldn't find any useful info regarding
> this issue.
>
> Any idea or information is appreciated.
> Thanks
> Zoltan
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Yaroslav]

Hello.

I have a bug with network-manager. It doesn't ask me root privileges for 
changing interface properties, and doesn't save manually entered network 
settings, e.g. IP adress, netmask, gateway. 

But i use virtual host on VmWare, maybe this is the source of problem. For now, 
i found temporary troubleshoot, using ifconfig command directly.  




-Original Message-
From: Julien Lavergne 
To: lubuntu-desktop 
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:25:10 +0100
Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

> Hi,
> 
> The Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 is now available. Don't forget that it's build
> with Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) which is still in Alpha state of development,
> so same warnings :
> 
> "Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> 
> We passed Feature Freeze, that mean most of the features should now be
> available. It's now time for testing and fixing bugs.
> 
> New features since Alpha 2 :
> * Main changes in the seed :
>  - chromium for the browser
>  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
>  - network-manager for the network
> 
> * pcmanfm2, the rewrite of the file-manager, is now used by default.
> 
> * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna.
> 
> * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
> to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
> login "ubuntu" without password.
> 
> Known bugs:
> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
> 
> * Bug reported during testing :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
> 
> * Specific pages for pcmanfm2 bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing
> 
> If you want to create a bootable usb system, please use the usb creator
> directly on Ubuntu.  
> 
> Please follow the testing process described on this page :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam . You can also
> report problems and bugs relative to the tests on this page.
> 
> Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-alpha3.iso
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne 
> 
> 
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