Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Doc/Support Request] Removal of Bluetooth
Hi Bhaskar, many thanks for that on disabling Bluetooth. It has been added to the Workarounds area https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds @ A J - it will need adding to your mega thread on the forum. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Bhaskar Kandiyal bkandi...@gmail.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On Monday 26 December 2011 06:52 PM, A. Andjelkovic wrote: Hi list, As I was looking around the web for a way to remove/disable bluetooth completely, as the BIOS of the machine can't do it for some reason (I rather not flash it). I noticed that there were no good documentation regarding this issue, neither on our own wiki[1], help.ubuntu[2], or arch's wiki[3]. So I shamefully ask if someone could provide their expertise to document this issue? Ideas on what to cover: *Disabling bluetooth by configuration. *Removing bluetooth related packages. *Disabling the kernel module (for marginal boot time decrease, if any). Regards, Alexander. [1]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation [2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bluetooth [3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth Well, for disabling the kernel module, you can blacklist it to not load at boot time. lsmod | grep bluetooth - This will give you the bluetooth module and the other modules that require it. For me the output is: bluetooth 179900 23 rfcomm,bnep,btusb You will have to blacklist these modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist So add the following lines to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file: blacklist rfcomm blacklist bnep blacklist btusb blacklist bluetooth And reboot. After the reboot you can check lsmod | grep bluetooth to see if it is loaded or not, if it returns empty then it's not loaded. As for the bluetooth related packages, I'm not sure maybe someone else can point out the relevant packages specific to Lubuntu as I have a lot of other packages installed as well, I believe removing bluez and bluetooth should do it. Hope this helps, cheers :) Regards, Bhaskar Kandiyal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk742SEACgkQc3l9wn9I2Ofo4ACfV0vZMxrdEgfIrPBSJFjEPIef QZgAn3HV/KN1x3Qli6pVUbv2tXxnJeoQ =KTBN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Just came from the hospital ...
Hi AJ, I'm sure I speak on behalf of all in the Lubuntu family in wishing you a speedy recovery. Anti-biotics take a while to get into the system, be patient my young friend. Hope to see you up and about soon. In the meantime, take good care. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:44 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Phill, Hope you are doing well. I just came from hospital. I did a CT-Scan and Blood Test. I have Bacterial Infection. I still need to do more test after 7 days and keep taking some anti-biotic that doesn't seem to work. Anyway, just to let you know about that plus I think I have to be offline for these days. I must get well very soon so I can do what I used to do. Take care and wish you a Happy New year :) -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] My story, and a big Thank-you
Hello all, I would like to tell my story about my experience with Lubuntu and the LXDE Desktop. I've been using Ubuntu since around middle 2009, on a variety of hardware-Dell P4 towers with 9.04 and 9.10, ThinkPad T23 with 10.04, custom Phenom II X4 with 10.10 thru 11.10. I loved using Ubuntu, and Linux in general over Windows XP, and was amazed with the free network tools that you can obtain. However, I had noticed that GNOME 2.x used a lot of system resources, around 380 MB of RAM on average. I didn't mind so much then. But after 11.04 introduced the new Unity interface, it threw me off and I never really adjusted to it. And GNOME 3 hasn't helped performance at all, and removed some features. I tried the KDE desktop for a while, but never really got used to it, and it seemed to use a lot of RAM also. So I became a bit frustrated, trying to find and adjust to a suitable new desktop, and finding all ate my limited RAM up quickly. I began to look at solutions such as Puppy Linux, but they didn't offer quite the same Ubuntu experience, software, and interface organization. Then I heard about Lubuntu this holiday season, after Canonical recognized it as an official project. It looked like my issues were solved, so I quickly downloaded it and started to use it. It has turned out to work great for all I need to do with a graphical desktop, and all the command line tools work of course. Plus the learning curve from GNOME 2.x to LXDE is not very steep. It uses about 180 MB of RAM, which is very reasonable. In fact, I have been able to install Lubuntu on some older computers that I would be unable to run GNOME on. This has been a great Christmas gift for me, and I would like to just say thank you to all of the LXDE developers, Lubuntu developers, and of course PCMan, who started the LXDE desktop. I will be recommending Lubuntu to everyone looking for a fast GNU/Linux distro, and look forward to using it for a long time! Thank you all again, Dan -- There's no place like ~/... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person
Hi Jared, it is for that incorporation that such a team now should leave being just an entry on lp and become active :) Regards, Phill. On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 December 2011 05:31, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi gang, As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the teams back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow. A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2]. Those of you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join! Well, as they said in the Movie Blues Brothers... We're putting the band back together. It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things relating to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode. Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it is for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything 'happening' in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise any issues we, as a team, have. If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to say. A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope there are none. (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's) Regards, Phill. [1]https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unit193 [2]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Sounds fine, my main concern with IRC is how we are travelling integrating into the main ubuntu namespace on freenode. I haven't heard anything about that in a long time. I'd +1 if it meant we started making headway in this regard. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxScreenshot update
Thanks, I have a local git repo at home, I'll push it next weak. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:35:26 +0800 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: I just created a git repo in lxde project for lxscreenshot. See http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxscreenshot;a=summary git://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/lxde/lxscreenshot (read-only) ssh://usern...@lxde.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/lxde/lxscreenshot(read/write) About how to use the git service provided by sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Git#CreatingMultipleRepositories Thank you for the nice applications. Push it to our git repo when you have time, please. Cheers! -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 3G icon.
Thanks boss, Dutifully reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elementary-icon-theme/+bug/909156 Oh, I hope you and your family have a good Christmas and look forward to a great new year! Regards, Phill. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: The actual package name is elementary-icon-theme, if you want to report a bug. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:41:38 +0200 Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote: Its against theme. Try another and see if it appears.Phill Whiteside kirjoitti 25.12.2011 19:39: Hi, just a quick 'paper-cut'. The good news is that the new kernel finally recognises my 3G usb-dongle. The paper cut is that when it is running, the network icon is blank. It is still there on the bar, as in I can right click on the 'space', but unlike Ethernet or Wireless there is no icon. Not sure what package this is against to file a bug. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] My story, and a big Thank-you
Hi Daniel, thank you so much for taking the time to tell your story. It is from people like you that make the entire team drive froward. You may see it as one person who's story will not make a difference... Can I assure you that people like yourself who wish to reply make all the difference in the world. It is for people like you that the team of Lubuntu realise that it all is worth while. Thank you for your kind words, you will have put a smile on many people who work hard. Certainly mine. Regards, Phill. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Daniel Ziegler d.ziegle...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I would like to tell my story about my experience with Lubuntu and the LXDE Desktop. I've been using Ubuntu since around middle 2009, on a variety of hardware-Dell P4 towers with 9.04 and 9.10, ThinkPad T23 with 10.04, custom Phenom II X4 with 10.10 thru 11.10. I loved using Ubuntu, and Linux in general over Windows XP, and was amazed with the free network tools that you can obtain. However, I had noticed that GNOME 2.x used a lot of system resources, around 380 MB of RAM on average. I didn't mind so much then. But after 11.04 introduced the new Unity interface, it threw me off and I never really adjusted to it. And GNOME 3 hasn't helped performance at all, and removed some features. I tried the KDE desktop for a while, but never really got used to it, and it seemed to use a lot of RAM also. So I became a bit frustrated, trying to find and adjust to a suitable new desktop, and finding all ate my limited RAM up quickly. I began to look at solutions such as Puppy Linux, but they didn't offer quite the same Ubuntu experience, software, and interface organization. Then I heard about Lubuntu this holiday season, after Canonical recognized it as an official project. It looked like my issues were solved, so I quickly downloaded it and started to use it. It has turned out to work great for all I need to do with a graphical desktop, and all the command line tools work of course. Plus the learning curve from GNOME 2.x to LXDE is not very steep. It uses about 180 MB of RAM, which is very reasonable. In fact, I have been able to install Lubuntu on some older computers that I would be unable to run GNOME on. This has been a great Christmas gift for me, and I would like to just say thank you to all of the LXDE developers, Lubuntu developers, and of course PCMan, who started the LXDE desktop. I will be recommending Lubuntu to everyone looking for a fast GNU/Linux distro, and look forward to using it for a long time! Thank you all again, Dan -- There's no place like ~/... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
Hi Hùng, an apology from me. We will get it updated to the alternate ISO. As we got full adoption, the builds and releases of Lubuntu having both the approved system and our older not fully approved builds. I do thank you for bringing this to our attention, we are a small team can miss things. @ Julien PCMan an older FAQ, can it be up dated, or simply point to a more recent area. @ A J await until you are better add it to the thread on the forum. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About lxpanel2
I have a question about lxpanel2. Are you planing to make it using an object oriented approach? -- University of Informatic Sciences (UCI) http://www.uci.cu Nova Light Development Team http://www.nova.cu Alexis López Zubieta azubi...@estudiantes.uci.cu Fin a la injusticia, LIBERTAD AHORA A NUESTROS CINCO COMPATRIOTAS QUE SE ENCUENTRAN INJUSTAMENTE EN PRISIONES DE LOS EEUU! http://www.antiterroristas.cu http://justiciaparaloscinco.wordpress.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the other stuff anyway? I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
Hi Phill, You're welcome! I think it's not your fault and I'm very happy to be a part of the team :). Hi Jared, I agree with you too. Actually sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop is the command I always use because I don't have time to remove the applications I don't use (like ace-of-penguins game, gnome-mplayer...). Hi all, I think we should give some explaintions in the wiki. If reader wants a full Lubuntu desktop, just use sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop, if he/she wants a minimal desktop and then add new applications by him/herself, so just use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ On 28 December 2011 14:01, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the other stuff anyway? I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
Keeping low profile for some days is VERY boring but I won't overdo it so one reply and I'm off :) From what I understand: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download If you read the above two links, you maybe a little bit confused and think both are the same but in the matter of fact, these two installs are NOT the same. From the first link: The Minimal CD will download packages from online archives at installation time instead of providing them on the install CD itself. Downloading packages at install time reduces the size of the install CD to approximately 5 to 30MB depending on architecture (see below), as well as providing only the packages needed for installation. The download time savings achieved by using a Minimal CD can be significant, as only current packages are downloaded, so there is no need to upgrade packages immediately after installation. The Minimal CD uses a text-based installer like the Alternate CD, making the CD image as compact as possible. From the second link: The text-based alternate installer can be downloaded from a location near you http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download. This installation CD is suited for computers unable to run the graphical desktop based installation, either because their computer does not meet the minimum requirements for the live cd or because their computer requires configuration after the installation is complete in order to use the desktop. This link here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems May give a better understanding. From what I understand, the mini install could be used not only for people with low end hardware but also for those who seek simplicity and want to build their system as per what they really need and avoid the extra stuff. Once you have the base or the core system, you can install whatever you want. So, I'm with Jared and also happy to be proved wrong :) If we are wrong, then the above two links MUST be updated and someone must be more accurate. By the way, last night, I was SO bored so I downloaded the mini iso and installed it on one of my test PCs. I managed to find a wired connection (finally) because I always use the Wireless connection. I'm actually planning to build a system that even lighter than Lubuntu (the one that we all know). I'm planning to do some tests so later on I can install Lubuntu instead of Linux Mint LXDE 9 on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 By the way, YES, that laptop does work until now. At that time, Lubuntu 10.04 did not work at all and I had less experience than now. I do want to install Lubuntu and will do whatever it takes to do that. Thank you everyone :) Now, logging off. @Phill Once I can resume my normal activities, I'm going to finish my test with the mini install and if I managed to do what I want, I'll write a simple guide and add it to Lubuntu One Stop Thread :) if there will be more details then I'll write a new thread and then add it to LOST. :) On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the other stuff anyway? I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
As you know, before we were adopted, we only had 'home spun' disks... The Full On Ubiquity was always to be the official one, but not a great deal of help for lower spec computers. The argument did go up as to why they botched a bug by requiring 2 X Ram instead of simply putting your patch in. You do not know how much this idiotic 'fix' caused, but we were not adopted at that point and could not log it as a regression. Since then the bug has remained, it does, Jared, really grate me as it was such a simple fix to bloody make and get Ubiquity running at a decent speed. To keep the peace, we were told to accept the alternate iso which does not require Ubiquity. As the Canonical team are now also trying to build PPC / Mac-Intel / ARM etc. I do ask what are the more important cases for the kernel team and also the QA / Testing team to prioritise? Julien has already made it quite clear that any group that wish support for a particular chip set Get a testing team together we will do it. No decent testing team == no support. Oh, does this sound backwards?... Until we have people to test, we simply cannot test... So go get your friends. @ QA - do tell me where I am wrong in terms of bodies to test. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the other stuff anyway? I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
