[Lubuntu-desktop] Tested on MSI Wind U100

2009-12-09 Thread Josef A. Beroeatwarin

Hai everybody

Hai I tested Lubuntu on my MSI wind U100, I am not a pro like you guys 
but I like to have my hands on it because I really believe lubuntu
will be much better the Xubuntu. And of course I WANT to have a very 
lightweight linux on my netbook and PC.


I am running on Ubuntu 9.10 remix  installed on my MSI Wind U100, after 
I while I started with Apt to install LXDE
After running on LXDE I was satisfied and very optimistic that  it will 
be one  that  I am looking for.( after a lot of  switching for linux to 
linux)


Here are the problems on the MSI wind U100:

* Filemanager Pcman  0.5.1 on the left windows are drives displayed 
twice. if you click one of the with the same name you will get an 
error-message Directory doesnt exist
* Wicd it a very nice looking piece but to bad, to while connection the 
the wirelles network (WEP) ofcourse it was validated but I got an error 
message Connection failed:Unable get IP Adress that was during the 
status Obtaining IP address.
* I have no sound I realize I have no mixer something like that so I 
dont know if its muting or not.
* FN keys. FN+F4 and FN+F5 is working very well,its for dimming the 
back-light and  FN+F12 sleep mode is working but after wakeup its 
starting to sleep again and again after wakeup
*My bluetooth is witched on with FN+F11 but no blue-tooth detected 
(sorry I forgot to listed with lsusb before installing ubuntu remix again)

* Harddisk external and flashdisk is working very well.

My Questions,request,Ideas,what I hope very soon or whatever it is.

1. The Lubuntu in alpha stage on iso,when. Ofcourse everybody is busy.
2. Lubuntu on flash disk image because there is alot of netbooks without 
CD or DVD.
3. Sometimes I got netbook that has an SDcard as HDA is it compatible 
with it ?
4. I think Lubuntu will be great for creating server from old PC's with 
GUI interface instead having console at from your nose and doing that Vi 
thing.Maybe is there somebody can make a server edition. While 
installing you can choose what of kind of server do you want to install.

5. And nice front-end for backup that can make image of the drives.
6. Do you guys think that thunderbird and firefox take of computer 
sources especially nower days there is allot of websites based on flash  
like  farmville it make even windows xp slow.
7. What is the other syntax like dmesg and lsusb that I can use to get 
info out of my toys and to send to you guys.
8. Last thing that I want to say is.. I am sorry for starting asking 
allot of questions even the alpha  is not out yet...


Well guys thats it... I hope its enough for the input.




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Tested on MSI Wind U100

2009-12-10 Thread Josef A. Beroeatwarin

To repond to the Gui interface for server.

I work daily as administrator, I have Ubuntu as internet/firewall 
server. I think its easier with gui interface like LXDE. Because if I do 
it in console I have to go to the forum again to get the instruction for 
the setup and all that stuff and ofcourse I always forget something like 
installing DHCP-server, maskirq something package in the apt. And I see 
alot of people with the same profession has the same problems.And there 
is allot of server with sort kind gui interface like PF-sense but its 
webbased its very good.As David said it the early mail to have soho 
server on a netbook. I had a situation where I needed a laptop  to 
replace the email server. And its amaze me again how powerfull linux can 
be but the time to build up and finding other info  costed me time. But 
in my opinion it will be nice to have LXDE on server edition with some 
programs and tutorials and sample to help out the daily problem. Even an 
average administrators with good scenarios doesnt always work out the 
problems in my cases specially newbies. A server on a flashdisk will be 
nice in critical situation. Just plug in start the pc and take over the 
network.


In a flash I remember article about Media Entertainment Server 
Geexbox... A server, you can listen to the music and watch tv channels 
like MythTv and if you have a tv tuner it will be great.. If I am 
correct you can do even videostreaming thru wirelles  to other pc's at 
home... I guess its possible to install LXDE on the server so if you 
acces your server you will get LXDE on your pc or other gadget and do 
something with your files,printing or whatever its is just like in a 
Unix terminals in the  80's and 90's.Ltsp, David you talked about that I 
guess its something to do with it...


Thanks for reading,
Josef


Dallas Wiebelhaus wrote:
I agree with David. Also anyone who is performing these highly 
specialized installations is certainly going to have the knowledge 
required to open the command line and sudo apt-get whatever gui or 
lack thereof he/she wants.



n Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:26 PM, David Sugar david.su...@canonical.com 
mailto:david.su...@canonical.com wrote:


I actually was not suggesting there should be such a remix.  I was
suggesting however that one could potentially do this with mini-iso
install by selecting them explicitly at install time if we have lxde
desktop as a task in mini-iso.  And yes, one could do a server install
and add lxde/lubuntu after.  It can in some cases be useful to have a
local server gui console.  Another interesting scenario is ltsp.

Mikhail Maksimov wrote:
 Hello.

 Just one thing I wanted to note: server GUI is a bad idea. If
you want
 server, you install server, if you want a workstation on low-grade
 hardware, you install Lubuntu. If you have low-grade hardware to
use as
 a server, you definitely shouldn't be wasting the precious (and,
oh, so
 limited!) RAM and CPU resources on GUI instead of serving something.

 If someone wants to have lubuntu desktop on server, there's
always an
 option of installing server then adding any desktop environment, or
 maybe installing Lubuntu then switching to the server kernel. But I
 think all the possible mix options should not be part of Lubuntu
 installer, nor should there be a separate server+LXDE remix of
Lubuntu
 (Ubuntu?)

 Regards!
 Mikhail

 PS If you don't like vi, you can use nano, it's part of the server
 install and it is WYSIWIG.

 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Josef A. Beroeatwarin
 rajatanpacel...@gmail.com mailto:rajatanpacel...@gmail.com
mailto:rajatanpacel...@gmail.com
mailto:rajatanpacel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hai everybody

 Hai I tested Lubuntu on my MSI wind U100, I am not a pro
like you
 guys but I like to have my hands on it because I really
believe lubuntu
 will be much better the Xubuntu. And of course I WANT to
have a very
 lightweight linux on my netbook and PC.

 I am running on Ubuntu 9.10 remix  installed on my MSI Wind
U100,
 after I while I started with Apt to install LXDE
 After running on LXDE I was satisfied and very optimistic
that  it
 will be one  that  I am looking for.( after a lot of
 switching for
 linux to linux)

 Here are the problems on the MSI wind U100:

 * Filemanager Pcman  0.5.1 on the left windows are drives
displayed
 twice. if you click one of the with the same name you will
get an
 error-message Directory doesnt exist
 * Wicd it a very nice looking piece but to bad, to while
connection
 the the wirelles network (WEP) ofcourse it was validated but
I got
 an error message Connection failed:Unable get IP Adress

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Tested on MSI Wind U100

2009-12-10 Thread Josef A. Beroeatwarin

Hi again,

* So filemanager will be rewritten well its great.

*About the FN keys. I tested in ubuntu's Karmic koala with the FN+F12 
sleep mode.. I had no problem with that... only the funny thing was I 
realize the backlight was not flickering in LXDE like G-NOME.


*About Wicd I made a bug report.
The status is

Affects: wicd
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/495319


*About server with GUI ofcourse different opinion is for me no problem 
:-)  In fact I believe differ ence make people closer

and get better point of the situation..

* About the mixer yes keep it only on the imporant channels like main 
channel.


* SD card on HDA, I read about it on the launchpad, blueprint the link 
was sended by David. Its ok but It possible that more of the SD card on 
hda will come out maybe with the ARM processors  to get  cheaper 
netbook. Its a big job and I have no capacity to join and fixing the 
problem... I learn Java and C but I left it behind because i am more a 
player than a creator... So 2 thumbs up the programmers that will fix 
it.


Thanks.
Josef


Julien Lavergne wrote:

 Hi,

Thanks for your feedback, let me try to answer some of your
questions/ideas :

  
* Filemanager Pcman  0.5.1 on the left windows are drives displayed 
twice. if you click one of the with the same name you will get an 
error-message Directory doesnt exist


Pcmanfm will be rewrite for the next release, it will be interesting to
test this on the next release, as version 0.5.X is not developed
anymore 

  
* Wicd it a very nice looking piece but to bad, to while connection the 
the wirelles network (WEP) ofcourse it was validated but I got an error 
message Connection failed:Unable get IP Adress that was during the 
status Obtaining IP address.


It's more a bug on wicd than on Lubuntu itself. You should report a bug
on the package.

  
* I have no sound I realize I have no mixer something like that so I 
dont know if its muting or not.


Lubuntu will have a volume applet by default, to be able to change your
sound more easily. I don't think we need a real mixer (with all channels
configuration), most of people just want to manage the main channel.

  
* FN keys. FN+F4 and FN+F5 is working very well,its for dimming the 
back-light and  FN+F12 sleep mode is working but after wakeup its 
starting to sleep again and again after wakeup
*My bluetooth is witched on with FN+F11 but no blue-tooth detected 
(sorry I forgot to listed with lsusb before installing ubuntu remix again)



Do you test this with Ubuntu, or another variant ? It could be a problem
in general in Ubuntu, not only Lubuntu.

  

My Questions,request,Ideas,what I hope very soon or whatever it is.

1. The Lubuntu in alpha stage on iso,when. Ofcourse everybody is busy.


Next week for an alpha 1, if I manage to build one correctly :)

  
2. Lubuntu on flash disk image because there is alot of netbooks without 
CD or DVD.


If you have an iso, you can create an img for flash disk. I'll do it if
I'm not too lazy :)

  
3. Sometimes I got netbook that has an SDcard as HDA is it compatible 
with it ?


Sure, but as David said, maybe not optimized yet.

  
4. I think Lubuntu will be great for creating server from old PC's with 
GUI interface instead having console at from your nose and doing that Vi 
thing.Maybe is there somebody can make a server edition. While 
installing you can choose what of kind of server do you want to install.


Well, I personally think that server with GUI is a bad idea, but it's
just personal opinion :)

  

5. And nice front-end for backup that can make image of the drives.
6. Do you guys think that thunderbird and firefox take of computer 
sources especially nower days there is allot of websites based on flash  
like  farmville it make even windows xp slow.


Firefox is still on Lubuntu, but maybe not for too long :)

  
7. What is the other syntax like dmesg and lsusb that I can use to get 
info out of my toys and to send to you guys.


lspci or a graphical tool like hardinfo

  
8. Last thing that I want to say is.. I am sorry for starting asking 
allot of questions even the alpha  is not out yet...


It's very good to have feedback from user :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


  


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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Fwd: Re: Colourchange?]

2010-02-17 Thread josef A. Beroeatwarin

Hi all Lubuntu geeks or whatever :-)

So its sound like  we are so close with the release of Lubuntu. Green is 
nice and for the one that took time to make the green logo thank you...
I like to have a different colour... because kubuntu is blue, ubuntu is 
brown xubuntu is grey,wattos (ubuntu derived and using lxde) is green 
just like opensuse.
I like  to see purple with a combination with black or grey... I not a 
really a purple lover I am more of green or blue but... I what to see 
something different with a own status of colour and with the the logo of 
ubuntu as sign where we come from
So guys what do you think of purple with black, grey maybe metalic, 
ofcourse its sound heavy but its still runs light...







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+1 4 Blue.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com 
mailto:syl...@gmail.com wrote:


   I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there
   are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues
   everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is
   possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be
   really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of
   green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with
   other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but
   that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too,
   or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in
   one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents.
   what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just
   green. but decision is up to whole community ;)

   2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
   mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
 look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There
   are so many
 ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than
   blue, the
 artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos.  just
   look at the
 attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas.

 2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com mailto:syl...@gmail.com

 I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and
   metallic
 LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even
 further for a nice result?


 2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
   mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com:
  i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them
 
  2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com
   mailto:gbiz...@gmail.com
 
  Can we see some quick concepts?
 
  Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)
 
  GB
 
  On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz
   jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com mailto:jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
   hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good
   idea today:
   what
   about a change from blue to green? we would have to change
   all the
   wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it
   would be
   worth
   the
   time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
   shouldn't we
   try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone
   Distribution - we
   don't
   have
   to take the same colours as the other official
   ubuntu-derivates. The
   colour
   green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less
   resources,
   how
   jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
   So what do you think, guys?
  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-17 Thread josef A. Beroeatwarin

Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that wicd.
I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the latest 
kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because in 
Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have 
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating packages 
or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:

2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com mailto:syl...@gmail.com

1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)


1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't 
good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.


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