Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Year's Resolution

2010-12-30 Thread Bob Trevithick
 This message was supposed to go to list,
 Leszek, please click on Reply to all  so the list is on the To,
 otherwise gmail  will send it  to the person email only not the list.
 The Reply problem, happens to me in the past, I'm on gmail too.
 :)
 Leo

Gmail has an option, under the Labs menu depicted by the bottle of
green stuff g to default to reply to all.  I've never been sure if
that's a good thing, mind you.  But it's there if you want it. :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
Well, I had my little rant about this and I've gotten it out of my system. :-)

I had heard lots of people on the forums saying it was difficult to
remove, and that the best thing was to just turn off splash.  Looking
at what would be removed along with removal of Plymouth tended to
support the idea that virtually everything depended on it.

It isn't a huge deal, I guess, but doesn't make a good first
impression when I show my system to friends.  I'll try the vga= trick.
 Thanks.

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
 Am 02.10.2010 03:33, schrieb Bob Trevithick:
 I really hope that it can be removed from the system, or it can be turned 
 off in a sane way.
 BTW, in the past usplash always work on my box, but plymouth is really 
 problematic.

 I'm over my head here, but I've heard others say that this thing is
 like a cancer that has metathesized throughout the entire system.
 That the dependencies make it almost impossible to remove.

 Thats not true. I debugged the plymouth package in Debian for my latest
 release of ZevenOS-Neptune and I can say, it works very fine with free
 software drivers. With proprietary Softwaredrivers you need to attact
 vga=792 or another high resolution highcolor mode for it to work.
 Crashes of plymouth should not affect booting.
 Deleting it is no problem.
 I sincerely hope this isn't true.

 I booted some system the other day, I forget what it was, and it just
 printed the text Booting, please wait..

 What a joy that was.  It looked so professional compared to the mess
 we've been seeing for so long now.

 /rant  :-)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-01 Thread Bob Trevithick
 I really hope that it can be removed from the system, or it can be turned off 
 in a sane way.
 BTW, in the past usplash always work on my box, but plymouth is really 
 problematic.

I'm over my head here, but I've heard others say that this thing is
like a cancer that has metathesized throughout the entire system.
That the dependencies make it almost impossible to remove.

I sincerely hope this isn't true.

I booted some system the other day, I forget what it was, and it just
printed the text Booting, please wait..

What a joy that was.  It looked so professional compared to the mess
we've been seeing for so long now.

/rant  :-)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Bob Trevithick
 Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the current
 Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the Menu, add a
 couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I need, and I should
 look at remastering the ISO from the customized, running USB key.

I'm quite a bit over my head here, compared to the others, but if
you're running on a read/write USB device, why can't you add and
remove packages like you normally would on any other disk?   Just a
thought. :)

Regards,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Control Center

2010-09-05 Thread Bob Trevithick
Wow, Leszek.  That's beautiful work!

I'm off on a motorcycle trip, but will get home late tomorrow and then
can grab the new beta and start to play. :-)

Bob

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
 I know there was something in the work but here is now my version of a
 Lubuntu Control Center for Lubuntu 10.10 and Lubuntu 10.04 (it should work
 fine there too).
 It is a simple GUI starting the configuration tools that already ship with
 Lubuntu (except for LXProxy, which needs to be downloaded seperately).

 Here a small screenshot:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/38932...@n00/4960072883/

 Download (deb) : http://www.mediafire.com/?4qnt9iebg8tgpgb

 Feedback is welcome ;)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Incorrect password when using Synaptic Package Manager

2010-08-17 Thread Bob Trevithick
Hi Hung,

Have you tried it from your normal user account, rather than root?
Just select Synaptic from the {references menu, and use your normal
*user* password, not the root password.  The first user created during
install has privileges to use the sudo/gksudo commands, and the
default is for there to be no root account password at all.

Hope this helps,
Bob

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Duy Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all!
 I can't use Synaptic Package Manager in Lubuntu 10.10 alpha 3.
 It always says I provide wrong root password but I'm sure it's correct, I
 type carefully, my password is very simple and I can log in as root in
 terminal with this password.
 I need some help. Thanks!
 Regards,
 Hung
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxinput

2010-08-16 Thread Bob Trevithick
Thanks much!

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try the latest release lxinput 0.3. This should have been fixed.

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Bob Trevithick
 bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've started developing Carpal Tunnel in my mouse hand, so have
 switched hands.  Lxinput lets me change the mouse button for
 left-handed use, but it doesn't stick.  On every reboot it needs to be
 set again.  Any easy fixes for this?  Thanks, Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 3

2010-08-07 Thread Bob Trevithick
Hi Julien,

 == Testing needed ==
 We'll appreciate some feedbacks about the followings recent additions :
 - The slideshow, especially the text, to be able to start translation.

I made notes quickly as the (very attractive) slideshow went by.  Here
are the things I noticed.  Remember, I don't speak English; I'm an
American. :-)

- Speaking of Chromium, the word developed is mis-spelled, with two ps.

- The phrase more informations showed up.  The word information is
always singular.  Some information.  Lots of information.  Many pieces
of information.  Etc. :)

- The phrase fast videos player showed up.  The video here should
be singular in this case.  The program is fast at playing videos,
which makes it a fast video player.

- Inconsistent use of periods at the end of sentences.  Some pages
have them, others don't.  Looking at a regular Ubuntu install, they
use the periods always.

Hope this helps.  If I could look at the text while it's not moving
past, I could maybe do a better job.  Where does one find the text of
the slideshow?  And if there is any other text which you'd like
proofed, let me know.

American English is one crazy language.  It still boggles my mind that
the words flammable and inflammable both mean exactly the same
thing! :-)

Regards,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 3

2010-08-07 Thread Bob Trevithick
 Code is available here :
 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gilir/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/lubuntu
 The slides are under slideshows/lubuntu/slides

Okay, a few more little suggestions for you:

==/==

abiword-gnumeric.html

Change: a lightweight alternative for OpenOffice.

To: lightweight alternatives to OpenOffice.

Change: documents like spreadsheet and letters.

To: documents like spreadsheets and letters.

==/==

gnome-mplayer.html

Change: Supports for many formats are included.

To: Support for many formats is included.

==/==

pidgin.html

Change: connect to many Instant Messages services,

To: connect to many Instant Message services,

==/==

sylpheed.html

Change: It will allow you to check your mail, and read them if you are offline.

To: It will allow you to check your email messages, and read them even
if you are offline.

==/==

synaptic.html

Change: all the softwares included.

To: all the software included.

==/==

Thanks for the explanation of the French root of inflammable.  Makes
sense now. :-)

Best,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 3

2010-08-06 Thread Bob Trevithick
 Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt

oops.  alpha-3 isn't on the md5sum list yet.  What's it supposed to be? :-)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to Get Informative Boot/Install

2010-08-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
Hi Lane,

Pick the option (I forget which key.. F4? F6?) at the grub menu, and select
nomodeset to add to the boot options.  That's what worked for me and many
others.

Regards,
Bob

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 I downloaded, burned, and booted the new Alpha2, but it died along the way
 with a black screen. No error messages preceded its death. Is there a
 boot/install option that will spew those progress messages across the screen
 so I may have a clue about the cause of death?

 Lane
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to Get Informative Boot/Install

2010-08-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
Whoops, I meant at the CD boot menu.  Once it's installed, this nomodeset
also needs to be added to the grub menu for subsequent boots.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lane,

 Pick the option (I forget which key.. F4? F6?) at the grub menu, and select
 nomodeset to add to the boot options.  That's what worked for me and many
 others.

 Regards,
 Bob

 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote:

 I downloaded, burned, and booted the new Alpha2, but it died along the way
 with a black screen. No error messages preceded its death. Is there a
 boot/install option that will spew those progress messages across the screen
 so I may have a clue about the cause of death?

 Lane
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How to Get Informative Boot/Install

2010-08-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
 andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Did you MD5 test the ISO?


 No, but I just did, and it's correct.


 Did you burn as SLOWLY as you could?


 Yes, 8.


 Have you checked the CD for defects?


 No, don't know how. How does one do that?


 Have you tested your RAM for errors?


 No, because I often install new distros, and I recently installed the
 Ubuntu Minimal CD Alpha 2 without difficulty.

 OTOH, my fairly new motherboard has an nVidia chipset, which sometimes
 causes problems.

 Lane




 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.comwrote:

 Thanks, Andrew. When the nomodeset didn't work, I tried that post's
 second option:
 i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa
 but it stopped at the same place, although with a small font.

 Lane


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How can I lock screen in Lubuntu?

2010-08-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
Would it be possible to go one more step and have the screensaver and
lock able to kick in when it's sitting at the login screen?  Here we
often log out and walk away, and the next person who wants to use it
logs in.  If nobody does, I'd like it to go into screen save - lock
- monitor standby modes, the way Ubuntu (gdm I presume) does.  Is
that something enough people would care about to make it worth it?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Le mardi 03 août 2010 à 03:32 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 For locking the screen, is it acceptable to add options to lxsession
 to execute some commands prior to suspend/hibernation? So we can
 execute the locking command of either xscreensaver or
 gnome-screen-saver, or others according to the settings?

 Is this an acceptable option?

 Yes. Also, maybe an auto-mode, detecting which screensaver is running
 and use it, would be nice.

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 2.6.35-8 kernel won't start X?

2010-07-23 Thread Bob Trevithick
It changed for me.  35-7 was fine.  35-8 wouldn't boot.  35-9 was fine
again.  Now 35-10 won't boot.  Wish I could nail this down.  I can't
get into my Lubuntu install at all, at least not without using the
recovery interface.  And I'm not sure what to try to fix once I do get
in. The joys of alphas. :-)

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Michał Ćwikliński e...@pixelate.pl wrote:
 There is a new version of kernel, but nothing changed
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/605885/comments/9

 W dniu 21.07.2010 09:08, Michał Ćwikliński pisze:

 The bug was reported - http://launchpad.net/bugs/605885

 W dniu 15.07.2010 18:29, Bob Trevithick pisze:

 Please disregard this post.. it appears to *not* be specific to
 Lubuntu.  Many of the alpha testers are having problems with 35-7
 regardless of their flavor of 'buntu.  Oddly, I had no problems until
 35-8, but now 35-7 is acting up as well.  The joys of pre-beta. :-)

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Bob Trevithick
 bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anybody else having problems with the latest kernel update?  It's
 working fine for Ubuntu, but Lubuntu hangs just before one would
 expect X to start up and the login screen to appear.

 Doing Ctrl-Alt-F2 will get a console, but it only stays around for a
 few seconds and then we're returned to the hung screen.  Repeatedly
 returning to the F2 console let's me continue typing where I left off,
 so it's possible to eventually log in and issue a sudo reboot to get
 out.

 I'm running the 35-7 kernel now to type this.

 I have the nvidia-current driver, which may or may not be relevant.

 Thanks for any feedback.

 Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 2.6.35-8 kernel won't start X?

2010-07-19 Thread Bob Trevithick
How odd.  I was just celebrating the fact that the new 35-9 kernel had
*solved* the problem for me.  To boot Maverick Ubuntu (gnome), I have
to edit my grub menu, but to boot Maverick Lubuntu I now need to do
nothing special.  If I can provide any specific details that might
help, please let me know.  -Bob

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Michał Ćwikliński
mcwiklin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have the same situation, even for newest kernel 2.6.35-9.
 Any help?

 W dniu 15.07.2010 16:04, Bob Trevithick pisze:

 Anybody else having problems with the latest kernel update?  It's
 working fine for Ubuntu, but Lubuntu hangs just before one would
 expect X to start up and the login screen to appear.

 Doing Ctrl-Alt-F2 will get a console, but it only stays around for a
 few seconds and then we're returned to the hung screen.  Repeatedly
 returning to the F2 console let's me continue typing where I left off,
 so it's possible to eventually log in and issue a sudo reboot to get
 out.

 I'm running the 35-7 kernel now to type this.

 I have the nvidia-current driver, which may or may not be relevant.

 Thanks for any feedback.

 Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 2.6.35-8 kernel won't start X?

2010-07-15 Thread Bob Trevithick
Please disregard this post.. it appears to *not* be specific to
Lubuntu.  Many of the alpha testers are having problems with 35-7
regardless of their flavor of 'buntu.  Oddly, I had no problems until
35-8, but now 35-7 is acting up as well.  The joys of pre-beta. :-)

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Bob Trevithick
bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anybody else having problems with the latest kernel update?  It's
 working fine for Ubuntu, but Lubuntu hangs just before one would
 expect X to start up and the login screen to appear.

 Doing Ctrl-Alt-F2 will get a console, but it only stays around for a
 few seconds and then we're returned to the hung screen.  Repeatedly
 returning to the F2 console let's me continue typing where I left off,
 so it's possible to eventually log in and issue a sudo reboot to get
 out.

 I'm running the 35-7 kernel now to type this.

 I have the nvidia-current driver, which may or may not be relevant.

 Thanks for any feedback.

 Bob


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 2.6.35-8 kernel won't start X?

2010-07-15 Thread Bob Trevithick
It's all too confusing for my little brain.  In this thread, below,
people are finding solutions in some GRUB settings:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1530657

I found that their GRUB solution worked for Ubuntu (gnome version of
Maverick alpha) but not for the Lubuntu version.  All that I can do to
boot Lubuntu is select the 35-7 kernel.

Not sure what conclusions to draw at this point.

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Please disregard this post.. it appears to *not* be specific to
 Lubuntu.  Many of the alpha testers are having problems with 35-7
 regardless of their flavor of 'buntu.  Oddly, I had no problems until
 35-8, but now 35-7 is acting up as well.  The joys of pre-beta. :-)

 Kernel 35-8 is working OK for me with nvidia-current, but this is on an 
 install of Ubuntu Minimal CD. I'll download Lubuntu and see how that 
 installs... if I can find the link for the latest.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Alpha2] Is it just me or the keyring for Lubuntu PPA is missing?

2010-07-06 Thread Bob Trevithick
I think that's the same problem I have.  I did the install, tried to
do an update, and got yelled at about repository keys not being
present. :)

If anyone needs more info, including exact error messages, please let me know.

Regards,
Bob

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Jaeic Lee zerax...@gmail.com wrote:
 I installed the Alpha 2 version of Lubuntu Maverick, installation went fine
 (aside from being unable to auto-mount encrypted volume, which is another
 matter that I should have investigated more...).
 But updating the package list didn't not go so well.
 Because...
 1) The authentication key for Lubuntu PPA was missing.
 2) The address for Lubuntu PPA gave me a 404 error.
 I had to find the Lubuntu PPA in Google, remove the old address to Lubuntu
 PPA then add it again so that it would download the key and the address
 properly.
 Did anyone else had to do this to update their Lubuntu related packages? or
 is it a problem that only I have experienced?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-05 Thread Bob Trevithick
Hi Phill,

Yes, the md5sum of the Maverick alpha-2 CD I burned checks out
correctly using that approach.  Sorry, need more coffee or something.
:)

Bob

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hi Bob,
 you can use md5sum from the command line to check the downloaded iso. If
 you're a bit rusty on the
 command http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 has the 10.04
 version, just change the file name.
 To check the CD you'd need to know the size of the iso file (I haven't
 downloaded it yet) and divide it by 2048, that would then be the figure for
 count in the dd check
 For the 10.04 release, the filesize is 546285568 and 546285568 / 2048 =
 266741 so the command is.
 dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
 It is all covered in detail
 at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM The reason for using the
 block size of 2048 is that it makes the checking of the cd much faster than
 using a block-size of one (try it some time !!), that document also explains
 why you cannot just do md5sum /dev/cdrom.

 Regards,
 Phill.

 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Phill,

 The ISO I'm using is the one Julien pointed us to in this list.  The
 Maverick beta:

 Torrent:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha2.iso.torrent
 Download:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha2.iso
 Md5sum:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt

 Isn't that the one we're all working with at this point?  If not, then
 I'm more confused than I realized. :)

 Regards,
 Bob

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  Hi Bob,
  does the iso that you are using pass the md5?
  If you're using the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Download
  Lubuntu then I
  can ask as to how the iso burns to a usb with checking the md5.
  Regards,
  Phill.
 
  On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Bob Trevithick
  bob.trevith...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Okay, I'll try to wrap my head around the whole problem and see if I
  can write it up coherently.. after a bit of sleep. :)
 
  In the meantime, with the USB install, I have the same issues I noted
  in my opening post.. and looking at the USB stick I notice that the
  boot.cat file still has the wrong md5sum (if that's relevant.)  So, my
  initial post still stands if any of those things are of interest at
  the moment.
 
  Tomorrow I'll see precisely what it takes to overcome the dim display
  problem.  And I have to sort out wireless and a few other things.  Let
  me know, please, what would be most useful to you folks at this stage.
 
  Night,
  Bob
 
  On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
  wrote:
   Hi Bob,
   If the CD is not burned at 4X speed, it can cause horrors. In 9.10 I
   could
   burn at that rate, in 10.04 I cannot. As a part of these 'funnies'
   that
   happen, one of the tech guys told me that he could not burn at 4X in
   9.10
   but can do in 10.04 .
   I have learned to 'cheat' and use CD-RW's or DVD-RW's which keeps the
   burn
   speed down.
  
   Oh, and I've used brassero etc., it seems to be a kernel issue but
   one
   that
   is really hard to nail down.
   Regards,
   Phill.
   On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Bob Trevithick
   bob.trevith...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Sure, I can write up a version for Maverick, as soon as I understand
   what's actually happening with the whole process.  I mean, I took
   Andy's advice and made a bootable USB stick instead (much faster
   than
   the CD.. glad I learned about that) but I still don't know why the
   CD
   burn process is causing errors, etc.
  
   On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Phillip Whiteside
   phi...@phillw.net
   wrote:
Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using
a
different installation method then the check sum will be
different.
If you pop over to the
thread http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives
the
10.04
release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the
alphas, or
I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p
Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it
only
requires the md5 sum to check against.
Regards,
Phill.
   
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick
bob.trevith...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
method either, Phill.
   
b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
266741+0 records in
266741+0 records out
546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s
   
So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as
per
the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error
during
the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it
alerted
me to the burning

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
@Phill: Thanks.. the 95% bug I should have looked up!  If I can ever
burn a CD (see below) I'll try the install with ethernet unplugged. :)

@Andy: Okay, this is weird.  I did check the md5sum of the ISO I
downloaded, but I did *not* check the CD I burned.. and I should have.

I've now made three coasters, four counting the original one, and no
matter what system I use to burn the CD, the file boot.cat comes out
with the wrong md5.  It's the only error on the CD.  Neither Brasero
nor Xfburn can put this image on a CD without screwing up that one
file.  And neither one warns me of the error.  I wonder why it's
always the same file?

Anyway, my apologies.. I should have checked the CD as well as the
ISO, obviously!  There's something I won't forget to do ever again. :)
 Now if I can just get it to burn accurately, just once, I can start
over and hopefully things will work better.

Regards,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
method either, Phill.

b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
266741+0 records in
266741+0 records out
546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s

So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
me to the burning error.

Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)

I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
same thing I'm trying to do here, right?

Thanks!

Regards,
Bob

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Yep, I was using the slowest speeds available.  I've now installed
unetbootin and am creating a USB to boot this from.  With any luck...
:-)

I'll let you know how I make out.

Thanks for the assist!

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Andrew Woodhead
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Burn as SLOWLY as you are allowed. Even 1x if you can. It will give a better
 image on the CD and will reduce errors by jitter and such. Using a USB
 device alleviates the need for moving CDs and such (assuming you can boot
 USB). If not definately burn slow, try another brand if you still get issues
 and try not to use CDRWs.
 -Andy

 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 @Phill: Thanks.. the 95% bug I should have looked up!  If I can ever
 burn a CD (see below) I'll try the install with ethernet unplugged. :)

 @Andy: Okay, this is weird.  I did check the md5sum of the ISO I
 downloaded, but I did *not* check the CD I burned.. and I should have.

 I've now made three coasters, four counting the original one, and no
 matter what system I use to burn the CD, the file boot.cat comes out
 with the wrong md5.  It's the only error on the CD.  Neither Brasero
 nor Xfburn can put this image on a CD without screwing up that one
 file.  And neither one warns me of the error.  I wonder why it's
 always the same file?

 Anyway, my apologies.. I should have checked the CD as well as the
 ISO, obviously!  There's something I won't forget to do ever again. :)
  Now if I can just get it to burn accurately, just once, I can start
 over and hopefully things will work better.

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Sure, I can write up a version for Maverick, as soon as I understand
what's actually happening with the whole process.  I mean, I took
Andy's advice and made a bootable USB stick instead (much faster than
the CD.. glad I learned about that) but I still don't know why the CD
burn process is causing errors, etc.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using a
 different installation method then the check sum will be different.
 If you pop over to the
 thread http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives the 10.04
 release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the alphas, or
 I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p
 Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it only
 requires the md5 sum to check against.
 Regards,
 Phill.

 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
 method either, Phill.

 b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
 0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
 266741+0 records in
 266741+0 records out
 546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s

 So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
 the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
 the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
 me to the burning error.

 Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
 different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
 Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)

 I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
 then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
 same thing I'm trying to do here, right?

 Thanks!

 Regards,
 Bob

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Okay, I'll try to wrap my head around the whole problem and see if I
can write it up coherently.. after a bit of sleep. :)

In the meantime, with the USB install, I have the same issues I noted
in my opening post.. and looking at the USB stick I notice that the
boot.cat file still has the wrong md5sum (if that's relevant.)  So, my
initial post still stands if any of those things are of interest at
the moment.

Tomorrow I'll see precisely what it takes to overcome the dim display
problem.  And I have to sort out wireless and a few other things.  Let
me know, please, what would be most useful to you folks at this stage.

Night,
Bob

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hi Bob,
 If the CD is not burned at 4X speed, it can cause horrors. In 9.10 I could
 burn at that rate, in 10.04 I cannot. As a part of these 'funnies' that
 happen, one of the tech guys told me that he could not burn at 4X in 9.10
 but can do in 10.04 .
 I have learned to 'cheat' and use CD-RW's or DVD-RW's which keeps the burn
 speed down.

 Oh, and I've used brassero etc., it seems to be a kernel issue but one that
 is really hard to nail down.
 Regards,
 Phill.
 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sure, I can write up a version for Maverick, as soon as I understand
 what's actually happening with the whole process.  I mean, I took
 Andy's advice and made a bootable USB stick instead (much faster than
 the CD.. glad I learned about that) but I still don't know why the CD
 burn process is causing errors, etc.

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using a
  different installation method then the check sum will be different.
  If you pop over to the
  thread http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives the
  10.04
  release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the
  alphas, or
  I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p
  Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it only
  requires the md5 sum to check against.
  Regards,
  Phill.
 
  On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick
  bob.trevith...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
  method either, Phill.
 
  b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
  0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
  266741+0 records in
  266741+0 records out
  546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s
 
  So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
  the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
  the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
  me to the burning error.
 
  Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
  different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
  Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)
 
  I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
  then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
  same thing I'm trying to do here, right?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Regards,
  Bob
 
  On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
  wrote:
   dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium Flash

2010-06-28 Thread Bob Trevithick
If for some reason Chromium doesn't pick up the copy of the plugin in
the mozilla directory, maybe making a symbolic link would be a better
option?  That way any updates would automatically be applied to
Chromium's version, and there's less disk wasted?  --Bob

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:17 +0100
 Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Just copy it to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins

 And run chromium-browser with --enable-plugins. (Unless I'm outdated
 and it's enabled by default now).

 --
 Kind regards,
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Multi-core, frequency scaling, etc.

2010-06-22 Thread Bob Trevithick
I thought I should break this out of the first thread, which was
becoming confusing with multiple topics.

Phill wrote:

 I don't have a dual core, can you have a look through the instructions, feel 
 free to post it up as Dual Core work in progress on the baby area and leave 
 a note on it to say you're still working on it. As I do not have dual core, I 
 can not give any input at all. I'm sure Adam will be happy to chat with you 
 over it.

Um, I'd be glad to, except I'm not clear that this has anything to do
with how many cores one has.  It's a CPU frequency-scaling issue.
Were there any single-core processors which had frequency-scaling?
Maybe, I don't know.

I'm also unclear if there's any problem.  All indications I've seen is
that frequency-scaling is working fine, and over-heating problems must
be due to something else.  Have I missed something?  I freely admit
that I sometimes don't read as carefully as I should. :)

Best,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Changing PDF viewer by default

2010-06-20 Thread Bob Trevithick
Might we want to consider going to Google Docs for some of these
things like PDF, Word Processing, Spreadsheet, and so on?  I don't see
any good candidates for PDF aside from the ones already mentioned.
There simply aren't very many out there, it would seem.

Evince would get my vote.

Have we a good idea of what the minimum computer requirements should
be for Lubuntu?  That would help in making some of these decisions.
Personally, I don't think there are many people out there with 256K
machines anymore.  I would expect the low-end machines to be the ones
that were mainstream 3-5 years ago.. so figure at least 1 GHz and 1G
of memory.  But maybe I'm all wet. :)

Regards,
Bob

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Boot problems with latest kernels

2010-06-18 Thread Bob Trevithick
Whoops.  I accidentally just replied to Goh instead of to the list.
Sorry.  -Bob


-- Forwarded message --
From: Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with latest kernels
To: Goh Lip g@gmx.com


Hi Goh,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I'll try purging VLC and see what
happens.  At the moment, I have 2.6.35-2-generic installed, and
Synaptic lists this kernel as Local or Obsolete but doesn't offer me
the newer kernels with either an upgrade or a dist-upgrade.  Maybe
that will change when VLC is removed.  As I recall, it wasn't during
installation of the kernels that VLC was removed.  In fact, if it's of
any interest, here's the log of the update during which it removed
VLC:

Commit Log for Thu Jun 17 08:38:55 2010

Removed the following packages:
gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
libavformat52
libmjpegtools-1.9
libpostproc51
libquicktime1
libswscale0
mozilla-plugin-vlc
vlc
vlc-nox

Upgraded the following packages:
gtk2-engines-pixbuf (2.21.2-0ubuntu2) to 2.21.2-0ubuntu3
libavcodec-extra-52 (4:0.6~svn20100505-1ubuntu5) to 4:0.6-1ubuntu1
libavutil-extra-50 (4:0.6~svn20100505-1ubuntu5) to 4:0.6-1ubuntu1
libgail18 (2.21.2-0ubuntu2) to 2.21.2-0ubuntu3
libgtk2.0-0 (2.21.2-0ubuntu2) to 2.21.2-0ubuntu3
libgtk2.0-bin (2.21.2-0ubuntu2) to 2.21.2-0ubuntu3
libgtk2.0-common (2.21.2-0ubuntu2) to 2.21.2-0ubuntu3
libsane (1.0.20-13ubuntu2) to 1.0.21-2ubuntu1

Installed the following packages:
libva1 (1.0.1-3)
libvpx0 (0.9.0-6)

Thanks again!
Bob


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 04:53:18 +0800, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:45:34 -0400
 Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm.  That thread, which I had read yesterday, said that the problem
 was with 0.96.1ubuntu3, and that the fixed version is 0.96.1ubuntu4
 which is the one I now have installed.  The thread also notes that
 this only applies to the AMD64 version, which I'm *not* using.

 Ah! I saw the AMD CPU and assumed thatwas the problem.  Didn’t realise it
 only affedted  the 64 bit version.

 I have all the latest updates, unless I should have proposed enabled.

 There won’t be anything in the proposed repository untill Maverick is
 released.

 Just to be clear, your suggestion would be to start over with a clean
 installation of the alpha-1 Lubuntu?

 No, what I suggest is that you remove the 2.6.35-4 and 2.6.35-3
 kernel-images then do an upgrade or maybe a dist-upgrade.

 Sorry to be a nuisance about this.  Just trying to help out. :)

 Regards,
 Bob



 Bob, not sure if this helps, but from my experience with (Kubuntu) alphas,
 some packages are disabled upon installation. This is probably due to
 clash of dependencies. After installation, reinstallation of the said
 packages *might* proceed and encounter no other problem. However, in most
 cases the reinstalled media player will not play smoothly. In my case,
 Kaffeine will 'play nice' only at final release, not even at beta stages.

 So, in your case, it might help if you remove, preferably purge vlc and
 see if the new kernels are booted okay. Then reinstall vlc and see if that
 works.

 Again, there is this usual warning that pre-final releases are not meant
 for 'production', likely to break and is mainly for people to help debug
 and report issues.

 Also, I am treating Lubuntu in its original intent, namely, as a lean and
 mean system, so I did not install other 'weighty' packages to it. I have
 also found another pleasant unintended use of Lubuntu on the usb stick.
 With gparted and testdisk installed, it makes a much better alternative to
 troubleshooting and repairing systems than carrying cd's of grub-rescue,
 gparted, livecd and so on. Impressive...

 Good luck, Bob.
 Regards - Goh Lip

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with latest kernels

2010-06-17 Thread Bob Trevithick
 I take it you are using 10.10

Right.

 I believe there were some problems with the kernel and AND CPUs. You may have 
 to remove/purge the offending kernels and reinstall.

Thanks Steve.  I'll try that.  Since I can still boot with the -2
kernel, is it possible/likely that just waiting will work?  I can't
see why a new install wouldn't pull in the same problem kernels,
except this time I wouldn't have the -2 version to fall back on?

Regards,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Trevithick
It works fine here with that one exception of having to use
nomodeset to get it to boot.

Well, I should qualify this with, I installed it last night around
2am, used it for an hour or so, and then went to sleep. :)  This
morning I'm cleaning it up, customizing it to be my main distro unless
something unforeseen happens.  But it's an alpha.. so what could go
wrong? :)

Thanks folks.. this is really nice!  I'm using it as I type this.

Let me know if I can do anything to assist with diagnosis of the iso...

Regards,
Bob

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:29 +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 Hi,

 I just generated the first alpha of Lubuntu Maverick. Like other Alpha
 1, you should be aware of those warnings :

 Pre-releases of Maverick are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a
 stable
 system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
 frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
 and
 those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

 We are still very early in the development, so don't expect many
 improvements and too much stability.

 For new stuff, there is a sync process with Debian packages, and updates
 of the core Ubuntu packages. For now, nothing really new for Lubuntu
 specific.

 How to report bugs :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs

 Torrent:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso.torrent
 Download:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso
 Md5sum:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 Anybody able to get the ISO to work


 --
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Trevithick
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Bob Trevithick 
 bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 It works fine here with that one exception of having to use
 nomodeset to get it to boot.


 Exactly how do you use that?

 Lane

Hi Lane,

When booting the CD, hit the F6 key.  The nomodeset option is second from
the bottom.  Then, once installed, I needed to add the option to
/etc/default/grub.

Regards,
Bob
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 1?

2010-06-11 Thread Bob Trevithick
Perhaps we could all chip in on a Julien Cam so we can all watch him
at the keyboard?  No pressure. :-)

Bob

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hi Julien,
 I'm eagerly awaiting it, hoping you have sorted out the 'show-stopper' bug.
 It has an area already reserved for it on my hard drive :-)
 Regards,
 Phill.

 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 10:41 -0400, Bob Trevithick a écrit :
  Is there a place (URL) where we can monitor the progress toward
  getting this new alpha1 of 10.10 Lubuntu ready?  It would sure be more
  fun than watching the ROV live feeds from the Gulf oil disaster. :-/

 Not really, but I'll try to do a release this week-end.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-06-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

 3. If a program runs well in 32-bit OS, but fail to run in 64-bit one,
 this is not an architecture problem. It's a bug. Please report it
 instead of complain of 64-bit.

One example I found when playing with the Mini CD 64-bit install is
that NetworkManager Applet 0.8 doesn't work correctly in 64-bit.  The
eth0 connection itself works, but the applet reports there are no
network connections at all.  It also doesn't display it's icon in the
panel, although right-clicking on the space where it should be shows
it's actually there.

I'm guessing this is the sort of thing you're referring to, and which
should be reported as a bug?

Thanks,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-06-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
Hi Phill,

Sorry this took so long!  I'm happy to report that doing the install
with the 64-bit Mini CD worked just fine.  I haven't had time to try
everything, of course, but I've found zero problems so far.

Just one note on the install instruction; one step is to do a sudo
apt-get dist-upgrade.  When I did this, it told me there were zero
packages to install.  Perhaps that step could be removed, or perhaps
it's needed only sometimes.

Anyway, looking good so far for 64-bit.  Let me know if there's
anything special you'd like me to try.

Regards,
Bob

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hi Bob,

 if you could try using the instructions at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install  Just go
 get the 64 bit instead of 32 bit mini-iso from
 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
 I'd be grateful if you could reply back with how you get on, I have been
 asked a couple of times about such a method but not had anyone say yes it
 does work (or no, it does not).

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead
 andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of
  stuff
  installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to
  be
  workable from command line too.

 Thanks.  Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to
 wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-06-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hi Bob,
 thanks for getting back, you are still the first one to confirm it works.
 The apt-get dist-upgrade could well be a bit of over-kill, but I'd rather it
 spend a few moments working out all is well in the world than miss it out
 and find out it is needed in certain circumstances :-)

Hi Phill,

My only concern about the dist-upgrade is that, well, somebody might
not *want* to do a distribution upgrade. :-)  They might inadvertently
do one because they think this one command is essential.  Or maybe I
just misunderstand the command myself?

I'm thinking that someone might be building their system based on
10.04, and 10.10 might be lurking and ready to pounce on them if they
issue this command?  Just thinking out loud. ;-)

Yes, it's a lovely distro!  I never boot anything else now.  I'm sure
I'm going to remove Ubuntu Gnome from my system, as it just sits there
now taking up space.  I really never go into it for anything.
Lubuntu, with a bit of idiosyncratic massaging on my part, is exactly
what I've been looking for.

Regards,
Bob

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[Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Trevithick
If I were to use the Ubuntu 64-bit Alternate CD, do just a command
line install, and then pull in the lubuntu-desktop package, would I
have a workable 64-bit Lubuntu?  It will be a few days before my AMD
system is up and running again, so I can't test this at the moment.

A related question would be if there is an official 64-bit version
planned?  All other *buntu versions have both 32- and 64-bit options,
so I would guess that would be an expectation of Canonical's for
inclusion?

Thanks, and regards,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Trevithick
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff
 installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be
 workable from command line too.

Thanks.  Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to
wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Trevithick
Hi Phill,

I'll be happy to just as soon as I get the 64-bit machine running
again. :)  I hope that's within a week or so.

Bob

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hi Bob,

 if you could try using the instructions at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install  Just go
 get the 64 bit instead of 32 bit mini-iso from
 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
 I'd be grateful if you could reply back with how you get on, I have been
 asked a couple of times about such a method but not had anyone say yes it
 does work (or no, it does not).

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead
 andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of
  stuff
  installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to
  be
  workable from command line too.

 Thanks.  Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to
 wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu application discussion for maverick

2010-05-13 Thread Bob Trevithick
VLC is all I ever use.  Choice is good, and with Lubuntu we seem to have
lots of choices.  I removed Abiword, Gnumeric, Chromium, Sylpheed, added
Google Chrome dev, Pan, and Vlc.  Doesn't really matter what the default
packages are as long as they can be removed, replaced, etc.  Just my $0.02.

2010/5/13 Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com

 I always use gnome-mplayer

 mplayer is one of the oldest and most respected players out there

 -Andy

 2010/5/13 神癒礁湖 · rafaellag...@gmail.com

 Well, LXMusic isi a good program, but remeber that it depends on libpango
 libraries and xmms2.  Have anyone tested listening music music with
 Gnome-MPlayer? It's perfect (reproduction lists, cover thumbnail, etc).


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[Lubuntu-desktop] What to look forward to?

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Trevithick
Is it likely that we'll be seeing a Lubuntu Alpha 1 coming out with
the rest of the 'buntu 10.10 Alpha releases?

I sure hope so.  Lubuntu is what I've spent a long time looking for.
I see it as an all-purpose distro.  I put it on my AMD dual-core 4G
desktop box, thinking it was just to play with it, and I've rarely
booted anything else since. :)

Can't wait to see how this unfolds.

Nice job, folks!

Bob

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