Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] precise artwork
This list is deprecated, please stop using it. With metta, Chris On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 21:38, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Rafael, So, we install the new one and then choose a theme we like? (Shhs, don't tell anyone - horror forbid we have a choice :P ) As ever Rafael, thanks for the hard work you and your small team put in. It is such an important element of the system. @ Julien - How soon to the staging PPA? thanks, Phill. On 27 January 2012 19:44, 神癒礁湖 rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: ** Hi, people: I have updated the artwork (again). I REALLY recommend you to replace your Ozone3 theme with this one (a lot of improvements solve several bugs). Also, the wallpaper is ready (after a selection process). Again no option for colour (sorry) for us and Xubuntu devs (also Kubuntu are slaved to its plasmoid style) due to Canonical restrictions. If you feel better, the new artwork package will include all previous Lubuntu themes and some walls by the Flickr community. Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Precise/Ozone As always, feedback is appreciated. Thanks. -- http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/http://www.lubuntu.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp b2.pngb1.pngb3.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxFind and LxScreenshot
There is still time; feature freeze is 16th of Februari. With metta, Chris On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 16:00, Stephen Smally eco.st...@fastwebnet.itwrote: Ok, i have a question, will LxFind and LxScreenshot will included in Lubuntu Precise? or the feature freeze is already gone? -- Lubuntu-users mailing list lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-usershttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxPanel's Menu conflics with keyboard shortcuts....
I think Alt + F10 maximizes, the other one I'd have to look up. Ctrl + Alt + arrow keys for switching desktops. With metta, Chris On Jan 17, 2012 2:21 PM, Axel FILMORE axel.film...@gmail.com wrote: Great, but how to minimise/maximise windows ? Another interesting Super key is Super+F1, Super+F2, this switches to desktop 1 or 2, if you have 2 desktops of course. On 17/01/2012 13:18, Leszek Lesner wrote: There is CTRL+ALT+D to start the filemanager and CTRL+ALT+T to start a terminal. -- Axel FILMORE __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC and Dependencies Talk
Hello everyone, Firstly the discussion at hand: the MAIN reason why LSC was created is because USC is VERY heavyweight. While still having a similar simplified interface for installing software, it boots a lot faster. Secondly is Synaptic not the most intuitive way to install software. Showing a lot of technical (libs etc) between some of the packages you might want to install, LSC solves this by only showing the packages one would want to install and with a preview readily available. So it's not a means to only show packages designed for Lubuntu afaik. Thirdly this is a mainly a discussion in how LSC *could* or *should* preform, not about the wiki. When you guys have made a decision on what should be put on the wiki, please cc the wiki list. I could have the wiki group make a page about installing software in Lubuntu, referring to packages that depend on libs not included by default and what the impact could be, but their might already be a page about that on the main wiki which we could refer to. ACTION WIKI: find a page on the wiki about installing software not aimed at a certain DE. E.g. installing ktouch inside Lubuntu, hopefully with system impact. If that page doesn't exists create one. Please reply if there isn't a page on the wiki before creating a new page. This is to keep me up-to-date. With metta, Chris P.S.: Ali, you used the old lubuntu list, which will be deprecated shortly. I've cc'd the new list. On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:36, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, Before I reply to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963postcount=252 I thought it's better to start such a discussion over here so that I understand better and we make it clear to everyone what is really going on. As far as I have learned so far and I could be wrong, the Dependencies Talk on a Low Resources System where usually Lubuntu is installed, is more about Space Issue than Loaded Files on RAM issue. I don't have a document or something that confirm that but I do know for sure that as long as nothing will be loaded in RAM, the performance won't be affected. I've come across MANY questions from users like: This app has lots of dependencies, can I install it on Lubuntu? will that slow my system down?? For me, I can easily reply that post saying: It's more about space issues than memory consuming issue + if you want, you can use the terminal for Synaptic. This is not necessarily true. Almost always, we add dependencies because the program needs them at runtime. Most of time, these deps, especially the libraries, will be loaded at runtime as well. The most important issue is how much RAM is needed by programs constantly running throughout the whole desktop session. (web browser, panel, file manager, desktop manager, session manager, other dbus services...) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Derivatives using the LightDM GTK+ greeter
This was just in. Might be interesting? -- Forwarded message -- From: Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com Date: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:19 Subject: Fwd: Derivatives using the LightDM GTK+ greeter To: Xubuntu Development Discussion xubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Original Message Subject: Derivatives using the LightDM GTK+ greeter Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:13:06 +0100 From: Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com robert.anc...@canonical.com To: Ubuntu Devel list ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Hi all, I just wanted to clarify some points regarding LightDM and the GTK+ greeter (lightdm-gtk-greeter package): - This greeter was always intended as an example greeter - It's being used as the default installed greeter for some derivatives - The GTK+ greeter is now an independent project from LightDM (http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/lightdm/2011-November/000190.html) I do not spend much time on this greeter other than confirming it still works with newer versions of the daemon, and have no plans to add new functionality. If derivatives want to use this greeter they are welcome to, but I suggest they will need to take maintainership of the project. Now it is a separate launchpad project (https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter) it is easy to give people permissions to this project. Anyone interested? --Robert -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug in Ubiquity.
Hello everyone, First of Happy New Year to everyone here. May all your dreams come true (or if you're like me, that you may find a dream to pursuit). Secondly I'll get more into the bugs I quickly reported on IRC. First of all there is the feature request of making a link to #lubuntu webchat page. It'll make it that much more easy to let new users find us. As we are having our own links to our wiki and launchpad I thought it wouldn't be that much trouble. Thirdly there is the real bug. As we've discussed things for development it was asked by myself if the quick-search of Synaptic could be activated, but Julien reported it broke down some of his systems. As such we've decided that users could decide for themselves if they wanted it enabled or not and put on the Release Notes of Oneiric [1] the steps to do so. However, ever a clean install on my brothers computer I was (happily) surprised that the quick-search was enabled by default after everything was finished (this included the first update round after installation). Seeing this wasn't part of how it should be, it is considered a bug. I hope this clears matters. With metta, Chris On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 06:38, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: I think, by complete accident what it may be by simply editing the text on links I went to alter one of my web-links to point to SII and it came out like this when parsed by the browser... Original link = http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners Standard from my wiki, I removed ubuntu-beginners and put on sii as such http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sii This is what it was reported back to me as. (01:10:21) phillwuk: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels= ( http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners)sii Once I was aware I pulled it Xpad and edited it and reposted it, it then worked fine... I think we just need to be aware of the editing of webchat links! Regards, Phill. On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi Boss, (14:39:13) MrChrisDruif: Make a link to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lubuntu in the screenshots with the installer, just like it links to the wiki and launchpad page (14:39:41) MrChrisDruif: And the bug is that the quick search is enabled again after installation (14:40:17) MrChrisDruif: Seeing we disabled it, it's a bug. (14:40:59) MrChrisDruif: phillw: ^ (14:42:25) phillw: it must pull in the additional lib function. I am guessing this needs filing against Ubiquity? Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person
Another +1 from me. Good luck boi! With metta, Chris On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 21:19, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.comwrote: +1, he knows his IRC stuff and is friendly. Cheers, James Gifford On Dec 25, 2011, at 14:31, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi gang, As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the teams back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow. A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2]. Those of you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join! Well, as they said in the Movie Blues Brothers... We're putting the band back together. It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things relating to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode. Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it is for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything 'happening' in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise any issues we, as a team, have. If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to say. A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope there are none. (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's) Regards, Phill. [1]https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unit193 [2]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
Hai Charlie (and the rest), I think something went wrong with your reply so I forwarded to everyone again. @Scott K: I think it's a problem with using a lot of terms side-by-side and mixing things up even. As you can see, the page [1] Ubuntu uses is called Derivatives. However on that same page the officially recognized once are suddenly called flavor. In my humble opinion it's a more friendly term to use, but we should get some (dare I say it?) Unity in our naming scheme. It might have been my mistake, because the information [2] given by Kate apparently also talked about Flavors. But it's important everyone knows what the correct term is/should be. I hope this clears up some of the mess (originally created to ask for help on getting links to the meeting minutes). With metta, Chris [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives [2] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/05/%23ubuntu-news.html starting from 18:15 -- Forwarded message -- From: Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.com Date: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 15:00 Subject: Re: New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section To: ubuntu-news ubuntu-news-t...@lists.ubuntu.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:15:42 -0500 Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative). These are other distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project. I think it's much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and Ubuntu Server. I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word is derivative correct. Scott K I have heard several times that the word derivative is incorrect when referring to these distributions based on Ubuntu. Why is it incorrect? According to the definition: derivative (comparative more derivative, superlative most derivative) 1. Imitative of the work of someone else. 2. (law, copyright law) Referring to a work, such as a translation or adaptation, based on another work that may be subject to copyright restrictions. Perhaps Kubuntu, having been developed alongside of Ubuntu is not a derivative, but the others are very much adapted or based on another work (Ubuntu). I can not any definition that excludes this adaption from being a derivative. Maybe an explanation of why this word is wrong is in order here? - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO3h/sAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAoQcH/1iu2OOYGolO4yniPNjKm/M0 TC0dBv+/RbKVO1XUxYRP1a88Rd/rpYwfbvDkejwi5XsP4ruLueeAzTvX18WFOKZS mFhNTjqrGC4I060NkwlDtv3C04Nt7SmQlhWsh6rPr+qdft5DbjPcj72s6i8QEv/0 AzXNvxGGExuQrr/4o1+D05u7c3joMZI6CyTsHz+JnuUpJ9yfZM3AeXjT17whv9QX EOz/mrR9SXrywJVEZZvzwNSToJtgudvAMC4HB+I2nL2BHmJk9e7VNoArRJt7E+k7 JeC4tlc0SWUeRh6pQJom2q9htsDiHynZHkmn8m5J/1RBztomYMLtmOVCzCMIkhw= =f0gD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-news-team mailing list ubuntu-news-t...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
Hello everyone, I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about the new section on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter. It's a section devoted to the development of the official derivatives of Ubuntu. For this we'd like to receive every week that you have a meeting, a link to the summary of the meeting. This is all to more acknowledgement of the hard work everyone in the derivatives branches are doing. If there are any questions, please ask them here or on #ubuntu-news. akgraner and me (MrChrisDruif) should be around to answer your questions. With metta, Chris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] libappmenu interferes with pcmanfm/libfm.
I assume that ubuntu_menuproxy is for the AppMenu (also known as GlobalMenu?). If that is the case then *I* don't see any problems with it disabled, as I don't think Lubuntu will get a globalmenu? But this is more for the devs to decide. With metta, Chris On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 05:16, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how it happens. While debugging some weird memory leaks of libfm, I found that it's caused by ubuntu menu proxy. Ubuntu app menu stuff injects a module into gtk so every gtk app will loads it. Then, it tries to export application menus via dbus. The implementation, however, has some unknown problems causing unnecessary references of objects inside our programs and this causes unresolved memory leaks. Doing export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= to turn off ubuntu menu proxy fixes all the problems. I'd suggest adding export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= in startlubuntu script since we don't need that and don't want the bugs brought by it. Further investigation is needed to see why it cause problems, but I don't have the time to do it. A test case is the demo program libfm-demo provided by libfm package. When menu proxy is active, libfm-demo never terminates and hangs on exit. Please turn menu proxy off for Lubuntu. Thanks. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu one - A suggestion.
Aren't we waiting for implementing Ubuntu One because of lacking plug-in system. That's what I'm remembering anyone. With metta, Chris On Nov 30, 2011 9:02 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: A suggestion from Peter. Does anyone know what the plans are for Ubuntu One and Lubuntu? I would like to see a client that can sync only when executed for Lubuntu. Seems like a good idea to me but, not sure how hard it would be it implement. Thoughts. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button
Does it give that window for asking what action you want to perform? With metta, Chris 2011/11/28 Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu, I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines: keybind key=XF86PowerOff action name=Execute commandlubuntu-logout/command /action /keybind Gabriel Salles 2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com Some users requested here: http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/ the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really removed? Does it have heavy dependencies? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button
Then I think we should change the lubuntu-rc.xml instead of installing a new app. If the functionality is already is available, then that should be the way I think. With metta, Chris On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am 28.11.2011 12:42, schrieb Chris: Does it give that window for asking what action you want to perform? Thats exactly what it does 2011/11/28 Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu, I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines: keybind key=XF86PowerOff action name=Execute commandlubuntu-logout/command /action /keybind Gabriel Salles 2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com Some users requested here: http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/ the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really removed? Does it have heavy dependencies? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How To Add Apps To Panel?
Aloha Swapnil, I've done a quick search with google and ended on the official lxde.orgwebsite. I've found this page [1] which is about the panel. Apparently there is a section about the launchbar (Plugin ( type = launchbar...etc). That is where you select which .desktop files you want to show. I don't know if this is also true for Lubuntu (should be, but can't check at the moment), but it should (as it's using lxde). I hope this answers your question. With metta, Chris [1] http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:24, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I am working on the review and everything about Lubuntu is positive and very encouraging. However, I problem is that Unity/Gnome 3 has spoiled me. (I don't like Global Menu and that's the reason I use Gnome 3 shell and not Unity). Its very easy to open an app, just hit Superkey and start typing the name. Or you can drag and drop item to the Favourite bar or Launcher. Under Lubuntu I failed to do that. When I added one more panel on the top to put all the often needed apps I can't drag and drop apps to the panel or to the AWN. Any suggestions? Many users will like it. -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktware**br Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/**109027644713767623413/postshttps://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo
Aloha b, First of all, it's not a newsletter, it's a mailing-list. It's not only a place for announcing the newest version of Lubuntu, it's a place for discussion. Secondly I agree with Raphael that the theme should be nigh prefect and consistent everywhere. That is one selling point of a distribution. With metta, Chris On Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM, b g graysoo...@gmail.com wrote: This newsletter has become full of things that are minor or even inconsequential to most of us. 2011/11/17 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com ** Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity, including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any), social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we must be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at design.canonical.com). All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit that design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and that's a big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to make the Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with not too much success, I must to say. -- [image: Go to rafaellaguna.com] http://lubuntublog.rafaellaguna.com [image: Go to Lubuntu.net] http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Freedom is not free. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp b3.pngb2.pngb1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time
Aloha Ali, Seeing the Fridge [1] or better put it's calender [2] already has it's 7 PM UTC slot filled did Julian suggest to take the 8 PM UTC (or GMT) slot. That would make it 12AM for you Ali. By the way, my vote is also for wednesday. With metta, Chris [1] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ [2] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 15:20, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting on the 23th. If that's 7:00pm GMT time, it means it's 11:00pm my time. My time is +4 GMT. If that's the case, I'm ok with that. I don't care about the day, all are the same to me, just the time what is important. Thanks! On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi, One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting on IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's needed. I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it less often in the future, if it's not necessary. Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and Internet connection :) I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after some time (like 3 months). I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting on the 23th. It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the schedule, so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this time. Let me know what you think about this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time
If we want the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting (which is preferred I think) then we should go an hour later. There is already a meeting every week from Unity Contributors Team Meeting. Check the Fridge to see which times are still available for #ubuntu-meeting. I think the time is pretty good, but that is for my time-zone. With metta, Chris On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:18, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote: Are we going to use #lubuntu(-offtopic) or #ubuntu-meeting? It will be better if we have it in #ubuntu-meeting. Time is great for me, cycling it aint bad idea either when thinking about people living on the other side of the planet, like asia or western side of the america. It will be better if we decide about cycling time after seeing the members present for the meeting Julien Lavergne kirjoitti 14.11.2011 9:43: Hi, I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it less often in the future, if it's not necessary. Exactly, we need topics atleast one day before the meeting so that each can come forward and out the opinions. -- Mohi My Site Ubuntu Beginners Team Member Join Us My Wiki ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Maybe it should be a bug/feature for ubiquity? Just an idea. With metta, Chris On Nov 10, 2011 5:37 PM, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:03:14 -0500 James King jlki...@gmail.com wrote: What are the chances of having an installer that gives you the choice to install either one? Maybe even add Midori to the mix? It doesn't matter to me either way: both are fast enough on my netbook and each continues to improve. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more? I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I mean, they should agree about that. EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep Lubuntu as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow Ubuntu's Steps. Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my own information. I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA. I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do some tests and send the report via mailing list? As many already mentioned, it's apt-get install and mission accomplished. IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk. I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you: 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list. 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to everyone. I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect is my motto :) Cya On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic: Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer. Isn't that the same ? I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM. I guess that is a low machine. If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish. Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep such personal opinions out of this discussion. If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good arguments. And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of both browsers. Google is dropping H264 support: http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html Google Chrome != Chromium Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so it's a bit harder to know what's really going on. At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one tab cannot crash the whole browser. While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help maintain Chromium). I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their existens. And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two free software products
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Bonjour Jean-Pierre, I don't know if this is correct, but I'm a little concerned for if the machines will support the test? We're talking about Pentium 3 4 and 256 to 512 ram. It's like Ali said, it's just a script which does some automated actions, like see what the CPU usage and MEM consumption. The idea for now is just shutting down all current processes of chromium-browser/firefox (or just checking if it's already running or completely shutting down) and starting a default set of tabs. That way the results should be comparable and doable for every machine. With metta, Chris P.S.: I still need to look into the performance test-suite of Tom's Hardware what that does exactly. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Aloha Benny, The command you are using isn't very accurate to only chromium-browser/firefox. You'd need to run it twice (before and during the test) to get a number on what chromium or ff is using. Therefor using a method the pulls in these numbers automatically by process id's or similar. @Walter: That kill -n command only kills the different processes or tabs in chromium (haven't tested it on ff yet), but not the window itself. Maybe something like killall chromium-browser will work, but we'd need to figure out if that is necessary? With metta, Chris On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 16:02, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote: Please use command 'free -m' to see RAM usage. The thing that interests you most is buffers/cache and used.Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset kirjoitti 8.11.2011 14:58: 2011/11/8 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Guys, I was wondering if someone has noticed that LXTask actually shows +100MB usage more than System Monitor and Conky so what is going on? I have System Monitor installed on Lubutnu 11.04 (was testing something) and Conky as well. While each of System Monitor (GNOME APP) and Conky are showing the same memory usage, LXTask add 100MB to that. Example: System Monitor + Conky shows 287MB while Firefox Loaded with two tabs. On the other hand, LXTask shows 387MB. Any idea? I have similar issue when lubuntu is installed alongside with ubuntu :/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Are those benchmarks from Tom's Hardware documented at all? Maybe we could rebuild those benchmarks for linux? When they are run on a low-spec machine then the results should be the same on other machines. User tests should be done to verify the results aren't just laboratory results. I might be interested to builds those benchmarks systems, but would need help with making them. With metta, Chris On Nov 6, 2011 8:45 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 11/05/2011 05:51 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: So far, I don't see advantages to switch to Firefox. Of course, if the benchmarks show a real difference, I may reconsider my opinion. Tom's Hardware regularly benchmarks browsers, but sadly only under Windows and OS X. The relevant page (Memory Efficiency) for a recent test is at: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-7-web-browser,3037-14.html If (and this is a big IF) these results are similar to those in Lubuntu on low-RAM machines, it might indeed be time to rethink use of Chromium. Does anyone on the list have the experience, willingness and time to run some documented and repeatable benchmarks of Chromium and FF7 under Lubuntu in low RAM machines for us? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
I was suggesting some kind of script, which could write the results in a log file. That way all the results will be the same on all machines and are objective. I will need some help in creating that script probably, but I'll be on IRC tomorrow and see what I can get bunged together. With metta, Chris On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 19:44, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question. Are we going to use some kind of tools/apps to do these tests? or we'll go for the manual approach? I mean just open LXTask and take the figures from there? I'm going to do a fresh install for Lubuntu 11.10, run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade, install Firefox and make sure both browsers are up-to-date then start some tests. We need to use the same tool/app for that. LXTask, Terminal, etc? Thanks! On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.comwrote: *Maybe chromium has some hidden resource usage not covered by the test? * To avoid this kind of doubt, I think it is better to make a new boot, open the Chromium Browser (with tabs and common pages), and see how much of CPU and RAM the *whole system* are using. Then you reboot and do the same thing with Firefox. This would be better with the alpha version of 12.04, and not with the final version of 11.10. Gabriel Salles ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Chromium-browser automatically checks for the latest version AFAIK. And the script should be able to retrieve the latest version from the respective vendor sites. If the installed version (also callable from the system) doesn't match the latest version, then the test will fail. With metta, Chris On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 20:41, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:02:45 -0500 Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Make sure you are doing your tests with a clean browser profile. An easy, safe way to do that is to create a new user and login to the new account. Also need to ensure everybody is using the same, and latest, versions of the browsers. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Ali, It's been mentioned that the new FF7 is lightweight again, that's why it's been brought up. Personally I don't like FF, so personally I'd vote Chromium. But if with benchmarks/user tests it's proven that FF is the better one, than we should consider switching. With metta, Chris On Nov 5, 2011 9:41 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Keep Chromium. Users, as always, can install Firefox whenever they want. Firefox is my no.1 browser but I must have them both. I run both of them at the same time (FF and Chromium). Let's keep in mind that Chromium is lighter than Firefox. After all, Lubuntu is a lightweight distribution so please keep it as it's :) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:47 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I can use Lubuntu for remaster?
As far as I know is everyone free to alter and redistribute any given distribution when all the proper people/teams are thanked. You can read all about it in the GPL(v3?) licence supplied with the installation disk. It should also be readable somewhere in the system, but I don't know where that can be found. With metta, Chris On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 17:56, jt joaoteixeira1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello for everyone team members of Lubuntu Launchpad channel. Im a developer of a little project called FlavituLinux. I have a question i think in Lubuntu to remaster for my next release. I can use Lubuntu base to remaster or no? Many thanks for the time. __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] - Lubuntu 12.04 on Ubuntu Forum - Suggestions
Hello A.J., In the history you can find who removed your content. If it was phillw or someone else well regarded from the team, then it wasn't confirm how we roll. With metta, Chris On Oct 31, 2011 6:00 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to know that ;) Consider it done :D By the way, I'm going to update our Wiki because there are many things I'd like to add. I've been working so hard lately on many guides/howtos and threads. I'd like to include that on our Wiki but the last time I added something, someone has removed it. Hope it will remain this time and no one remove it. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Thanks :) There is already valuable feedbacks :) Could you please add the 2 blueprints to the thread, so people will have of the information to participate ? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-lubuntu-p-optimizations https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-lubuntu-p-users-experience Thanks. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:02:13 +0400 Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone :) As always, here is another thread on Ubuntu Forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442 I didn't put my ideas yet but I'll do that very soon, hopefully. Thank you! -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] www.lxde.org is down!
Hi James (and the rest), At the time of the error I was already using OpenDNS and it wasn't able to find lxde.org at that time. However, today I does again. With metta, Chris P.S.: Love OpenDNS as well for speed and reliability, I would recommend it to others any day of the week. On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:38, James King jlki...@gmail.com wrote: When you get a DNS server failure, check to see that popular websites like Google.com and Yahoo.com load. If they don't load either, then the problem is probably on your end. You can always experiment by changing your Primary and Secondary DNS from automatic to either Google's DNS (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) or OpenDNS (208.67.220.220,208.67.222.222) and seeing if they work. I use OpenDNS and am very happy with the speed and reliability of it. It's free. (Google is free, too.) James King On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Looks like the server is up and running. I have NO idea what was wrong? Thanks! On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Yao Wei (魏銘廷) m...@lxde.org wrote: I can access to the website now. Could you confirm? On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Network Error (dns_server_failure) Thank you, -- Yao Wei -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fix horrible icons in guvcview
Aloha Stefano, To my knowledge only the compiler for python and genie care about indentation. In C and other languages the indentation is only for readability, but someone else has to review the code because I'm no programmer. With metta, Chris On Oct 23, 2011 10:41 AM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Hi, i've just fixed the horrible icons in guvcview, using gtk-themed images. you can find the patch in lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/guvcview-fix-pixmaps Regards Stephen Smally P.S. i don't know if is well fixed, since is C and i don't knoe C really well, also i've used 4 spaces instead tab, but as dar as i know the c compiler doesn't care of space identation -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 12.04
Done and done. Good luck with both sessions! With metta, Chris On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 00:28, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le 10/17/2011 11:34 PM, Julien Lavergne a écrit : Personally, I have 3 topics in mind, and I started to write some notes about them on a wiki page :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/P-Plan I registered 2 blueprints for discussion at the UDS, be sure to subscribe them to follow progress on them : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-lubuntu-p-optimizations https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-lubuntu-p-users-experience Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
A more ambiguous name will make it more adaptable for others. Something like Lightweight Software Center is indicative of it's nature without tying it unnecessarily to Lubuntu or LXDE for that matter. But that is just my 2c. With metta, Chris On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 22:31, ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a dev, but this sounds like a good idea and it embraces the spirit of open source programming. Tim -- Sent from my HP TouchPad ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
I didn't know the exact inner-workings of LSC, but with this explanation also a +1 from me. With metta, Chris On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 00:57, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: As ever, Julien, you give wise council. Again, as ever, you are minded the same as myself so your proposal gets a +1 from me. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit : I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join. LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install directory, which are Ubuntu specific. When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it. But for now, this will cause more trouble than good things. Regards, Julien Lavergne [1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Install only Lubuntu-desktop
Aloha Rob, Of course you can install lubuntu-control-center if that is the name known in the repositories. You seem to have a lot of small questions, maybe it is best if you drop by on the IRC channel. How to get on the right channel and with what kind of programs can be found here [1]. With metta, Chris [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs#IRC On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:17, mailboxes2002-elettro...@yahoo.it wrote: Hi I would like to install only Lubuntu-control-center, it possible? Thanks Regards - Original Message - From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com To: mailboxes2002-elettronic@**yahoo.itmailboxes2002-elettro...@yahoo.it Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Install only Lubuntu-desktop Aloha Rob, Which programs are you talking about? lubuntu-desktop *will* installed the programs marked as required/dependent. As far as I've heard from the head-dev is that there is also a lubuntu-core meta-package, which only installs lxde and a terminal if I remember correctly. I hope that answers your questions. With metta, Chris On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 16:11, mailboxes2002-elettronic@**yahoo.itmailboxes2002-elettro...@yahoo.it wrote: From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com To: mailboxes2002-elettronic@**ya**hoo.it http://yahoo.itmailboxes2002-* *elettro...@yahoo.it mailboxes2002-elettro...@yahoo.it Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launc**hpad.net http://launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@**lists.launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Install only Lubuntu-desktop Aloha mailboxes2002 (couldn't find your name anywhere =) ), What didn't function after those commands? Did you get any errors? Was it preformed on a normal desktop installation of Lucid? With metta, Chris Hi I try install Lucid with mini.iso. Finished install, with command line, try apt-get, bla bla bla, instruction below, but don't install only lubuntu-desktop, but also all programs. Why? :-) Many thanks Rob I try install only Lubuntu desktop, but not apps/program with Abiword, client mail and other program, on Lucid10.04. I try with apt-get: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo apt-get autoclean cd /var/cache/apt/archives but don't function What is? Thanks Regards __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop https://**launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-**desktophttps://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktop https://**launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttp://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop https://**launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop ** ** Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launch**pad.net http://launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launch**pad.net http://launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop https://**launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-**desktophttps://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktop https://**launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttp://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop https://**launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop ** ** More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.**launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp https://help.**launchpad.net/**ListHelphttp://launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.**launchpad.net/ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Feedback after Lubuntu live test
Aloha Theodor, Did you try Jean-Pierre's solution? Typing lxdm should do the trick apparently. If it doesn't then I don't know anything else and hope the better knowledgeable people will help you further. With metta, Chris On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 19:25, Theodor Zoller theodor.zol...@gospel.cdwrote: Dear Chris, thank you for your answer. I tryed it again and typed in the comand but nothing happened. I'm using Lubuntu 11.04. I got it just an view days ago from your homapage. So in my opinion I'm using the latest version. The only information I got ist: 11.04 kernel 2.6.38-8generic. If you need some other information, you've got to tell me the command to find them out. Theodor Am Freitag, den 15.07.2011, 11:37 +0200 schrieb Chris: Aloha Theodor, Which version did you try, alpha 1 of Oneiric? It has a known issue with that and you only need to command startlubuntu if I'm not mistaken. Irregardless if my solution worked, we'd like to know which version it was. That way the devs can better track the error. And if my solution worked, than also mention it in your reply. With metta, Chris On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 22:44, Theodor Zoller theodor.zol...@gospel.cd wrote: Dear LubuntuTeamers, today I want to offer You an short Feedback about my Test of Lubuntu. Unfortunately I have no sucsess in running the Live-CD on my ThinkPad Z61p and on my desktop. I always reached an commandline and wasn able to start X to reach the GUI. An selftest on the cd says thant everything is ok. Sorry, but I haven't got better news for you. But thank you for building Lubuntu! newbe ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wine 1.3 and other apps installed not showing up in menu
Maybe the others apps you've installed will appear when you log out + in. Just a suggestion. With metta, Chris On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 22:35, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.comwrote: For Wine at least, try this two things: - Open a .exe file with wine, Wine will configure itself and after that the submenu Wine should be there - If not, log out + lon in and the trick should be done 2011/7/16 Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com Hi, Using Lubuntu 11.04. Installed Wine 1.3 and it does not show up in the menu. Also installed Xfce Clipman and it does not show up too. What is the fix? Some installs (via Synaptic) show and some don't. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notification Daemon
Aloha Lee, I think it should be configurable per app. And maybe the notify-osd (if I remember correctly) is more to your liking. Afaik it doesn't tell you when a file is downloaded. Other then that I can't help. With metta, Chris On Jul 15, 2011 1:06 AM, Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com wrote: Hi, The notification daemon was telling me I was connected and telling me a file downloaded. Really annoying and I uninstalled it. This is why I want to use Lubuntu - so I can get away from unnecessary fluff that disturbs my work flow. But I noticed that the Gnome power manager depends on the notifications. I do want to know if my battery runs low though. I suggest a unique Lubuntu GUI that can give the user control over these notifications. I don't want things to be so dumbed-down that I need a popup to tell me I'm connected or a file downloaded... Thanks, Lee G. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Feedback after Lubuntu live test
Aloha Theodor, Which version did you try, alpha 1 of Oneiric? It has a known issue with that and you only need to command startlubuntu if I'm not mistaken. Irregardless if my solution worked, we'd like to know which version it was. That way the devs can better track the error. And if my solution worked, than also mention it in your reply. With metta, Chris On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 22:44, Theodor Zoller theodor.zol...@gospel.cdwrote: Dear LubuntuTeamers, today I want to offer You an short Feedback about my Test of Lubuntu. Unfortunately I have no sucsess in running the Live-CD on my ThinkPad Z61p and on my desktop. I always reached an commandline and wasn able to start X to reach the GUI. An selftest on the cd says thant everything is ok. Sorry, but I haven't got better news for you. But thank you for building Lubuntu! newbe ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Install only Lubuntu-desktop
Aloha mailboxes2002 (couldn't find your name anywhere =) ), What didn't function after those commands? Did you get any errors? Was it preformed on a normal desktop installation of Lucid? With metta, Chris On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 21:21, mailboxes2002-elettro...@yahoo.it wrote: Hi all I try install only Lubuntu desktop, but not apps/program with Abiword, client mail and other program, on Lucid10.04. I try with apt-get: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo apt-get autoclean cd /var/cache/apt/archives but don't function What is? Thanks Regards __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone
Aloha Rafael, I've talked to charlie-tca and the current theme is already pretty accessible, only side note was the contrast in the lettering in the window border (window title). But other than that it's already good. With metta, Chris Druif 2011/7/2 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com ** More updated things. Sorry, GTK3 is still in development (well, GTK2 too), so there's no download available. I need to tell you that making the GTK2 to GTK3 upgrade is a hell. A strange fight between GTK2 and GTK3 breaks the system making ugly pink fluorescent frames around controls everywhere. Things to do (among others): - finish GTK2 theme - finish GTK3 theme - complete wallpapers pack (8 resolutions) - retouching icons (maybe some new) - retouching panel and button - making a matching Chromium theme (I need help with this) - making an accessibility theme (I absolutely haven't any time to do this this, maybe you, Chris Druif?) - bits and pieces almost invisible (theme performance, sharp edges and colour optimization) - drink some beer [image: :D] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Oneiric/Ozone Thank you for your feedback, boys and grils. Cheers! -- [image: Go to rafaellaguna.com] http://lubuntublog.rafaellaguna.com [image: Go to Lubuntu.net] http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp face-smile-big.pngb3.pngb1.pngb2.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates
From your previews I would say wallpaper_bubbles and panel_light +1 With metta, Chris 2011/6/30 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com ** I'd like to finish Ozone2 before Oneiric release. But you can always download piece by piece as they get polished. I'll keep you informed about changes and additions. Remember that Ozone still lacks a GTK3 theme and (maybe) a dedicated icon theme (a slight variation from elementary, don't panic, just two or three single icons to make it different). PS. Does anybody know if we're going to include GTK2 apps? -- [image: Go to rafaellaguna.com] http://lubuntublog.rafaellaguna.com [image: Go to Lubuntu.net] http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp b3.pngb2.pngb1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
Aloha oukou, With a small check with Google it seems Kubuntu never had Synaptic (or has at least replaced it with something similar, namely Adept) installed. I don't think it will be a problem to ship Lubuntu Synaptic by default. Ubuntu Software Center is available from the repositories when a user requires it. I think we should keep Synaptic the default, seeing we want a lightweight distro in contrary to the middleweight Ubuntu. With metta, Chris Druif On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 15:27, Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:21:39 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com wrote: Hi Jeremy, And the RAM / CPU Usage for USC on a minimal spec Lubuntu machine is Is kinda what I'm asking :) Regards, Phill. It runs painfully slow on my little netbook... when it runs at all. -- Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin - possible problem with 11-10 a1
Might be another reason to switch to Empathy, as it get supported not only by Ubuntu, but also Gnome. Both Pidgin and LXDE don't have that kind of support-base. Just my 2c of course. With metta, Chris Druif On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 00:11, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi and thanks, From what you are saying the poor tormented devs need to have a further look into this. Sorry guys, but it does appear to be a 'bug', as to if it is Network Manager or Pidgin, you good people need to find out. If there is anything i can do to assist on tracking it down, please ask. regards, Phill. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 20 June 2011 15:05, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: After a clean install of lubuntu 11-10 a1, pidgin is quite happy. However, after a reboot it fails to connect. 1) browsing still works (Chromium and FFox) 2) x-chat still works NetworkManager 0.9 changed its API and the version of Pidgin in the Ubuntu repositories hasn't been updated for this change yet. Pidgin checks for network connectivity and does not get the expected response from NetworkManager. The NetworkManager update was mentioned in the Ubuntu alpha release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1 Jeremy ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LightDM Vs LXDM
Aloha Matthew and the rest, I don't run the alpha (or any Lubuntu for that matter) but the switch to LightDM is more than showing the user list. At least for Gnome it means there won't be a second session running and for us it'll mean we've got loads more support for it. That are my 2c at this time of day. And about that not seeing it in the list of session; LightDM or LXDM is the session chooser. with metta, Chris Druif On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 16:00, Matthew Young rs.matthewcom.i...@gmail.comwrote: I don't know much about LightDM, but I don't see it in the list of sessions. I have only seen changes in the login screen. Is that all LightDM is? I think it is good that LightDM lists the users, but is that enough to make the switch worth it? Matthew On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:16 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : Having thought about this it is probably best to go with LightDM if the rest of Ubuntu is going that way. There should be plenty of support for it and we'll be less isolated. I'm still uncertain about this. I still don't want to spend too much time on maintaining a display manager. Having other people doing the job is quite confortable :) The fact that it's working now, doesn't mean it will work in the futur. The display manager is a complex piece of software, with connexions with many others parts, which need a lot of testing. Sharing this will be a advantage. But yes, it's also confortable to just keep LXDM, and hope it will be ok for this cycle. I propose to switch to LightDM for the next alphas, but to confirm the choice before the Beta 1. If we realize it's too much work, we can still go back to LXDM. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- - Want to help me distribute Ubuntu discs and Lubuntu discs at no cost? http://www.swagbucks.com/refer/XboxLaptopUbuntuhttp://www.swagbucks.com/refer/XboxLaptopPikachu -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
Aloha Julien, You forgotten my suggestion to switch to Empathy, or I forgot what the conclusion of the discussion was about that. There was also the discussion about a unity interface, and my remark about that was that I would like support for quicklists if that is even possible at all. And you know my feelings regarding xchat (more stable protocol implemented vs that of pidgin) I'm not available for a meeting this weekend, so keep it on the list I would say. With metta, Chris Druif On Jun 17, 2011 12:32 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Aloha oukou, I've read all the other mails as well, but wanted to reply to this one. Is there an easy way to update/translate sections? I might be able to help in nl and on a side note; which language is the base as no language is 100% translated? With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 19:51, Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.sewrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, PCMan wrote: Please help test and update translations in various distros. If things are ok, I propose a new release. PO files at Pootle (and in git ofc) are updated; these are the stats: LC DoneFuzzy TodoRatio af 0 0 159 0,0% am 0 0 159 0,0% ar 30 3 126 18,9% be 144 6 9 90,6% bg 150 3 6 94,3% bn 144 6 9 90,6% bn_IN 0 0 159 0,0% bs 0 0 159 0,0% ca 137 13 9 86,2% cs 148 5 6 93,1% da 148 5 6 93,1% de 148 5 6 93,1% el 150 3 6 94,3% en_GB 150 3 6 94,3% es 150 3 6 94,3% es_VE 0 0 159 0,0% et 0 0 159 0,0% eu 0 0 159 0,0% fa 148 5 6 93,1% fi 149 3 7 93,7% fo 144 6 9 90,6% fr 150 3 6 94,3% gl 151 5 3 95,0% he 151 5 3 95,0% hr 122 2 35 76,7% hu 148 5 6 93,1% id 146 6 7 91,8% it 150 3 6 94,3% ja 148 5 6 93,1% jv 0 0 159 0,0% kk 0 0 159 0,0% km 47 5 107 29,6% ko 0 0 159 0,0% lg 150 3 6 94,3% li 0 0 159 0,0% lt 150 3 6 94,3% lv 146 5 8 91,8% ml 0 0 159 0,0% ms 0 0 159 0,0% nb 0 0 159 0,0% nl 150 3 6 94,3% nn 0 0 159 0,0% pa 141 5 13 88,7% pl 150 3 6 94,3% ps 0 0 159 0,0% pt 150 3 6 94,3% pt_BR 152 3 4 95,6% ro 0 0 159 0,0% ru 150 3 6 94,3% si 40 0 119 25,2% sk 145 8 6 91,2% sl 150 3 6 94,3% sr 148 5 6 93,1% sr@latin148 5 6 93,1% sv 151 5 3 95,0% te 150 3 6 94,3% th 0 0 159 0,0% tr 150 3 6 94,3% uk 150 3 6 94,3% ur 0 0 159 0,0% ur_PK 0 0 159 0,0% vi 150 3 6 94,3% zh_CN 150 3 6 94,3% zh_TW 137 5 17 86,2% you probably ant to check libfm also: LC DoneFuzzy TodoRatio af 0 0 184 0,0% am 0 0 184 0,0% ar 19 0 165 10,3% be 135 3 46 73,4% bg 179 1 4 97,3% bn 130 4 50 70,7% bn_IN 0 0 184 0,0% bs 0 0 184 0,0% ca 130 4 50 70,7% cs 179 1 4 97,3% da 179 1 4 97,3% de 163 17 4 88,6% el 179 1 4 97,3% en_GB 179 1 4 97,3% es 179 1 4 97,3% es_VE 0 129 55 0,0% et 0 0 184 0,0% eu 0 0 184 0,0% fa 179 1 4 97,3% fi 176 2 6 95,7% fo 178 1 5 96,7% fr 179 1 4 97,3% gl 181 0 3 98,4% he 179 1 4 97,3% hr 162 1 21 88,0% hu 179 1 4 97,3% id 135 3 46 73,4% it 179 1 4 97,3% ja 179 1 4 97,3% jv 0 0 184 0,0% kk 0 0 184 0,0% km 0 0 184 0,0% ko 0 0 184 0,0% lg 179 1 4 97,3% lt 179 2 3 97,3% ml 0 0 184 0,0% ms 0 0 184 0,0% nb 0 0 184 0,0% nl 179 1 4 97,3% nn 0 0 184 0,0% pa 0 0 184 0,0% pl 179 1 4 97,3% ps 0 0 184 0,0% pt 179 1 4 97,3% pt_BR 181 0 3 98,4% ro 0 0 184 0,0% ru 179 1 4 97,3% si
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Aloha oukou, Last official release is 2010-10-14 ... Which is both fairly old, and also bad timing regarding Ubuntu releases, being only about two weeks before the Ubuntu 10.10 final release. That was 4 days AFTER the Ubuntu 10.10 release. But if you want to get something in L/Ubuntu, you have to keep in mind the Feature Freeze [1] this cycle set on August 11th. With metta, Chris Druif [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDM or Lightdm ?
Aloha oukou, I agree with what Julian said about LightDM, on all mentioned (dis)advantages. But the advantages should outweigh the disadvantages, as Ubuntu and Xubuntu even have way more devs hanging around then Lubuntu. Every error or bug we encounter we can put on launchpad and hopefully will get sorted by one of the others. When we've got time to spare, we could solve it ourselves of course and send our patch as solution. So to recap, I'm pro on the switch. With metta, Chris Druif On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 03:33, Ian Gilfillan launch...@greenman.co.zawrote: Julien, just to clarify, LightDM uses 3.2Mb and LXDM 2.3 and not the other way around? This seems a trivial difference. You've mentioned before that support is important for a DM as it needs to be tested across many different configurations. LightDM seems far more active than LXDM, and in spite of being newer you say it's already more complete. I'd say go for the change - if there is a showstopper, or one gets introduced later, it should be relatively easy to revert. Also, if maintenance is being shared with Ubuntu (as opposed to being done by them), it should be possible to stop any issues being introduced that will negatively affect Lubuntu. The main risk seems to be one of bloat as LightDM gets more heavily developed, but LightDM was launched with the purpose of supporting LXDE (although not exclusively, like LXDM), so I'd feel confident about switching. -- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za On 09/06/2011 00:26, Yorvyk wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:39:42 +0200 Julien Lavergnegi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I'm a bit late for that, but it still time to discuss such topic. LightDM [1] will be the next display manager for Ubuntu, and probably Xubuntu (maybe Kubuntu also !). It will replace GDM which have a tight dependency on GNOME. LightDM has the advantage to split the greeter (the UI part) and the core (which do all the black magic for users, consolkit etc ...). You can build a greeter which use GTK only, Qt, Webkit etc ... It's also heavily developed this cycle. Last cycle I tested LightDM, but found that it was not ready. Also, LXDM is now in a good shape. I tested it briefly on Oneiric, and it seems in better shape now, and with RAM usage similar to LXDM (3.2 vs 2.3 Mb) To summarize : Advantages: * More complete than LXDM * Maintenance shared with Ubuntu and Xubuntu * Heavily developed Disadvantages : * New and less tested in Lubuntu than LXDM * Dependant to Ubuntu team for changes : we are not free to modify the DM, and it's possible that Ubuntu team introduce a change which indirectly impact others flavors (remember Ubiquity changes for disk requierement last cycle) IMO, if items I mentioned at the UDS are managed by LightDM [2], we can try to switch for this cycle. If later in the cycle we discover that there are problems, we can still switch again to LXDM. What do you think ? Regards, Julien Lavergne [1] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM [2] : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-lightdm I've been running Ubuntu Oneiric with lightdm for a while and it appears to behave it's self OK. Having had a bit of a read about it I don't see an advantage in either, from a user's point of view, and I'm a bit lost with the technical (dis)advantages. A few thoughts. With the change to GTK3 and the potential problems to be resolved with that, are we adding another headache for the few competent devs we have. Or would having Lightdm give us one less problem, as others in the Ubuntu community would be dealing with it and we wouldn't have to worry about lxdm either. Would sticking with what we know be better as lxdm doesn't have any real problems and performs the function for which it is intended. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop
Thanks for all the replies in gedit. I've currently got no machine to test these things, that's why it was only a proposal. I'll install it myself when I need to use it. With metta, Chris Druif On Jun 8, 2011 8:03 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Gedit -1, way too slow on my old machines. (P3 and below) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop
Aloha oukou, I've got one suggestion for replacement, which is to replace leafpad with gedit. Note bloated in any way and handy syntax highlighting to boon. With metta, Chris Druif On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 01:13, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hiyas Boss, Me thinks now would be a good time to decide these items. Setting up a vote, followed by a meeting may be a good idea? We have - June 14th : End of proposal for applications by default Followed by - June 19th : Decision for the modifications of default applications @ ALL Yes, I know everyone who proposes their favourite application that is not installed by default feels sore, hopefully in Lubuntu we are not that petty as to leave because of it. Any application can be added from the repositories, some of the 'weird' stuff people do to Lubuntu is a testament to just how rock solid it is. The old, and so far, not replaced rule is that a proposed application may not... 1) Use any hard disk space up 2) Use any CPU time when running 3) Use any RAM when running. Whilst we may laugh at such rules, they are what make Lubuntu able to do what it does on our minimal spec. For those with lots of Hard Disk space and RAM and really high CPU's - Great. Lubuntu is lean, mean, keen and green. BUT we are going to remain within our Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MiB of RAM Regards, Phill. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: I say stick with what we've got and lets get Lubuntu twiddled and polished. Remember when suggesting applications that the target is a couple of hundred MHz CPU and 128 MiB of RAM. Indeed, let's remain focused on keeping Lubuntu light. We also need to consider how many changes are already in the works ;^) I doubt the change to GTK+ 3 will be without numerous challenges, as will be transition to becoming a full-fledged Ubuntu release. No easy time for the limited number of devs. But, regarding software in particular this may come into play, from the ToDo (more than bite size) list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO Software-center : Work on a new minimal interface to see if it's possible to switch to SC: TODO It may be possible that an appropriate version of SC could solve most of these problems. Maybe we could install even less and then let people decide what fits their needs and hardware best. But ATM we need to give the devs room to adjust to the changes at hand. --- On *Tue, 6/7/11, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com* wrote: From: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 2:19 PM On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:06:28 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jpx...@gmail.com wrote: From a very-humble user point of view: I use Libre Office + Gnumeric (Abiword can't convince me). As i read recently, Libre Office is getting performance improvements, but the problem is still the ram consumption vs the ram used by abiword (i use LO for writer and slideshows, but gnumeric is a magnificient tool), LO is an option? It could bring a slideshow editor to Lubuntu... Let individually decide but my guess is that Lubuntu should remain with abiword gnumeric for the concept. Midori: in many ways it could be best than chromium, but as PCMAN said, it's not stable at all . Try running Libre/open Office on a 160 MIB, 300MHz machine and I think you'll find it just becomes unpleasant. Abiword does everything I need of a word processor, and I install it on Ubuntu as Libre/Open Office is just cumbersome. As somebody who has had to sit through endless 'slide show' presentations I believe it may be one of the worst uses for a computer ever. I have Midori on one machine and keep trying it. It seems to take two steps forward then one back. It has a way to go before it is a real alternative to FF or Chromium, sadly. Games: ace of penguins is faster than anything, but they're not cool at all. Everybody i've shown this says something like looks ugly, how can i configure it?. There's nothing better around? Ace of Penquins is probably best described as functional ;) but, who needs 'looks' in card games anyway? There is however a set of icons being produced, slowly, for it. \o/ PDF viewers: i'm with Rafael on this, Evince is the best choice there is (besides, it can read a lot of formats, not only pdf ;) Evince does appear to be the most functional of PDF reader on Linux. xscreensaver makes my installations crash on every old computer i own, i already said this on the mailing list: it's heavy and it consumes energy displaying something fancy on the screen instead of just a black screen or turn it off (clearly i don't like it...); but it locks the screen, so it's necessary. I have nothing nice to say about screen
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
Maybe a suggestion is to let the Wiki FG of UBT help with the move? On Jun 5, 2011 3:01 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Phill, Le Saturday 04 June 2011 à 02:32 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : As we progress towards 11.10, the two 'help areas' for documentation are becoming impossible to keep in synch. I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. I'd rather we take a slight hit with a general divert from the DocumentationHelp go straight to the 'new' area, sooner rather than later. There will be a notification on the old area, I need to check if setting up a 'section' divert is possible. Regardless of that, we need to have the docs on the community section and off the lubuntu dev section. Thanks for the summarize. If you can't do a per section divert, we will have to do per page divert. Am I right ? I think we need to move as soon as possible to the new section. Having 2 places for documentation is a bad situation. If you need help to modify each page, please list all the pages somewhere, so we can organize the move as soon as possible. I can spend some time to help on this if it's needed, I think it's important to finish it quickly. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Hello Lance, I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the installer (bug 3)? Welcome to the crew by the way. With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: hiyas kansasnoob, firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2. The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions. Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again. For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great :P My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers, Phill. P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct me. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob at Ubuntu forums. I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing. Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The specific bugs are: 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx * to get the DE. 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons. 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart. Of course none of these are serious or unexpected this early in a dev cycle, but I wanted to get my feet wet checking out bug filing against Lubuntu anyway, and I'm a bit puzzled. I'm used to iso-testing pure Ubuntu so all of the above bugs would be filed against 'casper' but I know these bugs were not present when I tested Ubuntu so I thought I should possibly file them against the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' but that's a no-go. I'm just wondering if the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' should be added to launchpad as a bug filing option? I'm very impressed with the Lubuntu project and I hope my iso-testing skills may be helpful at some point, but I have no development skills. I'm just a tester. Apologies in advance if I was wrong posting in this manner. Sincerely, Lance ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages
You are probably forgetting about direct redirect, not to the general area, when a duplicate page is on the new area. With metta, Chris Druif On Jun 4, 2011 3:59 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. Can't that be scripted? If I remember rightly, a divert is just a magic text string at the top of each page. So a bulk edit of all those pages should do it. What I am I forgetting? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating An Accessibility Specification for Lubuntu 11.10
Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here. Ubuntu Accessibility does not, in fact, set up any roadmap for any distribution except Ubuntu. Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu, etc, all set their own roadmaps for the distribution they develope. They do not rely on any other team exept their own to decide what they will do in a cycle. -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] No, it means each distribution makes its own accessibility roadmap, since we don't know what each distribution developers are capable of during a cycle. Kubuntu, for example, will have accessible installations and screen-reader this cycle. Xubuntu has not decided on its plans yet. Each variant is in fact a separate distribution, even if we all use the same repositories. -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -- What I think is going wrong is difference in jargon. When the Lubuntu devs/people asked for a roadmap is what the Accessibility people would see as an priority list. When the Lubuntu people have their priority list, then they can create their own roadmap. As the Lubuntu devs are very motivated to get accepted as being an official derivative, they also want to get to some of the levels Ubuntu has achieved so far at least. Just to proof their worth. That's why they asked for a roadmap and current position of Ubuntu. But I think now that the situation has been cleared, I think a priority list would fill the gap of what the Lubuntu people are looking for. Then they can argue among themselves what would be a realistic roadmap. With metta, Chris Druif ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client
I would be +1 on dropping xchat if it's IRC protocol would get a decent upgrade, it's far to unstable in it's connection. Otherwise I would still use it probably. Xchat's protocol for IRC is more solid (advantage of single protocol apps). I won't make a suggestion for default media player, as I like it to arrange it for me, so I install Rhythmbox myself. For default text editor I'd like to nominate gedit, as it is also lightweight in my opinion, but has addition features compared to leafpad (including, but not limited too syntax highlighting). I don't know how much Empathy has progressed in the last few months and will in de coming, but that might also be an good default for IM. Just a suggestion, but last time I've used it I wasn't to keen on it. I didn't do a comparison between Pidgin and Empathy in terms of stability and resources. With metta, Chris Druif On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:13, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for dropping XChat. The purpose of default applications are to provide a sane and easy-to-use default for common users. Learning how to use two different applications won't be easier than learning one. So using pidging for all protocols is supports do makes sense. Users can learn once and use it for everything. Power users who requires advanced scripting support can always install their powerful favorites manually. In the case of media player, gnome mplayer apparently has a bad music player UI. That's why we need a separate music player. Otherwise mplayer works just fine. For me, my favorite editor is geany, not leafpad. However I won't ship a programmer's editor as a default text editor for common users. Having xchat specifically for irc instead of pidgin won't make that much differences for common users, IMHO. So only including pidgin might be better in this case. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2011 00:24:57 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: If we are going to keep pidgin for IM, what do we need xchat for? It is on my TODO list for applications discussions. IMO, we should just drop xchat. I always use pidgin for IRC, and it doesn't a pretty decent work. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client
Aloha ka po'e apau, I've switched from using Pidgin to xchat, as the extra features are quite nice and it seems more stable then Pidgin's implementation. With metta, Chris Druif On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 01:24, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hiyas, todays lesson is to how to start a flame war Whilst tidying up the 'new area' for docs I noticed a missing link. That was the easy bit... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications If we are going to keep pidgin for IM, what do we need xchat for? I ceased using xchat and reverted back to pidgin in 9.10 when x-chat had that memory leak. It has been fixed, but pidgin does give a decent level of IRC (I use it) along with the ability to do all the other IM protocols. It also has 'plugin' package. Whilst not the 'best' IRC client, it does a decent job of it and also provides access to all the IM stuff that people seem to love these days Do we really want to waste RAM with two programmes? /me retires to a safe distance. @ Julien, I've pointed the list of applications from the community doc area back to the dev area, as that page seems best placed there. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 roadmap proposal
It's already on omgubuntu, I think they really like us! =D On May 26, 2011 1:36 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Julien, looks good to me :) Regards, Phill. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: I'll do it if nobody have comments on it. Thanks :) Julien Lavergne Le 26 mai 2011 à 03:24, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com a écrit : hiyas Julien, have you already done, or do you want me to put this onto the development area for 11.10 on the wiki area? Regards, Phill. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, This is a proposal for the roadmap of Lubuntu 11.10 : * June 2nd : Alpha 1 * June 14th : End of proposal for applications by default * June 19th : Decision for the modifications of default applications * July 7th : Alpha 2 * August 4th : Alpha 3 * August 11th : Feature Freeze (no more new stuff and new version) * August 17th : End of proposal for artwork * August 21nd : Decision for Artwork * September 1st : Beta 1 * September 15th : Documentation / String Freeze * September 22nd : Beta 2 * September 29th : Final Freeze (only critical changes) * October 13th : Final release We share the same deadline than Ubuntu. Specificities are for proposals and decisions for default applications and artwork. Concerning the Alpha 1, it will probably be still build with the old script (with install-recommends turn on). The goal is to have a real ISO for Alpha 2. Let me know if you have comments about it :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 roadmap proposal
Aloha Julian, I'd have to get my head into it, but I think it's good that we keep in line with the Ubuntu roadmap. Let's hope they don't change the roadmap during the game AGAIN! By the way, I still think the normal roadmap has deadlines for default apps, artwork and everything. But that's just a side note. With metta, Chris Druif On May 25, 2011 10:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE plans and priorities
Could I help with the gtk3 theme? 2011/5/24 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com For those who interested, the documentation for GTK3 stable build is here: http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/ But I must advert that it's not intended for themers / artwork coders. Its purpose is more oriented for GUI builders, so reading can be difficult as a guide for making themes. That docs will be finished in a few days. And I have more information. I've noticed that the Light Themes has been ported to GTK3 succesfully as a Launchpad trunk branch, here: https://launchpad.net/light-themes/trunk ...and Murrine engine here (GIT): http://git.gnome.org/browse/murrine/log/?h=gtk%2b3 Too much information, I know. For the moment I will keep working on making a new theme and promote it as a Oneiric candidate theme, among co-working with the Flickr group and ensuring more people contribution outside our crew (Community). Thank you. -- http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/http://www.lubuntu.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp b3.pngb2.pngb1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
I should've mentioned it on the mailing-list that I already mentioned it on IRC to phillw, but thanks anyway. On May 19, 2011 6:51 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 697694] Re: Lubuntu installation crashes
Aloha, As far as I know is the partitioner that's being used the gparted partitioner, but the devs can tell us more about it. With metta, Chris Druif On May 19, 2011 6:41 PM, phix 697...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I have this problem too, installer failed while the partitioner was going (thankfully no data was lost -- looks like gparted finished the job). I was asked to post some files, but I had no idea how to do it. Computer is a P3, 733 MHz, 512 MB ram. If the installer can't safely perform the functions it includes, maybe those functions should be disabled on future releases. A gparted live cd can be used to partition, and it's probably a better tool anyway. 2011/5/19 trevor 697...@bugs.launchpad.net ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/697694 Title: Lubuntu installation crashes Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: ubiquity I tried installing Lubuntu 10.10 but the installation crashed and it said to report a bug with two files attached: partman, and syslog. The thing is that I can only attach one file, how do I attach the other. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/697694 Title: Lubuntu installation crashes Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: ubiquity I tried installing Lubuntu 10.10 but the installation crashed and it said to report a bug with two files attached: partman, and syslog. The thing is that I can only attach one file, how do I attach the other. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
Looks pretty good. However, won't we be making an alternate installer as well? With metta, Chris Druif On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 20:43, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Monday 16 May 2011 à 15:26 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GetLubuntu It is still quite skeletal whilst I ensure I get all the variants in! I will add the links to the community pages and then ensure that they are all upto date before I make that page 'live'. Comments, as always are appreciated. Ok for me, thanks for your work on this :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mirror available : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/
Also the unofficial 64 bit Natty? ;-) On May 13, 2011 2:37 PM, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote: W00T!! Very nice!! On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, A French company offer us a mirror for all Lubuntu ISO (10.04 to 11.04) : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/ I encourage you to download there, as we have some statistics on downloads :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- God Bless ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
I think a torrent would also be great, that way the load will be share among everyone. I'll save my custom lubuntu-rc.xml and will try it when I've for it in. For your other questions I've got no real answers (just woke minutes ago). With metta, Chris Druif On May 11, 2011 4:54 AM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
I'll probably be online tonight to download the torrent and will burn it tomorrow. Will test it over the current 32 bit install. Yay, 64 bit =D. With metta, Chris Druif On May 11, 2011 10:20 PM, Keith Clark keithcl...@k-wbookworm.com wrote: Ok, I'm all set up and ready to seed here! Keith On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 22:00 +0200, Michał Ćwikliński wrote: It's done http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-detailsid=b29819701aedf1470ee098112fb2003eb881da25 W dniu 2011-05-11 21:09, Fredrik Andersson pisze: Well i might be able to upload it to Linuxtracker.org, if someone should beat Me to it i will jump in and seed Contact: MailMessenger fredrikfri...@gmail.com Den 11 maj 2011 20.07, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com skrev: I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening. So we will have a mirror of it. Who will upload it to a torrent site? I'm eager to seed after I have it. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the md5sum matches (nothin... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-des... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
I made a reply on there that is no-way official or tested so they use it at their own risk =) On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 00:59, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:33:16 -0400 Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this is released to the public. Too late http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-64bit-image-available-for-download/ -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )
How do you make Deluge share better? Only when I'm downloaden the uploading seems to go fast, but besides that, it seems really slow. Even thou I'm not online all the time, but should be more than 1.241 ratio. Also I can't seem to be able to upload with every torrent I've got uploading (8 linux images), even after setting upload slots to about 20. Any thoughts to what I need to change would be appreciative. I'm also on IRC most of the time, so can also be talked to directly. With metta, Chris Druif On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 06:50, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 05/04/2011 09:27 PM, Benny Hult wrote: Also we can distribute Lubuntu better, ... Yes. Although, the torrents we have available continue to be pretty popular; my Deluge torrent app now says my ratio for lubuntu-11.04.iso is 45 :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )
Yes, please make an 64 bit ISO! I'll be one of the first to test/use it. With metta, Chris Druif On May 5, 2011 8:14 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: For the time being, I can go ahead and whip up a 64 bit .iso if there is any interest in me doing so. It shouldn't take but a couple of hours. I have most of one put together already as I'll need it to build the 64 bit Peppermint release. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 20:38:25 -0700 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: As well as the expected publicity and marketing benefits, at a technical level we would be able to use the official Ubuntu build infrastructure for creating our ISOs, and official test setups for tracking which tests have been done on which builds of Lubuntu. We will have also 32, 64 bits ISO, + alternate ISO, + ARM ISO (for mobile devices), for free :) Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Kendall Weaver CTO, Peppermint LLC 828-489-9757 kend...@peppermintos.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New header
I have had some thoughts about it and will try some things this afternoon again. I can't seem to give the links a custom color, therefor they are orange. I will see if there is a bug about it on [1], or I will make one for it. I'll report back when I've got it updated to a new release. With metta, Chris Druif On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:18, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote: I do like the blue scheme but i suggest maxing how many topics are shown in each box to only 4. The orange lettering when looked at long enough for reading will start to blur together. The BT scheme only uses 4 topics as you can see compared the the suggested 5 topics. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Aloha tout moun, Julien, I think you meant with too big that it's too high. As I'm clueless as to how we could split the sub-teams up into two Blocks. As that block become 5 high, it's no use making the other block smaller, would only look weird/ugly. The dark blue top can be made half it's height (better put, the height of the font), so that would make it a bit lower. But that's just marginally smaller. About the logo's I can be short: they are attachments and not links to online images and I didn't upload images to those attachments. I've updated the banner to be smaller in height and uploaded one image to the attachment of the Main block. Check again here [1] and give m your opinions. Note: second logo is still broken as in nothing uploaded. Need too look for a proper image for there. With metta, Chris Druif [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/Sandbox On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 22:38, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Monday 02 May 2011 à 21:47 +0200, UndiFineD a écrit : What would be a small screen for you Julien ? A eeePC 701, 800x480 :) Note that it's not a blocker, just a note :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- God Bless ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet
I gave my feedback. It looks good, but I'm not entirely sure about the tilted numbers on the disks. Great work. With metta, Chris Druif 2011/5/3 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com Ok, the wallet is ready. Three files (wallet, disc and lightscribe grayscaled prints). You can download these at the marketing wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing Please, feedback. PS. And thank you all, crew, for your inspiring words about my contribution. -- http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/http://www.lubuntu.net/ b3.pngb2.pngb1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet
Jared, They grey cd is for lightscribe if I'm not mistaken. By the way, can Rafael also put them on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing ? Thanks. With metta, Chris Druif On 05/02/2011 12:01:49 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com,Lubuntu Desktop mailing wrote: Rafael, As always your attention to detail is outstanding. I personally prefer the blue CD but they are both amazing. Well done, keep up the great work. Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) [1]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris 2011/4/30 神癒�湖 (Rafael Laguna) [2]rafaellag...@gmail.com Hello, boys and girls. Here's the wallet. Lubuntu style, not Canonical style. Any changes / suggestions / ideas / hates? Vote, baby, vote (a Deee-Lite song). -- [3][] [] [4][] ___ Mailing list: [5]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to   : [6]lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [7]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help  : [8]https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp --485b397dd703e0d3c404a23c9207-- References 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris 2. mailto:rafaellag...@gmail.com 3. http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/ 4. http://www.lubuntu.net/ 5. https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop 6. mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net 7. https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop 8. https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] New header
Aloha tout moun, I've spend the afternoon making a new, more modern header for the wiki and help pages. To check it out, head over to [1] which will show a comparison between my new and the current header. In the bottom you see the base for the new header, the UBT header. If you miss any links in the new header or have suggestions, please share them with me. I would be very honored if you wanted to use my header. With metta, Chris Druif [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/Sandbox ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New header
Aloha tout moun, Julien, I think you meant with too big that it's too high. As I'm clueless as to how we could split the sub-teams up into two Blocks. As that block become 5 high, it's no use making the other block smaller, would only look weird/ugly. The dark blue top can be made half it's height (better put, the height of the font), so that would make it a bit lower. But that's just marginally smaller. About the logo's I can be short: they are attachments and not links to online images and I didn't upload images to those attachments. I've updated the banner to be smaller in height and uploaded one image to the attachment of the Main block. Check again here [1] and give m your opinions. Note: second logo is still broken as in nothing uploaded. Need too look for a proper image for there. With metta, Chris Druif [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/Sandbox On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 22:38, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Monday 02 May 2011 à 21:47 +0200, UndiFineD a écrit : What would be a small screen for you Julien ? A eeePC 701, 800x480 :) Note that it's not a blocker, just a note :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet
Looks pretty good. Only thing I'm not too sure about is the tilted 11.04 on the CD-label. With metta, Chris Druif 2011/4/30 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com Hello, boys and girls. Here's the wallet. Lubuntu style, not Canonical style. Any changes / suggestions / ideas / hates? Vote, baby, vote (a Deee-Lite song). -- http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/http://www.lubuntu.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Beta 2 released
Aloha everyone, Are the known issues still the same? And do the both Minimal CD's link the the beta 2 ISO's? It's not really clear to me, as [1] [2] link to /current somewhere. Thanks for explaining in advance. With metta, Chris Druif [1] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [2] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 01:25, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, A quick email to announce that beta2 is available. It should be very close to the final Lubuntu 11.04. The 2 main modifications are the changes of the ISO to boot correctly with Virtualbox 4.0, and the removal of Java plugin by default (because it installed Firefox, which we don't want). I'll try to do a proper summarize for the final release announcement. Download as usual : Torrent : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-natty-beta2.iso.torrent Direct : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-natty-beta2.iso md5sum : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt Happy testing :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.04 Beta 1: Check disc for errors returns 115 errors in ./isolinux/*
Hai Steven, As you might have seen on the mailing list of today is beta 2 just been released. If not then you should find all the info you need about it here [1]. As always try to use the torrent (but as your mail has indicated you gave no problem using that). Can you please check if these errors still exist on the beta 2 ISO. If that is the case, please reply to this email with your findings. With metta, Chris Op 21 apr. 2011 22:32 schreef Steven sten...@gmail.com het volgende: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Natty Beta 2, what is the progress?
Hai everyone, A few days back did Ubuntu release it's beta 2, however, I've seen nothing on the mailing-list about our beta 2 release. And every time I ask in #lubuntu-offtopic nobody seems to know anything about beta 2, so that's why I'm asking in the public. With metta, Chris Druif ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major must fix before Beta issues left in Lubuntu?
Should we consider putting it on the list of ubiquity devs to reduce memory footprint? Once we are an official derivative of Ubuntu we might have a better foot to stand on and ask for these things. But it would even benefit Ubuntu I guess. Lower footprint would speed up installation as well? Just a thought of course. With metta, Chris On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 21:15, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le lundi 28 mars 2011 à 21:48 -0600, matthew byers a écrit : Though I have not had time to properly test this out if it now takes more ram to install I think we need to address that soon. Lets not lose sight of what lubuntu is just because we are trying to please others. Lubuntus small footprint is a high quality of it so I would hate to see that go. Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory footprint of the installer for 11.04. We used the same than Ubuntu, which have some advantages (ex: shared development) and disadvantages (ex: memory usage is not the priority of the ubiquity devs). Installer need some improvements (reducing memory usage, add option to install only lubuntu-core ...), but it's not the easiest part of Lubuntu / Ubuntu :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Hai everyone, Agreed the screensaver shouldn't be energy consuming, it should be the opposite. I like Mod4 + L for locking btw. Cheers, Chris Druif I like 2011/2/25 Marcelo Zacarias da Silva marc...@ciagri.usp.br On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré wrote: The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for slow machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE. So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and gnome-power-preferences should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :)) Agreed. IMHO, running CPU intensive programs when the user is way makes no sense. An option to blank and/or lock the screen (automatically or by user request, like CTRL-ALT-L in Ubuntu) is useful (again, IMHO). -- Marcelo Zacarias da Silva Analista de Sistemas - CIAGRI/USP Linux User #4253 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...
Hai Tim, Welcome on the mailing-list first of all. You seem to have a pretty clear image in what might be efficient. You might enlighten us with your definition of an efficient OS. Love to hear your thoughts. Cheers, Chris On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 15:10, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: What should Lubuntu do? I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree 100%. But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older hardware (Lubuntu is too nice not to use it on modern hardware!) My main point is that Lubuntu should be for everyone and not just us tweakers and geekers. I want to be able to install it on anyone's computer and not have to worry about what it won't do for them. So my question is what dose the average user expect their OS to do out of the box? Pretend you are putting it on someone's machine. Maybe your mother, or the neighbor who has never used anything other than Windows. What will they expect? Here's my list: - be efficient (most overlooked by most OS) - handle music, video and Internet - find anything on my local network - download and open files properly - let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI out) - have basic office apps (even though I don't use them) - allow basic personalization (LXDE's lack of menu editor is a bummer, but I don't fault anyone for that.) Lubuntu has come pretty close to meeting my expectations. I've had to tweak a little bit and I might still be missing a few things here and there, but overall, I love it. The one area it blows everything else away is with it's efficiency. It seems like that's the most overlooked item in all the other Ubuntu variants I've used. Tim ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Hai Tim, I thought I replied to all, not just you. But it's like I said mainly for CRT screens. Cheers, Chris P.S.: my funny bone was tingling =P Op 25 feb. 2011 16:00 schreef Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com het volgende: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps
Hai everyone, Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try to give the full experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with a character map installed, I would like to suggest that Lubuntu also comes installed with an character map. Seeing gucharmap (ubuntu's default) doesn't require any addition dependencies and should take 561kB on disk. It was discussed in the latest meeting, and gilir suggested to put it on the mailing-list to check if anyone was against the addition, so let yourself be heard if you do. Kindest of regards, MrChrisDruif -- This message was sent from Launchpad by Chris Druif (https://launchpad.net/~chrisdruif) using the Contact this team link on the Lubuntu team page (https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop). For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
