Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] precise artwork
Hi Rafael, So, we install the new one and then choose a theme we like? (Shhs, don't tell anyone - horror forbid we have a choice :P ) As ever Rafael, thanks for the hard work you and your small team put in. It is such an important element of the system. @ Julien - How soon to the staging PPA? thanks, Phill. On 27 January 2012 19:44, 神癒礁湖 rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: ** Hi, people: I have updated the artwork (again). I REALLY recommend you to replace your Ozone3 theme with this one (a lot of improvements solve several bugs). Also, the wallpaper is ready (after a selection process). Again no option for colour (sorry) for us and Xubuntu devs (also Kubuntu are slaved to its plasmoid style) due to Canonical restrictions. If you feel better, the new artwork package will include all previous Lubuntu themes and some walls by the Flickr community. Check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Precise/Ozone As always, feedback is appreciated. Thanks. -- http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/http://www.lubuntu.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw b2.pngb1.pngb3.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection
This has solved the problem in lubuntu -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/911905 Title: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection Status in GTK+ GUI Toolkit: Fix Released Status in “gtk+3.0” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: When choosing install xubuntu from the cd menu, hitting enter on the first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language. Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images. TESTCASE: 1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language 2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu 3. Select Install Xubuntu or Install Ubuntu 4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue 5. Note next screen is not in English. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: ubiquity 2.9.10 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686 ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1 Architecture: i386 CasperVersion: 1.296 Date: Wed Jan 4 18:04:56 2012 LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin - Alpha i386 (20120104) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: ubiquity UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/911905/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Marketing Team?
Hi Ali, comms will be looking after that. The Art-team do the fantastic banners and CD folder graphics along with their work on icons, themes etc. (Keeps them out of mischief :P ). Regards, Phill. On 18 January 2012 09:52, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, As far as I remember, we didn't talk yet about The Marketing Team, did we? or maybe the communication team will do the marketing job? I see almost everything is set: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeamsand I hope things will be finalized soon and everyone will start working on his/her area which is GREAT :) Thanks! -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* - -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] comms and Lubuntu Support Team.
Hi gang! *Comms: * They have an immediate focus on things like getting the blog up and running (my task). Jens has asked that he may interview someone from each team so as to better advertise who we are and our structure. I know that you will take the time out for that. The human face of the people who 'are' lubuntu. There may be times when Jens needs to be able to confirm / deny a story that leaks out quickly so as to enforce that the https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms is THE place to get 'correct' information as opposed to rumours. I ask, therefore, that the devs would join that area so that any news from them does not languish in the moderation queue. There is no need to join the ML unless you want to. For every other member of lubuntu who is an advocate, please do join let comms know what you are doing. *Lubuntu Support Team: * Ali is more than happy to take the role of co-ordinator of LST (not be confused with LTS). The basis of this is going to be: The new lubuntu-supp...@lists.ubuntu.com list can be only for support-related discussion, stuff like: I think *this* issue is a FAQ, has anyone else been asked something like this?, or Help, I don't know the answer to *that*, but I think it matters, any ideas on a solution or workaround anyone?. Regarding having a visible tracking list of currently important/unanswered/might be a FAQ kinds of support issues, I'd suggest a wiki page would be a logical medium for the team to use to maintain such a list. (Thanks JM for that insight) *Bug reporting and LST: * Whilst not wishing to discourage people from logging bug reports, most of my mail from the bug-team is actually This is a duplicate of bug xx. I'd like to mention that an apport raised bug is easily checked to see if the bug is already there. I know that n00bs do not know how to check. For the rest of us, if there is doubt if it is a bug, or a feature that is not there (Wish List), or a possible mis-configuration of customising their system - would they please ask before logging a bug via launchpad, this also applies to what do I log it against. I'll link the bug reporting system wiki page to the LST wiki page Well, as they say at marriages... for all those who disagree with this creation of the two new groups ground rules, speak now or else wait until they have all being running a while and we can fine tune them. So, that is v0.99 for each of those two teams. And just to prove it is not all bad news, The https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation has had its first tidy up, there is still work to be done to get the 'old' areas off it and onto their own areas. We are making progress! The full tidying up of our wiki areas will take some time and I'd like to thank Chris for not resigning as soon as he saw the task! Regards, Phill. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ
I am still awaiting a deffinitive answer from the devs Too busy coding to answer us mere mortals :P Regards, Phill. On 5 January 2012 22:09, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/01/12 19:21, Julien Lavergne wrote: Hi, It's official, we have a new mailing list :) lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please subscribe to this new mailing list (See https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ). The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions, and the team will be close soon. Thanks for your attention :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp So...is this the developer list, the user list, or both? Or some combination thereof? Sorry, behind the times and a little confused. Thanks, Michael PS I know, sort of a new topic, but I'm moving. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection
I can confirm it also affect lubuntu -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/911905 Title: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When choosing install xubuntu from the cd menu, hitting enter on the first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language. Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images. TESTCASE: 1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language 2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu 3. Select Install Xubuntu or Install Ubuntu 4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue 5. Note next screen is not in English. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: ubiquity 2.9.10 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686 ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1 Architecture: i386 CasperVersion: 1.296 Date: Wed Jan 4 18:04:56 2012 LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin - Alpha i386 (20120104) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: ubiquity UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/911905/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Teams
Hi wxl, I'll go create a wiki / Doc team on lp. You'll know when it's done as I will add you! Regards, Phill. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM, ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote: One question: would love to add myself but can't. I have no problem editing the Lubuntu wiki, however. What am I missing? wxl/walter On 01/02/2012 02:50 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Hi, Following the last meeting, I would like to expose my proposal for the teams to everyone. You can find the summary on this wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams Currently, we have already : - The artwork team (Rafael and Alexander) - Testing / QA Team (see Phillw mail on the mailing list) - IRC Team (maybe not yet organised) If you have any comments / suggestions, feel free to answer this mail :) If there is no problem, we can start to work very soon with them. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Teams
The Wiki / Docs team is now created [1] please feel free to ping me if you wish to join! Regards, Phill. [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi wxl, I'll go create a wiki / Doc team on lp. You'll know when it's done as I will add you! Regards, Phill. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM, ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote: One question: would love to add myself but can't. I have no problem editing the Lubuntu wiki, however. What am I missing? wxl/walter On 01/02/2012 02:50 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Hi, Following the last meeting, I would like to expose my proposal for the teams to everyone. You can find the summary on this wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams Currently, we have already : - The artwork team (Rafael and Alexander) - Testing / QA Team (see Phillw mail on the mailing list) - IRC Team (maybe not yet organised) If you have any comments / suggestions, feel free to answer this mail :) If there is no problem, we can start to work very soon with them. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Happy New Year 2012
And a happy new year to our graphics department (hey, at last rafeal has a team) Here's to 2012! Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:03 PM, David Reimer djrei...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool wallpaper* - and a big thankyou to the Lubuntu team via Canonical who breathed new life into my old machine! Sort of a metaphor for life. :) Best wishes for 2012! David. [* looks like Jared Norris is a pretty special team member: in two places at once! Nifty! ;) ] On 1 January 2012 11:49, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, A quick mail to wish you all, a happy new year :-) 2011 was a very cool year for Lubuntu, let's hope 2012 will be also a happy year :-) Also, for people who are testing Precise, you should have, with today updates, a gift [1] from the Artwork Team, if you kept the default wallpaper ;-) Regards, Julien Lavergne [1] For others, it's here : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art/+junk/lubuntu-artwork/download/117/lubuntudefaultwallpa-20111231173218-l0v3jypivw1jw0wl-1/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png -- David Reimer | Edinburgh, UK http://wiki.ubuntu.com/djreimer | https://launchpad.net/~djreimer ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug in Ubiquity.
Hi Boss, (14:39:13) MrChrisDruif: Make a link to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lubuntu in the screenshots with the installer, just like it links to the wiki and launchpad page (14:39:41) MrChrisDruif: And the bug is that the quick search is enabled again after installation (14:40:17) MrChrisDruif: Seeing we disabled it, it's a bug. (14:40:59) MrChrisDruif: phillw: ^ (14:42:25) phillw: it must pull in the additional lib function. I am guessing this needs filing against Ubiquity? Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] My Story in 2011
My look back on 2011? We not only survived an event that would have despatched other teams to oblivion, we, under the incredible and tenacious attitude of Julien got through it. I am not going to fall into the trap of try mentioning all those people who made 11.10 happen, every person within the lubuntu team and our ubuntu family has not only given more of themselves, asked a bit of a help, or a favour from someone during the trek for us to attain full adoption. It got tough, but Lubuntu 11.10 arrived on specification, on time and within budget! 12.04 brings new challenges. Lubuntu is ready for them, even over the 'holiday' season our IRC team are in place, the QA / testing team, our start on IRC / Wiki / Forum interaction teams have been started. As we have never lost our dev team nor artwork team, it was a case of getting the everything else into teams. Still got to get the translations team fully back up to speed. As lubuntu is a lean, mean and nimble flavour of the ubuntu family, we can be nimble. So, for 2012? Get on board, the teams are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved and you can find a list of who we all are, along with our time zones etc. at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre Here is to 2012. The team that got us from 9.04 from the very, very alpha one before I joined at about 9.10, can I say thank you. You did it, it will always remain as yeah, I made a difference. Whllst we nagged over things, we have always had a an agreement. Thank you to all of Lubuntueers, it matters not when you joined. It matters that you have. I'd like to sign off with an oft quoted comment, but for me chatting with devs and then taking the time to explain to me, a wiki / doc person .. We were all n00bs when we were born, the lubuntu te On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote: On 31/12/11 21:27, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: Dear All, In few words, I'd like to share my story in 2011 with you all. 2011 was A CRAZY YEAR and fill of lots of things that can't be summarized. I admit it was full of screws up but TWO GREAT THINGS happened in 2011 that changed my history, present and future. In 2011, I found the real purpose and aim of my life that I shall spend my life time ... each year, month, day, minute, second and nano second praying and be very much grateful for that. The Steps that I have made in 2011, unquestionably, the best step I've ever made, period. My one and only love, you have supported me and still do ... you have never let me down and still do ... you have never given up on me and still do ... no words and nothing will express how much I'm grateful to you. *Happy New Love Year to You*3 *THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING IN MY LIFE* :) In 2011, my interest, activity, understanding and experience in Linux has grown up and it became so obvious how much I like Linux and what I'm capable to do for it. Before that, I used to like everything and anything. Was jumping here and there with no clear aim or purpose. That vanished and faded away the moment I did the second great step in 2011 and joined Lubuntu Team. I've never done something so right like that. I'm quite sure I have finally done the RIGHT step and I shall never regret it. Long story short, I'm the Happiest and the Luckiest man on earth with these two huge achievements and I promise I shall improve that in 2012 :) I'd like to show my appreciation to each and every member of this amazing family ... no doubt Lubuntu is my second family. Thank you and I'm so much proud to be with you :) Special thanks to very special people here: Phill, Julien and Michael, you guys are amazing .. THANK YOU for everything :) May this year be much better for Lubuntu and each one of us ... God bless you all and wish you all the best in the world. Happy New Year :) I have made this little thing ... feel free to share it. Nothing much, I made it with Photoshop in few mins because I was in hurry :P http://i40.tinypic.com/5mdxe.jpg Oh yes, my 2012 will definitely be special too ;) -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp D'awww. sniff, sniff Seriously, thank YOU AJ, you've been brilliant, really supportive of me, as a mentor and friend, hope this continues for a long time yet. :D My
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: My Story in 2011
My look back on 2011? We not only survived an event that would have despatched other teams to oblivion, we, under the incredible and tenacious attitude of Julien got through it. I am not going to fall into the trap of try mentioning all those people who made 11.10 happen, every person within the lubuntu team and our ubuntu family has not only given more of themselves, asked a bit of a help, or a favour from someone during the trek for us to attain full adoption. It got tough, but Lubuntu 11.10 arrived on specification, on time and within budget! 12.04 brings new challenges. Lubuntu is ready for them, even over the 'holiday' season our IRC team are in place, the QA / testing team, our start on IRC / Wiki / Forum interaction teams have been started. As we have never lost our dev team nor artwork team, it was a case of getting the everything else into teams. Still got to get the translations team fully back up to speed. As lubuntu is a lean, mean and nimble flavour of the ubuntu family, we can be nimble. So, for 2012? Get on board, the teams are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved and you can find a list of who we all are, along with our time zones etc. at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre Here is to 2012. The team that got us from 9.04 from the very, very alpha one before I joined at about 9.10, can I say thank you. You did it, it will always remain as yeah, I made a difference. Whllst we nagged over things, we have always had a an agreement. Thank you to all of Lubuntueers, it matters not when you joined. It matters that you have. I'd like to sign off with an oft quoted comment, but for me chatting with devs and then taking the time to explain to me, a wiki / doc person .. We were all n00bs when we were born, There has been so much happen, for those with an intrest for 12.04 and beyond, you know who I mean... young people with a vision, older ones who have been there and seen it all... It will be an interesting 2004, And if I finally get the google edu system to not keep firing off every paragraph to the ML (And my apologies for it) Phillw On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote: On 31/12/11 21:27, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: Dear All, In few words, I'd like to share my story in 2011 with you all. 2011 was A CRAZY YEAR and fill of lots of things that can't be summarized. I admit it was full of screws up but TWO GREAT THINGS happened in 2011 that changed my history, present and future. In 2011, I found the real purpose and aim of my life that I shall spend my life time ... each year, month, day, minute, second and nano second praying and be very much grateful for that. The Steps that I have made in 2011, unquestionably, the best step I've ever made, period. My one and only love, you have supported me and still do ... you have never let me down and still do ... you have never given up on me and still do ... no words and nothing will express how much I'm grateful to you. *Happy New Love Year to You*3 *THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING IN MY LIFE* :) In 2011, my interest, activity, understanding and experience in Linux has grown up and it became so obvious how much I like Linux and what I'm capable to do for it. Before that, I used to like everything and anything. Was jumping here and there with no clear aim or purpose. That vanished and faded away the moment I did the second great step in 2011 and joined Lubuntu Team. I've never done something so right like that. I'm quite sure I have finally done the RIGHT step and I shall never regret it. Long story short, I'm the Happiest and the Luckiest man on earth with these two huge achievements and I promise I shall improve that in 2012 :) I'd like to show my appreciation to each and every member of this amazing family ... no doubt Lubuntu is my second family. Thank you and I'm so much proud to be with you :) Special thanks to very special people here: Phill, Julien and Michael, you guys are amazing .. THANK YOU for everything :) May this year be much better for Lubuntu and each one of us ... God bless you all and wish you all the best in the world. Happy New Year :) I have made this little thing ... feel free to share it. Nothing much, I made it with Photoshop in few mins because I was in hurry :P http://i40.tinypic.com/5mdxe.jpg Oh yes, my 2012 will definitely be special too ;) -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list:
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug in Ubiquity.
I think, by complete accident what it may be by simply editing the text on links I went to alter one of my web-links to point to SII and it came out like this when parsed by the browser... Original link = http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners Standard from my wiki, I removed ubuntu-beginners and put on sii as such http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sii This is what it was reported back to me as. (01:10:21) phillwuk: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels= ( http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners)sii Once I was aware I pulled it Xpad and edited it and reposted it, it then worked fine... I think we just need to be aware of the editing of webchat links! Regards, Phill. On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Boss, (14:39:13) MrChrisDruif: Make a link to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lubuntu in the screenshots with the installer, just like it links to the wiki and launchpad page (14:39:41) MrChrisDruif: And the bug is that the quick search is enabled again after installation (14:40:17) MrChrisDruif: Seeing we disabled it, it's a bug. (14:40:59) MrChrisDruif: phillw: ^ (14:42:25) phillw: it must pull in the additional lib function. I am guessing this needs filing against Ubiquity? Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
Hi boss, so the information for 11.10 is correct at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#A11.10 I hope! If that is correct, then adding the section for 12.04 will be a much easier task for me :) Hoping you had a good Christmas, Phill. On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: This is a quick summarise of the different type of installation, up-to-date with 11.10 : By using desktop ISO : Installation done using Ubiquity + a live session, by copying the image of the CD into the system. It's the recommend way for testing and installing Lubuntu. Note that using the live session or the Install only mode will do teh same result, just using less memory. By using alternate ISO : Installation using debian installer type. No live session available. Design to install Lubuntu on everything, especially if the Ubiquity or the live session is not supported. You can do the same with the command line, by using sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop, on a minimum Ubuntu installation (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems#Install_an_Ubuntu_command-line_system ) Minimal installation : Only on a command line system, just install the lubuntu-core by doing sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core. It should install only core components of Lubuntu + the artwork. I would suggest to also install lxdm or lightdm to have a graphical login manager. As you can see, the --no-install-recommends is not necessary since 11.10. It can be used for people who wants minimal depends, but you have to be carefull, because sometimes some recommended packages are very useful, and so not installed if you use --no-install-recommends. I don't think we need other type of installation, unless I miss a use case :) Regards, Julien Lavergne Le 12/28/2011 07:28 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit : Hi Hùng, an apology from me. We will get it updated to the alternate ISO. As we got full adoption, the builds and releases of Lubuntu having both the approved system and our older not fully approved builds. I do thank you for bringing this to our attention, we are a small team can miss things. @ Julien PCMan an older FAQ, can it be up dated, or simply point to a more recent area. @ A J await until you are better add it to the thread on the forum. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?
Hi Boss, what are the chances of getting this into the repos? Do you have time to chat with the author to get it through testing? I'll help if you tell me what I need to do. Thanks, Phill. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: El 28/12/11 15:43, A. Andjelkovic escribió: Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only watched the screencast, looked weird to me). That vs nothing i prefer that :) -- jpxsat +1 Maybe create a launcher to make it more user friendly. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?
Hi Jonathan, well at least it was not an out right NO! To make this little wish list come true, needs a the most precious resource of all dev time. Hence my asking the boss if they had time. It really looks good, can we spare a dev to babysit it? Regards, Phill On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, at 09:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: what are the chances of getting this into the repos? It needs packaging first, before that is possible :) Obkey seems to use pyGTK 2.x, so I think we'd have a GTK2 vs GTK3 issue, unless the author is willing to update it to use PyGObject and GTK3? Other than that, it just needs packaging and documentation, as far as I can see. If it were really truly just a matter of packaging, I'd make an attempt; but I'm not about to volunteer for the related documentation- writing and porting-to-PyGObject work. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Doc/Support Request] Removal of Bluetooth
Hi Bhaskar, many thanks for that on disabling Bluetooth. It has been added to the Workarounds area https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds @ A J - it will need adding to your mega thread on the forum. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Bhaskar Kandiyal bkandi...@gmail.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On Monday 26 December 2011 06:52 PM, A. Andjelkovic wrote: Hi list, As I was looking around the web for a way to remove/disable bluetooth completely, as the BIOS of the machine can't do it for some reason (I rather not flash it). I noticed that there were no good documentation regarding this issue, neither on our own wiki[1], help.ubuntu[2], or arch's wiki[3]. So I shamefully ask if someone could provide their expertise to document this issue? Ideas on what to cover: *Disabling bluetooth by configuration. *Removing bluetooth related packages. *Disabling the kernel module (for marginal boot time decrease, if any). Regards, Alexander. [1]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation [2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bluetooth [3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth Well, for disabling the kernel module, you can blacklist it to not load at boot time. lsmod | grep bluetooth - This will give you the bluetooth module and the other modules that require it. For me the output is: bluetooth 179900 23 rfcomm,bnep,btusb You will have to blacklist these modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist So add the following lines to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file: blacklist rfcomm blacklist bnep blacklist btusb blacklist bluetooth And reboot. After the reboot you can check lsmod | grep bluetooth to see if it is loaded or not, if it returns empty then it's not loaded. As for the bluetooth related packages, I'm not sure maybe someone else can point out the relevant packages specific to Lubuntu as I have a lot of other packages installed as well, I believe removing bluez and bluetooth should do it. Hope this helps, cheers :) Regards, Bhaskar Kandiyal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk742SEACgkQc3l9wn9I2Ofo4ACfV0vZMxrdEgfIrPBSJFjEPIef QZgAn3HV/KN1x3Qli6pVUbv2tXxnJeoQ =KTBN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Just came from the hospital ...
Hi AJ, I'm sure I speak on behalf of all in the Lubuntu family in wishing you a speedy recovery. Anti-biotics take a while to get into the system, be patient my young friend. Hope to see you up and about soon. In the meantime, take good care. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:44 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Phill, Hope you are doing well. I just came from hospital. I did a CT-Scan and Blood Test. I have Bacterial Infection. I still need to do more test after 7 days and keep taking some anti-biotic that doesn't seem to work. Anyway, just to let you know about that plus I think I have to be offline for these days. I must get well very soon so I can do what I used to do. Take care and wish you a Happy New year :) -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person
Hi Jared, it is for that incorporation that such a team now should leave being just an entry on lp and become active :) Regards, Phill. On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 December 2011 05:31, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi gang, As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the teams back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow. A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2]. Those of you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join! Well, as they said in the Movie Blues Brothers... We're putting the band back together. It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things relating to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode. Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it is for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything 'happening' in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise any issues we, as a team, have. If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to say. A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope there are none. (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's) Regards, Phill. [1]https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unit193 [2]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Sounds fine, my main concern with IRC is how we are travelling integrating into the main ubuntu namespace on freenode. I haven't heard anything about that in a long time. I'd +1 if it meant we started making headway in this regard. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 3G icon.
Thanks boss, Dutifully reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elementary-icon-theme/+bug/909156 Oh, I hope you and your family have a good Christmas and look forward to a great new year! Regards, Phill. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: The actual package name is elementary-icon-theme, if you want to report a bug. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:41:38 +0200 Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote: Its against theme. Try another and see if it appears.Phill Whiteside kirjoitti 25.12.2011 19:39: Hi, just a quick 'paper-cut'. The good news is that the new kernel finally recognises my 3G usb-dongle. The paper cut is that when it is running, the network icon is blank. It is still there on the bar, as in I can right click on the 'space', but unlike Ethernet or Wireless there is no icon. Not sure what package this is against to file a bug. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] My story, and a big Thank-you
Hi Daniel, thank you so much for taking the time to tell your story. It is from people like you that make the entire team drive froward. You may see it as one person who's story will not make a difference... Can I assure you that people like yourself who wish to reply make all the difference in the world. It is for people like you that the team of Lubuntu realise that it all is worth while. Thank you for your kind words, you will have put a smile on many people who work hard. Certainly mine. Regards, Phill. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Daniel Ziegler d.ziegle...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I would like to tell my story about my experience with Lubuntu and the LXDE Desktop. I've been using Ubuntu since around middle 2009, on a variety of hardware-Dell P4 towers with 9.04 and 9.10, ThinkPad T23 with 10.04, custom Phenom II X4 with 10.10 thru 11.10. I loved using Ubuntu, and Linux in general over Windows XP, and was amazed with the free network tools that you can obtain. However, I had noticed that GNOME 2.x used a lot of system resources, around 380 MB of RAM on average. I didn't mind so much then. But after 11.04 introduced the new Unity interface, it threw me off and I never really adjusted to it. And GNOME 3 hasn't helped performance at all, and removed some features. I tried the KDE desktop for a while, but never really got used to it, and it seemed to use a lot of RAM also. So I became a bit frustrated, trying to find and adjust to a suitable new desktop, and finding all ate my limited RAM up quickly. I began to look at solutions such as Puppy Linux, but they didn't offer quite the same Ubuntu experience, software, and interface organization. Then I heard about Lubuntu this holiday season, after Canonical recognized it as an official project. It looked like my issues were solved, so I quickly downloaded it and started to use it. It has turned out to work great for all I need to do with a graphical desktop, and all the command line tools work of course. Plus the learning curve from GNOME 2.x to LXDE is not very steep. It uses about 180 MB of RAM, which is very reasonable. In fact, I have been able to install Lubuntu on some older computers that I would be unable to run GNOME on. This has been a great Christmas gift for me, and I would like to just say thank you to all of the LXDE developers, Lubuntu developers, and of course PCMan, who started the LXDE desktop. I will be recommending Lubuntu to everyone looking for a fast GNU/Linux distro, and look forward to using it for a long time! Thank you all again, Dan -- There's no place like ~/... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
Hi Hùng, an apology from me. We will get it updated to the alternate ISO. As we got full adoption, the builds and releases of Lubuntu having both the approved system and our older not fully approved builds. I do thank you for bringing this to our attention, we are a small team can miss things. @ Julien PCMan an older FAQ, can it be up dated, or simply point to a more recent area. @ A J await until you are better add it to the thread on the forum. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki
As you know, before we were adopted, we only had 'home spun' disks... The Full On Ubiquity was always to be the official one, but not a great deal of help for lower spec computers. The argument did go up as to why they botched a bug by requiring 2 X Ram instead of simply putting your patch in. You do not know how much this idiotic 'fix' caused, but we were not adopted at that point and could not log it as a regression. Since then the bug has remained, it does, Jared, really grate me as it was such a simple fix to bloody make and get Ubiquity running at a decent speed. To keep the peace, we were told to accept the alternate iso which does not require Ubiquity. As the Canonical team are now also trying to build PPC / Mac-Intel / ARM etc. I do ask what are the more important cases for the kernel team and also the QA / Testing team to prioritise? Julien has already made it quite clear that any group that wish support for a particular chip set Get a testing team together we will do it. No decent testing team == no support. Oh, does this sound backwards?... Until we have people to test, we simply cannot test... So go get your friends. @ QA - do tell me where I am wrong in terms of bodies to test. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just checked our Minimal Install guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall. I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With --no-install-recommends we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update Manager and Preferred Applications. As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they can't use Ubiquity. Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their desktops almost have nothing. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the other stuff anyway? I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] 3G icon.
Hi, just a quick 'paper-cut'. The good news is that the new kernel finally recognises my 3G usb-dongle. The paper cut is that when it is running, the network icon is blank. It is still there on the bar, as in I can right click on the 'space', but unlike Ethernet or Wireless there is no icon. Not sure what package this is against to file a bug. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person
Hi gang, As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the teams back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow. A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2]. Those of you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join! Well, as they said in the Movie Blues Brothers... We're putting the band back together. It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things relating to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode. Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it is for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything 'happening' in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise any issues we, as a team, have. If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to say. A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope there are none. (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's) Regards, Phill. [1]https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unit193 [2]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] QA / Testing.
Hiyas gang, Unlike the the IRC [1] area, I have not created a QA/Testing area as of yet. I am up for being our POC ... and to please explain what a POC is again.. They are our liasion between other teams and our selves. I will create a QA area if that what you wish for. I am your humble admin guy who does his best for Lubuntu. So, those who wish to register -1, please do so now. (+1's are allowed :P ) If we can get the two of these sorted out for our next meeting, it means our devs need not worry. Let us get them back doing the important stuff 1;) Regards, Phill. [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person
Hi gang, I know that I am but a lowly admin, but I challenge ANY one to kidnap / cajole / interest people in Lubuntu. I managed to bring into the IRC team another person, Chris [1] As Unit193 did ask for help, may I introduce Chris [1] Between them both and Hyperair [3], I hope my job of getting IRC team together is completed. As we await for the final vote As Julien said, it is up to you as to how the IRC team reports. You have the area [2] , get it sorted before our next full meeting. We expect to hear about your team structure. @unit chris, Argue it out... but one of you needs to take ownership of [2] :) [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif [2] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hyperair On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 8:19 PM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.comwrote: +1, he knows his IRC stuff and is friendly. Cheers, James Gifford On Dec 25, 2011, at 14:31, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi gang, As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the teams back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow. A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2]. Those of you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join! Well, as they said in the Movie Blues Brothers... We're putting the band back together. It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things relating to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode. Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it is for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything 'happening' in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise any issues we, as a team, have. If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to say. A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope there are none. (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's) Regards, Phill. [1]https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unit193 [2]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver
Thanks Julien, I always forget to disable it and then wonder why my CPU usage on my latest VM install is driving my CPU so high after about 10 minutes when I am on my 'main' system. Less is more :) Regards, Phill. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le 12/23/2011 10:16 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole system) If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the blocking screen. I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different just to block the screen? If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from Lubuntu. They are using compiz to lock the screen, so we can't use the same :) 1 thing I will change for 12.04 is to change the behavior by default, using only a blank screen instead of the animated one. It should be nicer for your type of configuration. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Merry Christmas
Hi, as we are all on different Time Zones... As I'm out for pre-Christmas drink tomorrow, may I wish all of you an excellent Christmas to you, your families and your loved ones. My warmest wishes to you all. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.
Hi guys, one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and aptitude. Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it, it's way beyond my limited expertise! Regards, Phill [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development
Already mentioned, but the cooling mats for laptops are very inexpensive. My laptop was struggling during our unusually hot summer and the usb powered mat solved the problem. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:27:21 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update. As for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux. Depending on the manafacturer therare a variety of ways of updating the BIOS. Some provide a bootable ISO which uses FreeDOS or you may be able to concoct your own using FreeDOS. http://www.freedos.org/ I've had some success with FlashROM which is available in the repos. http://flashrom.org/ Another option is to temporary install Windows if you have a copy that came with the machine, especially if the manufacturer's site has an automated tool for telling you which updates are required. Until recently I've been using a '60 day' evaluation copy of WinXP for this purpose if the above doesn't work. Sadly a lot of recent machines require Vista or Win 7 for this sort of tool. Even if the BIOS upgrade doesn't mention your problem it may well be worth updating as manufacturers don't always tell you everything the BIOS update resolves. It may also be useful to look at firmware updates for the hard drive as well. The other thing to look at is cleaning the vents, heat-sink and fan to ensure good airflow. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04
Hi Jean, it was my understanding that Lubuntu would be added to Wubi following its full adoption in 11.10. I'll go and do a bit of digging Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I would like to see in Lubuntu, is the presence of Wubi. I've wanted to show some friend/familiars/co-workers how Lubuntu rocks but the only way i get is by livecd... and they want to try it a little :) Wubi is a GREAT option for a lot of people (myself included since i have only one hard drive and original windows is installed on it ;) Is this possible? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC problems and where to report
Hi Steve, I used https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center to report the issue I had. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: Where should one report LSC bugs. I can't find any reported on Launchpad. The problems. There is a surfeit of information on some apps. eg. Penguin Taipei and other Ace-of-Penguin apps as well as others. No version number in About. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04
hi Jean-Pierre, I have had a dig around and raised a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/907524 If someone could pop on there and click on the affects me button, that will auto confirm it. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I would like to see in Lubuntu, is the presence of Wubi. I've wanted to show some friend/familiars/co-workers how Lubuntu rocks but the only way i get is by livecd... and they want to try it a little :) Wubi is a GREAT option for a lot of people (myself included since i have only one hard drive and original windows is installed on it ;) Is this possible? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04
Hi Jeremy, whilst not the biggest fan of Wubi either, it is a useful tool for a certain group of people. It certainly gives a better taste of Lubuntu than trying to run it of a LiveCD. As such, Wubi is an important option for people to try the ubuntu flavours out on a windows machine. The Wubi people do a good job of keeping it stable. regards. Phill. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 21 December 2011 15:13, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean-Pierre, I'm one of those who actually avoid Wubi. It could be helpful but the headache afterward is a lot sometimes :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650699 IMHO, one can always try another alternative but that's me and YMMV :) I'm the same way. Personally, I'd prefer if Wubi wasn't available for the main Ubuntu CD as I don't trust it to work as reliably as a normal install or even a VM. Jeremy ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2
Hi Stephen, as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong! 1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool, so I grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked. 2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted that one out). The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but double clicking on it does nothing. You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :) I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in case it is of help to you. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out! this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints. Regards Stephen Smally P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2
Hi Micheal, phillw@piglet:~$ lubuntu-software-center Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 31, in module import src.main ImportError: No module named src.main Regards, Phill. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote: On 18/12/11 13:00, Phill Whiteside wrote: Hi Stephen, as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong! 1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool, so I grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked. 2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted that one out). The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but double clicking on it does nothing. You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :) I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in case it is of help to you. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out! this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints. Regards Stephen Smally P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/L Does running lubuntu-software-center from the terminal do anything? (i.e. is it the program or the desktop icon?) -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2
Hi Micheal, Bug dutifully filed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/905953 Regards, Phill. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote: Weird. That should probably be a /, as in src/main.py Would you mind filing a bug report? On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:13:31 + Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Micheal, phillw@piglet:~$ lubuntu-software-center Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 31, in module import src.main ImportError: No module named src.main Regards, Phill. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote: On 18/12/11 13:00, Phill Whiteside wrote: Hi Stephen, as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong! 1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool, so I grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked. 2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted that one out). The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but double clicking on it does nothing. You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :) I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in case it is of help to you. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out! this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints. Regards Stephen Smally P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/L Does running lubuntu-software-center from the terminal do anything? (i.e. is it the program or the desktop icon?) -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Docs team
Hi Lubunteers, as always, an area that people just expect 'to happen', I noted that on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks#Current_Tasks_For_Anyone Lubuntu is not even mentioned. I know that we have had input into various areas in the past... Is there any one willing to take this one on as P.O.C. (Point Of Contact)? As said, I'll hold P.O.C. for the QA side, but we really do need someone to step forward for this one. Thanks, Phill -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)
Hi A. J. I've had a quick chat with a couple of people regarding advertising, the advice is to make yourself known via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdvertsStart there and see how things progress. Regards, Phill. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:20:10 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Long story short: 1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea here and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :) Join the Ubuntu marketing team and adapt their stuff and use the skills that have been developed there. Having joined the Ubuntu family I see no point in isolating ourselves from it. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Network Manager
Hi, now you can all have a good laugh :) I've finally upggraded from 9.10 Ubuntu to 11.10 Lubuntu, the problem is that my network monitor icon has vanished from my bar whilst I was re-organising things and I do not see it any where on the the list of things that should be there? As I use a 3G device at times, getting it back is quite important! now, when you've all stopped laughing, can you give me how to get the little critter back! Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Reminder : IRC meeting tomorrow 20h UTC + Agenda
Hi Julien, as always, the QA meeting is just before the Lubuntu one. Is there anything for the QA team pertaining to Lubuntu that you wish me to raise? On the plus side, I finally updated my 9.10 system to 11.04 (Lubuntu, of course) and have now got access to the Virtual Machines again for testing. Hopefully I can get back involved on testing stuff! Regards, Phill. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Just a reminder, there is a IRC meeting tomorrow, be sure to add the items you want to discuss to the agenda : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Indeed, the 1st time you zsync on an already installed ISO it goes and grabs the entire darn thing again! Better, as advised, to use zsync to grab it in the first instance. Regards, Phill. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion. I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync? Hope it's clear now :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released
Mario,
well if the cron job has been unblocked, it looks good for the future :)
Regards,
Phill.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote:
Seems like there was a cron job blocked or so, which got executed
after I updated the website. That's bad. Well, I guess we will survive
this error ;-{
Mario
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:16:11 -0300
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
El 30/11/11 13:15, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) escribió:
WUT?
Exactly my reaction!!
LOL WTF :D
By next May we should be on 11.04!
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] web mockup #1
As always Rafael, your artwork is brilliant... Fantastic clean look :) Regards, Phill. 2011/11/25 Lalatendu Mohanty then4...@yahoo.co.in On Friday 25 November 2011 06:24 PM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote: Here it os, the first mockup, using the Ubuntu drupal theme, but blue tuned. Of course, texts, images and links are fake. Just for imagining how it would look. I'll make another one without any Canonical influence, some kind KDE did, and more user friendly, direct to people, and less serious. http://i.imgur.com/6mfma.png But the goals of these webs (now mockups) will be: - very visible download button - easy navigation menu - front exposure of the product (a PC with Lubuntu installed and working) - a few sub-articles (in this case product features) - the #2 article should be the last blog post - the #3 article should be the last forum post (and no more than 3) What do you think? ...working on the #2! http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/ http://www.lubuntu.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Looks Good. I like it. Thanks a lot :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] archived iso images
Sorry for the group email, iWeb, where I used to host our ISO images got sold, the new people decided they did not want the iso's on there and deleted them all. They have 5 days to restore them, and then we have 2 days after that to retrieve any that we want to keep (such as spares of the 10.04.1 etc). I've also got to got backup all other areas as I am not happy with them going against their promise. As we are now adopted, it matters little. it was the principal that mattered. So, if there are any iso's during development that any would like to keep a hold of, now is a good time to shout :) I could really do without this... they reckoned that the iso's may contain personal information biggest cop out I've ever heard of a new company not wanting us to use disk space. Well, they have lost 2 X $7 / month for hosting as I have only used them as a temp area for two systems. To say that I am less than pleased would be not how I feel. So, can you let us know which, if any, ISO's you'd like pulling off. For me, I have insisted that they restore every single alpha and beta along with our RC's. that should could keep those idiots busy for a while :D I will update when I have gotten the new server area up and running. I am getting a temporary one like the 2G one at http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ until next March when theSII / wintermute needs a bit of beast, when it will go to the 24G one. Yeah, this was supposed to be a gradual change. both systems will be running http://www.scientificlinux.org/ so I can run virtual machines and storage for not just Lubuntu, but for all the other people and teams I try to help on. Regards, Phill. P.S. Thankfully, having your whole bottom set of teeth redrilled, with implants is a once in life time experience... But I do not need glue to hold them in :P ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin
And while we examine the fluff in our belly buttons. Can I ask once again that instead of grieving over non-pae chipsets that we instead allow our meager resources to keep 10.04 alive? This removes the issue of non-pae completely and just needs a simple edit to the wiki about the dropping of previous chipsets? As 10.04 was based on a LTS kernel for servers it has a life span of 5 years. We can then re address the problem in 2015 :) Having said that, some people are quite happy with 8.04 and see no need to upgrade - If it isn't broken don't fix it. Regards, Phill. On 19 November 2011 10:02, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com wrote: Question-probably naive, but anyway- why don't we keep an 'old kernel' package for those with older CPUs? I don't see that it would need maintenance-that's just what it is-dead weight for those who need really old machnes to work. Tell me if I'm wrong. But I vote to ditch PAE with th default kernel. Maybe have two kernels in the defult iso and some hardware detection in the installer to install the right kernel? (IDK if that's possible) On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:15:52 -0800 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 11/18/2011 11:50 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Last year they dropped support for a lot of machines, now they will drop for a lot more? A lot? How did you determine this, and can you let us know the numeric upper and lower bounds of a lot in the second phrase of this description? :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin
I think this harks back to how long we will support 10.04 for, we barely have enough people to backport to that - asking for a 2nd set of backporting may well be beyond the small number of devs we have. For me, with dropping of chipsets after 10.04, maybe we could concentrate on keeping 10.04 alive? If it were actually an LTS they could expect support until 2015, the kernel should be updated until then, but someone like Jmarsden would have to agree to issue periodic updates. JMarsden did issue a 10.04.1 release but there was little reply in terms of getting it tested. As to hosting any iso's, I remain committed to hosting the 'older' iso's for Lubuntu that were pre-adoption by Canonical stage on my server area. Regards, Phill. On 18 November 2011 17:25, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to keep an unofficial kernel for old abandoned cpus in lubuntu ppa, if there are people willing to maintain it? On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: No, it means that the CPus need to have support for PAE, it's independent of the memory. Also, the range of hardware affected is not so clear, see the thread on ubuntu-devel. I already answered that depending of the list of hardware affected, it could be a big support drop for Lubuntu. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:44:20 + Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com wrote: If I understand right, this will only affect those on said machines IF they have ~4GB RAM. Which is unlikely, considering they have Pentium IIs. But I agree, we should keep the old kernels for a bit longer. But then we throw a dilemma, where we don't get new kernels. Unless you want a kernel developer for Lubuntu. On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:39:02 +0100 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: But there're Lubuntu users on Pentium II and similar machines. In fact they're happy an OS can handle those trashy computers and make them useable. Will this affect those users? http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/ http://www.lubuntu.net/ 2011/11/18 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com I forgot to forward this mail from ubuntu-devel, it may have an impact on Lubuntu since we shared the same kernel. Regards, Julien Lavergne Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:43:28 -0700 From: Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com To: Ubuntu Kernel Team kernel-t...@lists.ubuntu.com, ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin Per discussion at UDS the kernel team is proposing to drop the non-PAE i386 flavour. The upgrade path for non-PAE users will be the PAE kernel. Those CPUs that do not have i686 and PAE support will be orphaned. To the best of my knowledge, these include Intel CPUs prior to Pentium II, 400Mhz Pentium M, VIA C3, and Geode LX. As far as I know, there are no laptop or desktop class CPUs being produced that do not meet these minimum requirements. Before I do something that is difficult to revert, I would like to hear from the development community why we should continue to maintain a kernel flavour that is (in my opinion) getting increasingly low utilization. It is my feeling that an extremely high percentage of users of the non-PAE kernel have a CPU that is PAE capable. If there is sufficient community demand (and support), I would be willing to sponsor the first non-PAE kernel upload to Universe. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/PreciseKernelConfigReview We'll be conducting a similar survey for powerpc. rtg P.S. For those of you that are totally confused by this email, PAE (Physical Address Extension) was an addition to 32 bit x86 CPUs that allowed them to address more then 4GB physical memory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension -- Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time
8 PM GMT is fine for me also. Regards, Phill. On 15 November 2011 20:03, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Chris, 12AM is great for me as I'm a Batman and don't really sleep at that time unless I'm forced to :) Thanks! On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Aloha Ali, Seeing the Fridge [1] or better put it's calender [2] already has it's 7 PM UTC slot filled did Julian suggest to take the 8 PM UTC (or GMT) slot. That would make it 12AM for you Ali. By the way, my vote is also for wednesday. With metta, Chris [1] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ [2] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 15:20, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote: I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting on the 23th. If that's 7:00pm GMT time, it means it's 11:00pm my time. My time is +4 GMT. If that's the case, I'm ok with that. I don't care about the day, all are the same to me, just the time what is important. Thanks! On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi, One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting on IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's needed. I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it less often in the future, if it's not necessary. Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and Internet connection :) I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after some time (like 3 months). I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting on the 23th. It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the schedule, so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this time. Let me know what you think about this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT
Hi amjjawad, As you will be aware, hosting for lubuntu,net has only just been gotten again. The site was exceeding the bandwidth allowance. As has been mentioned previously, please make some mock ups so that the site controller can look into how they could be implemented. Regards, Phill. On 12 November 2011 17:31, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your reply, Yorvuk :) I'm very much aware of what you wrote but what we all need to be aware is one simple fact. Lubuntu is growing bigger and if we won't be as fast as its growth, well, I'm afraid we won't be able to catch up with that. Having the said, and because I do believe in ACTIONS more than words, I'd like to inform everyone that Myself and Martin (mörgæs) are willing to help each other and start a small Marketing Team which will take care first of all about our website and that will be the very first beginning and that is exactly what Lubuntu Needs (what the website needs). I need to hear back from you ... what do you think? since everyone busy with real life, Me and Martin are willing to help with the Website. Thank you! P.S. Martin has already joined the team so: Hello and Welcome Martin to a *NEW WORLD* where *Wings* and *Speed of Light* are your basic tools to explore this astonishing, exceptional, unbelievable, remarkable and stunning master piece we do call *L*ubuntu I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net. Waiting for other people will never achieve anything, nor will threats. The lubuntu team is very small and very busy, often with real life. I haven't been able to put the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked due to real life. On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205 This guy (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075) has offered his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team about that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful. Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website, PLEASE do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website. www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS, it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all. This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it. So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do love Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what will happen if you do what others are suggesting? Now, I'm not going to reply mörgæshttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075but one of the team who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO. Thank you so much! ALL HAIL LUBUNTU! P.S. I'll inform him (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075) that I sent his post and waiting for a reply. I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net. Waiting for other people will never achieve anything, nor will threats. The lubuntu team is very small and very busy, often with real life. I haven't been able to put the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked due to real life. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT
Hi Amjjawad, for major stuff on lubuntu.net you need to speak to Mario. I have seen chats, you need to assure our team that you are in for lubuntu for the long term and not just some college / university project. Whilst this may seem harsh, so many have done it over the years teams / threads / projects have all gotten the pain of projects being abandoned. Please do not think we are being negative, just that like all F/OSS projects we have had people come and go. May I, on a personal note, also warn you against something that my mentor warned me upon. Burnout, whereby you work too many hours that cannot be sustained (which you have already pretty much said you have done), and your not wishing to have a mentor (experienced person) help you. If you run yourself to death, or just decide to leave lubuntu the Lubuntu team will have to pick up the pieces. Please, my young friend, take your time - we have seen burn out before. Regards, Phill. On 12 November 2011 20:34, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks A. Andjelkovic :) We'll start working hopefully soon and get back to you all :) On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote: *Go for it guys :). If you bring up good ideas, together with mockups, your ideas will most likely go through. We all work together and constructive criticism is important.* On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Martin Olesen skovproduk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody. Thanks for letting me join the group. I am Mörgæs from Ubuntuforums, and I have been a full-time Buntu user since 5.10. I don't expect people to understand Icelandic, so let me first of all reveal that the name means penguin - though we don't have them around here. As you may have seen already, I have some ideas for a new web site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205 I shall save you from the full explanation. You will see a demo later, as I believe in show it, don't tell it. Long story short: I am focusing on receiving the beginner having Windows background and the intermediate user having Ubuntu (but not Lubuntu) background. Also, the site should have a clear hierarchy indicating what is important to the user right here, right now, and what can be left for later. For now I just ask for an indication like yes, we would like to experiment and consider a new wording on the web side. If on the other hand the general opinion is that the site can not be improved, there is no point in going further. I expect to be working together with Amjjawad. Our scope is text and layout, and later on we would be happy to work with someone capable of graphics and illustrations. So, what do you say? Regards Mörgæs ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread
Hi lubunteers, The most important thing is that each part is up to date. The more we diverge into different areas, the more impossible this becomes. I put up to people that our official wiki area should be 1st source and all other areas should point to it. We have already had this discussion wıth lubuntu.net pointıng to out of date stuff and ıt was corrected. There is not a snow flake in hells chance for our small team to keep every area up to date. My proposal was, is and continues to be that we PRIMARILY use our wiki area that includes 'How To' and 'Work Arounds' that are pointed to as. From all the other areas, a link that is updated is silly. People bookmark them. As renewed 'How Tos' / Work arounds are placed onto the forum etc. they must be then put onto the wiki area so that we are 'all singing off the same hymn sheet' Ali is excentlally placed to both look after the forum thread has proven to be good at wiki - So I vote for hım. Having different sets of instructions / advice for people is simply going to lead to the chaos that we see generally when someone 'googles' a problem. I look forward to the replies, and, yes - we need them as to how we are going to have to decide on where we keep the MASTER set of instructions. Regards, Phıll. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote: Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top. Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate over as well. Cheers, James Gifford My personal preference is to use each segment to the best of it's ability. The help.u.c/community wiki is useful for howto guides useful to large audiences, the forums are good for one on one assistance, the mailing list usually gets help reasonably quickly, IRC is instant and AU has it's own little place. We have so many ways to contribute information to the general public, I think as long as we choose the best option for the type of information we're trying to request or present then it doesn't really matter *where* it is. -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC
As he is at UDS, it may be a couple of days before he can get a definative answer. As with all community releases, I am happy to host them on my server system. We just need the 'OK'. Regards, Phillw On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:21 AM, ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote: Before I invest much more time in it, what say you, Julien? On 11/1/11 8:18 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I have no problems mentioning it as a community build, but Julien ıs better placed to check if it would cause problems on our 'Get Lubuntu' page. Regards, Phillw On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM, maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote: i know we've talked briefly about deferring any ppc builds but i was hoping (if not for any other reason, but to help further development of the unofficial and unsupported port) to post up on the wiki my methodology to install and get current using the most current ppc build at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111011/. all in favor, say aye. all against, nay. if worse comes to worst and we'd rather not suggest ppc on the wiki, then i can always throw something on ubuntu forums but i personally tend to give more weight to the wiki than the forums. i'll add that i've been running mintppc as well and it is fantastic out of the box-- even better than debian ppc. i'm hoping to hack into the config files and see what's under the hood and see if i can't re-create it. possibly i might even be able to create an unattend file (mintppc install involves booting the debian netboot cd and issuing auto url=mintppc.org at the yaboot prompt) to make things even easier. if anyone's interested at least! lastly, is there anything i can do to help with the ppc builds? despite canonical's lack of support for ppc, it is the perfect platform for a lightweight linux like lubuntu, so i'm motivated to help make it happen. wxl/walter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC
I have no problems mentioning it as a community build, but Julien ıs better placed to check if it would cause problems on our 'Get Lubuntu' page. Regards, Phillw On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM, maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote: i know we've talked briefly about deferring any ppc builds but i was hoping (if not for any other reason, but to help further development of the unofficial and unsupported port) to post up on the wiki my methodology to install and get current using the most current ppc build at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111011/. all in favor, say aye. all against, nay. if worse comes to worst and we'd rather not suggest ppc on the wiki, then i can always throw something on ubuntu forums but i personally tend to give more weight to the wiki than the forums. i'll add that i've been running mintppc as well and it is fantastic out of the box-- even better than debian ppc. i'm hoping to hack into the config files and see what's under the hood and see if i can't re-create it. possibly i might even be able to create an unattend file (mintppc install involves booting the debian netboot cd and issuing auto url=mintppc.org at the yaboot prompt) to make things even easier. if anyone's interested at least! lastly, is there anything i can do to help with the ppc builds? despite canonical's lack of support for ppc, it is the perfect platform for a lightweight linux like lubuntu, so i'm motivated to help make it happen. wxl/walter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] DNS troubleshooting basics (was: www.lxde.org is down!)
Or, of course, we could always choose to use a decent DNS provider! I do not mind paying the 15 bucks per year to pop it onto the provider I use. Regards, Phill. On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: On 10/25/2011 03:36 PM, Ali Linx wrote: Network Error (dns_server_failure) Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server. ... Here is how to troubleshoot this kind of issue: (1) Use dig +nssearch to find out the nameservers for the domain: dig lxde.org +nssearch This should return information on the reachability of each registered nameserver for the domain, and the DNS serial number of the information it contains. Unfortunately, for lxde.org, I get currently connection timed out; no servers could be reached, which indicates a significant problem. To see what kind of information you get when things are working correctly, try dig lubuntu.net +nssearch (1B) Since that lookup for lxde.org totally failed (!), use whois to determine what the listed nameservers for the domain are, instead: whois lxde.org This returns a bunch of information, including: Name Server:LINUX3.CC.NTU.EDU.TW Name Server:NS1.XINH.ORG Name Server:NS2.XINH.ORG Name Server:DNS.LXDE.ORG So, now we know the four authoritative nameservers for lxde.org, according to whois. (Note: when changes are being made, whois information can be up to 24 hours behind reality; if nameserver information from dig +nssearch and whois is different, info from dig is much more likely to be correct). (2) Check each of the authoritative nameservers in turn, to see if they are working, and whether they return the correct (expected) result for the site you are trying to access: dig @linux3.cc.ntu.edu.tw www.lxde.org. That gets me a SERVFAIL response and no A record. Strike one! dig @ns1.xinh.org www.lxde.org. That gets me a connection timed out; no servers could be reached. Strike two! dig @ns2.xinh.org www.lxde.org. That also gets me a connection timed out; no servers could be reached. Strike three! dig @dns.lxde.org www.lxde.org. This gets me a dig: couldn't get address for 'dns.lxde.org': not found. None of the specified authoritative DNS servers for the lxde.org zone are working. In case it is not obvious: this is really bad and needs fixing. (3) Fortunately, some cached DNS information does still exist out there, on other public DNS servers, for example dig @8.8.8.8 www.lxde.org. returns an CNAME and A record: www.lxde.org. 47028 IN CNAME start.lxde.org. start.lxde.org.47028 IN A 210.240.39.201 This info looks like it will expire in 47028 seconds, which is about 13 hours... unless the Google DNS server (8.8.8.8) has better connectivity to the official DNS servers for lxde.org than I have. BOTTOM LINE: At least for now, anyone using Google's public DNS servers will still be able to access www.lxde.org. Anyone using their own caching DNS server that does not yet have lxde.org information cached in it, or using their ISPs DNS server that does not yet have lxde.org information cached in it, will *not* be able to look up the IP address for www.lxde.org and so will be unable to browse to that site. POSSIBLE FIXES: If it would be useful, I would be happy to run DNS for lxde.org on one or two small DNS servers under my control, at no cost. They run DNS for only a couple of hundred domains or so, and so far are a lot more reliable than the current lxde.org DNS servers seem to be :) Currently they each run a different version of BSD, and are completely independent in terms of power and network connectivity (they are located on opposite coasts of the USA). I vaguely remember offering this once before, and there was some reason why it didn't make sense to do it...? Jonathan PS. Just for fun: note that even the mighty Google can't work around completely broken or missing information: dig @8.8.8.8 dns.lxde.org returns a SERVFAIL, and does not return an A record. Looking up start.lxde.org in the same way fails similarly. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New member, Michael Rawson
Welcome to the little part of the world we call madness, enjoy yourself and get to know us all at the two IRC areas. Regards, Phillw On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys! I'm a new member, recruited by amjjawad (you probably know him!). Just like to say hello, and what a great new interface you have. (hey, graphic designers, good job there!) Wiki page with contact details and things here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/** MichaelRawson https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MichaelRawson. Hope to help shortly, I have modest coding and packaging skills and like writing documentation. -- Sent from a linux laptop! __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: End of support for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Netbook and ARM - 2011/10/29
Hi guys, does this affect our backporting of stuff to the 10.04 release? Thanks, Phill. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kate Stewart kate.stew...@ubuntu.com Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM Subject: End of support for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Netbook and ARM - 2011/10/29 To: ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: ubuntu-rele...@lists.ubuntu.com Ubuntu announced the 10.04 Netbook Edition and Ubuntu for ARM products 18 months ago, on April 29, 2010. At that time, Ubuntu committed to ongoing security and critical fixes for a period of 18 months for these specific products. This support period is now ending, and on October 29, 2011 the 10.04 Netbook Edition and Ubuntu for ARM products will no longer be supported. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop and Server products continue to be supported. The upgrade path from Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook and ARM is to Ubuntu 10.10. Instructions and caveats for the upgrade may be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for Desktop and Server products continues to be actively supported with security updates and select high-impact bug fixes. All announcements of official security updates for Ubuntu releases are sent to the ubuntu-security-announce mailing list, information about which may be found at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce. Since its launch in October 2004 Ubuntu has become one of the most highly regarded Linux distributions with millions of users in homes, schools, businesses and governments around the world. Ubuntu is Open Source software, costs nothing to download, and users are free to customise or alter their software in order to meet their needs. Kate Stewart, Ubuntu Release Manager -- ubuntu-announce mailing list ubuntu-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts
I have queried about why this suddenly happened, but am still awaiting a reply. I proposed 2 courses of action, either they correct the bug (my preferred one), or we have to manually rename the pages (a royal pain in the neck!). Regards, Phill. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu (click on Document and Help) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu (click on Lubuntu Documentation) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation Not sure what link you mean? If you are talking about this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community There was no link for Lubuntu since beginning (UserDocumentation (last edited 2011-08-18 20:20:58 by manzdagratianohttps://launchpad.net/%7Emanzdagratiano )) Yes. that is what I was talking about. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts
Hi Leszek, would you be so kind as to update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts Thanks, Phill. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote: Am 17.10.2011 23:37, schrieb Gabriel Salles: There are some people in Brazil asking me that too.. Gabriel Salles 2011/10/17 vanyok van...@gmail.com Hello everybody, Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website. There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts, links or whatever)? Thank you! Best regs, Ivan aka vanyok For the Screencasts note that they are still available. See : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11356081postcount=5 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts
Hi Mario, Were you hosting these directly on lubuntu.net or were they just pointers to a different area (I think it was the latter), if it is the former then I can pop them on my server whilst the new hosting system is brought on-line and update the help area of our wiki. If the latter then I can get the wiki updated pretty quickly. In both cases I need to get the topics links. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.comwrote: There are some people in Brazil asking me that too.. Gabriel Salles 2011/10/17 vanyok van...@gmail.com Hello everybody, Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website. There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts, links or whatever)? Thank you! Best regs, Ivan aka vanyok ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
As ever, Julien, you give wise council. Again, as ever, you are minded the same as myself so your proposal gets a +1 from me. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit : I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join. LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install directory, which are Ubuntu specific. When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it. But for now, this will cause more trouble than good things. Regards, Julien Lavergne [1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Autostart bug
Hi Rob, this seems to be the behaviour being shown at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/873756 It may be worth adding your comments and marking it as 'affects me' so you can track its progress. Regards, Phill. On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Rob maki...@gmail.com wrote: If one updates the autostart file in folder /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu and add an entry, say @leafpad %f, when on logs in again one get two sessions of leafpad not one. @lxpanel --profile Lubuntu @xscreensaver -no-splash @xfce4-power-manager @pcmanfm --desktop --profile lubuntu @/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/**polkit-gnome-authentication-**agent-1 @leafpad %f __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet
do check any designs out with Canonical Copyright department ... yeah, sad,, but they do have one. Not for us, but to stop people stealing stuff. http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicyAs you ask, tell them to get the page updated to include Lubuntu :P Oh, if they were so not oooh, we cannot do that until 11.10 is accepted, such things could have been resolved months ago. I Soo love councils, if it were them we'd be lucky to get approved by 37.12. How Ubuntu will fare when our SABDFL goes up stairs and joins the one from Apple, who knows. Regards, Phill. On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: El 14-10-2011 16:46, 神癒礁湖 escribió: Yep, sorry, sent thumbnail only. Here's real sized: http://i.imgur.com/7OYOl.png And here are the others, traditional Lubuntu style: cover: http://i.imgur.com/XFRt1.png disc: http://i.imgur.com/zcfhK.png scribe: http://i.imgur.com/mLLh6.png Cheers! -- [image: Go to rafaellaguna.com] http://lubuntublog.rafaellaguna.com [image: Go to Lubuntu.net] http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp If we must vote, I go for the Lubuntu-ish style :) (it's nicer and Rafael it's right about canonical) Just a doubt, how I can make a nice Lubuntu CD with lightscribe?? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw image/pngimage/pngimage/png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Personal stuff.
hi, I've been off for a few days, hopefully after the weekend I will be better in my self. I'll let you all know what decisions I've made about monday. sorry for not being to hand at release date, but things escalated beyond by own control. Thank-you to those who took up the scary bit of moving 11.10 from test to live on docs. Again, I've only had a little time to tidy up a few things that were flagged to me to be checked. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] The new direction for lubuntu
Hi Jono, your favourite pain in the neck. you wrote a brilliant article on meeting crossroads on your views at http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/ For anyone who has not read it and understood it, the remainder of this will be meaningless. For ubuntu in general, we are loosing really good people. I'm sure you'd like to know why (19:52:20) x sort of been drifting to Fedora , where I can be nameless (19:52:37) phillw: I have a problem with councils... I'll say it straight. A camel is a two humped beast that has a bad attitude comittee devlopment of a ourse. (19:53:28) xx: Well, I do not think highly of #ubuntu, horrible channel, all manor of bad un-ubuntu behavior there (19:53:31) phillw: As you konw, I'm going to take the RHCE exam, so already have fedora on one of my VM's (19:53:39) xx: And the CC is almost hand picked (19:54:00) x: They take a list of candidates, and select the ones they want to run (19:54:30) phillw: Thank you for being so honest. I made my views clear in the recent ubuntu questionaire. (19:54:42) x: You have to be a serious brown nose if you want to raise up in the Ubuntu ranks, has nothing to do with competence (19:55:09) x: If I did not enjoy the forums, and a few friends on IRC, I would not be active with Ubuntu at all =) (19:55:24) phillw: I'd lol, if it were not for the fact they are driving people away. (19:55:29) xx: I do not like LP, #ubuntu, or the CC (19:55:50) xx: +1 for driving people away, good people (19:56:21) xx: That is why Ubuntu is a gateway OS, it is very easy for new users, but many people migrate to another option after 12-18 months (19:57:03) phillw: At least is not just me seeing that. and also why I REALLY do not want lubuntu to fall to 'council'. (19:58:01) xx: Well, if you think about it, you either have to fall under the CC or change your name (19:58:03) xxx: your choice (19:58:17) x: I went with name change -- This, very experienced person should be listened to. From others I have been asked to go to debian areas etc. Jono, one thing from all of this is 'councils', if you wish to chat quietly we can discuss. One thing lubuntu has not got is a council, the other council people are circling like vultures to add lubuntu to their list of domains. It is actually quite abhorrent on the ubuntu-irc-council area. Of all team areas that I have ever asked for help as lubuntu grew... they said no. That made me take a step back re consider things... Then I realised that we are actually leaking good, dedicated people. And I also realised why lubuntu actually got there... We don't have a council, we do not vote people up on popularity competitions. We do not if you vote for me, I'll vote for you which sees the same people on so many 'councils' - How are they representative of the people who: 1) use it 2) support it. For a council to state that lubuntu could not have its OP's agreed to, when we do not need them is beyond a joke proves what little use they are. We had, and have a great IRC area long before they appeared do we need a council? No, we do not. We are self governing. We have our discussions on the mailing list and decide upon things. Then the Devs tell us which ones we can have; whether programmes, new features, new art-work etc. Councils? Badges?... I say no, in the early days, we held a vote and said NO. I really do think that ubuntu in all flavours should be given back to those who use it no more the 'behind the doors, closed, committee meetings'. As ever, thanks for reading - I look forward to your comments. Regards, Phill. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last information before the release
I'll do my best for isos, I'm limited as it takes hours to download, any priorities yeah,, i386 . i686 variants only, we have a guy begging for ppc... Not default, but I do not think it is impossible. @all please do try click off the tests, we REALLY need them. Regards, Phill. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Just a reminder, release of Lubuntu 11.10 is still panned for Thursday (did I say it already ? :p) With the testing still in progress (see http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/lubuntu/all), there is also a couple of information we will provide on release day. There is the official announcement : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.10 There is also the release notes : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/OneiricOcelot It's still drafts, but if you have comments to add, let me know (before Thurday ;)) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release
Ali, we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people will not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year (release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers. It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders; every seeder makes a difference for the better. I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) ) Regards, Phill. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync But it always gets stuck some where like: #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA ^C ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA ^C 21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA 22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA 22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA ^C and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over again. I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently, it's not :( On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :) Pre-release images are available for testing on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation and testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO itself. But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release updates. I maintain the list of current known bugs here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if other bugs should be in. We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can celebrate it :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release
Hi Ali, you will not see pre-release versions on torrents. The final QA testing is the most critical part. It is when the few say that it is ready for the many. After that all the fireworks start. Doing installs of QA releases is a lot more important than people realise. I'm happy that you are going to try the QA version. As Julien said, if you have a bug SHOUT (But please do check the known ones before you raise a new one). Regards, Phill. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Phill, Sure thing. I just founded it (zsync) so interesting to try, thus I tired it but it was so slow and I understand now why is that. Yes, I always think that seeding and using torrent is much better but as you said, we are begging people to use that but we can't force them, apparently. This is the page I found: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6772 However, I can't see any torrent here. I stopped the upgrade (zsync) and will go for downloading and as usual, will do that on my both test PCs. I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) ) Sorry, I did not get that? On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ali, we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people will not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year (release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers. It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders; every seeder makes a difference for the better. I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) ) Regards, Phill. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync But it always gets stuck some where like: #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA ^C ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA ^C 21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA 22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA 22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA ^C and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over again. I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently, it's not :( On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi, Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :) Pre-release images are available for testing on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation and testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO itself. But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release updates. I maintain the list of current known bugs here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if other bugs should be in. We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can celebrate it :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Installer issues with PPC Ocelot
Hi QA, for my limited knowledge, this seems like a problem in the build engine as it is affecting both lubuntu ubuntu. I had previously pointed the OP to the bug affecting the 'mirror' problem. Should this be filed against Ubiquity or the build system, or something else? I'm certain that he would than happy to provide further information on what the system is doing etc if asked. @ Walter, as you can see, I've asked the QA team to issue guidance as to where best to report the problem. Thanks for taking the time to report the issue, I hope to have good news for you soon. Regards, Phill. -- Forwarded message -- From: Walter Lapchynski carsrcoffin...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:12 PM Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installer issues with PPC Ocelot To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net I was SO excited to see Lubuntu on Canonical with an Ocelot version. My 12 PowerBook G4 has been waiting forever for this. Unfortunately, installation isn't going well. Desktop installer needed a bunch of upgrades (including to pygobject which caused an error) and then failed because of a supposedly fixed error in choose-mirror where mirror is the default rather than ports.ubuntu.com. This error IS fixed in x86 Ocelot but not in PPC. Standard Ubuntu PPC Ocelot has the same issue, so this is not just Lubuntu. I have tried to run Ubiquity without the network connection and yet still the installer attempts to download packages. I tried the alternate install CD and it boots fine, but when it comes to detecting the cdrom, it fails. The BusyBox shell fails to reveal mention of the cdrom anywhere: syslog, dmesg, /proc, /dev, etc. I tried to try again many times over to no avail. Interestingly, the latest Debian Squeeze PPC small CD, which I believe has the same installer, has no problems detecting the cdrom. So I don't know where to go next but I'm hoping that maybe the choose-mirror fix can be applied to the PPC version or that perhaps there may be some config file (like sources.list but for choose-mirror) I could manually edit. Ideas? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Extend desktop across dual monitors -- a feature I would like to see in Lubuntu 12.xx
It was mooted is on the 'wish list'... However, as stated on http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=84 it does not work for everyone, so advising caution telling people that they are 'on thier own' is the best for now. Regards, Phill. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.comwrote: Actually I believe that this option should be added to the LxRandr. Thanks for sharing the link... I will use it on future... =] Gabriel Salles ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Website and Facebook Page
Okies, without starting a war... I am also an admin for lubuntu,net, as are a couple of others. I am sure that if you provide a mock-up, or even just information we will look at it. what you may not be aware of is once lubuntu becomes assimilated by the ubuntu community, we do want to actually have a Lubuntu area. This is a difficult balancing act; we are asking to be fully adopted, yet slightly seperate. For those eager to change things, may (for the 1st time ever) I counsel caution. We have discussed making our web area a source, but as a part of the Canonical umbrella we have done as much as we can. For those looking at it, you will not see it. But things like tracking from the web area directly to the wiki area was an important thing to happen. It means that we need need to keep only one area up to date for instructions etc. Wiki's provide information... a good web presence gets people joining. The links have been done, if any of you want to make a mock-up of how you would like to see the page displayed, please do so. @Rafael... I am sure that Mario would have no hesitation on the icons / glyphs. I'm not a guy who knows about the finer points of editing that area, for me the actual system chosen is a nightmare! Mainly owing to the fact me and others have difficulty in navigating around the admin area. But, this is usual as each system has a different admin control panel! Ali, please be patient, I do see your work on the areas and I'm sure you will be a great addition to the lubuntu team. Just learn to be patient, get to know people. Most importantly of all, do not burn out, whereby you give all your attention to lubuntu and then get tired. We need people who will still be here in 3 - 5 years time. It has taken this long to get here, you are joining us as we get goal #1. To those who are patient, come the rewards. Regards, Phill. 2011/10/5 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com Yep, think so. I'm asking about it a few time ago. I'd like to change the buttons, colours and other things to match corporative image (Canonical people told me we were a bit lazy, I told them we were a bit alone). I have made some graphics for it, so, if you have time I can send it to you to upgrade them also (among CMS content, of course). Another thing is the necessary update of the CMS theme for matching Ubuntu / Canonical ones but blue-tuned. I heared about a template working out there. PS. Isn't Mario Behling the admin? http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/ http://www.lubuntu.net/ 2011/10/5 Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com Hello everyone, I'd like to offer my help to update both www.lubuntu.net and https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428 but I have no idea who is in charge of both sites at the moment? I have noticed that Lubuntu Website never get updated on daily or weekly basis and same goes to Lubuntu Facebook Page. I have asked before about who is in charge of the Facebook Page but no one has replied yet. I understand everyone is so busy at the moment but I just thought to offer my help. That is all. If this request will cause confusion and delay of any on going process, PLEASE IGNORE IT. Thanks as always! -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw b3.pngb2.pngb1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu-desktop installed in Ubuntu
Hi Ali, I've replied to both threads pointing them to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu We know it works :) As to what Synaptic may do, my guess is a an issue with the no install-recommends, as that would bring in a load of stuff not needed. The build system will be different for 11.10, but I do not think the 'add lubuntu via synaptic' has progressed beyond the Yeah, it would be nice stage. Adding multiple systems on top of each other can throw up all sorts of odd things. If you have a read of the articles at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php written by one of the main forum mods, it is an excellent resource. IMHO, for those who wish to boot different systems then I have a seperate /home partition. Provided you keep you the two (or more) variants up to date, you can share this /home as a seperate partition. To be honest, such questions are not for beginners, it can get a bit more involved keeping things in synch. The information is there :) Lubuntu, just as Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc. does not have a seperate forum area. People are asked, however, to use the tags stating which variant they are using, this makes it easier for everyone. We can find them others can see that it is a lubuntu question and not try to give them an answer that works on, say, gnome! Regards, Phill. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, As always, while I was searching Ubuntu Forum, I found these two threads: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846382 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11290366 I'd like you to have a look at these two and then please read my suggestions: 1- The Wiki Pages need be checked for any confusing instructions. We need to keep in mind that many new users will read that and most of them if not all have no experience to fix what might go wrong. I don't mind to do that job but I'm so busy with Testing Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 right now and can't find time for Wiki Pages beside I must be familiar with it first. *IMHO, installing a Desktop on the top of another Desktop is not good idea but that's me.* 2- Before I go further with these two threads and provide more instructions, I'm open to your suggestions here :) 3- When we'll have Sub-Forum for Lubuntu on Ubutnu Forum? Thank you! -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Light mockup 2
looks nice and clean to me :) Regards, Phill. On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: excusme, this is the right mockup ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 released
Hi Ali, to get LSC, you need to add the lubuntu-desktop ppa. * http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu oneiric *to your repositry. Now, if like me, the gpg key fails manually add it using the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/KeyServerInformationOnce you refresh Synaptics, lubuntu-software-center will be available to you :) Regards, Phill. On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien and everyone, I have decided to download and install Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 and test it on my Two PCs (P4 each but one with 2GB and the other with 512MB RAM but I decided to use only 256MB RAM for this test). I'm done with the installation on PC1 and will install it later on PC2. I'm writing this from Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 and so far I'm happy with it :) Two Qs: 1) If I want to send my notes regarding my tests, can I do that here on this email? or start a new one and send it to lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net ?? 2) Where is Lubuntu Software Center? can't find it??!! Thanks! On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 2 is also available for testing. You can find it on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-2/ A quick summary of important changes since Beta 1 : * Bug fixes. Know issues : * Include apt-xapian-index : http://pad.lv/798437 * Installer require 4.6 Gb of free space : http://pad.lv/819538 * Ubiquity broken icon switcher : http://pad.lv/830898 * Update icons on desktop for persitent mode broken : http://pad.lv/837470 * Firefox locales installed : http://pad.lv/820056 * Fallback icons on notification area broken : http://pad.lv/819542 and http://pad.lv/820080 * Not able to install virtualbox drivers after installation from desktop ISO : http://pad.lv/854995 * Entries with Lubuntu are not translated on the boot menu on any Lubuntu ISO : http://pad.lv/855977 Happy testing Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [Question #172161]: mailing list archive for Lubuntu stopped at 20th Sept
I've marked it as answered, we just be patient :) Regards, Phill. -- Forwarded message -- From: William Grant question172...@answers.launchpad.net Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [Question #172161]: mailing list archive for Lubuntu stopped at 20th Sept To: phi...@vpolink.com Your question #172161 on Launchpad itself changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/172161 Status: Open = Answered William Grant proposed the following answer: The archiver seems to be overloaded at the moment, stuck reprocessing some very large lists. Hopefully it will clear the backlog in a day or two and be back to normal. -- If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us know that it is solved: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/172161/+confirm?answer_id=1 If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the following page to enter your feedback: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/172161 You received this question notification because you asked the question. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC
Hi Stephen, I popped 11.10 on to a VM with 256MB RAM and ran the following rather unscientific tests At rest, with just LXTerminal and top running: Mem Used = 214 MB, Swap Used = 0 MB With Synaptics Package Manager running: Mem Used = 244 MB, Swap Used = 10 MB With LSC Running: Mem Used = 245 MB, Swap Used = 6MB I rebooted the VM between running Synaptic and LSC as when you quit either not all the memory returns to the pool. I'm guessing both load libraries which remain. IMHO, LSC is certainly not a memory hog compared to Synaptic :) Well done! A polished GUI for newcomers that does eat up memory! Keep it mean, lean and keen :) Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 released
hi Julien, the lp mail archiving system appears to be 'down'. I've manually copied the below information to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing But I have no idea who to ask about the problem with the mail archiving. Regards, Phill. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 2 is also available for testing. You can find it on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-2/ A quick summary of important changes since Beta 1 : * Bug fixes. Know issues : * Include apt-xapian-index : http://pad.lv/798437 * Installer require 4.6 Gb of free space : http://pad.lv/819538 * Ubiquity broken icon switcher : http://pad.lv/830898 * Update icons on desktop for persitent mode broken : http://pad.lv/837470 * Firefox locales installed : http://pad.lv/820056 * Fallback icons on notification area broken : http://pad.lv/819542 and http://pad.lv/820080 * Not able to install virtualbox drivers after installation from desktop ISO : http://pad.lv/854995 * Entries with Lubuntu are not translated on the boot menu on any Lubuntu ISO : http://pad.lv/855977 Happy testing Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Mailing List Archive
Hi, well, to cut a long story short... it stopped working 20th Sept. It has now been reported... reporting a bug about launch pad via launch pad is something I have now 'sort of' learned how to do. Thanks to the kind micahg on the bug-squad who got it converted into the correct format for the LP people to be made aware of. micahg apologised for the 'standard' reply he said it was a grease monkey automatic reply :P But, the bug is now queued at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/172161 awaiting action. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Beta 2
Crikey, you guys are mad keen... Yes, the beta 2 has left the QA section and onto http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-2/ however, before you all go posting duplicates of bugs, would you please allow Julien to make the official announcement with the release notes? Julien has been mad busy as it went through the QA stage, please give him a little time to sleep and get the official announcement out with the all important notes. Once he officially announces it and the notes, I will update the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing area. For those who really like the 'cutting edge', why not get involved at the QA stage? Details are on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#QA_testing_of_Milestone_releases area. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up
I can confirm... I'm sure they'll get it sorted :) On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Thought I should share what I'm doing ;^) --- On *Mon, 9/19/11, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Subject: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up To: Jean-Baptiste Lallement jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:53 AM Sorry to be the constant nuisance that I know I am ;^( When I click on the Lubuntu test image links I just get: No image found for this build I'm beginning from the new build notification in my mailbox. During Beta 1 testing I just used the corresponding daily images and made sure to mention exactly what image I was using, but can we fix this? As always I appreciate all you do. I know you're facing many difficult tasks. Many thanks in advance, Lance ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up
Ah, it appears they're not due until Tuesday :) Oneiric Beta 2 is due this week and the first candidates will be ready for testing on the ISO tracker starting from tomorrow, Tuesday, 20 (for the impatient, they are already there for smoke testing). Regards, Phill. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: I can confirm... I'm sure they'll get it sorted :) On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Thought I should share what I'm doing ;^) --- On *Mon, 9/19/11, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Subject: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up To: Jean-Baptiste Lallement jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:53 AM Sorry to be the constant nuisance that I know I am ;^( When I click on the Lubuntu test image links I just get: No image found for this build I'm beginning from the new build notification in my mailbox. During Beta 1 testing I just used the corresponding daily images and made sure to mention exactly what image I was using, but can we fix this? As always I appreciate all you do. I know you're facing many difficult tasks. Many thanks in advance, Lance ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up
Hi Lance, The test for alternate is certainly there. I'm grabbing the i386 alternate as it is the alternates we have had some teething problems with. So, for all of you who have a bit of hard drive available, please head over to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#QA_testing_of_Milestone_releases grab one, test it and report as per the qa section. Then we have a nice beta 2's to release :) Regards, Phill. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Got this update from jibel :^) I'll test accordingly. Lance --- On *Mon, 9/19/11, Jean-Baptiste Lallement jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com*wrote: From: Jean-Baptiste Lallement jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up To: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 2:28 PM Hey, On 09/19/2011 06:53 PM, Lance wrote: Sorry to be the constant nuisance that I know I am ;^( No worries :) When I click on the Lubuntu test image links I just get: No image found for this build I'm beginning from the new build notification in my mailbox. During Beta 1 testing I just used the corresponding daily images and made sure to mention exactly what image I was using, but can we fix this? I fixed the path for alternate images which was wrong. There has been a problem building the desktop images. I requested a new build. New images should be available in the next couple of hours. As always I appreciate all you do. I know you're facing many difficult tasks. Many thanks in advance, Many thanks for all the testing you're doing. That's much appreciated. Lance -- Jean-Baptiste irc: jibel ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Up coming adoption
Hi, as ever, we approach full adoption with the mass off a run-away train. Nothing can stop us now :) But, as ever, there are finer points and sub clauses to be met. One being IRC. The majority of you will be blissfully unaware that the ubuntuIRCouncil have had access to #lubuntu as OP's. They now ask that The current list of core channels is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope - the concept core channel is defined there as well. Now that Lubuntu will be an official Ubuntu derivative, the related support and offtopic channels should be added there. As you say above, the channels have pretty much everything set already. The biggest change that I can quickly think of is that #lubuntu operators should join #ubuntu-ops and idle there once Lubuntu becomes official. -- Juha Siltalahttp://ubuntu.com The alteration being that those who are OP on #lubuntu do auto-join the #ubuntu-ops area and be recognised. If any one wants to chicken out having OP status on #lubuntu, now is the time to squeal. In three days time I will pass on our list to the ubuntu-irc people for them all to be acknowledged. (He did say idle... it is a case of just being there and flying the flag, although we who know DE know that we can be asked onto areas to help out). Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] A request for a spare laptop
Hi, I know i'm stretching the mailing list, but I ask that those in USA please have a search through their attics, cellars etc. A young and gifted programmer had his laptop die. He is head of dev on an upstream project that involves AI. As he is a student from not one of the most affluent areas of USA I have tried repeatedly to get him a replacement laptop. He asks for * The specs are frivolous; ive lived on 16 gb of space for so long. A decent 100gb would be luxurious. Also, at least 2gb ram and CPU clocking speed of 2.20ghz would be cool, those are my typical working conditions. * Just to prove this is not a scam as I do know Jacky and the work he does with Dante on SII, I am more than willing to pay for the carriage. I'm sure one of you in USA will be able to source one for him. If you want a few $$'s for your old laptop, then I will also pay for that. Thanks, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] R: Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb'
Hi, chm are 'Microsoft' formatted help files. The program I use to read them is at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-view-chm-microsoft-compiled-html-help-files-in-ubuntu.html (I use the gnome one). Alterantively you can convert them to pdf (I've never tried this) using http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-chm-files-to-html-or-pdf-files.html http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-chm-files-to-html-or-pdf-files.html Regards, Phill. On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Arief Rachman br41...@gmail.com wrote: They're files with extension .chm and .pdb. They're not .doc files. --Original Message-- From: eco.st...@fastwebnet.it To: br41...@gmail.com To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net ReplyTo: eco.st...@fastwebnet.it Subject: R: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb' Sent: Sep 11, 2011 23:34 what kind of files are they? what kind of apps had generates them? you h ave to look at some apps similar to the original (e.g. if i have .doc fi le generated by microsoft word office, an office app will probably open it). Regards Stephen Smally Messaggio originale Da: br41...@gmail.com Data: 11/09/2011 18.17 A: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Ogg: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read #39;chm#39; and #39;pdb#3 9; I'm a newbie and I really love my new lubuntu. But I have some problems here. I can't open my 'chm' and 'pdb' files. Is there any I can do? Woul d you give me favor? Thank. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] R: Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb'
pdb seems to be the file extension used by PDA's.. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/plucker.1.html has details on plucker which can read these. Again, I have not tried it but it is the official man pages so, hopefully, will work :) Regards, Phill. On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:34 PM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: what kind of files are they? what kind of apps had generates them? you h ave to look at some apps similar to the original (e.g. if i have .doc fi le generated by microsoft word office, an office app will probably open it). Regards Stephen Smally Messaggio originale Da: br41...@gmail.com Data: 11/09/2011 18.17 A: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Ogg: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read #39;chm#39; and #39;pdb#3 9; I'm a newbie and I really love my new lubuntu. But I have some problems here. I can't open my 'chm' and 'pdb' files. Is there any I can do? Woul d you give me favor? Thank. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Poll] Community Wallpapers
Hi Ali, as with all things how do I get involved, please head over to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved that has information on getting in touch with the various teams within Lubuntu. glad to see you are still keen to get involved :) Regards, Phill. On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Please excuse my question but is there any chance for me to contribute in this? can I create some wallpapers or that's not possible? I'm not professional designer but I'd like to do my best for Lubuntu. Thank you! On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:35 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote: I will contact the artists (again) and try to get them to change their licenses. In the future we'll have clearer guidelines for the Flickr submissions. On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Le 25/08/2011 20:47, A. Andjelkovic a écrit : Natty Bug by John Baer Lubuntu Moth by John Baer Glass beauty by pr09studio Lubuntu Blue Wallpaper with Logo by llelectronics2k Clarity by Foolish-fox Lubuntu Blue by leogg! All these artists have been informed and hopefully there won't be any licencing issues. Unfortunately, the images have still license issues : According to the flickr pages, the following images uses CC BY-SA 2.0, but only the 3.0 should be use for Debian and Ubuntu repository : - http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_baer/5245681052/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_baer/5272215959/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/leogg/5518421640/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/57611107@N04/5358665512/ The last one doesn't seems to use an open license : - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pr09studio/5270591203/ Unless it's fixed, we can't include them. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, A.J amjjawad http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad https://launchpad.net/~amjjawad ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hi everyone, YES, I do take on what everyone says :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/TestingSeveral hours re-working it and re-phrasing / moving / deleting / adding to it. I've asked the QA team to check that I am factually correct, as that is my 1st priority. As to the layout - feel free to complain / nag me etc :) Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Could the See server part of the Beta 1 line be highlighted red and link to this page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/MD5SUMS Just an idea, but I have no idea how to do it ;^) Also Torrent link may be misleading because that link includes all DL options (http, jigdo, zsync, torrent). And that should be the only DL link needed for the Beta 1, having the QA testing link there could be confusing because about 4 days before Beta 2 those images will change, and we mention (and link to) the iso-tracker in the next paragraph. In fact when the LTS releases have point-upgades, eg: 10.04.4, they also pop up on the iso-tracker, sometimes several days prior to the actual release. As always thanks for all you do. That extends to every member of the team. Lance --- On *Sat, 9/3/11, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com* wrote: From: Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary??? To: Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm Cc: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 5:33 AM Hi Jonathan, as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they downloaded? Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmhttp://mc/compose?to=jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says our md5sums for some ISOs vary. Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is that what varies means -- there are four images, each with their own (non-varying!) md5sum? Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we fix this please? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hiyas Josh, things get a little more complicated when you take into account that some people prefer SHA's. The download page that people are directed to does also have the SHA1's and SHA256's for those who prefer to use them. the column for md5's is historical, and back to when we used to spin our own images. The iso's once running, do have the option to check the cd before you install so you can still work 'offline' once you have your image. This further checks that cd burn was successful. There is nothing worse than trying to install a corrupt CD! Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Josh Embrey thelastorph...@gmail.comwrote: Best practices regarding checksums is to present one for each and not suggest that people look elsewhere. With each ISO that's released, the checksum should be presented with it. Some distros actually offer .zip files that have an ISO and a checksum file for the ISO. This makes it so that if you're forced to work offline, you can still calculate your accuracy. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status
Hi Julien, I've added a link at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#News so everyone can grab it when we forget :) Regards, Phill. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I do a summary of the Lubuntu developpement each week for the release meeting. If you are interested, I add them to this page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric If you have something to mention before the meeting (each Friday), please send me a mail before, so I can have a look at it. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status
hi Lance, I'll have a play with it over the w/end and see if I can get similar behaviour in VM. If not, I'll start slicing disks up :) Regards, Phill. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: I plan on doing that but I don't have time to test the current daily ATM. That's why I mentioned comparing to Ubuntu alternate-daily but not having time yet to test the newest Lubuntu alternate. I'm just an independent iso-tester and ATM I'm rebuilding my kitchen while also rebuilding my testing computer to hopefully be a more efficient iso-tester ;^) I was hoping someone else could jump in and help figure that out and/or file a new bug report. Honestly I'm not goofing off, but I was just aware of a potential problem that I've not had time to follow up on properly :^) I'm doing my best, reinstalling Win XP as I type so I can test Wubi stuff, even though the Wubi folks might not bring Lubuntu into the fold during the Oneiric cycle. Lance --- On *Fri, 9/9/11, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com* wrote: From: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status To: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 1:30 PM Pleas open another bug report (it's another problem) and attached the content of /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll have a look at it. Regards, Julien Lavergne Le 09/09/2011 19:50, Lance a écrit : I think Lubuntu looks pretty good, but one thing I do need to follow up on is shown here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/835961/comments/16 I'd very much appreciate anyone else jumping into testing to see what they find. I'm just under serious time constraints ATM but I will follow up ASAP. As always thanks for all you, and everyone, do to make Lubuntu the great OS it is, Lance --- On *Fri, 9/9/11, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comhttp://mc/compose?to=gi...@ubuntu.com * wrote: From: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comhttp://mc/compose?to=gi...@ubuntu.com Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 11:02 AM Hi, I do a summary of the Lubuntu developpement each week for the release meeting. If you are interested, I add them to this page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric If you have something to mention before the meeting (each Friday), please send me a mail before, so I can have a look at it. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center
Ah well, there goes my last few brain cells. I thought it was for 11.10 and was not aware it was being back-ported in a complete test version that has bugs back to 11.04. Still, you learn something new every day :) If some one could please clarify this for me, I'd really appreciate it! Regards, Phill. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Matthew Byers faintstlsa...@gmail.comwrote: As i was unable to install 11.04 on my system from usb i had to install 10.04 awhile back. After not being able to test the lsc i decided to upgrade via update manager last night. The upgrade went smoothly and i was able to readd the ppa and install lsc but am unable to run it. I try calling it from menu but nothing happens and i try running from cli and get this: stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ lubuntu-software-center Opening config file Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 464, in module app = LscControl() File /usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 38, in __init__ self.ui = UI.Gui() File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/UI.py, line 42, in __init__ control.__init__() File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/control.py, line 80, in __init__ controller = Controller() File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/control.py, line 32, in __init__ self.parser.readfp(self.conf_file) File /usr/lib/python2.7/ConfigParser.py, line 316, in readfp self._read(fp, filename) File /usr/lib/python2.7/ConfigParser.py, line 504, in _read raise MissingSectionHeaderError(fpname, lineno, line) ConfigParser.MissingSectionHeaderError: File contains no section headers. file: /home/stlsaint/.config/lsc/LSC.ini, line: 2 '[General]\n' stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Matthew Byers faintstlsa...@gmail.comwrote: I readded and tried again but still not working. I will try another way later. Thanks folks On Sep 8, 2011 9:56 AM, Gareth Rigby gareth.rigby...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, My apologies I didn't notice it spelt correctly below that! I had no problem installing from synaptic under the name lubuntu-software-center Maybe try searching for just lubuntu and scroll through. Try reloading in synaptic and if it still doesn't appear, click on software sources and edit the PPA you added a box will appear, check that it matches these details:- Type: Binary URI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu Distribution:natty (Assuming you are on natty of course! Put your distro in here if different Components: main comments : Hope this helps, mine added straight in on the terminal, but I removed it and added it back in synaptic. with add in software sources and typed *ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa* in the popup that appears, simply reloaded and and searched for lubuntu. Cheers Gareth On 08/09/11 16:06, Matthew Byers wrote: Yes I spelled wrong at first but you can see via the rest of my snippet that I correctly executed the command. Is it under a different name than lubuntu-software-center cause even via synaptic I don't see it. I was able to install the lubuntu-control-center just fine just not software center. On Sep 8, 2011 3:31 AM, Gareth Rigby gareth.rigby...@gmail.com mailto:gareth.rigby...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, Looking through your email and it appears you have spelt repository incorrect in your command. you have spelt it repositoriy Might be easier to use synaptic to install it cheers Gareth On 08/09/11 10:59, James Gifford wrote: Hey Matthew - to install it, run sudo apt-get update to update your repository list and then try to install it. Cheers, James Gifford http://jamesrgifford.com On Sep 8, 2011, at 0:40, Matthew Byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried installing and it was unable to find it. stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com http://keyserver.ubuntu.com http://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4 gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com http://keyserver.ubuntu.com http://keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: key CF57B0F4: Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center Reading
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hi Lance, Sorry for the delay. Is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Lubuntu_Oneiric_11.10 better in terms of the table layout and links for Beta 1? Thanks for your input on this. Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Could the See server part of the Beta 1 line be highlighted red and link to this page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/MD5SUMS Just an idea, but I have no idea how to do it ;^) Also Torrent link may be misleading because that link includes all DL options (http, jigdo, zsync, torrent). And that should be the only DL link needed for the Beta 1, having the QA testing link there could be confusing because about 4 days before Beta 2 those images will change, and we mention (and link to) the iso-tracker in the next paragraph. In fact when the LTS releases have point-upgades, eg: 10.04.4, they also pop up on the iso-tracker, sometimes several days prior to the actual release. As always thanks for all you do. That extends to every member of the team. Lance --- On *Sat, 9/3/11, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com* wrote: From: Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary??? To: Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm Cc: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 5:33 AM Hi Jonathan, as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they downloaded? Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmhttp://mc/compose?to=jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says our md5sums for some ISOs vary. Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is that what varies means -- there are four images, each with their own (non-varying!) md5sum? Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we fix this please? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Facebook and LXDE Forum
Hi Ali, sorry for the tardy reply this time. Please use the the two 'lists' email addresses when replying, there are times I'm tied up and replying to the teams will help you better get to know them. I've added Mario on the cc list (even though he does get them) as he is our co-ordinator. Again, please be patient. Using the 'reply to all' on both lists ensures everyone gets information. An example being that there are some extremely profficient wiki people on Lubuntu (people I ask for help). You do not need to wait for me to reply when asking questions, if the question is asked - someone will jump in and reply. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Phill, I hope you are fine and doing well :) I replied your email the other day but I guess you are so busy right now. I have few things to discuss about you. I'm waiting for your reply to my previous email so that I can know what is my other next step. I'd like to let you know that I'm trying now to be active on LXDE Forum. I have posted 20 times today so far and I just created my first guide http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31300 Also, I've been active too on Facebook Page for Lubuntu: https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428 I want to ask you something. Is it possible for me to be an Admin on that Facebook Page and/or the Forum of LXDE? I'm sure the team needs more staff when it comes to these two sites. If I can't be an admin now, it's ok but I have decided to be active on both pages/sites and prove myself there first. What do you think? is it a good step? -- Best Regards A. J -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Dentist visit
Hiyas, I'm am planning to see my dentist (and be told off for the length of time since last visit). I *was* planning 1st week in October, but then remembered that a 'little something' happens in the 1st couple of weeks of October. Why do I need to book time off? Well, I live in UK and my dentist is at the far end of turkey. Having had my top set of teeth bridged and capped a few years ago, it is time for me to have my bottom set done. (Weak teeth run in our family and my brother who is 2 years older than me has just had all his removed and false teeth done). I prefer the option of bridging and capping (I do not quite feel old enough yet to have a full set of dentures). My planned dates are ~17 Oct 2011 - 01 Nov 2011. My Dentist reckons the work can be done in 7 days, but I'd actually like to have a bit of a holiday plus in the few years since my upper set, my lower teeth now need more work. Oh, and why not UK dentist? 1) They are incompetent money grabbing people. 2) 3,000 GBP to cap 6 top teeth this is after spending a lot of money on just one canine tooth. 3) I got my my whole top set capped and bridged, flights, accomadation and far superior treatment and hygiene for 2,000 GBP.. Everyone I've sent since has come back with the same opinion. @ Julien, I have not booked for certain yet. If I hear no squeals off people I'll get it booked in the next 7 days @ mohi and @ daniel You two lads need to agree on the transfer of DE over for the time I am away whilst we sort him out a permanent home. to everyone else, that seems, for me looking at the calendar the best two weeks to be away. The *really* bad news? Well, there is internet access over there and I can log on at an internet cafe to make sure you all behave :P Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Rafael
To All, Well, next time you get a squiggle from Rafael, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers It has been added also at https://launchpad.net/~rafaellaguna now he needs to is choose his @ubuntu.com email address. Rafael, Congratulations, I did hear that that it went through pretty quickly on this application. We did get enough people, and you got enough of your work looked at for the correct decision to be made. It is, for me, nice to see the doubters who cannot take the time to look into applications to be found wanting. You were not. Regards, Phill. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] membership
Rafael, I am confident that all those involved with Lubuntu will support your application. Whilst some of us have not had direct access to you know of your work, I am sure that 'as a team' we do really appreciate your work. I run around doing wiki stuff and got approved. You do far more important stuff for Lubuntu. You do this work tirelessly and also keep in touch with the devs as to what 'version' of gtk, etc. we use. You really are a star. I do not get to chat to you often, but I will repeat that if it were not for you, Lubuntu would not be where it is now. There are times when I get annoyed that the 'back office people' do not get recognised. As I stated, 'points' dedication. I do hope that users of Lubuntu will actually put testimonials up for you and reflect the fact your work is so appreciated. I can assure you that your work on the graphics side is quite simply an area of Lubutu that we need not worry about. We know it is in the hands of an excellent person. Thank you for all you have done, and continue to do. Regards, Phill. 2011/9/3 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com ** Woooww! It's so impressive! Thanks so much. I'm not sure this will transform my apply in a member one, but I'm so proud of your recognisement. That's enough for me, believe me. Being member was just like an annoying bee, not sure if like to be or not. The pressure ifs very high, but I understand, there'll be thousands of people doing nothing (not all, I presume) who wanted to use a @ubuntu.com address and that's all. Again, thank you very much. -- [image: Go to rafaellaguna.com] http://lubuntublog.rafaellaguna.com [image: Go to Lubuntu.net] http://www.lubuntu.net -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw b1.pngb3.pngb2.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hi Jonathan, as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they downloaded? Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says our md5sums for some ISOs vary. Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is that what varies means -- there are four images, each with their own (non-varying!) md5sum? Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we fix this please? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 775124] Re: Ubiquity should have a command line option to override the free space check
Hi, I'll do this not via bug report as it is a 'work around' rather than a fix. In the past we have had the instructions for minimal iso at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu specfically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall My suggestion is that we re-write the notes to use the alt install so that they are n00b friendly and cover the tricky part of manually partitioning? The pro's for this is that the alt image works, the con's are that it still leaves Ubiquity wanting silly usage of disk RAM space when it should be fixed, IMHO, in a couple of lines of code as to where JM alluded. I'd much prefer the 'hack' that caused the regression to be accepted as a regression and a more elegant solution be found to the problem. Simply 'telling' Ubiquity to want 2 X Disk space and 2 X RAM, for me is simply insane. It has been proven that the 2 X disk space is not required https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/11.04MinimalDiskSpacebut, with my pragmatic head on and us using the 'official' build system whilst we argue these points out there are people who cannot install. If we do go for the hand-holding alt instructions, I'd like to also make /home a partition as well. IMHO this would allow the / system to be as small as possible, allow us to factor in depending on RAM the /swap area and then have all the user data on its own partition. For such small disks we are not going to be installing side by side with another system. Well, those are my thoughts. I look forward to the replies, The battle may have been lost for 11.10, but the war for 12.04 is yet to start. If 12.04 can address the ubiquity issues that affect Lubuntu (and any other low-footprint) then we get a win-win. Regards, Phill. 2011/9/3 Erick Brunzell lbsol...@yahoo.com The Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 live-i386 image now says only 3.9GB is required. I think the Ubuntu image says 4.4GB but I need to recheck that. So I started the automated install (install alongside) where my blank 4GB flash drive was the only unpartitioned space available, and I have 2GB of RAM, so the installation stalls with the attached warning because it wants to create about 2GB of swap which leaves an insufficient amount of disc space for /. IMHO that's actually OK though, because you're told that clicking on continue will result in failure, and if you click on back you end up in the manual partitioning screen. Lubuntu now also has an alternate install image so I'd think we're OK here. I have no 64bit hardware so I can't test the amd64 images. ** Attachment added: lack_of_space.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/775124/+attachment/2347816/+files/lack_of_space.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu Packages Team, which is subscribed to a duplicate bug report (819538). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/775124 Title: Ubiquity should have a command line option to override the free space check Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “ubiquity” source package in Oneiric: Triaged Bug description: Binary package hint: ubiquity I downloaded the 11.04 desktop i386 iso, put it on a usb drive so i could it install it on my netbook, but couldnt even get past the install screen, because it says i need 4.4GB to install ubuntu 11.04. The problem is that my hard drive is only 4GB large, a common size in netbooks. I have run installers for ubuntu 10.10, 10.04, 9.10 and 9.04 netbook editions on my netbook and never had a problem before. I notice that 11.04 has netbook and desktop editions combined into a single ISO, so maybe that is why the error happened in 11.04 and not before. Also, I notice that the install footprint of 10.10 is around 2.1GB, so it shouldnt be a problem running 11.04 unless they truly added 2GB of junk to the OS. The problem is I just can't get past the installer. [i am intentionally posting a duplicate of bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/772164 because i can't change the package of bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/772164 to ubiquity from netbook] ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: ubiquity 2.6.10 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686 Architecture: i386 Date: Sun May 1 20:24:28 2011 LiveMediaBuild: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Release i386 (20110427.1) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: ubiquity UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/775124/+subscriptions -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Is Lubuntu Beta 1 ISO usable??
Hi, I've found it stable since pre-alpha. However, please do note the warning at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing Regards, Phill. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Michał Ćwikliński mic...@cwiklinski.itwrote: I mean is it stable enough? __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.**launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
