Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 04:39:21 -0500 Steven wrote: > i think you forgot to 'reply-all' and missed lubuntu-desktop :) > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Yorvyk wrote: > > > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 04:17:29 -0500 > > Steven wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris wrote: > > > > > > > On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven wrote: > > > > > Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :) > > > > > > > > > > 1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004. > > It's > > > > my > > > > > main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm. > > > > > > > > > > I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds > > like the > > > > > kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not > > > > beyond), > > > > > but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can > > convince > > > > > them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin > > Watson > > > > > mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1]. > > > > > > > > > > -Steven > > > > > > > > > > [1]: > > > > > > http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk < > > yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Steven, > > > > > > > > Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple > > > > of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't > > > > capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command "grep > > > > pae /proc/cpuinfo" to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If > > > > you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it > > > > means. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris > > > > > > > > > > > > > That command doesn't give any output: > > > $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo > > > $ > > > > > > It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the > > > first time the other day and got this: > > > "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: > > > pae > > > Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU." > > > > > > -Steven > > > > > The Pentium M appears to be the most common CPU that can't run a PAE > > kernel. > > As Lubuntu is mainly aimed at low end machines I think we should go with > > the non-PAE kernel as default, this will give us a 'market' not available > > to the other 'ubuntus. > > I seem to remember, at one point there were two kernels on a distro and > > the appropriate one selected depending how much memory was detected. Is > > the feasible. > > What would be really wonderful, would be if the non-PAE kernel was i586. > > This would increase, by a small percentage admittedly, the number of cpus > > Lubuntu could support. > > > > -- > > Yorvyk > > -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:21:31 +0100 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > It's official, we have a new mailing list :) > > lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com > > If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please > subscribe to this new mailing list (See > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ). > > The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions, > and the team will be close soon. > > Thanks for your attention :) > A polite request. Please don't cross-post to the two lists, this will lead to all manner of confusion. Ta. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:21:31 +0100 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > It's official, we have a new mailing list :) > > lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com > > If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please > subscribe to this new mailing list (See > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ). > > The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions, > and the team will be close soon. > > Thanks for your attention :) > I've forwarded this the the Ubuntu News Team for a bit of extra publicity. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Happy New Year 2012
Just updated and seen the wallpaper :) Nice job. Happy New Year everybody! -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:24:42 + Martin Olesen wrote: > 2011/12/21 Yorvyk : > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300 > > Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > > > >> First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) > >> > >> Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete > >> (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it, > >> so there was no "market" there). > >> Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource > >> releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) > >> Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS > >> *ubuntu could exist for i586... > >> I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. > >> > > Is there any call for i586 kernel? Has anybody complained of it's absence? > > I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify > > it's inclusion. > > > > If I understand this correctly we are dealing with processors 12 > (twelve) years old or more having a clock frequency of less than 300 > MHz. Such a computer is hardly usable for any practical purpose. > > I'd say we (that is, the Buntu community in general) should forget > about them and focus on getting better support for new hardware. > Lubuntu is intended to support older hardware. There are, however, recent machines, based on the Geode LX chip , that are not fully i686 compatible. But, how many is the problem. I can understand the Ubuntu devs not wishing to support large numbers of kernels, especially as there are now a number of ARM kernels in the repos to be supported. Like the PAE kernel problem, with the Celeron M, are there enough users to test and support the appropriate kernels. I really don't know which way to go on this one to be honest. But, in both cases, it's not just about last centuries hardware. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) > > Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete > (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it, > so there was no "market" there). > Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource > releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) > Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS > *ubuntu could exist for i586... > I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. > Is there any call for i586 kernel? Has anybody complained of it's absence? I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify it's inclusion. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC "some apps missing bug", and where to report bugs for LSC
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:16:23 + Michael Rawson wrote: > I have had a similiar experience; I literally just filed the bug here: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/907037 > > You can report bugs here (providing you have LP account): > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+filebug > > as it is purely a Lubuntu project. > > If it is a 'runtime' bug i.e. there is an error, not if there is a missing > feature, attach the output of "lubuntu-software-center" in your bug report. > Also, try the latest bzr branch release before reporting (currently rev. 77 > in the trunk) > Found the bug reports. I was searching using centre not center. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How LSC works?
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:19:04 + Yorvyk wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:49:36 -0300 > Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > > > One thing I need often is the presence of Lame on my system. So, i go to > > LSC to install lame but can't see it!! > > I go to USC to verify and i come to realize that the same search parameter > > returns different things... (just try lame in LSC and USC to see it ;) > > I'm guessing that this happens with other searches too. > > My point is: LSC should show the same apps that USC with the same search > > parameters, right? > > > With the same search parameters they should show the same results but, they > don't appear to have the same parameters. They appear to be searching on > different fields. > The search does seem a bit bizarre. I've just tried both Lubuntu and lubuntu and it finds nothing. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC problems and where to report
Where should one report LSC bugs. I can't find any reported on Launchpad. The problems. There is a surfeit of information on some apps. eg. Penguin Taipei and other Ace-of-Penguin apps as well as others. No version number in About. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How LSC works?
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:49:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > One thing I need often is the presence of Lame on my system. So, i go to > LSC to install lame but can't see it!! > I go to USC to verify and i come to realize that the same search parameter > returns different things... (just try lame in LSC and USC to see it ;) > I'm guessing that this happens with other searches too. > My point is: LSC should show the same apps that USC with the same search > parameters, right? > With the same search parameters they should show the same results but, they don't appear to have the same parameters. They appear to be searching on different fields. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:27:21 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: > > I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update. As > for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I > have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux. > Depending on the manafacturer therare a variety of ways of updating the BIOS. Some provide a bootable ISO which uses FreeDOS or you may be able to concoct your own using FreeDOS. http://www.freedos.org/ I've had some success with FlashROM which is available in the repos. http://flashrom.org/ Another option is to temporary install Windows if you have a copy that came with the machine, especially if the manufacturer's site has an automated tool for telling you which updates are required. Until recently I've been using a '60 day' evaluation copy of WinXP for this purpose if the above doesn't work. Sadly a lot of recent machines require Vista or Win 7 for this sort of tool. Even if the BIOS upgrade doesn't mention your problem it may well be worth updating as manufacturers don't always tell you everything the BIOS update resolves. It may also be useful to look at firmware updates for the hard drive as well. The other thing to look at is cleaning the vents, heat-sink and fan to ensure good airflow. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE 'running' on the Nook
Thought this may be of interest, still a way to go before it runs fully but still interesting. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/ubuntu-running-on-the-nook-tablet/ -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Docs team
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:44:03 + Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi Lubunteers, > > as always, an area that people just expect 'to happen', I noted that on > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks#Current_Tasks_For_Anyone > Lubuntu > is not even mentioned. I know that we have had input into various areas in > the past... Is there any one willing to take this one on as P.O.C. (Point > Of Contact)? As said, I'll hold P.O.C. for the QA side, but we really do > need someone to step forward for this one. > Perhaps a brief explanation of what a POC is required to do may be in order, as I can't find any details any where. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:14:46 -0800 Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On 12/17/2011 04:19 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > > > 2011/12/17 Gabriel Salles > > > >> Companies, universities, etc. will have a local repo or cache and > >> only download the update once for thousands of machines. Even some > >> home users do this if they have few machines. > > > > Off topic, but just to know, can you point me on how to do that? > > > Use any of the relevant packages for doing that, such as apt-mirror, > apt-proxy or apt-cacher-ng . > > There's an ancient tutorial on howtoforge that might still be relevant, > if you need a tutorial (reading the docs that come with the package is > better, IMO!). http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror > That doc still works, or did 18 months ago. Though I now use squid http://www.squid-cache.org/ as it just seems easier/simpler. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:32:48 -0200 Gabriel Salles wrote: > Hi all > > I don't know if it is possible, but is there a way of Canonical count > how many IPs does an update? Maybe some specific update, like > software-center, lxterminal... I know that some computers still > doesn't use internet, but most of them use. > That won't give an accurate figure either. Companies, universities, etc. will have a local repo or cache and only download the update once for thousands of machines. Even some home users do this if they have few machines. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:08:57 -0500 Philip wrote: > Hi all, > > First, let me say thank you to everyone on the Lubuntu team. I have > been using Lubuntu for over a year now, and it is quite possibly the > fastest, most efficient operating system I have ever used (and I have > used many). Keep up the extraordinary work. > > A few weeks ago on this list, a question was raised about the current > number of Lubuntu users. I was a little surprised that no one had a > clear idea, and that estimates varied widely. It seems a little > dangerous from a development standpoint to have so little information > about your userbase, doesn't it? Wouldn't it be valuable to determine > a way of gathering data about how many people use Lubuntu, and how > they use it? > > I don't ask this because I want to burden you with another task. I > may be able to offer some help myself. I like Lubuntu, and intend to > use it well into the future. But operating systems have demonstrated > a clear tendency to eventually lose touch with and alienate their > userbase. I think Lubuntu developers, being better than average, > might recognize this common problem, and take steps to safeguard > against it. One safeguard might be the collection of this data. > > What do you think? > > Philip Fielding > Every Linux distribution would like to know how many users it has. Short of it 'phoning home' every so often nobody seems to have any idea how to get numbers of users. Estimating numbers of users from downloads is fraught with problems. I've installed both Lubuntu and Ubuntu a several machines from the one download of each ISO. Others may download the ISO to try or do a review and never use it again. Some people use the Distrowatch Page Hit Ranking as an indication of usage but, as pointed out on Linux Outlaws this is more an indication of 'mind share' rather than usage. So it's just a case of wild guess work in the end. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:20:10 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Long story short: > > 1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu > Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm > willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea here > and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :) > Join the Ubuntu marketing team and adapt their stuff and use the skills that have been developed there. Having joined the Ubuntu family I see no point in isolating ourselves from it. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:04:24 + Michael Rawson wrote: > Great! > > I see no reason why we couldn't have a forum-Ubuntu has one, Kubuntu has one, > presumably Xubuntu is gnashing their teeth to have one... > > A separate forum is just unnecessary extra work and if we isolate ourselves, the general problems will have to be answered by the smaller number of Lubuntu users and not by the fine collection of experts Ubuntu already has. Questions and experience will just get spread more thinly. Just stick with the Ubuntu one and tag post with Lubuntu if needed. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Arrows missing from scroll bar
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:10:12 + Andrew Woodhead wrote: > On 13 December 2011 22:13, Yorvyk wrote: > > > Anybody else noticed the up/down arrows missing from the scroll bar in > > Precise? > > If so what package do I file a bug against? > > > > > > is it in any particular app, or just all scrollbars? > It's on all apps. But, I've only just noticed it and it may have some thing to do with the unity/gnome rubbish that came with an update. I'm going to re-install the alpha and see if it's still there. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Arrows missing from scroll bar
Anybody else noticed the up/down arrows missing from the scroll bar in Precise? If so what package do I file a bug against? -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: > Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) > > Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download > the daily build iso and install it rather than using "zsync". Does it stand > true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how > often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that > daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much > except waiting - any other website will be slow. > Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] unity-greeter crashes Precise Alpha/dailies
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:32:22 + Yorvyk wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:03:28 -0800 > ∅ wrote: > > > I put out a bug on this issue but haven't heard a peep. Not sure if > > there is a similar issue with Ubuntu which may be why it's not getting > > any attention. Anyone out there testing that can confirm? > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/899742 > > > Confirmed. > I've was looking through Synaptic to see what unity-greeter is and noticed > there are quite a few unity bits and pieces installed. There appears to be > about a dozen of them with unity in the package name. I would imagine this > is just a dependency/recommends issue. > There also appears to be a large number of compiz related packages as well. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] unity-greeter crashes Precise Alpha/dailies
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:03:28 -0800 ∅ wrote: > I put out a bug on this issue but haven't heard a peep. Not sure if > there is a similar issue with Ubuntu which may be why it's not getting > any attention. Anyone out there testing that can confirm? > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/899742 > Confirmed. I've was looking through Synaptic to see what unity-greeter is and noticed there are quite a few unity bits and pieces installed. There appears to be about a dozen of them with unity in the package name. I would imagine this is just a dependency/recommends issue. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 03:35:37 +0100 Chris wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about the new section on > the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter. It's a section devoted to the development of > the official derivatives of Ubuntu. For this we'd like to receive every > week that you have a meeting, a link to the summary of the meeting. This is > all to more acknowledgement of the hard work everyone in the derivatives > branches are doing. > If there are any questions, please ask them here or on #ubuntu-news. > akgraner and me (MrChrisDruif) should be around to answer your questions. > > With metta, Chris > Thanks for the reminder Chris, nearly forgot to do this. Links sent to ubuntu-news. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java
On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:43:15 +1000 Jared Norris wrote: > On 5 December 2011 06:17, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I don't use it nor need it :) > > Someone already posted on my thread that Lubuntu FAQs (Wiki) need to be > > updated according to the link I mentioned > > (http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html) > > Since I have never used JAVA on Linux, I'm asking those who are using it to > > check whether we need to update our Wiki or not? > > > > So, again, please double check this: > > http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html > > > > and if necessary, update this: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java > > > > I didn't update the Wiki because I'm not sure because I don't use Java :) > > > > Thanks :) > > > > > This is the very big problem I see with having a separate FAQ to the > main information on the wiki. Unless it's specific to Lubuntu I really > don't see why it should exist on our FAQ area at all. All this does is > duplicate information AND reduce the number of people working on a > topic. This is a perfect example because the proper Java page [0] was > updated a while ago to reflect the changes. > > So my opinion is, unless it's specific to Lubuntu we should contribute > and rely on the community documentation for *Ubuntu instead of trying > to carve out our own little niche that will easily be out of date and > hard to maintain with fewer resources. (To answer your question my > suggestion would be to remove the java section altogether, if you HAVE > to have something, link to the main page for Java). > > [0] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java > Couldn't agree more Jared. Repeating the same information over and over in different places is not helpful. Users who aren't quite sure what their problem is end up 'not seeing the wood for the trees.' This is the sort of thing a decent index is helps with. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minutes from the Lubuntu Team meeting on 2011-11-30
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:17:54 +0100 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > You can find the logs of the meeting on > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Meetings/2030 > Sorry about my absence early in the meeting. Every time I type a message I got disconnected. Regarding the 'basic guide and index' topic. I've asked a couple of the users that requested this and didn't really know what they wanted if https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/index.html is what they're looking for and they said it was. So that problem can now be solved. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu one - A suggestion.
A suggestion from Peter. "Does anyone know what the plans are for Ubuntu One and Lubuntu? I would like to see a client that can sync only when executed for Lubuntu." Seems like a good idea to me but, not sure how hard it would be it implement. Thoughts. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:16:11 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > El 30/11/11 13:15, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) escribió: > > WUT? > Exactly my reaction!! > > LOL WTF :D By next May we should be on 11.04! -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Software center doesn't think it's connected to internet
Anybody any ideas on this problem? "Installed the PPA – software center looks lovely – but that’s about all it does. Tried to install several different software and all failed stating I was not connected to the internet when in fact my internet is working perfectly fine." from http://frenchfortunecookie.wordpress.com/2011/11/24/lovin-lubuntu#comments -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] A short review and request of LSC
Just seen this short review of Lubuntu and one of the few requests for a software centre. I've pointed them to the PPA in the comment section. Nice title to the article. It would make a good marketing line for Lubuntu. http://frenchfortunecookie.wordpress.com/2011/11/24/lovin-lubuntu/ -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding powerpc ISO for 12.04 ?
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 07:38:04 -0800 ∅ wrote: > On 11/23/2011 02:24 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > > There are some requests to add a powerpc version of Lubuntu ISO. We > > didn't do this in the past because there was no testers for the ISO. > > It seems that people are interesting to use it and to test it during > > the 12.04 development cycle. If the persons could confirm me this > > interest, I can request to add powerpc to the list of Lubuntu version. > > To be official, the powerpc ISO needs be tested during Alpha, Beta and > > Final ISO testing. You can see the procedure on the wiki : > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures It's quite simple, and > > doesn't require any technical skills. Of course, I can help people > > during the testing period if they want. > > Let me know if there are still an interest for testing this ISO, so we > > can start the tests with Alpha 1 (next week). > > I'll do it! For that matter, I could probably rally some other troops, > too. Just say the word.. > Same here. I think Lubuntu would be ideal for some of the old PPC macs as Apple were never very generous with RAM or disk space. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: 431 users!
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:41:08 +0530 mohi wrote: > > From: Attila Varga > > To: Yorvyk > > > > I have 10 pc with lubuntu at home with no internet connection. > > > > Then, we should take a real survey to prove them that they are wrong ;] > > Great work Attila :) > > Real survey? -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: 431 users!
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:31:48 -0500 From: William Mcleod To: Yorvyk Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 431 users! It's the only OS on my production machine, I use it very extensively actually. On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:50:35 + Yorvyk wrote: > According to omgubuntu there are at least 431 users of Lubuntu :) > 2.7% of respondents said they used Lubuntu. I know these things should be > taken with a pinch of salt but, it's one of the few figures we have to tell > us how Lubuntu is actually doing. > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/poll-result-15800-votes-cast-unity-named-most-popular-desktop/ > > > -- > Yorvyk > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- William Mcleod -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: 431 users!
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:53:02 +0100 From: Attila Varga To: Yorvyk Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 431 users! I have 10 pc with lubuntu at home with no internet connection. 2011/11/20 Yorvyk : > According to omgubuntu there are at least 431 users of Lubuntu :) > 2.7% of respondents said they used Lubuntu. I know these things should be > taken with a pinch of salt but, it's one of the few figures we have to tell > us how Lubuntu is actually doing. > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/poll-result-15800-votes-cast-unity-named-most-popular-desktop/ > > > -- > Yorvyk > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] 431 users!
According to omgubuntu there are at least 431 users of Lubuntu :) 2.7% of respondents said they used Lubuntu. I know these things should be taken with a pinch of salt but, it's one of the few figures we have to tell us how Lubuntu is actually doing. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/poll-result-15800-votes-cast-unity-named-most-popular-desktop/ -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:20:35 -0800 Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On 11/20/2011 07:29 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > > > On 20/11/2011 19:31, Yorvyk wrote: > > > >> If a CPU can't support PAE it can't support more than 4GiB of RAM, > >> so the PAE part of the kernel shoudn't come into play. > > > > > From what I understand, PAE has a different set of paging structures > > compared to non-PAE. Does the kernel know to fall back onto non-PAE > > mode if it cannot enable PAE on a CPU? > > > Which way to do things is basically a compile time option for the > kernel, as I understand it. So, if a PAE kernel is used, it can *only* > be run on processors that support the additional PAE instructions. Even > if a machine only has 128MB RAM, it you try to run a PAE kernel on it, > and the CPU lacks the PAE instruction, it is not going to run. > > The real question is: are there really any CPUs in general purpose > desktops or laptops, in any significant quantity at all, that Ubuntu > 11.10 i386 kernels work on, which PAE kernels do not work on? > > Other than the early 400MHz Pentium-M, which are pretty rare, I don't > think anyone has seen such a CPU yet. Via C3 and AMD Geode LX already > cannot run current Ubuntu 11.10 default kernels anyway. > Having trawled the net for info on this, I have no problem with dropping the non-PAE kernel as it appears to only effect a very,very, very small number of users. Whether these are current or potential users is going to be very hard to find out, unless they start jumping up-and-down screaming. My one concern was the alleged overhead of the PAE kernel but, this appears, from the various benchmarks I've seen, to be trivial and probably unnoticeable in normal use. I have installed PAE kernels on a couple of machines, one oneiric and one precise, and have not noticed any problems so far. I would imagine by the time 12.04 is no longer supported, 32 bit ubuntus may well be limited to the ARM anyway. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin
I may be misunderstanding things here, but. If a CPU can't support PAE it can't support more than 4GiB of RAM, so the PAE part of the kernel shoudn't come into play. So what's the problem? -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:07:03 +0700 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Thanks Mario. > > Currently, the situation is not very nice, the mailing list is not open > anymore, and the PPA is too common. We have to change the mailing or the PPA > location, or both. > > About the mailing list, the best solution is probably to switch to one (or 1 > for user help, and 1 for devel ?) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/, since it's a > more standard mailing list (no need to be member of the team). > It would be nice to have the mailing list on https://lists.ubuntu.com this will bring Lubuntu on par with the other official derivatives and may make it easier for people to find, and subscribe. What would be the difference be between the user and devel lists? Having the two often leads to cross posting when there is a relatively small development team and user base. This can be seen on the LXDE lists. > > The PPA will probably disappears with the time, we need more specialized > PPAs, instead of one with many various stuff in it. > This would be helpful. PPAs with all-sorts in are only slightly short of useless, as you end you having to pin some applications to stop them upgrading in order to try a new version of another. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:39:40 + Michael Rawson wrote: > Besides, green would look like Mint LXDE. I think black is a good thing, but > that's me. > I like green as well but, suse also use it as their corporate colours. Black also looks nice , CrunchBang Linux shows how well this works. We could of cause go community orange :) The problem with green or black themes, is they often don't look good on old CRT monitors. Whereas blue appears to look OK even when the gamma settings are somewhat adrift. From the users I have dealt with over the years, blue themes tend not to create any real reaction - of love or hate - that black or green themes can. Stick with blue, the themes we've had so far have all been very pleasant and usable even though I'm not a real fan of blue, it doesn't annoy me like some colours. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:03:38 -0500 Tim Bernhard wrote: > Thanks Stephen, > > I found that to enter GRUB you simply press and hold SHIFT. I added the > parameter to the end of the the boot command and booted they system and it > did the same thing.Lubuntu splash and then the screen goes blank. > > > Tim > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Smally > wrote: > > > On 11/17/2011 04:49 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401. This thing is an > > old Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive and > > 64mb of RAM. I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in to bring > > the RAM up to 192mb. I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso. It took a > > while but the install completed. > > > > The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following > > message: > > > > vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not > > enabled! - upgrade BIOS or use force=1 > > > > > > After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then the > > screen goes blank. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tim > > > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > try to enter into the grub (you have to hit some keys if it doesn't show > > up automatically, something like Canc, google for it), go on the line that > > says "L/Ubuntu * with Linux *" (* means the version of the system, 11.10 > > with linux 3 or so on), enter "e" (to edit the entry) and add force=1 after > > "quiet splash". > > > > this because the message says: > > > > upgrade BIOS or use force=1 > > > > This mean that you grub is too old for Lubuntu, you have to upgrade it, or > > you can add force=1 at the start to avoid the problem. > > if it works i will tell you how to make it persistent (by default when you > > edit an entry the changes you made aren't persistent). > > > > Stephen Smally > > > > P.S. sorry for the different font > > > It would appear there isn't really a solution for this problem, from what I've found googling. :( To cheer you up though, todays xkcd http://xkcd.org/ :) My only sugestion is to try the alternate install, rather than the minimal method. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:12:32 + Phill Whiteside wrote: > 8 PM GMT is fine for me also. > > Regards, > I prefer 20:00 UTC :D -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:43:05 +0700 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting on > IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's needed. > I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it > less often in the future, if it's not necessary. > > Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it during > the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and Internet > connection :) > > I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because it's > the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after some > time (like 3 months). We could alternate the times. 7PM one week 7AM another? > > I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting on > the 23th. > > It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when you > have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the schedule, > so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this time. > > Let me know what you think about this. > It doesn't matter what time the meetings are, they will be inconvenient for some. As long as the logs of the meeting are available for others to comment on, everybody should be able to have a say. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: > Hi there, > > Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945&postcount=205 > > This guy (mörgæs <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>) has offered > his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team about > that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful. > > Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website, PLEASE > do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website. > www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS, > it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans > but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to > update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all. > > This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it. > > So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do love > Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do > that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what will > happen if you do what others are suggesting? > > Now, I'm not going to reply > mörgæs<http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>but one of the team > who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO. > > Thank you so much! > > ALL HAIL LUBUNTU! > > P.S. > I'll inform him (mörgæs <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>) that > I sent his post and waiting for a reply. > I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net. Waiting for other people will never achieve anything, nor will threats. The lubuntu team is very small and very busy, often with real life. I haven't been able to put the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked due to real life. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:02:45 -0500 Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Make sure you are doing your tests with a clean browser profile. An > easy, safe way to do that is to create a new user and login to the new > account. > Also need to ensure everybody is using the same, and latest, versions of the browsers. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:51:02 -0400 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not very fan of a change unless we have a strong consensus for another > browser. But, this is my opinion : > - We should only consider Chromium or Firefox, because they have a strong > upstream and are well maintained. Browser is a very important part of a > system, and we really don't have time to do maintenance on it. Adopting > Midori for example, means we have to do the maintenance on Ubuntu (triage > bugs, testing, maybe some packaging ...). > - Benchmark are needed, because just saying it's light, doesn't mean it's > always light. Also, the memory usage for Chromium is special, because it > shares memory (there is an article from a dev of Chromium somewhere in the > Web which explain it). > - Finally, it needs to be light on old hardware. Remember, it's the main > target for Lubuntu. So far, Chromium seems better on this type of machine. > > So far, I don't see advantages to switch to Firefox. Of course, if the > benchmarks show a real difference, I may reconsider my opinion. > Another thing to consider, is this vacancy at Canonical for a WebKit/Chromium Software Engineer. https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=376 -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:29:10 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > Proposal for browser benchmarks: > > - First of all, run the browsers without any add-on > - Take starts time > - Watch lxtask for memory usage & cpu. Inside Chromium about:memory shows > the memory used by each browser running too. Htop? > - Watch the general behaviour > - Sites: youtube, gmail, google, facebook, ubuntu forums (each alone, by > groups of two, three, four and finally five - I don't think that old > machines could support easily more than 5 tabs opened!) > > Let me know if this is enough, what else should be added or if i'm just > talking nonsenses here :P > Amount of physical RAM -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:18:12 +0700 Hùng Trần wrote: > Hi, > > I prefer Chromium, it's good on old machine. Firefox is almost useless on > my 256MB RAM laptop. > I've also found Chromium to be better than Firefox when there is less than 512 MiB of RAM. I haven't really checked memory/CPU usage but Chromium is more responsive with 6-8 tabs open. With less than 256 MiB of RAM Firefox really seems to struggle with only 3-4 tabs open. This isn't just a case of a PIII CPU struggling either. I have a 'brand new', never out of it's box, 2003 vintage, Dell 4600 2.4Mhz P4 with 256 MiB of RAM, AGP8 video and Firefox is slow in this as well. As much as I like Firefox I think Chromium is the way to go for Lubuntu. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I can use Lubuntu for remaster?
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:49:20 +0100 Chris wrote: > As far as I know is everyone free to alter and redistribute any given > distribution when all the proper people/teams are thanked. You can read all > about it in the GPL(v3?) licence supplied with the installation disk. It > should also be readable somewhere in the system, but I don't know where > that can be found. > Also to be considered is trademark policy, infomation at http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:35:34 +0200 Chris wrote: > A more ambiguous name will make it more adaptable for others. Something like > Lightweight Software Center is indicative of it's nature without tying > it unnecessarily to Lubuntu or LXDE for that matter. But that is just my 2c. > LX Software Centre ? -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] R: Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb'
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:41:52 + "Arief Rachman" wrote: > They're files with extension .chm and .pdb. They're not .doc files. > --Original Message-- > From: eco.st...@fastwebnet.it > To: br41...@gmail.com > To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > ReplyTo: eco.st...@fastwebnet.it > Subject: R: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb' > Sent: Sep 11, 2011 23:34 > > what kind of files are they? what kind of apps had generates them? you h > ave to look at some apps similar to the original (e.g. if i have .doc fi > le generated by microsoft word office, an office app will probably open > it). > > Regards > > Stephen Smally > > Messaggio originale > Da: br41...@gmail.com > Data: 11/09/2011 18.17 > A: > Ogg: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb > 9; > > I'm a newbie and I really love my new lubuntu. But I have some problems > here. I can't open my 'chm' and 'pdb' files. Is there any I can do? Woul > d you give me favor? Thank. > Have a look at http://www.fileinfo.com/ it has a reasonably information on what applications can open what files. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 menus
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:04:19 +0200 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote: > Hi, Julien. I've been watching about the bug on the menus you've > experimented, and I cannot reproduce it. Does anybody has the same problem? > I mean, having blank labels on menus. > Are talking about Bug #818869? If so I have the problem and it also occurs in SuSE 11.4 -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 released
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:31:24 +0100 Yorvyk wrote: > On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:02:02 +0200 > Julien Lavergne wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 1 is also available for > > testing. You can find it on > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ > > > Torrents aren't working: > "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" > This for the i386 Desktop and Alternative ISO. > This appears to have been corrected as they are now running :) -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 released
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:02:02 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 1 is also available for > testing. You can find it on > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ > Torrents aren't working: "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" This for the i386 Desktop and Alternative ISO. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 released
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:02:02 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 1 is also available for > testing. You can find it on > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ > Torrents aren't working: "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" This for the i386 Desktop and Alternative ISO. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Not good news re. old mesa drivers
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Lance wrote: > That's definitely bad news for me :^( > > I currently still maintain 24 machines with P4M800 integrated chips and, if > I'm reading that right, I'm about to need some major hardware upgrades. > > I also maintain a few machines with older Intel 8xx chips. Most of the > machines with VIA chips are ones I upgraded myself for seniors to bring them > out of the Win 98 and ME stone-age. > > I may be tarred and feathered if I can't keep these machines working ;^) > It could get troublesome. The VESA driver should still work as an alternative, but it can be rather slow :( -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Alternate CD images exist -- please test!
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:34:08 -0700 Jonathan Marsden wrote: > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/oneiric-alternate-i386.iso > > Thanks to some recent work by Colin Watson on this, specifically for > Lubuntu, we now have automatically created daily Lubuntu Alternate CD > images. These should install on low RAM machines more easily than the > Live CD images do. > > They are very very new. Please test, and report your results. These > images are a BIG benefit of our using the official build system this > cycle, requiring zero additional effort for us to generate them. > Great! Just what the world has been waiting for. > Incidentally, if anyone has PowerPC hardware available, testing the > daily PowerPC builds, both LiveCD and AlternateCD, would be good. > Somebody just asked me today about this for an old iMac :) -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Not good news re. old mesa drivers
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:23:51 -0300 Gabriel Rousseau wrote: > How old are those graphic cards? > > .. > Gabriel Salles > > 2011/8/27 Yorvyk > > > This is not good news, > > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTg0Mg > > Intel i810 was still on sale this century. The others I'm not sure about, probably older. Unfortunately these are the video cards found in the sort of machines that tend to be offered for recycle and the target for Lubuntu. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Not good news re. old mesa drivers
This is not good news, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTg0Mg -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] support needed in any ?
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:24:10 +0200 Horatio Karijoredjo wrote: > > Thanks Yorvik, > > I will start on the English to Dutch translation. > Is there anyone you could recommend who does the packaging stuff for Lubuntu > or Ubuntu ? > Further info. The translation of Osmo is done upstream http://clayo.org/osmo/ and the other none LXDE parts can be done via Launchpad. For packaging it may be an idea to go to the #ubuntu-motu IRC channel and have a chat on there. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] support needed in any ?
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:05:56 - hosoka wrote: Hi Hosoka, > Hello all, > > I would like to start helping out with translation for Lubuntu if there > is any but most of all if anyone can give me a hand how to package for > Lubuntu as I nowadays using Lubuntu more often. > Looking forward to your reply. To help with translation look at: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations and/or http://pootle.lxde.bsnet.se/ -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Apps menu not functioning - Oneiric
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:14:05 +0300 Markus Brummer wrote: > Hi, > > On 07/31/2011 01:52 PM, Yorvyk wrote: > > The applications menu on both my Oneiric test systems has malfunctioned. > > When I click the icon I get a empty white box in the bottom left hand > > corner. Can't find anything on Launchpad about this so I'm assuming it's > > something I've done. Any pointers? > > I had the same problem, got better by moving the panel back to bottom. > Thanks, that works. It also works when positioned on the left or right but, not on the top. Bug #818869 -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Mailing list
Now we appear to be official will the mailing list be moving from launchpad.net to lists.ubuntu.com? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Apps menu not functioning - Oneiric
The applications menu on both my Oneiric test systems has malfunctioned. When I click the icon I get a empty white box in the bottom left hand corner. Can't find anything on Launchpad about this so I'm assuming it's something I've done. Any pointers? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:23:46 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > 2011/7/29 Stefano > > > This mean, for example, hide the libs or other not-app packages by default? > > > Exactly! It must make the difference between "packages" and "applications" > for it to be user-friendly :) > Have a look at making the 'Sections' part of Synaptic list only applications and you'll have achieved what's required. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:52:54 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > > > > we need a simplex synaptic or a lighter USC? > > > A lighter USC - synaptic if far too complicated for the average user :/ > In what way is Synaptic 'far too complicated'? To make USC faster all that needs doing is the unnecessary bits removed. Get rid of the reviews and pretty pictures and, viola, Synaptic! -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 700 mhz laptop with 256 ram running lubuntu
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 01:10:23 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le Monday 04 July 2011 à 18:48 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a > écrit : > > Question to the devs: do you think that maybe one day the > > optimizations could make a nice and usable system (say "Lubuntu") > > running with the requeriments that Win98 did? I'm talking about less > > that 150Mhz and less than 50Mb Ram... > > For the 50 Mb of RAM, maybe not "out-of-the-box", but maybe in the > futur, when it will be easier to disable more services, and with some > optimizations. And of course, if nothing from the outside add more > weight :) But for now, we are just trying to maintain the actual > situation :) > > For the 150 MHz, difficult to say, it's really ... slow and old :) I had > this type of computer when I was a kid :) > I only had a 1.25MHz CPU and 768 bytes of RAM in my computer as a kid. :) I would say a 300MHz CPU and 128 KiB of RAM is a more realistic lower limit, i.e. machines from earlier this century. For machines from the previous century I would suggest looking at TinyCore [1], or something like FreeDOS [2] and GEM [3]. [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com [2] http://www.freedos.org/ [3] http://www.deltasoft.com/ -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] What version of libltdl3 lubuntu handles?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:52:37 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > Yorvyk: > Hi and thanks for answering :) I was just popping it because on Ubuntu (at > least 10.04) i wasn't asked for that dependency... so i was just guessing > that something was missed on Lubuntu. Maybe you know something about it? > You'll have to install libltdl-dev then install the Epson driver. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] What version of libltdl3 lubuntu handles?
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:24:41 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > Devs: > > I've come today with something weird for me: today i've installed the > drivers for my Epson all-in-one, and when installed the last file, the > system said "need libltdl3_1.5.2-2" or above. Ok, this things happens... but > i've found that for Hardy the version of it is libltdl3_1.5.26-1 so i don't > understand much why in 11.04 the version is older. Maybe is not there? > It's not the system asking for that package, it's the epson drivers. The package you require is provided by libltdl-dev now. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libltdl3 -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:33:13 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > My vote: > Personally i prefer the Colourful with > bubbles<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Oneiric/Ozone?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=wallpaper_bubbles.png> > , > the other one looks quite "for old people" :) That's why I prefer it then :D It would look nicer with bubbles though. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:52:42 +0200 神癒礁湖 "(Rafael Laguna)" wrote: > He, he. Accepted EVERY opinion. Remember, I'm counting your votes. And > Yorvik, you're right. If there're 2 wallpapers, at least should be 2 > panels (another dark in progress). It's funny how difficult is matching > everybody. > > But my intention this time is not being sooo blue everywhere. I'm > thinking in a "sharper" environment. More contrast while keeping relax. > Elementary did it well combining dark and light colours. Let's see > ours... > TBH I'm not really that bothered about this sort of thing for myself. But, it is important for 'marketing' and reviews where screen-shots are used and give potential users their first impression. Grey panels tend to make the theme look incomplete and a bit old fashioned, so a bit of colour there would be nice. As I've said before, blue is not my favourite colour but, it is innocuous compared to others and works well on old (CRT) monitors. I would, however, like to see something in green at a later date :) -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:14:10 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi Rafael, > > as aways, excellent work! I also prefer the standard one. > > Regards, > > 2011/6/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) > > > ** > > Well, defending you opinion, I must say that designers already known that > > blueish backgrounds are better for long term working. The colourful and > > overbloated wallpapers may distract and (the most dangerous for us) make > > influence in our decissions. That's why most of my colleagues work with a > > simple, plain gray. > > > > I don't know if my opinion counts for this, but I'm agree with you. That's > > why I've made it [image: :)] > > > > Thanks, Jarred. > > > > > > -- > > [image: Go to rafaellaguna.com] <http://lubuntublog.rafaellaguna.com> > > [image: > > Go to Lubuntu.net] <http://www.lubuntu.net> > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > I think the standard one with bubbles would look nice and I don't particularly like the grey panels. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Update Manager persistently offers Mozilla browser
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:56:41 +0200 Kadrija Hrlovic wrote: > Hello everybody > > I've been using Lubuntu for a couple of months and I think it is great! > I always install offered updates, sometimes without even reading them but > yesterday I saw Mozilla browser, Firefox appmenu integration, and Firefox > English language pack offered. > Why are these updates available when I don't have Mozilla installed, just > the default Chromium? > Is there any way I can tell the Update Manager not to offer these packages > in the future. > I tried unchecking them but they always appear. > Thank you > Probably due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/766559 -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Is Bluetooth needed by default?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:32:45 +0200 神癒礁湖 "(Rafael Laguna)" wrote: > Me too. I usually synchro my Android via Bluetooth (not for transferring > files, but access contacts, etc). And many people (newbies) too, and > asked me about it. Literal words: "where is the bluetooth? Windows has > it". "Ok, ok, I'll install it for you". :) > > It's a cheap sized package with a great service that will increase > Lubuntu usability. My experience is that Win newcomers doesn't use > Synaptic at all, they're afraid of that app. Another question is > Software Center, it seems more friendly. > I've never used Bluetooth, I've only sync'd phones using USB and I never thought of Bluetooth keyboards and mice. I wasn't so much bothered about the size of it, I just thought —if it isn't used much there's no point having it on the disk. Software Centre requires a hex-core CPU and several gigabytes of RAM to run at anything close to a reasonable speed. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Is Bluetooth needed by default?
Does anybody actually use Bluetooth? Does it need to be on the default install? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:35:23 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le Friday 17 June 2011 à 00:31 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit : > > Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this > > week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. > > Ok, many people seem to prefer mails, so I'll follow each thread to > finalize the decisions for each component. > I've started 3 threads for those that wish to comment. Remember Lubuntu is supposed to be small and simple and run on impoverished machinery. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad Vs gEdit
While I love gEdit for Python or editing .po files, with it's highlighting, auto indenting etc. it does need quite a bit of CPU/RAM and is overkill for editing small config files, scripts, etc. Stick with Leafpad, simple clean, no mess. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. I don't like Pidgin so will install XChat for IRC. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LightDM Vs LXDM
Having thought about this it is probably best to go with LightDM if the rest of Ubuntu is going that way. There should be plenty of support for it and we'll be less isolated. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm bug
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:10:37 +0100 Yorvyk wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:50:40 +0100 > Yorvyk wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:31:03 +0100 > > Phill Whiteside wrote: > > > > > hiyas, > > > > > > yeah, I know. another 'odd' bug report, but like the guy himself - this > > > one > > > is a bit hard to pin down. > > > > > > The thread is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774388&page=9 > > > and > > > starts at #87 > > > > > > He has given as much information as he can, if any of the devs want him to > > > check out further things, I'm sure he would be agreeable. > > > > > > should it be placed as a pcmanfm bug? > > > > > Never noticed that before. I always open pcmanfm as normal and go to the > > Tools menu if I require 'root' access. > > Must not click Send before I've finished writing. > Must not click Send before I've finished writing. > Must not click Send before I've finished writing... > > Anyway is this a recent bug or was it in older versions? > I've tried starting PCManFM as root in various LXDE based distros and not all give this error, Fedora is OK for instance. It doesn't seem to to matter if it's PCManFM 9.8 or 9.9 either. So I assume it is something to do with the distros security settings. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Key 'super' (win logo) support
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:08:43 +0800 PCMan wrote: > LXDE by default use Ctrl+Esc. Doesn't Lubuntu incluide this? > Yup, works 'ere. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm bug
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:50:40 +0100 Yorvyk wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:31:03 +0100 > Phill Whiteside wrote: > > > hiyas, > > > > yeah, I know. another 'odd' bug report, but like the guy himself - this one > > is a bit hard to pin down. > > > > The thread is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774388&page=9 and > > starts at #87 > > > > He has given as much information as he can, if any of the devs want him to > > check out further things, I'm sure he would be agreeable. > > > > should it be placed as a pcmanfm bug? > > > Never noticed that before. I always open pcmanfm as normal and go to the > Tools menu if I require 'root' access. Must not click Send before I've finished writing. Must not click Send before I've finished writing. Must not click Send before I've finished writing... Anyway is this a recent bug or was it in older versions? -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm bug
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:31:03 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > hiyas, > > yeah, I know. another 'odd' bug report, but like the guy himself - this one > is a bit hard to pin down. > > The thread is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774388&page=9 and > starts at #87 > > He has given as much information as he can, if any of the devs want him to > check out further things, I'm sure he would be agreeable. > > should it be placed as a pcmanfm bug? > Never noticed that before. I always open pcmanfm as normal and go to the Tools menu if I require 'root' access. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:31:06 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > Just to summarize the list of proposed changes we have : > > 1) Display manager : Lightdm vs LXDM > 2) Dropping Xchat > 3) Text editor : Gedit vs Leafpad > > Let me know if I missed something. > > Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this > week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. > As I have no life, I'm available over the weekend for a meeting. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Couchdb on Oneiric?
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:18:37 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le Thursday 16 June 2011 à 09:56 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : > > I know why FF installed on a recent update but, why did couchdb. Is it > > supposed to be there or is it installed as a dependency of some thing else? > > > > I didn't see that on my Oneiric system. > Hmmm. This was on two machines. One was a clean install of Oneiric Alpha and the other, an upgrade from Natty. I probably wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for FF installing. Now, however, couchdb, erlang, etc. are autoremovable. All very strange :/ -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Couchdb on Oneiric?
I know why FF installed on a recent update but, why did couchdb. Is it supposed to be there or is it installed as a dependency of some thing else? -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Bad news for old Intel video
This passed me by, but is not good news for the sort of machines we are targeting. "In natty, we stopped Ubuntu development support for the 8xx chipset; these may still work OK with the -intel driver but we no longer field bug reports or backport fixes for them. This policy will continue in oneiric, but we'll re-evaluate for oneiric+1. Meanwhile, please work with upstream directly for 8xx problems." -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDM or Lightdm ?
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:39:42 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a bit late for that, but it still time to discuss such topic. > > LightDM [1] will be the next display manager for Ubuntu, and probably > Xubuntu (maybe Kubuntu also !). It will replace GDM which have a tight > dependency on GNOME. > > LightDM has the advantage to split the greeter (the UI part) and the > core (which do all the black magic for users, consolkit etc ...). You > can build a greeter which use GTK only, Qt, Webkit etc ... It's also > heavily developed this cycle. > > Last cycle I tested LightDM, but found that it was not ready. Also, LXDM > is now in a good shape. I tested it briefly on Oneiric, and it seems in > better shape now, and with RAM usage similar to LXDM (3.2 vs 2.3 Mb) > > To summarize : > > Advantages: > * More complete than LXDM > * Maintenance shared with Ubuntu and Xubuntu > * Heavily developed > > Disadvantages : > * New and less tested in Lubuntu than LXDM > * Dependant to Ubuntu team for changes : we are not free to modify the > DM, and it's possible that Ubuntu team introduce a change which > indirectly impact others flavors (remember Ubiquity changes for disk > requierement last cycle) > > IMO, if items I mentioned at the UDS are managed by LightDM [2], we can > try to switch for this cycle. If later in the cycle we discover that > there are problems, we can still switch again to LXDM. > > What do you think ? > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > [1] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM > [2] : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-lightdm > > I've been running Ubuntu Oneiric with lightdm for a while and it appears to behave it's self OK. Having had a bit of a read about it I don't see an advantage in either, from a user's point of view, and I'm a bit lost with the technical (dis)advantages. A few thoughts. With the change to GTK3 and the potential problems to be resolved with that, are we adding another headache for the few competent devs we have. Or would having Lightdm give us one less problem, as others in the Ubuntu community would be dealing with it and we wouldn't have to worry about lxdm either. Would sticking with what we know be better as lxdm doesn't have any real problems and performs the function for which it is intended. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:06:28 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > >From a very-humble user point of view: > > I use Libre Office + Gnumeric (Abiword can't convince me). As i read > recently, Libre Office is getting performance improvements, but the problem > is still the ram consumption vs the ram used by abiword (i use LO for writer > and slideshows, but gnumeric is a magnificient tool), LO is an option? It > could bring a slideshow editor to Lubuntu... Let individually decide but my > guess is that Lubuntu should remain with abiword & gnumeric for the concept. > Midori: in many ways it could be best than chromium, but as PCMAN said, it's > not stable at all . Try running Libre/open Office on a 160 MIB, 300MHz machine and I think you'll find it just becomes unpleasant. Abiword does everything I need of a word processor, and I install it on Ubuntu as Libre/Open Office is just cumbersome. As somebody who has had to sit through endless 'slide show' presentations I believe it may be one of the worst uses for a computer ever. I have Midori on one machine and keep trying it. It seems to take two steps forward then one back. It has a way to go before it is a real alternative to FF or Chromium, sadly. > Games: ace of penguins is faster than anything, but they're not "cool" at > all. Everybody i've shown this says something like "looks ugly, how can i > configure it?". There's nothing better around? Ace of Penquins is probably best described as functional ;) but, who needs 'looks' in card games anyway? There is however a set of icons being produced, slowly, for it. \o/ > PDF viewers: i'm with Rafael on this, Evince is the best choice there is > (besides, it can read a lot of formats, not only pdf ;) Evince does appear to be the most functional of PDF reader on Linux. > > xscreensaver makes my installations crash on every old computer i own, i > already said this on the mailing list: it's heavy and it consumes energy > displaying something fancy on the screen instead of just a black screen or > turn it off (clearly i don't like it...); but it locks the screen, so it's > necessary. I have nothing nice to say about screen-savers so will say nothing. > > xchat as i know is on discussion as i read recently... Pidgin would be the > option. I hate Pidgin and will install XChat if it isn't installed by default. I say stick with what we've got and lets get Lubuntu twiddled and polished. Remember when suggesting applications that the target is a couple of hundred MHz CPU and 128 MiB of RAM. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Power usage
Interesting? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=uxklbuntu_power&num=1 -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] X session crash when changing desktop background
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:31:49 +0100 ma...@clara.co.uk wrote: > Hi, > > There doesn't seem to be a link to report bugs at > https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop so I'm posting this here. > > The X session crashes if you try to change the desktop background to the > background colour. This happens for me both after booting a Lubuntu 11.04 > CD on an old Celeron 2.5GHz PC, and in a VirtualBox VM on a more modern > machine after installing Lubuntu. > > To reproduce the problem: > - Boot system > - Right-click over the desktop. Select Desktop Preferences. > - Change Wallpaper mode to "Fill with background colour only". > - The X session crashes/exits, dumping you back at the login screen. > After logging in again, the desktop background is unchanged (remaining an > image, not the background colour). > > Hi Mark > Known bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/718343 You may want to click 'me too'. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I detect a bug PCMANFM Lubuntu
On Tue, 31 May 2011 19:37:02 - "mr. Ed" wrote: > I detect a bug in pcmanfm > > pcmanfc is completely closed with error after a while inactive gvfs ssh > directory, if you try to access a folder gvfs of a connection that was > closed for a time, instead of shutting it should return to the desktop > or the folder of the user, the bug is annoying when working with > multiple tabs as they lose all open windows > > Do not know where to report this bug, if you guide me appreciate it, > I've seen that here in launpad.net not post a bug In a terminal type ubuntu-bug pcmanfm then follow the instructions. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu base/minimal desktop
Just been talking with someone about a spin of Lubuntu he made himself. It's basically the live CD with out the applications. The only stuff on it are the System Tools and Preferences menu, and Terminal and Leafpad in the Accessories menu. The idea being that people can install their preferred apps. or for use on Eeepc netbooks with 2 gig SSD where not every thing from the live CD may be needed. One thing we did wonder was, would people need a browser as part of the install or would they rather just pick the one they want from Synaptic. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 roadmap proposal
On Thu, 26 May 2011 23:07:40 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le Thursday 26 May 2011 à 09:15 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : > > > > I'm concerned that this is too soon and won't really be useful -- what > > would we gain by having alpha testers spend time testing this, if the > > whole build infrastructure change and the GTK3 changes are not > > present? > Alpha 1 is never a very interesting alpha, even for Ubuntu. But it may > be interesting to have one, for example to see the behavior of LXDE with > GTK2, with some GTK3 programs. > > But I'm agree, no need to spend a long time on it, and we can add > instructions in the Alpha 1 announcement, to clarify this. > I think an Alpha 1 is needed to provided something for people to install in order to get started testing rather than changing Natty to Oneiric in sources.list. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues
On Thu, 26 May 2011 12:13:45 -0400 Tim Bernhard wrote: > Just a quick note. I've been using Lubuntu 32 and 64 bit on my 11.6" > Gateway EC1458u and Acer 1810TZ laptops with out any issues. I purchased a > new laptop and found a few bugs. I tested with both 64-bit installed and > 32-bit live. > > Here is the short list: > > 1) Can't adjust screen brightness. The application shows changes, but > doesn't actually affect the display. > > 2) If I try to "mouse" settings, the Input Device Prefs applications > crashes. (I only tested with trackpad. will try mouse later.) > > 3) No scrolling on the on the touch pad. > > 4) Can set tool bar style/window list to display icons only. I can select > the option, but it has no affect. > > My guess is that there are some compatibility issues with this machine (Acer > 3820T). I'll do some more testing when I have a little more time and see if > there are any known problems with running Ubuntu in general with this > machine. > > Tim Have you seen this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline a quick read, shows links to a thread that mentions the touch pad problem (no solution though) and an Acer group on Launchpad. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility
On Tue, 24 May 2011 09:14:07 -0700 Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On 05/24/2011 01:17 AM, Yorvyk wrote: > > > A 700 MHz PIII Celeron with 256 MiB of PC100 RAM and a 100 MHz drive > > is quite usable. A 200 MHZ PIII Celeron and 128 MiB of 66MHz RAM > > with a 33 MHz drive is dog slow. If you add a screen reader into > > the mix I think the later set-up would become unusable. > > I'm now confused. > > (A) I am not used to seeing drive (presumably hard disk drive) > performance being measured in Mhz -- what *is* this? > > The common ways to gauge hard drive performance that I know of are: > > * sustained data transfer rate (in MBytes/sec) > * sustained I/O operations per second (IOPS/sec) > > Lower level (and IMO less useful) measures include average seek time, > and rotational latency... those are measured in milliseconds, not MHz. > Conventional hard drives are (generally speaking) never bottlenecked by > their theoretical maximum interface data transfer speed, so this is not > a useful drive performance metric (but *is* sometimes measured in MHz... > so maybe that is what you are using?). > No idea why I wrote MHz for the drive spec and not MB/s. > (B) This message seem to imply that "accessibility" means "screen > reader", but there is no specification saying that which Phill has > pointed us to yet. > > I suggest that blindness or lack of visual acuity are not the only > things requiring accessibility accommodation in an OS. They *might* be > the #1 priority for accessibility improvements to Lubuntu -- but without > a clear specification (blueprint), we do not know this! > > Jonathan > I was just using the screen reader as an example. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility
On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:58:58 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hiyas, > > I'd really like to see lubuntu 11.10 come > out with as much accessibility as is possible on "A Pentium II or Celeron > system with 128 MiB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may > yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu" > The problem with minimum specs is what people are prepared to put up with. A 700 MHz PIII Celeron with 256 MiB of PC100 RAM and a 100 MHz drive is quite usable. A 200 MHZ PIII Celeron and 128 MiB of 66MHz RAM with a 33 MHz drive is dog slow. If you add a screen reader into the mix I think the later set-up would become unusable. I'll try this later and see. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:14:33 +0100 Yorvyk wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:33:33 +0200 > Julien Lavergne wrote: > > > Le Sunday 15 May 2011 à 04:19 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : > > > My 1st draft, > > > > > > Yes, it is only a skeleton. Before I put flesh on the bones > > > with all the links etc. Is this okay as the template? > > > > Thank you. Some comments : > > > > IMO, we should had the last version on top of the page. We should > > encourage people to use the last version. > > > > Don't forget to add a comment about community ISO (alternate & 64 bits). > > > > Also, you should remove the LTS mention on 10.04. It's not technically a > > LTS (only Ubuntu and Kubuntu are). It could make confusion for users, we > > don't do all the security support that LTS have. But, we try to support > > it as much as possible, mostly by providing a backport PPA (LXDE PPA) > > and some updates to the Lubuntu PPA. I can do the text for this if you > > want. > > > This isn't true. > > "As support for i586 chip sets has been dropped from the kernel by the kernel > developers for Linux from the 10.10 series onwards, 10.04 Has all the > details." > It would appear I forgot the rest of this :) It's Ubuntu that's dropped the i386, i486, i586 support not the kernel/Linux developers. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:33:33 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le Sunday 15 May 2011 à 04:19 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : > > My 1st draft, > > > > Yes, it is only a skeleton. Before I put flesh on the bones > > with all the links etc. Is this okay as the template? > > Thank you. Some comments : > > IMO, we should had the last version on top of the page. We should > encourage people to use the last version. > > Don't forget to add a comment about community ISO (alternate & 64 bits). > > Also, you should remove the LTS mention on 10.04. It's not technically a > LTS (only Ubuntu and Kubuntu are). It could make confusion for users, we > don't do all the security support that LTS have. But, we try to support > it as much as possible, mostly by providing a backport PPA (LXDE PPA) > and some updates to the Lubuntu PPA. I can do the text for this if you > want. > This isn't true. "As support for i586 chip sets has been dropped from the kernel by the kernel developers for Linux from the 10.10 series onwards, 10.04 Has all the details." -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:33:16 -0400 Kendall Weaver wrote: > Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the > gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If > there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this > is released to the public. > Too late http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-64bit-image-available-for-download/ -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu problems
On Tue, 10 May 2011 18:37:41 -0400 gs wrote: > lubuntu stopped reconizing my video card after 10.04 i have a intel 845 > ge when i install lubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 video only has one resolution > any ideals anyone it only share 8 megs of memory with the video I have an i845 based machine and had similar problems. Have a look at #6 on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9595973 as far as "root@lubuntu:~$ reboot". If this doesn't work get back to us. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
