Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:21:31 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 It's official, we have a new mailing list :)
 
 lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
 
 If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
 subscribe to this new mailing list (See
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).
 
 The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
 and the team will be close soon.
 
 Thanks for your attention :)
 
A polite request.
Please don't cross-post to the two lists, this will lead to all manner of 
confusion.

Ta.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Happy New Year 2012

2012-01-01 Thread Yorvyk
 
Just updated and seen the wallpaper :)  Nice job.

Happy New Year everybody!


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586

2011-12-22 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:24:42 +
Martin Olesen skovproduk...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/12/21 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
  On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300
  Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;)
 
  Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete
  (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it,
  so there was no market there).
  Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource
  releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04)
  Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS
  *ubuntu could exist for i586...
  I doesn't sound completely crazy to me.
 
  Is there any call for i586 kernel?  Has anybody complained of it's absence? 
   I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify 
  it's inclusion.
 
 
 If I understand this correctly we are dealing with processors 12
 (twelve) years old or more having a clock frequency of less than 300
 MHz. Such a computer is hardly usable for any practical purpose.
 
 I'd say we (that is, the Buntu community in general) should forget
 about them and focus on getting better support for new hardware.

Lubuntu is intended to support older hardware.   There are, however,  recent 
machines, based on the Geode LX chip , that are not fully i686 compatible.  
But, how many is the problem.  I can understand the Ubuntu devs not wishing to 
support large numbers of kernels, especially as there are now a number of ARM 
kernels in the repos to be supported.  Like the PAE kernel problem, with the 
Celeron M, are there enough users to test and support the appropriate kernels.
I really don't know which way to go on this one to be honest.  But, in both 
cases, it's not just about last centuries hardware.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE 'running' on the Nook

2011-12-21 Thread Yorvyk
Thought this may be of interest, still a way to go before it runs fully but 
still interesting.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/ubuntu-running-on-the-nook-tablet/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

2011-12-21 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:27:21 +0400
amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update. As
 for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I
 have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux.
 
Depending on the manafacturer therare a variety of ways of updating the BIOS.

Some provide a bootable ISO which uses FreeDOS or you may be able to concoct 
your own using FreeDOS.   http://www.freedos.org/

I've had some success with FlashROM which is available in the repos. 
http://flashrom.org/

Another option is to temporary install Windows if you have a copy that came 
with the machine, especially if the manufacturer's site has an automated tool 
for telling you which updates are required.  Until recently I've been using a 
'60 day' evaluation copy of WinXP for this purpose if the above doesn't work.  
Sadly a lot of recent machines require Vista or Win 7 for this sort of tool.

Even if the BIOS upgrade doesn't mention your problem it may well be worth 
updating as manufacturers don't always tell you everything the BIOS update 
resolves.  It may also be useful to look at firmware updates for the hard drive 
as well.

The other thing to look at is cleaning the vents, heat-sink and fan to ensure 
good airflow.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC problems and where to report

2011-12-21 Thread Yorvyk
Where should one report LSC bugs.  I can't find any reported on Launchpad.

The problems.
There is a surfeit of information on some apps. eg. Penguin Taipei and other 
Ace-of-Penguin apps as well as others.
No version number in About.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How LSC works?

2011-12-21 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:19:04 +
Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:49:36 -0300
 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  One thing I need often is the presence of Lame on my system. So, i go to
  LSC to install lame but can't see it!!
  I go to USC to verify and i come to realize that the same search parameter
  returns different things... (just try lame in LSC and USC to see it ;)
  I'm guessing that this happens with other searches too.
  My point is: LSC should show the same apps that USC with the same search
  parameters, right?
  
 With the same search parameters they should show the same results but, they 
 don't appear to have the same parameters.  They appear to be searching on 
 different fields.
 
The search does seem a bit bizarre.  I've just tried both Lubuntu and lubuntu 
and it finds nothing.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC some apps missing bug, and where to report bugs for LSC

2011-12-21 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:16:23 +
Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have had a similiar experience; I literally just filed the bug here:
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/907037
 
 You can report bugs here (providing you have LP account):
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+filebug
 
 as it is purely a Lubuntu project.
 
 If it is a 'runtime' bug i.e. there is an error, not if there is a missing 
 feature, attach the output of lubuntu-software-center in your bug report. 
 Also, try the latest bzr branch release before reporting (currently rev. 77 
 in the trunk)
 
Found the bug reports.  I was searching using centre not center.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586

2011-12-21 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;)
 
 Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete
 (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it,
 so there was no market there).
 Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource
 releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04)
 Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS
 *ubuntu could exist for i586...
 I doesn't sound completely crazy to me.
 
Is there any call for i586 kernel?  Has anybody complained of it's absence?  I 
would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify it's 
inclusion.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Docs team

2011-12-19 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:44:03 +
Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi Lubunteers,
 
 as always, an area that people just expect 'to happen', I noted that on
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks#Current_Tasks_For_Anyone
 Lubuntu
 is not even mentioned. I know that we have had input into various areas in
 the past... Is there any one willing to take this one on as P.O.C. (Point
 Of Contact)? As said, I'll hold P.O.C. for the QA side, but we really do
 need someone to step forward for this one.
 
Perhaps a brief explanation of what a POC is required to do may be in order, as 
I can't find any details any where.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users

2011-12-17 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:08:57 -0500
Philip exequeryp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 First, let me say thank you to everyone on the Lubuntu team.  I have
 been using Lubuntu for over a year now, and it is quite possibly the
 fastest, most efficient operating system I have ever used (and I have
 used many).  Keep up the extraordinary work.
 
 A few weeks ago on this list, a question was raised about the current
 number of Lubuntu users.  I was a little surprised that no one had a
 clear idea, and that estimates varied widely.  It seems a little
 dangerous from a development standpoint to have so little information
 about your userbase, doesn't it?  Wouldn't it be valuable to determine
 a way of gathering data about how many people use Lubuntu, and how
 they use it?
 
 I don't ask this because I want to burden you with another task.  I
 may be able to offer some help myself.  I like Lubuntu, and intend to
 use it well into the future.  But operating systems have demonstrated
 a clear tendency to eventually lose touch with and alienate their
 userbase.  I think Lubuntu developers, being better than average,
 might recognize this common problem, and take steps to safeguard
 against it.  One safeguard might be the collection of this data.
 
 What do you think?
 
 Philip Fielding
 
Every Linux distribution would like to know how many users it has.  Short of it 
'phoning home' every so often nobody seems to have any idea how to get numbers 
of users.  Estimating numbers of users from downloads is fraught with problems. 
 I've installed both Lubuntu and Ubuntu a several machines from the one 
download of each ISO.  Others may download the ISO to try or do a review and 
never use it again.  Some people use the Distrowatch Page Hit Ranking as an 
indication of usage but, as pointed out on Linux Outlaws this is more an 
indication of 'mind share' rather than usage.  So it's just a case of wild 
guess work in the end.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users

2011-12-17 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:32:48 -0200
Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all
 
 I don't know if it is possible, but is there a way of Canonical count
 how many IPs does an update? Maybe some specific update, like
 software-center, lxterminal... I know that some computers still
 doesn't use internet, but most of them use.
 

That won't give an accurate figure either.  Companies, universities, etc. will 
have a local repo or cache and only download the update once for thousands of 
machines.  Even some home users do this if they have few machines.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

2011-12-16 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:20:10 +0400
amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 Long story short:
 
 1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu
 Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm
 willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea here
 and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :)
 
Join the Ubuntu marketing team and adapt their stuff and use the skills that 
have been developed there.  Having joined the Ubuntu family I see no point in 
isolating ourselves from it.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Arrows missing from scroll bar

2011-12-14 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:10:12 +
Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13 December 2011 22:13, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Anybody else noticed the  up/down arrows missing from the scroll bar in
  Precise?
  If so what package do I file a bug against?
 
 
 
 is it in any particular app, or just all scrollbars?

It's on all apps.  But, I've only just noticed it and it may have some thing to 
do with the unity/gnome rubbish that came with an update.  I'm going to 
re-install the alpha and see if it's still there.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] unity-greeter crashes Precise Alpha/dailies

2011-12-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:03:28 -0800
∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I put out a bug on this issue but haven't heard a peep. Not sure if
 there is a similar issue with Ubuntu which may be why it's not getting
 any attention. Anyone out there testing that can confirm?
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/899742
 
Confirmed.
I've was looking through Synaptic to see what unity-greeter is and noticed 
there are quite a few unity bits and pieces installed.  There appears to be 
about a dozen of them with unity in the package name.  I would imagine this is 
just a dependency/recommends issue.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
 
 Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download
 the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand
 true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how
 often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
 daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much
 except waiting - any other website will be slow.
 
Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have 
an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever 
you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Arrows missing from scroll bar

2011-12-13 Thread Yorvyk
Anybody else noticed the  up/down arrows missing from the scroll bar in Precise?
If so what package do I file a bug against?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minutes from the Lubuntu Team meeting on 2011-11-30

2011-12-01 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:17:54 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You can find the logs of the meeting on
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Meetings/2030
 
Sorry about my absence early in the meeting.  Every time I type a message I got 
disconnected.

Regarding the 'basic guide and index' topic.  I've asked a couple of the users 
that requested this and didn't really know what they wanted if 
https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/index.html is what they're looking 
for and they said it was.  So that problem can now be solved.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released

2011-11-30 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:16:11 -0300
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 El 30/11/11 13:15, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) escribió:
  WUT?
 Exactly my reaction!!
 
LOL WTF :D

By next May we should be on 11.04!

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu one - A suggestion.

2011-11-30 Thread Yorvyk
A suggestion from Peter.

Does anyone know what the plans are for Ubuntu One and Lubuntu? I would like 
to see a client that can sync only when executed for Lubuntu.

Seems like a good idea to me but, not sure how hard it would be it implement.  
Thoughts.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Software center doesn't think it's connected to internet

2011-11-28 Thread Yorvyk
Anybody any ideas on this problem?

Installed the PPA – software center looks lovely – but that’s about all it 
does. Tried to install several different software and all failed stating I was 
not connected to the internet when in fact my internet is working perfectly 
fine. from 
http://frenchfortunecookie.wordpress.com/2011/11/24/lovin-lubuntu#comments

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[Lubuntu-desktop] A short review and request of LSC

2011-11-24 Thread Yorvyk
Just seen this short review of Lubuntu and one of the few requests for a 
software centre.  I've pointed them to the PPA in the comment section.  Nice 
title to the article.  It would make a good marketing line for Lubuntu.

http://frenchfortunecookie.wordpress.com/2011/11/24/lovin-lubuntu/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding powerpc ISO for 12.04 ?

2011-11-23 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 07:38:04 -0800
∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/23/2011 02:24 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
  There are some requests to add a powerpc version of Lubuntu ISO. We
  didn't do this in the past because there was no testers for the ISO.
  It seems that people are interesting to use it and to test it during
  the 12.04 development cycle. If the persons could confirm me this
  interest, I can request to add powerpc to the list of Lubuntu version.
  To be official, the powerpc ISO needs be tested during Alpha, Beta and
  Final ISO testing. You can see the procedure on the wiki :
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures It's quite simple, and
  doesn't require any technical skills. Of course, I can help people
  during the testing period if they want.
  Let me know if there are still an interest for testing this ISO, so we
  can start the tests with Alpha 1 (next week).
 
 I'll do it! For that matter, I could probably rally some other troops,
 too. Just say the word..
 
Same here.  I think Lubuntu would be ideal for some of the old PPC macs as 
Apple were never very generous with RAM or disk space.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: 431 users!

2011-11-21 Thread Yorvyk


Begin forwarded message:

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:53:02 +0100
From: Attila Varga arti...@gmail.com
To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 431 users!


I have 10 pc with lubuntu at home with no internet connection.

2011/11/20 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
 According to omgubuntu there are at least 431 users of Lubuntu :)
 2.7% of respondents said they used Lubuntu.  I know these things should be 
 taken with a pinch of salt but, it's one of the few figures we have to tell 
 us how Lubuntu is actually doing.

 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/poll-result-15800-votes-cast-unity-named-most-popular-desktop/


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: 431 users!

2011-11-21 Thread Yorvyk


Begin forwarded message:

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:31:48 -0500
From: William Mcleod williammcl...@gmail.com
To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 431 users!


It's the only OS on my production machine, I use it very extensively actually.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:50:35 +
Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 According to omgubuntu there are at least 431 users of Lubuntu :)
 2.7% of respondents said they used Lubuntu.  I know these things should be 
 taken with a pinch of salt but, it's one of the few figures we have to tell 
 us how Lubuntu is actually doing.
 
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/poll-result-15800-votes-cast-unity-named-most-popular-desktop/
 
  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: 431 users!

2011-11-21 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:41:08 +0530
mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  From: Attila Varga arti...@gmail.com
  To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 
  I have 10 pc with lubuntu at home with no internet connection.
 
 
 Then, we should take a real survey to prove them that they are wrong ;]
 
 Great work Attila :)
 
 
Real survey?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-20 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:20:35 -0800
Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 On 11/20/2011 07:29 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
 
  On 20/11/2011 19:31, Yorvyk wrote:
 
 
  If a CPU can't support PAE it can't support more than 4GiB of RAM,
  so the PAE part of the kernel shoudn't come into play.
 
  
 
  From what I understand, PAE has a different set of paging structures
  compared to non-PAE. Does the kernel know to fall back onto non-PAE
  mode if it cannot enable PAE on a CPU?
 
 
 Which way to do things is basically a compile time option for the
 kernel, as I understand it.  So, if a PAE kernel is used, it can *only*
 be run on processors that support the additional PAE instructions.  Even
 if a machine only has 128MB RAM, it you try to run a PAE kernel on it,
 and the CPU lacks the PAE instruction, it is not going to run.
 
 The real question is: are there really any CPUs in general purpose
 desktops or laptops, in any significant quantity at all, that Ubuntu
 11.10 i386 kernels work on, which PAE kernels do not work on?
 
 Other than the early 400MHz Pentium-M, which are pretty rare, I don't
 think anyone has seen such a CPU yet.  Via C3 and AMD Geode LX already
 cannot run current Ubuntu 11.10 default kernels anyway.
 
Having trawled the net for info on this, I have no problem with dropping the 
non-PAE kernel as it appears to only effect a very,very, very small number of 
users.  Whether these are current or potential users is going to be very hard 
to find out, unless they start jumping up-and-down screaming.
My one concern was the alleged overhead of the PAE kernel but, this appears, 
from the various benchmarks I've seen, to be trivial and probably unnoticeable 
in normal use.  I have installed PAE kernels on a couple of machines, one 
oneiric and one precise, and have not noticed any problems so far.
I would imagine by the time 12.04 is no longer supported, 32 bit ubuntus may 
well be limited to the ARM anyway.




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[Lubuntu-desktop] 431 users!

2011-11-20 Thread Yorvyk
According to omgubuntu there are at least 431 users of Lubuntu :)
2.7% of respondents said they used Lubuntu.  I know these things should be 
taken with a pinch of salt but, it's one of the few figures we have to tell us 
how Lubuntu is actually doing.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/poll-result-15800-votes-cast-unity-named-most-popular-desktop/

 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-18 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:03:38 -0500
Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Stephen,
 
 I found that to enter GRUB you simply press and hold SHIFT.  I added the
 parameter to the end of the the boot command and booted they system and it
 did the same thing.Lubuntu splash and then the screen goes blank.
 
 
 Tim
 
 On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Smally 
 eco.st...@fastwebnet.itwrote:
 
   On 11/17/2011 04:49 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote:
 
  Hi Everyone,
 
   I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401.  This thing is an
  old Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive and
  64mb of RAM.  I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in to bring
  the RAM up to 192mb.  I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso.  It took a
  while but the install completed.
 
   The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following
  message:
 
   vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not
  enabled! - upgrade BIOS or use force=1
 
 
   After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then the
  screen goes blank.
 
   Any ideas?
 
   Thanks,
 
   Tim
 
 
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  try to enter into the grub (you have to hit some keys if it doesn't show
  up automatically, something like Canc, google for it), go on the line that
  says L/Ubuntu * with Linux * (* means the version of the system, 11.10
  with linux 3 or so on), enter e (to edit the entry) and add force=1 after
  quiet splash.
 
  this because the message says:
 
  upgrade BIOS or use force=1
 
  This mean that you grub is too old for Lubuntu, you have to upgrade it, or
  you can add force=1 at the start to avoid the problem.
  if it works i will tell you how to make it persistent (by default when you
  edit an entry the changes you made aren't persistent).
 
  Stephen Smally
 
  P.S. sorry for the different font
 

It would appear there isn't really a solution for this problem, from what I've 
found googling. :(
To cheer you up though, todays xkcd http://xkcd.org/ :)

My only sugestion is to try the alternate install, rather than the minimal 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-18 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:39:40 +
Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Besides, green would look like Mint LXDE. I think black is a good thing, but 
 that's me.
 
I like green as well but, suse also use it as their corporate colours.  Black 
also looks nice , CrunchBang Linux shows how well this works.  We could of 
cause go community orange :)
The problem with green or black themes, is they often don't look good on old 
CRT monitors.  Whereas blue appears to look OK even when the gamma settings are 
somewhat adrift.  From the users I have dealt with over the years, blue themes 
tend not to create any real reaction - of love or hate - that black or green 
themes can.

Stick with blue, the themes we've had so far have all been very pleasant and 
usable even though I'm not a real fan of blue, it doesn't annoy me like some 
colours.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-18 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:07:03 +0700
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Thanks Mario.
 
 Currently, the situation is not very nice, the mailing list is not open 
 anymore, and the PPA is too common. We have to change the mailing or the PPA 
 location, or both.
 
 About the mailing list, the best solution is probably to switch to one (or 1 
 for user help, and 1 for devel ?) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/, since it's a 
 more standard mailing list (no need to be member of the team).
 
It would be nice to have the mailing list on https://lists.ubuntu.com this will 
bring Lubuntu on par with the other official derivatives and may make it easier 
for people to find, and subscribe.   
What would be the difference be between the user and devel lists?  Having the 
two often leads to cross posting when there is a relatively small development 
team and user base.  This can be seen on the LXDE lists.

 The PPA will probably disappears with the time, we need more specialized 
 PPAs, instead of one with many various stuff in it.
 
This would be helpful.  PPAs with all-sorts in are only slightly short of 
useless, as you end you having to pin some applications to stop them upgrading 
in order to try a new version of another.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-15 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:12:32 +
Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 8 PM GMT is fine for me also.
 
 Regards,
 
I prefer 20:00 UTC :D

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-14 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:43:05 +0700
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting on 
 IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's needed.
 I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it 
 less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
 
 Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it during 
 the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and Internet 
 connection :)
 
 I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because it's 
 the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after some 
 time (like 3 months).

We could alternate the times.  7PM one week 7AM another?
 
 I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting on 
 the 23th.
 
 It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when you 
 have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the schedule, 
 so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this time.
 
 Let me know what you think about this.
 
It doesn't matter what time the meetings are, they will be inconvenient for 
some.  As long as the logs of the meeting are available for others to comment 
on, everybody should be able to have a say.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

2011-11-12 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400
amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:
 
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205
 
 This guy (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075) has offered
 his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team about
 that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.
 
 Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website, PLEASE
 do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
 www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS,
 it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans
 but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
 update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.
 
 This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.
 
 So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do love
 Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do
 that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what will
 happen if you do what others are suggesting?
 
 Now, I'm not going to reply
 mörgæshttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075but one of the team
 who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.
 
 Thank you so much!
 
 ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!
 
 P.S.
 I'll inform him (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075) that
 I sent his post and waiting for a reply.
 
I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some mock-ups 
of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that overcome the 
percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other people will never 
achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is very small and very 
busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put the amount of work into 
the last couple of releases that I would of liked due to real life.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:29:10 -0300
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 Proposal for browser benchmarks:
 
 - First of all, run the browsers without any add-on
 - Take starts time
 - Watch lxtask for memory usage  cpu. Inside Chromium about:memory shows
 the memory used by each browser running too. Htop?
 - Watch the general behaviour
 - Sites: youtube, gmail, google, facebook, ubuntu forums (each alone, by
 groups of two, three, four and finally five - I don't think that old
 machines could support easily more than 5 tabs opened!)
 
 Let me know if this is enough, what else should be added or if i'm just
 talking nonsenses here :P
 
Amount of physical RAM

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:51:02 -0400
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm not very fan of a change unless we have a strong consensus for another 
 browser. But, this is my opinion :
 - We should only consider Chromium or Firefox, because they have a strong 
 upstream and are well maintained. Browser is a very important part of a 
 system, and we really don't have time to do maintenance on it. Adopting 
 Midori for example, means we have to do the maintenance on Ubuntu (triage 
 bugs, testing, maybe some packaging ...).
 - Benchmark are needed, because just saying it's light, doesn't mean it's 
 always light. Also, the memory usage for Chromium is special, because it 
 shares memory (there is an article from a dev of Chromium somewhere in the 
 Web which explain it).
 - Finally, it needs to be light on old hardware. Remember, it's the main 
 target for Lubuntu. So far, Chromium seems better on this type of machine.
 
 So far, I don't see advantages to switch to Firefox. Of course, if the 
 benchmarks show a real difference, I may reconsider my opinion.
 

Another thing to consider, is this vacancy at Canonical for a WebKit/Chromium 
Software Engineer.

https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICALcws=1rid=376

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:02:45 -0500
Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Make sure you are doing your tests with a clean browser profile. An
 easy, safe way to do that is to create a new user and login to the new
 account.
 
Also need to ensure everybody is using the same, and latest, versions of the 
browsers.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-05 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:18:12 +0700
Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I prefer Chromium, it's good on old machine. Firefox is almost useless on
 my 256MB RAM laptop.
 
I've also found Chromium to be better than Firefox when there is less than 512 
MiB of RAM.  I haven't really checked memory/CPU usage but Chromium is more 
responsive with 6-8 tabs open.  With less than 256 MiB of RAM Firefox really 
seems to struggle with only 3-4 tabs open.  This isn't just a case of a PIII 
CPU struggling either.  I have a 'brand new', never out of it's box, 2003 
vintage, Dell 4600 2.4Mhz P4 with 256 MiB of RAM, AGP8 video and Firefox is 
slow in this as well.

As much as I like Firefox I think Chromium is the way to go for Lubuntu.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I can use Lubuntu for remaster?

2011-11-04 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:49:20 +0100
Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 As far as I know is everyone free to alter and redistribute any given
 distribution when all the proper people/teams are thanked. You can read all
 about it in the GPL(v3?) licence supplied with the installation disk. It
 should also be readable somewhere in the system, but I don't know where
 that can be found.
 
Also to be considered is trademark policy, infomation at 
http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] R: Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb'

2011-09-11 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:41:52 +
Arief Rachman br41...@gmail.com wrote:

 They're files with extension .chm and .pdb. They're not .doc files.
 --Original Message--
 From: eco.st...@fastwebnet.it
 To: br41...@gmail.com
 To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 ReplyTo: eco.st...@fastwebnet.it
 Subject: R: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb'
 Sent: Sep 11, 2011 23:34
 
 what kind of files are they? what kind of apps had generates them? you h
 ave to look at some apps similar to the original (e.g. if i have .doc fi
 le generated by microsoft word office, an office app will probably open 
 it).
 
 Regards
 
 Stephen Smally
 
 Messaggio originale
 Da: br41...@gmail.com
 Data: 11/09/2011 18.17
 A: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Ogg: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read #39;chm#39; and #39;pdb#3
 9;
 
 I'm a newbie and I really love my new lubuntu. But I have some problems 
 here. I can't open my 'chm' and 'pdb' files. Is there any I can do? Woul
 d you give me favor? Thank. 
 


Have a look at http://www.fileinfo.com/ it has a reasonably information on what 
applications can open what files.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 menus

2011-09-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:04:19 +0200
神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Julien. I've been watching about the bug on the menus you've
 experimented, and I cannot reproduce it. Does anybody has the same problem?
 I mean, having blank labels on menus.
 
Are talking about Bug #818869?  If so I have the problem and it also occurs in 
SuSE 11.4

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 released

2011-09-02 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:02:02 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 1 is also available for
 testing. You can find it on
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/
 
Torrents aren't working: 
Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker
This for the i386 Desktop and Alternative ISO.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 released

2011-09-02 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:02:02 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 1 is also available for
 testing. You can find it on
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/
 
Torrents aren't working: 
Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 released

2011-09-02 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:31:24 +0100
Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:02:02 +0200
 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 1 is also available for
  testing. You can find it on
  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/
  
 Torrents aren't working: 
   Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker
 This for the i386 Desktop and Alternative ISO.
 
This appears to have been corrected as they are now running :)


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Not good news re. old mesa drivers

2011-08-27 Thread Yorvyk
This is not good news,

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTg0Mg

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Not good news re. old mesa drivers

2011-08-27 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:23:51 -0300
Gabriel Rousseau gabrielper...@gmail.com wrote:

 How old are those graphic cards?
 
 ..
 Gabriel Salles
 
 2011/8/27 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 
  This is not good news,
 
  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTg0Mg
 
Intel i810 was still on sale this century.  The others I'm not sure about, 
probably older.  Unfortunately these are the video cards found in the sort of 
machines that tend to be offered for recycle and the target for Lubuntu.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Alternate CD images exist -- please test!

2011-08-27 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:34:08 -0700
Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/oneiric-alternate-i386.iso
 
 Thanks to some recent work by Colin Watson on this, specifically for
 Lubuntu, we now have automatically created daily Lubuntu Alternate CD
 images.  These should install on low RAM machines more easily than the
 Live CD images do.
 
 They are very very new.  Please test, and report your results.  These
 images are a BIG benefit of our using the official build system this
 cycle, requiring zero additional effort for us to generate them.
 
Great!  Just what the world has been waiting for.

 Incidentally, if anyone has PowerPC hardware available, testing the
 daily PowerPC builds, both LiveCD and AlternateCD, would be good.
 
Somebody just asked me today about this for an old iMac :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Not good news re. old mesa drivers

2011-08-27 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT)
Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That's definitely bad news for me :^(
 
 I currently still maintain 24 machines with P4M800 integrated chips and, if 
 I'm reading that right, I'm about to need some major hardware upgrades.
 
 I also maintain a few machines with older Intel 8xx chips. Most of the 
 machines with VIA chips are ones I upgraded myself for seniors to bring them 
 out of the Win 98 and ME stone-age.
 
 I may be tarred and feathered if I can't keep these machines working ;^)
 
It could get troublesome. The VESA driver should still work as an alternative, 
but it can be rather slow :(

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] support needed in any ?

2011-08-24 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:24:10 +0200
Horatio Karijoredjo hos...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 Thanks Yorvik,
  
 I will start on the English to Dutch translation.
 Is there anyone you could recommend who does the packaging stuff for Lubuntu 
 or Ubuntu ?
  
Further info.
The translation of Osmo is done upstream http://clayo.org/osmo/
and the other none LXDE parts can be done via Launchpad.

For packaging it may be an idea to go to the  #ubuntu-motu IRC channel and have 
a chat on there. 

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Apps menu not functioning - Oneiric

2011-07-31 Thread Yorvyk
The applications menu on both my Oneiric test systems has malfunctioned.  When 
I click the icon I get a empty white box in the bottom left hand corner.  Can't 
find anything on Launchpad about this so I'm assuming it's something I've done. 
 Any pointers?

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Mailing list

2011-07-31 Thread Yorvyk
Now we appear to be official will the mailing list be moving from launchpad.net 
to lists.ubuntu.com?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Apps menu not functioning - Oneiric

2011-07-31 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:14:05 +0300
Markus Brummer markus.brum...@helsinki.fi wrote:

 Hi,

 
 On 07/31/2011 01:52 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
  The applications menu on both my Oneiric test systems has malfunctioned.  
  When I click the icon I get a empty white box in the bottom left hand 
  corner.  Can't find anything on Launchpad about this so I'm assuming it's 
  something I've done.  Any pointers?
 
 I had the same problem, got better by moving the panel back to bottom.
 
Thanks, that works.  It also works when positioned on the left or right but, 
not on the top.

Bug #818869



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?

2011-07-29 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:52:54 -0400
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 
   we need a simplex synaptic or a lighter USC?
 
 
 A lighter USC - synaptic if far too complicated for the average user :/
 
In what way is Synaptic 'far too complicated'?

To make USC faster all that needs doing is the unnecessary bits removed.  Get 
rid of the reviews and pretty pictures and, viola, Synaptic!


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?

2011-07-29 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:23:46 -0400
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/7/29 Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it
 
  This mean, for example, hide the libs or other not-app packages by default?
 
 
 Exactly! It must make the difference between packages and applications
 for it to be user-friendly :)

Have a look at making the 'Sections' part of Synaptic list only applications 
and you'll have achieved what's required.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 700 mhz laptop with 256 ram running lubuntu

2011-07-06 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 01:10:23 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Monday 04 July 2011 à 18:48 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a
 écrit :
  Question to the devs: do you think that maybe one day the
  optimizations could make a nice and usable system (say Lubuntu)
  running with the requeriments that Win98 did? I'm talking about less
  that 150Mhz and less than 50Mb Ram... 
 
 For the 50 Mb of RAM, maybe not out-of-the-box, but maybe in the
 futur, when it will be easier to disable more services, and with some
 optimizations. And of course, if nothing from the outside add more
 weight :) But for now, we are just trying to maintain the actual
 situation :)
 
 For the 150 MHz, difficult to say, it's really ... slow and old :) I had
 this type of computer when I was a kid :)
 
I only had a 1.25MHz CPU and 768 bytes of RAM in my computer as a kid. :)

I would say a 300MHz CPU and 128 KiB of RAM is a more realistic lower limit, 
i.e. machines from earlier this century.  For machines from the previous 
century I would suggest looking at TinyCore [1], or something like FreeDOS [2] 
and GEM [3].

[1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com 
[2] http://www.freedos.org/
[3] http://www.deltasoft.com/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] What version of libltdl3 lubuntu handles?

2011-07-01 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:52:37 -0400
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yorvyk:
 Hi and thanks for answering :) I was just popping it because on Ubuntu (at
 least 10.04) i wasn't asked for that dependency... so i was just guessing
 that something was missed on Lubuntu. Maybe you know something about it?
 
You'll have to install libltdl-dev then install the Epson driver.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] What version of libltdl3 lubuntu handles?

2011-06-30 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:24:41 -0400
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 Devs:
 
 I've come today with something weird for me: today i've installed the
 drivers for my Epson all-in-one, and when installed the last file, the
 system said need libltdl3_1.5.2-2 or above. Ok, this things happens... but
 i've found that for Hardy the version of it is libltdl3_1.5.26-1 so i don't
 understand much why in 11.04 the version is older. Maybe is not there?
 
It's not the system asking for that package, it's the epson drivers.  The 
package you require is provided by libltdl-dev now.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libltdl3

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates

2011-06-29 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:33:13 -0400
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 My vote:
 Personally i prefer the Colourful with
 bubbleshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Oneiric/Ozone?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=wallpaper_bubbles.png
 ,
 the other one looks quite for old people :)
That's why I prefer it then :D
It would look nicer with bubbles though.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates

2011-06-28 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:14:10 +0100
Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com wrote:

 Hi Rafael,
 
 as aways, excellent work! I also prefer the standard one.
 
 Regards,
 
 2011/6/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com
 
  **
  Well, defending you opinion, I must say that designers already known that
  blueish backgrounds are better for long term working. The colourful and
  overbloated wallpapers may distract and (the most dangerous for us) make
  influence in our decissions.  That's why most of my colleagues work with a
  simple, plain gray.
 
  I don't know if my opinion counts for this, but I'm agree with you. That's
  why I've made it [image: :)]
 
  Thanks, Jarred.
 
 
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I think the standard one with bubbles would look nice and I don't particularly 
like the grey panels.  

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Is Bluetooth needed by default?

2011-06-19 Thread Yorvyk
Does anybody actually use Bluetooth?  Does it need to be on the default install?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Is Bluetooth needed by default?

2011-06-19 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:32:45 +0200
神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Me too. I usually synchro my Android via Bluetooth (not for transferring
 files, but access contacts, etc). And many people (newbies) too, and
 asked me about it. Literal words: where is the bluetooth? Windows has
 it. Ok, ok, I'll install it for you. :)
 
 It's a cheap sized package with a great service that will increase
 Lubuntu usability. My experience is that Win newcomers doesn't use
 Synaptic at all, they're afraid of that app. Another question is
 Software Center, it seems more friendly.
 
I've never used Bluetooth, I've only sync'd phones using USB and I never 
thought of Bluetooth keyboards and mice.  I wasn't so much bothered about the 
size of it, I just thought —if it isn't used much there's no point having it on 
the disk.

Software Centre requires a hex-core CPU and several gigabytes of RAM to run at 
anything close to a reasonable speed.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] LightDM Vs LXDM

2011-06-18 Thread Yorvyk
Having thought about this it is probably best to go with LightDM if  the rest 
of Ubuntu is going that way.  There should be plenty of support for it and 
we'll be less isolated.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat

2011-06-18 Thread Yorvyk
No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat.  I 
don't like Pidgin so will install XChat for IRC. 

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad Vs gEdit

2011-06-18 Thread Yorvyk
While I love gEdit for Python or editing .po files, with it's highlighting, 
auto indenting etc. it does need quite a bit of CPU/RAM and is overkill for 
editing small config files, scripts, etc.  Stick with Leafpad, simple clean, no 
mess.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default

2011-06-18 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:35:23 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Friday 17 June 2011 à 00:31 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit :
  Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this
  week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list.
 
 Ok, many people seem to prefer mails, so I'll follow each thread to
 finalize the decisions for each component.
 
I've started 3 threads for those that wish to comment.  Remember Lubuntu is 
supposed to be small and simple and run on impoverished machinery.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm bug

2011-06-17 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:50:40 +0100
Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:31:03 +0100
 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  hiyas,
  
  yeah, I know. another 'odd' bug report, but like the guy himself - this one
  is a bit hard to pin down.
  
  The thread is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774388page=9 and
  starts at #87
  
  He has given as much information as he can, if any of the devs want him to
  check out further things, I'm sure he would be agreeable.
  
  should it be placed as a pcmanfm bug?
  
 Never noticed that before.  I always open pcmanfm as normal and go to the 
 Tools menu if I require 'root' access.

Must not click Send before I've finished writing.
Must not click Send before I've finished writing.
Must not click Send before I've finished writing...

Anyway is this a recent bug or was it in older versions?

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Couchdb on Oneiric?

2011-06-16 Thread Yorvyk
I know why FF installed on a recent update but, why did couchdb.  Is it 
supposed to be there or is it installed as a dependency of some thing else?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-07 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:06:28 -0400
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 From a very-humble user point of view:
 
 I use Libre Office + Gnumeric (Abiword can't convince me). As i read
 recently, Libre Office is getting performance improvements, but the problem
 is still the ram consumption vs the ram used by abiword (i use LO for writer
 and slideshows, but gnumeric is a magnificient tool), LO is an option? It
 could bring a slideshow editor to Lubuntu... Let individually decide but my
 guess is that Lubuntu should remain with abiword  gnumeric for the concept.
 Midori: in many ways it could be best than chromium, but as PCMAN said, it's
 not stable at all .
Try running Libre/open Office on a 160 MIB, 300MHz machine and I think you'll 
find it just becomes unpleasant.  Abiword does everything I need of a word 
processor, and I install it on Ubuntu as Libre/Open Office is just cumbersome.
As somebody who has had to sit through endless 'slide show' presentations I 
believe it may be one of the worst uses for a computer ever.
I have Midori on one machine and keep trying it. It seems to take two steps 
forward then one back.  It has a way to go before it is a real alternative to 
FF or Chromium, sadly.

 Games: ace of penguins is faster than anything, but they're not cool at
 all. Everybody i've shown this says something like looks ugly, how can i
 configure it?. There's nothing better around?
Ace of Penquins is probably best described as functional ;) but, who needs 
'looks' in card games anyway?  There is however a set of icons being produced, 
slowly, for it. \o/

 PDF viewers: i'm with Rafael on this, Evince is the best choice there is
 (besides, it can read a lot of formats, not only pdf ;)
Evince does appear to be the most functional of PDF reader on Linux.

 
 xscreensaver makes my installations crash on every old computer i own, i
 already said this on the mailing list: it's heavy and it consumes energy
 displaying something fancy on the screen instead of just a black screen or
 turn it off (clearly i don't like it...); but it locks the screen, so it's
 necessary.
I have nothing nice to say about screen-savers so will say nothing.


 xchat as i know is on discussion as i read recently... Pidgin would be the
 option.
I hate Pidgin and will install XChat if it isn't installed by default.

I say stick with what we've got and lets get Lubuntu twiddled and polished.

Remember when suggesting applications that the target is a couple of hundred 
MHz CPU and 128 MiB of RAM.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Power usage

2011-06-05 Thread Yorvyk
Interesting?

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=uxklbuntu_powernum=1

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 roadmap proposal

2011-05-27 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 26 May 2011 23:07:40 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Thursday 26 May 2011 à 09:15 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
  
  I'm concerned that this is too soon and won't really be useful -- what
  would we gain by having alpha testers spend time testing this, if the
  whole build infrastructure change and the GTK3 changes are not
  present? 
 Alpha 1 is never a very interesting alpha, even for Ubuntu. But it may
 be interesting to have one, for example to see the behavior of LXDE with
 GTK2, with some GTK3 programs.
 
 But I'm agree, no need to spend a long time on it, and we can add
 instructions in the Alpha 1 announcement, to clarify this.
 
I think an Alpha 1 is needed to provided something for people to install in 
order to get started testing rather than changing Natty to Oneiric in 
sources.list.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu base/minimal desktop

2011-05-27 Thread Yorvyk
Just been talking with someone about a spin of Lubuntu he made himself.  It's 
basically the live CD with out the applications.  The only stuff on it are the 
System Tools and Preferences menu, and Terminal and Leafpad in the Accessories 
menu.  The idea being that people can install their preferred apps. or for use 
on Eeepc netbooks with 2 gig SSD where not every thing from the live CD may be 
needed.  
One thing we did wonder was, would people need a browser as part of the install 
or would they rather just pick the one they want from Synaptic.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-26 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 26 May 2011 12:13:45 -0400
Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a quick note.  I've been using Lubuntu 32 and 64 bit on my 11.6
 Gateway EC1458u and Acer 1810TZ laptops with out any issues.  I purchased a
 new laptop and found a few bugs.  I tested with both  64-bit installed and
 32-bit live.
 
 Here is the short list:
 
 1) Can't adjust screen brightness.  The application shows changes, but
 doesn't actually affect the display.
 
 2) If I try to mouse settings, the Input Device Prefs applications
 crashes.  (I only tested with trackpad.  will try mouse later.)
 
 3) No scrolling on the on the touch pad.
 
 4)  Can set tool bar style/window list to display icons only.  I can select
 the option, but it has no affect.
 
 My guess is that there are some compatibility issues with this machine (Acer
 3820T).  I'll do some more testing when I have a little more time and see if
 there are any known problems with running Ubuntu in general with this
 machine.
 
 Tim

Have you seen this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline a 
quick read, shows links to a thread that mentions the touch pad problem (no 
solution though) and an Acer group on Launchpad.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility

2011-05-24 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:58:58 +0100
Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hiyas,
 
snip
  I'd really like to see lubuntu 11.10 come
 out with as much accessibility as is possible on A Pentium II or Celeron
 system with 128 MiB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may
 yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu
 
The problem with minimum specs is what people are prepared to put up with.  A 
700 MHz PIII Celeron with 256 MiB of PC100 RAM and a 100 MHz drive is quite 
usable.  A 200 MHZ PIII Celeron and 128 MiB of 66MHz RAM with a 33 MHz drive is 
dog slow.  If you add a screen reader into the mix I think the later set-up 
would become unusable.  I'll try this later and see.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility

2011-05-24 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 24 May 2011 09:14:07 -0700
Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 On 05/24/2011 01:17 AM, Yorvyk wrote:
 
  A 700 MHz PIII Celeron with 256 MiB of PC100 RAM and a 100 MHz drive 
  is quite usable.  A 200 MHZ PIII Celeron and 128 MiB of 66MHz RAM 
  with a 33 MHz drive is dog slow.  If you add a screen reader into
  the mix I think the later set-up would become unusable.
 
 I'm now confused.
 
 (A) I am not used to seeing drive (presumably hard disk drive)
 performance being measured in Mhz -- what *is* this?
 
 The common ways to gauge hard drive performance that I know of are:
 
  * sustained data transfer rate (in MBytes/sec)
  * sustained I/O operations per second (IOPS/sec)
 
 Lower level (and IMO less useful) measures include average seek time,
 and rotational latency... those are measured in milliseconds, not MHz.
 Conventional hard drives are (generally speaking) never bottlenecked by
 their theoretical maximum interface data transfer speed, so this is not
 a useful drive performance metric (but *is* sometimes measured in MHz...
 so maybe that is what you are using?).
 
No idea why I wrote MHz for the drive spec and not MB/s.

 (B) This message seem to imply that accessibility means screen
 reader, but there is no specification saying that which Phill has
 pointed us to yet.
 
 I suggest that blindness or lack of visual acuity are not the only
 things requiring accessibility accommodation in an OS.  They *might* be
 the #1 priority for accessibility improvements to Lubuntu -- but without
 a clear specification (blueprint), we do not know this!
 
 Jonathan
 
I was just using the screen reader as an example.  


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files

2011-05-16 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:14:33 +0100
Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:33:33 +0200
 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  Le Sunday 15 May 2011 à 04:19 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
   My 1st draft,
   
   Yes, it is only a skeleton. Before I put flesh on the bones
   with all the links etc. Is this okay as the template?
  
  Thank you. Some comments :
  
  IMO, we should had the last version on top of the page. We should
  encourage people to use the last version.
  
  Don't forget to add a comment about community ISO (alternate  64 bits).
  
  Also, you should remove the LTS mention on 10.04. It's not technically a
  LTS (only Ubuntu and Kubuntu are). It could make confusion for users, we
  don't do all the security support that LTS have. But, we try to support
  it as much as possible, mostly by providing a backport PPA (LXDE PPA)
  and some updates to the Lubuntu PPA. I can do the text for this if you
  want.
  
 This isn't true.
 
 As support for i586 chip sets has been dropped from the kernel by the kernel 
 developers for Linux from the 10.10 series onwards, 10.04 Has all the 
 details.
 
It would appear I forgot the rest of this :)
It's Ubuntu that's dropped the i386, i486, i586 support not the kernel/Linux 
developers.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files

2011-05-15 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:33:33 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Sunday 15 May 2011 à 04:19 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
  My 1st draft,
  
  Yes, it is only a skeleton. Before I put flesh on the bones
  with all the links etc. Is this okay as the template?
 
 Thank you. Some comments :
 
 IMO, we should had the last version on top of the page. We should
 encourage people to use the last version.
 
 Don't forget to add a comment about community ISO (alternate  64 bits).
 
 Also, you should remove the LTS mention on 10.04. It's not technically a
 LTS (only Ubuntu and Kubuntu are). It could make confusion for users, we
 don't do all the security support that LTS have. But, we try to support
 it as much as possible, mostly by providing a backport PPA (LXDE PPA)
 and some updates to the Lubuntu PPA. I can do the text for this if you
 want.
 
This isn't true.

As support for i586 chip sets has been dropped from the kernel by the kernel 
developers for Linux from the 10.10 series onwards, 10.04 Has all the details.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu problems

2011-05-11 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 10 May 2011 18:37:41 -0400
gs stran...@att.net wrote:

 lubuntu stopped reconizing my video card after 10.04 i have a intel 845 
 ge when i install lubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 video only has one resolution 
 any ideals anyone it only share 8 megs of memory with the video

I have an i845 based machine and had similar problems.
Have a look at #6 on this thread 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9595973 as far as root@lubuntu:~$ 
reboot.  If this doesn't work get back to us.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-11 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:33:16 -0400
Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote:

 Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
 gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If
 there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this
 is released to the public.
 
Too late 
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-64bit-image-available-for-download/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposal to use Claws Mail as default Email Client instead of Slypheed

2011-05-10 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 10 May 2011 07:36:15 +0200
Michał Ćwikliński mic...@cwiklinski.it wrote:

 I support this idea.I use this program, since I've started using Lubuntu. 
 It's 
 lightweight and easy to use,
 
...and dog slow with more than a few emails.  I have 4 dozen mailing lists I'm 
subscribed to, some with 1000s for emails in.  Claws can quickly bog the 
machine down updating them, whereas Sylpheed copes a lot better.
I'm with Julian on this one, better the devil you know.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UDS sessions for Lubuntu (today !)

2011-05-10 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 10 May 2011 09:32:08 +0200
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:59:01 +0200
 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  I already submitted 2 sessions :
  
  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-integrate-ubuntu-ecosystem
  The goal is to finish the Lubuntu integration in Ubuntu ecosystem by
  using all tools available, such as the build image system :)
  
  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-clean-lubuntu
  Discuss all the possibilities to optimize / speed up Lubuntu.
  
  Be sure to subscribe the blueprints if you want to be informed about the
  progress of them.
 
 Just a reminder, the 2 sessions will be today on 15:00 and 17:00 Budapest 
 Time : http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-10/
 You can find details about remote participation on 
 http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
 Details about the sessions are on the 2 blueprints (see above), and the 2 
 linked specifications.
 
Sadly I'll be busy this afternoon so can't join in :/


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] RES: Black laptop screen when installing Lubuntu 11.04

2011-05-03 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 3 May 2011 13:11:02 -0300
Fabio Silva fabio_flor...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Same thing.. 
 
 My dv6000 do not install de new version, then I tried to install regular 
 ubuntu, same result. I guess it is due to some screen resolution config. I 
 will check foruns when I get a free time.
 
  
 
 De: lubuntu-desktop-bounces+fabio_floripa=hotmail@lists.launchpad.net 
 [mailto:lubuntu-desktop-bounces+fabio_floripa=hotmail@lists.launchpad.net]
  Em nome de eigenroot
 Enviada em: terça-feira, 3 de maio de 2011 10:58
 Para: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Assunto: [Lubuntu-desktop] Black laptop screen when installing Lubuntu 11.04
 
  
 
 Hi everyone, 
 
  
 
 I was trying to install Lubuntu 11.04 in my laptop. However, after booting 
 into LiveCD and select Install Lubuntu, the I found screen just went black. 
 However, the CDROM was still working. I could not continue my installation 
 just because of that. And I don't know what kind of diagnosis information I 
 should post here. Could anyone please help? Thanks very much. 
 
We really need to know what the graphics card is in your machines in order to 
help. 
I think it may need  'nomdeset' selecting for the boot option.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing network manager icon

2011-04-04 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:58:44 -
macaque maca...@volny.cz wrote:

 Network manager icon of my Lubuntu 11.04 beta 1 cannot be displayed.
 
 http://i54.tinypic.com/vr99oh.png

Known problem I'm afraid 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libappindicator/+bug/741385 and 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libappindicator/+bug/746495



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Beta obligatory weird fault

2011-04-01 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:28:53 +0200
UndiFineD undifi...@gmail.com wrote:

 there is a separate ubuntu title font available now, have you tried it ?
 
 2011/4/1 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
  The title bars etc aren't set the to Ubuntu font family.  So, using OpenBox 
  config I tried change the Window Title to Ubuntu Bold.  It sets it to 
  Ubuntu Medium, I can get Bold Italic but not Bold.  All the other 
  variations work.
 

The Ubuntu Title font is an old font from five years ago and look/s/ed nasty.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Resignation

2011-03-30 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:53:15 -0500
Zach Kriesse zkrie...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hello all, now I know that I've kinda sent an email like this before but 
 the time has come for me to say goodbye. Recent events have occurred 
 where I simply do not have the time to contribute nor the desire to 
 act like I am...because that's really just lying to not only my fellow 
 team-mates but also myself. I will leave the Doc FG for the BT to the 
 council, and I will decide on a lead for Ubuntu Youth...I'm sorry but I 
 need to really just work on getting back in school, finding a job, and 
 starting a career for myself. I simply do not have the time to do 
 anything else. It was nice to know all of you, it's been fun and 
 awesome. Farwell
 
 -- 
 Cheers!
 
 ~zkriesse
 
Life does get in the way of things at times, doesn't it :)

Good luck for the future.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing tray icons

2011-03-29 Thread Yorvyk
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:29:38 +0200
Michał Ćwikliński mic...@cwiklinski.it wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I'm curious, if You had noticed the same problem as I do - some of
 icons in tray of my Lubuntu 11.04 alpha 3 cannot be displayed (look at
 the attachement). Especially for network manager (and weather applet -
 att.). Have You noticed something like this? 

Yes.  The network manger icon went missing in a recent update.  I don't have 
the weather applet installed.  This also effects Xubuntu.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Artwork for 11.04

2011-03-18 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:45:28 +
Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:33:18 +0100
 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Since we only have 1 proposal for the artwork, the choice will not be
  too difficult :) 
  
  We will have Ozone theme by Raphael :
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Natty/Ozone
  
  I'll begin to update the packages with this. Installer slideshow will
  also be updated to match the theme.
  
  There is still one thing to decide : the wallpaper.
  Ozone have already a wallpaper, but other wallpapers was proposed with
  the Ubuntu Artwork team : http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-8/pool/
  
  IMO, we could keep the Ozone one, because it matches the other parts of
  the theme, but if you think 1 wallpaper proposed is good enough, speak
  up now :) If there is discussion, I'll set up a IRC meeting on Tuesday,
  to take the final decision (like it was previously planned).
  
 I propose we go with the Ozone one as default and pick 3 from 
 http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-8/pool/ to create an optional 'art pack', 
 as there are some rather nice ones there.
 
My proposals for an 'art pack' are, in particular order:-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/leogg/5519247170/in/pool-1610102@N22/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erinofearth/5530523498/in/pool-1610102@N22/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leogg/5518421640/in/pool-1610102@N22/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Artwork for 11.04

2011-03-17 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:33:18 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Since we only have 1 proposal for the artwork, the choice will not be
 too difficult :) 
 
 We will have Ozone theme by Raphael :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Natty/Ozone
 
 I'll begin to update the packages with this. Installer slideshow will
 also be updated to match the theme.
 
 There is still one thing to decide : the wallpaper.
 Ozone have already a wallpaper, but other wallpapers was proposed with
 the Ubuntu Artwork team : http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-8/pool/
 
 IMO, we could keep the Ozone one, because it matches the other parts of
 the theme, but if you think 1 wallpaper proposed is good enough, speak
 up now :) If there is discussion, I'll set up a IRC meeting on Tuesday,
 to take the final decision (like it was previously planned).
 
I propose we go with the Ozone one as default and pick 3 from 
http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-8/pool/ to create an optional 'art pack', as 
there are some rather nice ones there.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Really odd keyboard and mouse issue

2011-03-16 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:04:51 +1000
Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16 March 2011 16:00, UndiFineD undifi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Somehow I get the feeling 'scheduler' is in place here
  are you running a custom kernel ?
 
 Not that I'm aware of, uname -r suggests my current kernel is
 2.6.35-27 generic pae. I'm not knowledgeable enough to start rolling
 my own.
 
Why the pae kernel, do you have more than 4 GiB of RAM, of not try the generic 
kernel.  
Is it USB keyboard and mouse?
Have a look at the makers site and see if there is a BIOS update for this or 
similar problems.
Has the machine had a good clean lately, it's surprising what dust (dead skin) 
can do to computers.  Nearly half the intermittent problems I deal with are 
cured by a good clean.  Reseating connectors and memory also cures a large 
percentage of problems.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-i18n] State of Transifex

2011-03-16 Thread Yorvyk
For anybody on the list involved in the translation of LXDE components that 
isn't on the i10n list.  We are NOT using Transifex any more.  See below and/or 
the blog post about the change at http://blog.lxde.org.


Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:23:19 +0100 (CET)
From: Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.se
To: lxde-l...@lists.sf.net
Cc: lxde-i...@lists.sf.net
Subject: [Lxde-i18n] State of Transifex


Reporting back on the status.

I have been working with informing people in the Transifex set-up that we 
are not using that platform any more.
I have sent the message included below to all team coordinators (I might 
delve down and send it to all team members too...).
I have posted the information as an announcement.
I have removed the Transifex links from the wiki page Category:Translation 
and added a note to the Transifex how-to stating that it is deprecated.
I have denied the team creation requests and sent the same message to the 
requesters as to the current leaders.

On the Pootle side I have added en_gb and jv as new languages. Synced some 
sources. This work will continue and end up in a series of Request for 
translation sent to the lxde-i18n ML (this will probably happen mid 
April).

Other ideas for things I should (try to) do?


[ message sent to team leaders ]---
Subject: LXDE not using Transifex
Body:
Hi
It has been decided that LXDE will not use Transifex at all for the 
foreseeable future.
Transifex is and was a good tool and supported our needs in a really good 
way, they have on the other hand changed the work-flow entirely and we can 
not use it properly any more.

For both online and offline translation we still provide access via Pootle 
at http://pootle.lxde.bsnet.se - it is integrated with the version control 
of the components but require some extra steps in your work-flow.
See the introduction at http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Pootle_crash_course.

We also urge you to join the LXDE Internationalisation mailing list at 
lxde-i...@lists.sourceforge.net - this is tha main channel for translation 
related information. The sign-up can be done at 
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-i18n.

Thank you for showing interest in LXDE and for your contributions this 
far.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] QA Test Case LXAppearance - RFC

2011-03-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:01:46 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le samedi 12 mars 2011 à 16:14 +, Yorvyk a écrit :
  I've added a test case for LXAppearance to the QA section here
  http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/LXAppearance if anybody
  would like to try it and/or comment.
 
 Thank you :)
 I added some tiny adjustments to them (a ? when you ask a question,
 and 1 action by line). If you think about other tests cases, go and add
 them :) 
 
Thanks.

I'm currently working on some more.  Having a look through the tests for other 
distros to see what can be adapted.

Anything you'd particularly like testing?


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lost networking and bash history alpha 3

2011-03-13 Thread Yorvyk
Just switched on a machine I was using yesterday to test a few things and found 
it had no networking or bash history, both of which worked yesterday.  I have 
tried a couple of other installations on other machines and the only other one 
to display this behaviour is also a clean Alpha 3 install.  The others are 
upgrades from Maverick or Alpha 1.  All Lubuntu Natty installations were 
updated yesterday.  I can't find any mention of this in Launchpad, so is it 
some thing I've done or have I update at the wrong time.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] disk space need

2011-03-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:44:45 +0100
神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote:

 As said on the blog:
 
 
 I can't upgrade my netbook Positivo MOBO (hard drive 2gb only)
 with lubuntu 10.04 because new versions need more a lot of space
 (1,5gb  3,2gb). Why?
 
 
 Does Natty need more space than Maverick?
 
It doesn't take much more space than previous versions.  The 3.2GB is just some 
arbitrary amount of space to give you a bit of room for swap etc.  I've 
installed in to a 3GB partion OK.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lost networking and bash history alpha 3 [Solved]

2011-03-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:19:45 +
Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:
 
  On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:59:19 +
  Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
  
Just switched on a machine I was using yesterday to test a few things
  and
found it had no networking or bash history, both of which worked
  yesterday.
 I have tried a couple of other installations on other machines and the
  only
other one to display this behaviour is also a clean Alpha 3 install.
   The
others are upgrades from Maverick or Alpha 1.  All Lubuntu Natty
installations were updated yesterday.  I can't find any mention of this
  in
Launchpad, so is it some thing I've done or have I update at the wrong
  time.
   
  
   If you run:
  
   less ~/.bash_history
  
   do you see your history?
 
  Yep, upto the last command I typed in before I ran the update.
 
 
 
 
 Try renaming the file, then run some commands (even cd and ls will do)
 
 Does the history regenerate ok?

I was about to try that when I looked at the permissions, so I knew what 
permissions to give the new file.  For some reason I'd no permissions at all.  
Reset the permissions to read/write and all is OK.  No idea what caused it as 
there doesn't appear to be an update related to it.
The networking loss was solved by reinstalling dhcp3 and NM, after creating a 
static IP etc.  Again no recent update seems to be related to this.
Odd that it only effected the two installs from the Alpha 3 CD and not those 
that had been upgraded from earlier releases.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lost networking and bash history alpha 3 [Solved]

2011-03-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:40:50 +
Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:
 
  On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:19:45 +
  Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
  
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:59:19 +
Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Yorvyk 
  yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
wrote:

  Just switched on a machine I was using yesterday to test a few
  things
and
  found it had no networking or bash history, both of which worked
yesterday.
   I have tried a couple of other installations on other machines and
  the
only
  other one to display this behaviour is also a clean Alpha 3
  install.
 The
  others are upgrades from Maverick or Alpha 1.  All Lubuntu Natty
  installations were updated yesterday.  I can't find any mention of
  this
in
  Launchpad, so is it some thing I've done or have I update at the
  wrong
time.
 

 If you run:

 less ~/.bash_history

 do you see your history?
   
Yep, upto the last command I typed in before I ran the update.
   
   
  
  
   Try renaming the file, then run some commands (even cd and ls will do)
  
   Does the history regenerate ok?
  
  I was about to try that when I looked at the permissions, so I knew what
  permissions to give the new file.  For some reason I'd no permissions at
  all.  Reset the permissions to read/write and all is OK.  No idea what
  caused it as there doesn't appear to be an update related to it.
  The networking loss was solved by reinstalling dhcp3 and NM, after creating
  a static IP etc.  Again no recent update seems to be related to this.
  Odd that it only effected the two installs from the Alpha 3 CD and not
  those that had been upgraded from earlier releases.
 
 
 Hey I can't code but I can fix stuff :)

Learn to code, then you can break stuff :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] It sort of looks like Unity

2011-03-12 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:09:54 +
Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 Pretty cool. :)Could you try removing the launchers in the top pannel and 
 make the unity dock slightly larger? :PNow we need to make it default on 
 11.10 :DJust kidding.
 -Glenn
 
  Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:48:14 +
  From: yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
  To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] It sort of looks like Unity
  
  Some more messing about with themes and things http://imagebin.org/142453 
  inspired by Unity.
  
I've been showing Lubuntu to a few people, generally older people with 
hand-me-down computers who are quite happy with it.  One of the comments from 
the younger people though, is that it looks a bit old fashioned or 
plain/boring.  So I just wanted to demonstrate how customisable it is.  
I will, when time allows, document this.  

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[Lubuntu-desktop] QA Test Case LXRandR - RFC

2011-03-12 Thread Yorvyk
I've added a test case for LXRandR to the QA section here 
http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/LXRandr if anybody would like to 
try it and/or comment.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] QA Test Case LXTasks - RFC

2011-03-12 Thread Yorvyk
I've added a test case for LXTasks to the QA section here 
http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/LXTasks if anybody would like to 
try it and/or comment.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] QA Test Case LXAppearance - RFC

2011-03-12 Thread Yorvyk
I've added a test case for LXAppearance to the QA section here 
http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/LXAppearance if anybody would like 
to try it and/or comment.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] It sort of looks like Unity

2011-03-11 Thread Yorvyk
Some more messing about with themes and things http://imagebin.org/142453 
inspired by Unity.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu QA Testcases

2011-03-08 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:57:46 +0100
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le lundi 07 mars 2011 à 09:24 +, Yorvyk a écrit :
  What I meant was, is there any specific place to report the tests have
  been completed.
 Not yet, but you can create a sub section on
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing.
 
OK, will do. 


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