[Lubuntu-desktop] Missing help/docs

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
I can't remember if this has been discussed before, but the following have no documentation installed in 11.04. Sylpheed - sylpheed-doc not installed. Mtpaint - the program is unable to find the documentation so either it is not installed or in the wrong place. Gnumeric - yelp not installed.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Chris
Hai everyone, Agreed the screensaver shouldn't be energy consuming, it should be the opposite. I like Mod4 + L for locking btw. Cheers, Chris Druif I like 2011/2/25 Marcelo Zacarias da Silva marc...@ciagri.usp.br On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré wrote: The

[Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Does anyone know how to output sound through HDMI in Lubuntu? I've done it a couple of times with Ubuntu in the past, but couldn't find anything that would allow me to do it in Lubuntu. There is nowhere to adjust sound preferences that I could see. I tried alsamixer, but didn't see anything

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Chris
Hai Tim, Welcome on the mailing-list first of all. You seem to have a pretty clear image in what might be efficient. You might enlighten us with your definition of an efficient OS. Love to hear your thoughts. Cheers, Chris On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 15:10, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Hey Chris, I'm forwarding this to the list for everyone to see. But include it for those who want a CPU hogging screen beauty =P LOL, that's funny. I guess that's what I was thinking. But maybe most people wouldn't miss it anyway. If it does stay I would say disable it by default for sure.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:12 -0500 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: What should Lubuntu do? I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree 100%. But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for their OS and that not everyone will use it

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
For me it's really three main areas. First is battery consumption under normal use. I want my 8 hour battery to last a close to 8 hours, not less than 6 like it did with Ubuntu. Second, I look at the user interface. I hate having two task-bars when everything I need will fit in one. I never

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Chris
Hai Tim, I thought I replied to all, not just you. But it's like I said mainly for CRT screens. Cheers, Chris P.S.: my funny bone was tingling =P Op 25 feb. 2011 16:00 schreef Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com het volgende: ___ Mailing list:

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:12 -0500 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: So my question is what dose the average user expect their OS to do out of the box? Pretend you are putting it on someone's machine.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:20 - Chris Druif cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Hai everyone, Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try to give the full experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with a character map installed, I would like to suggest that

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing help/docs

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 12:35 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Sylpheed - sylpheed-doc not installed. Good catch, should be included (I'll fix it) Mtpaint - the program is unable to find the documentation so either it is not installed or in the wrong place. Please report a bug. Gnumeric - yelp

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with and without pidgin-libnotify ? Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it

[Lubuntu-desktop] RES: Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Fabio Silva
[Quote] What should Lubuntu do? I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree 100%. But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older hardware (Lubuntu is too nice not to use it on modern

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread PYROcomp
For me the MOST important function would be support for older machines. Regards, REXMO .___. / \ | O _ O | /\_/\ .' / \ `. / _| |_ \ (_/ | | \_) \ / __\_-_/__ ~;/ \;~ Don't mess with the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/2/25 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager It's more about the visual between the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
For me the MOST important function would be support for older machines. We have to start from one fact: if Lubuntu can run in an acceptable way in an old machine, it will run incredibly on a newer machine. Let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI out) For me,

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/2/25 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:20 - Chris Druif cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Hai everyone, Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try to give the full experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread PYROcomp
qoute- You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to use desktop in your own language. /quote Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Well, at least 10.04 runs well on it... don't know if there's any project to compile kernels for old cpus... 2011/2/25 PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com qoute- You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to

[Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on (was: Re: Ask yourself...)

2011-02-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:17 -0600 PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? Yes. As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest kernels... Maybe we need to add this to the Lubuntu FAQ, or something. It is already on the main Lubntu

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:17 -0600 PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: qoute- You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to use desktop in your own language. /quote Does the 11.04 edition in fact

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
I've read about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1332261 Hope it works for you. -- attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to :

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks! I'll try that when I get home tonight. I thought I might need to read up on alsamixer. I didn't know about the m switch. Hopefully this will work. Does anyone know off the top of their head what package I can add to gain access to the system sound setting via the main menu? I would

[Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
These are just an annoyances that I can't get used to. Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, then the menu will be very nearly spot on. The menu icon. It's very nice but, there appears to be a lack of contrast or something. It looks like it's been left in

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on

2011-02-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 25 Feb 2011 13:52:19 -0600, PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this would be a worthwhile project: compiling support for i586? Let me know, if there is enough belief in support for i586 I will suggest it to the sl4mm3r5 group. Wow! Do you have any idea of the time it would take

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 15:56 -0500, Tim Bernhard a écrit : Also, could such a package be included in future Lubuntu distros? Most of people doesn't deal with all the details of the sound. They just want up and down for the level :) Currently, I found 2 GUI for the sound management : -

[Lubuntu-desktop] Inclusion of guvciew

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi, With the removal of cheese, we have nothing to test a webcam, especially on the live-cd. Someone proposed to include guvcview. It seems to be a good choice : quite simple and not too much dependencies. Did someone already test it ? I don't have a webcam, I'll be glad if someone have

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:25:38 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 20:59 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, then the menu will be very nearly spot on. You mean the 2 sub-menus itself, of

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Phil Lockhart
Got to agree with Yorvyk on the menu icon lacking something. I find it a little difficult to see on my test machine's monitor. On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 20:59 +, Yorvyk wrote: These are just an annoyances that I can't get used to. Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Phil Lockhart
sorry, I mean the Ozone menu icon. I've fallen back to the default as it's easier to see On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 23:25 +0100, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 20:59 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, then the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on

2011-02-25 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas Jonatahan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System requirements sums up the decision taken. stuff will need 'back-porting' but it is not an insurmountable task. The kernel is also supported as an LTS, so we have pleantly of time :) Dropping this onto such a small team as Lubuntu is was not