Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Marcelo Zacarias da Silva
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré wrote: > The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the > default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For > me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only f

[Lubuntu-desktop] Missing help/docs

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
I can't remember if this has been discussed before, but the following have no documentation installed in 11.04. Sylpheed - sylpheed-doc not installed. Mtpaint - the program is unable to find the documentation so either it is not installed or in the wrong place. Gnumeric - yelp not installed. Th

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Chris
Hai everyone, Agreed the screensaver shouldn't be energy consuming, it should be the opposite. I like Mod4 + L for locking btw. Cheers, Chris Druif I like 2011/2/25 Marcelo Zacarias da Silva > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré wrote: > > The first time that i

[Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Does anyone know how to output sound through HDMI in Lubuntu? I've done it a couple of times with Ubuntu in the past, but couldn't find anything that would allow me to do it in Lubuntu. There is nowhere to adjust sound preferences that I could see. I tried alsamixer, but didn't see anything that

[Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
What should Lubuntu do? I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree 100%. But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older hardware (Lubuntu is too nice not to use it on modern hardware!) My m

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Chris
Hai Tim, Welcome on the mailing-list first of all. You seem to have a pretty clear image in what might be efficient. You might enlighten us with your definition of an efficient OS. Love to hear your thoughts. Cheers, Chris On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 15:10, Tim Bernhard wrote: > What should Lubunt

[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Hey Chris, I'm forwarding this to the list for everyone to see. "But include it for those who want a CPU hogging screen beauty =P" > LOL, that's funny. I guess that's what I was thinking. But maybe most people wouldn't miss it anyway. If it does stay I would say disable it by default for sure.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:12 -0500 Tim Bernhard wrote: > What should Lubuntu do? > > I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree > 100%. But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for > their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older har

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
For me it's really three main areas. First is battery consumption "under normal use". I want my 8 hour battery to last a close to 8 hours, not less than 6 like it did with Ubuntu. Second, I look at the user interface. I hate having two task-bars when everything I need will fit in one. I never

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Chris
Hai Tim, I thought I replied to all, not just you. But it's like I said mainly for CRT screens. Cheers, Chris P.S.: my funny bone was tingling =P Op 25 feb. 2011 16:00 schreef "Tim Bernhard" het volgende: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubun

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Chris wrote: > Hai Tim, > > I thought I replied to all, not just you. But it's like I said mainly for > CRT screens. You know, LCDs still burn in. It's arguably more efficient to just blank them than display a 'saver, although you run the risk of people thinking t

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Yorvyk wrote: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:12 -0500 > Tim Bernhard wrote: > > > So my question is what dose the average user expect their OS to do "out > of > > the box"? Pretend you are putting it on someone's machine. Maybe your > > mother, or the neighbor

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:20 - Chris Druif wrote: > Hai everyone, > > Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try > to give the "full" experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with > a character map installed, I would like to suggest that Lubuntu also > co

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing help/docs

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 12:35 +, Yorvyk a écrit : > Sylpheed - sylpheed-doc not installed. Good catch, should be included (I'll fix it) > Mtpaint - the program is unable to find the documentation so either it > is not installed or in the wrong place. Please report a bug. > Gnumeric - ye

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : > Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with > and without pidgin-libnotify ? > Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without > it and there's no difference seeing it

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Chris
I *thought* it was in lesser degree with LCD's. But turn off is such a turn off for some people (pun intended), but my prefered method (my Ubuntu does it as well). Chris On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 16:46, Liam Proven wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Chris wrote: > > Hai Tim, > > > > I tho

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:05 -0300, Marcelo Zacarias da Silva a écrit : > Agreed. IMHO, running CPU intensive programs when the user is way > makes no sense. An > option to blank and/or lock the screen (automatically or by user > request, like > CTRL-ALT-L in Ubuntu) is useful (again, IMHO

[Lubuntu-desktop] Can anyone remove from lubuntu mail list

2011-02-25 Thread Lee Gold
If anyone - a moderator can remove me from the lubuntu mail list, please do so. I have no luck using the launchpad site and find it quite buggy. Thanks -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com

[Lubuntu-desktop] RES: Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Fabio Silva
[Quote] What should Lubuntu do? I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree 100%. But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older hardware (Lubuntu is too nice not to use it on modern hard

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread PYROcomp
For me the MOST important function would be support for older machines. Regards, REXMO .___. / \ | O _ O | /\_/\ .' / \ `. / _| |_ \ (_/ | | \_) \ / __\_>-<_/__ ~;/ \;~ Don't mess with the pengui

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/2/25 Julien Lavergne > Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a > écrit : > > Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without > > it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager > > It's more about the visual between the 2 notific

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
> > For me the MOST important function would be support for older machines. We have to start from one fact: if Lubuntu can run in an acceptable way in an old machine, it will run incredibly on a newer machine. > Let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI out) For me, i

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/2/25 Yorvyk > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:20 - > Chris Druif wrote: > > > Hai everyone, > > > > Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try > > to give the "full" experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with > > a character map installed, I would like

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread PYROcomp
- You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to use desktop in your own language. Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest kernels..

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Well, at least 10.04 runs well on it... don't know if there's any project to compile kernels for old cpus... 2011/2/25 PYROcomp > - You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will > revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready > to use desktop in your o

[Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on (was: Re: Ask yourself...)

2011-02-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:17 -0600 PYROcomp wrote: > Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? Yes. > As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest kernels... Maybe we need to add this to the Lubuntu FAQ, or something. It is already on the main Lubntu wiki page, but se

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Benny Hult
On 02/25/2011 09:12 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Well, at least 10.04 runs well on it... don't know if there's any project to compile kernels for old cpus... 2011/2/25 PYROcomp mailto:rexmo...@gmail.com>> - You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a m

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on (was: Re: Ask yourself...)

2011-02-25 Thread PYROcomp
> > Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? > > Yes. > > > As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest > kernels... > > Maybe we need to add this to the Lubuntu FAQ, or something. It is already > on the main Lubntu wiki page, but seems to be either not being read, or not

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps

2011-02-25 Thread Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré
I think it's very useful. For example for windows users that are accustomed to Alt + xx (like me), or when you need to write a strange character or when you don't know the unicode code of a character. Something else, when i do a in my Lubuntu 10.10 the output is (sorry, i don't want to translate

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:17 -0600 PYROcomp wrote: > - You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp > a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to use > desktop in your own language. > > > Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? As I underst

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
I've read about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1332261 Hope it works for you. -- <><><>___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks! I'll try that when I get home tonight. I thought I might need to read up on alsamixer. I didn't know about the "m" switch. Hopefully this will work. Does anyone know off the top of their head what package I can add to gain access to the system sound setting via the main menu? I would l

[Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
These are just an annoyances that I can't get used to. Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, then the menu will be very nearly spot on. The menu icon. It's very nice but, there appears to be a lack of contrast or something. It looks like it's been left in

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on

2011-02-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 25 Feb 2011 13:52:19 -0600, PYROcomp wrote: > Perhaps this would be a worthwhile project: compiling support for i586? > Let me know, if there is enough belief in support for i586 I will suggest > it to the sl4mm3r5 group. Wow! Do you have any idea of the time it would take to recompile eve

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:04:09 -0800 Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On 25 Feb 2011 13:52:19 -0600, PYROcomp wrote: > > > Perhaps this would be a worthwhile project: compiling support for i586? > > Let me know, if there is enough belief in support for i586 I will suggest > > it to the sl4mm3r5 group.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
Well, I usually do this with gnome-alsa-mixer (just a front-end). Now even you have a PulseAudio equalizer using a PPA. Try this (single line) in a terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:psyke83/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pulseaudio-equalizer -- <><><>__

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks! I'll play with it this weekend and report back. Tim 2011/2/25 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) > Well, I usually do this with gnome-alsa-mixer (just a front-end). Now even > you have a PulseAudio equalizer using a PPA. Try this (single line) in a > terminal: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:psyke8

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing help/docs

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:11:12 +0100 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 12:35 +, Yorvyk a écrit : > > Sylpheed - sylpheed-doc not installed. > Good catch, should be included (I'll fix it) I've created bugs for these just as a reminder. This bug 725267 > > > Mtpaint - the p

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 20:59 +, Yorvyk a écrit : > Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, > then the menu will be very nearly spot on. You mean the 2 sub-menus itself, of the contents of each menu ? > The menu icon. It's very nice but, there appears

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 15:56 -0500, Tim Bernhard a écrit : > Also, could such a package be included in future Lubuntu distros? Most of people doesn't deal with all the details of the sound. They just want up and down for the level :) Currently, I found 2 GUI for the sound management : - gn

[Lubuntu-desktop] Inclusion of guvciew

2011-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi, With the removal of cheese, we have nothing to test a webcam, especially on the live-cd. Someone proposed to include guvcview. It seems to be a good choice : quite simple and not too much dependencies. Did someone already test it ? I don't have a webcam, I'll be glad if someone have feedbacks

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:25:38 +0100 Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 20:59 +, Yorvyk a écrit : > > Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, > > then the menu will be very nearly spot on. > You mean the 2 sub-menus itself, of the contents

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Phil Lockhart
Got to agree with Yorvyk on the menu icon lacking something. I find it a little difficult to see on my test machine's monitor. On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 20:59 +, Yorvyk wrote: > These are just an annoyances that I can't get used to. > > Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu

2011-02-25 Thread Phil Lockhart
sorry, I mean the Ozone menu icon. I've fallen back to the default as it's easier to see On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 23:25 +0100, Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 20:59 +, Yorvyk a écrit : > > Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, > > then

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can anyone remove from lubuntu mail list

2011-02-25 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas Lee, Sadly I cannot, if you go to https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop when logged on, you can remove yourself. regards, Phill. On 25 February 2011 16:51, Lee Gold wrote: > If anyone - a moderator can remove me from the lubuntu mail list, please > do so. I have no luck using the laun

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on

2011-02-25 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas Jonatahan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System requirements sums up the decision taken. stuff will need 'back-porting' but it is not an insurmountable task. The kernel is also supported as an LTS, so we have pleantly of time :) Dropping this onto such a small team as Lubuntu is was not 'p