Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
Am 15.10.2010 06:20, schrieb Ben Coleman: On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick. Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu. Stick in the USB Live Stick. Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it will then boot from usb key. It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:20:54 -0400 Ben Coleman olo...@benshome.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). It is unfortunate this problem as it mainly effects AMD chips as far as I can gather. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/587186I One solution if you want to run Lubuntu on the 586 machine would be to use the10.04 (Lucid) version, which is what I’ve done on a couple of machines. If you’re having problems with the CD drive it may be worth looking at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ which has a couple of ways of booting flash drives, using either a floppy http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/#more-294 or CD. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:03:59 +0800, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:20:54 -0400 Ben Coleman olo...@benshome.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). It is unfortunate this problem as it mainly effects AMD chips as far as I can gather. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/587186I One solution if you want to run Lubuntu on the 586 machine would be to use the10.04 (Lucid) version, which is what I’ve done on a couple of machines. If you’re having problems with the CD drive it may be worth looking at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ which has a couple of ways of booting flash drives, using either a floppy http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/#more-294 or CD. Or use an existing grub2 menu and manually boot up the usb OS. Of course, you can let the OS with the grub2 generate the usb OS menu with update-grub (with the stick attached). Regards - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:51:42 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 06:20, schrieb Ben Coleman: On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick. Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu. Stick in the USB Live Stick. Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it will then boot from usb key. It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb. Try as I might I cannot get that to work -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
Am 15.10.2010 19:40, schrieb Yorvyk: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:51:42 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 06:20, schrieb Ben Coleman: On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick. Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu. Stick in the USB Live Stick. Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it will then boot from usb key. It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb. Try as I might I cannot get that to work Doesn't it detect the usb stick or does it fail even to go into init ? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:03:44 +0100 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:06:12 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick. Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu. Stick in the USB Live Stick. Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it will then boot from usb key. It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb. Try as I might I cannot get that to work Doesn't it detect the usb stick or does it fail even to go into init ? Doesn’t see detect the USB stick. Hmm... then it shouldn't even detect usb sticks after a complete boot from livecd. Is this correct ? They are detected by the live CD once it boots but it takes quite a while to detect them, USB 1.1. Tried a different machine. It starts to work, the USB stick’s lights flash, but then the screen blanks and nothing else happens. I will have another go another day and make a different stick to see what happens. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On 10/15/2010 01:23 AM, Ben Coleman wrote: I've just found out that with 10.10, standard Ubuntu has dropped support for i586 and lower processors. Does this affect the 10.10 Lubuntu? I've got an AMD K6-2/500(i586-class) desktop I thought would be an ideal candidate for Lubuntu, but now I'm wondering if it will even install. Ben We had today that kind of problem on #lubuntu channel. Here's the problem line: Thu16:05 xx I have an older Compaq 500 Mhz 512MB RAM 80GB HDD. I've installed Xubuntu but it seems to be using up too many resources. Someone suggested I try Lubuntu. When I burned a CD and tried though, it says I lack 'cmov' and to try another kernel. Any suggestions? And we discussed with phillw about this issue and we were sure it was becouse of 10.10 is i686 and his CPU is i585. You can try with USB stick if 10.10 works, but I doubt. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On 10/15/2010 02:12 AM, Ben Coleman wrote: On 10/14/2010 6:48 PM, Benny Hult wrote: Thu16:05 xx I have an older Compaq 500 Mhz 512MB RAM 80GB HDD. I've installed Xubuntu but it seems to be using up too many resources. Someone suggested I try Lubuntu. When I burned a CD and tried though, it says I lack 'cmov' and to try another kernel. Any suggestions? And we discussed with phillw about this issue and we were sure it was becouse of 10.10 is i686 and his CPU is i585. Or his CPU might be i686, but lack cmov. You can try with USB stick if 10.10 works, but I doubt. That's rather disappointing, as these are the kind of machines that Lubuntu would continue to make useful. The alternative would be to have a separate repository for Lubuntu, compiled for i586 (or i486), which would kind of muddy the goal of having Lubuntu be an officially recognized part of Ubuntu. Sigh. Wonder if anyone's doing anything with LXDE on Slackware? Ben Wonder no more, http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download You can try out Salix, it's based on Slackware and kinda a fork from Zenwalk. My wife is running Salix OS and I haven't heard any complaining about it. But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
