Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
Hi, I tried using DeaDBeeF, and I don't seem to find a music library option. Is the library feature really non-existent, or am I missing something? Thank you, Naveen Kumar m On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Dooitze de Jong dooitzedej...@gmail.com wrote: Nice article on omgubuntu.co.uk, On the first sight, it looks great, and it takes little memory. I think you all made the right decision to make DeadBeef (strange name:p) as default. I'm just came to this team so I don't know exactly how things works. The installation of Lubuntu on my PC crash all the time, (See the bug) The LiveCD works on my old PIII, only live. But live is fast too. I overlocked that old pc to 1 GHz with more than 300 MB memory in it. I think that Lubuntu will be on the next release part of the family. Regards, Dooitze 2010/5/16 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At our big application discussion mail we pretty much came to the conclusion that we would not replace the browser, IM client, media player and CD burning app. As there is not much left I came to that conclusion, and I also told OMG! Ubuntu! that a change later on is not impossible so I don´t see your point. And I don´t agree with you on sending false information and making FUD either. But anyways, if you still think I am totally wrong, I am sorry. - -Glenn Also Glenn, could you please stop sending false informations outside the mailing list, especially to news site like OMG ? I don't know where you saw that there will be no others changes in application by default, or no applications added. Please add feedback to blueprints (see the Roadmap) and mailing list instead of making some FUD outside the maling list. Regards, Julien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL8Cs/AAoJEFx07M0xzp8wYiEH/3RNCJeORctkJD30BVIegDr2 hZ1zXoNHqMg20Vk7kzD7oqx5RouiWbiNZKajiaRfAOVwm7roHYvWsHtDAyLukccS B3E4Z9AGz9U2c14U+pe7VM2Vm5lgv2x3kBg/Cb+Udk7QMCueZCfHHvYK6GqEblwL EoA74opAkpq+D/9pCUibaogcBnFJcMnzvQOYy7+6rebocDrxytanwUNkPASLTnQV RPqGDNVylWm1k+RncmV6xqmn51J+k5OdXhJEwea4absDtBw/8lm55Se1ntdjWaP0 frw4gyl+QGEa46sk2zvsh0b6NvS83mq4sWXOVwW51pb4VVfVirB9vEG5XnZz24k= =RTD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
it's a music PLAYER. NOT a BROWSER/ORGANISER with addition of player, like amarok, exaile, songbird, itunes and other such. infact, it's very, VERY similar to foobar on windows - so then it doesn't have any bloating trash-features like some libaries and such IMO worthless unnessesary stuff. And I hope it will be so for ever, now it is IMO nearly perfect (it lacks only support for other playlists formats and MAYBE a scrobbler, which also is unncessesary I guess). 2010/5/17 Naveen Kumar Molleti nerd.nav...@gmail.com: Hi, I tried using DeaDBeeF, and I don't seem to find a music library option. Is the library feature really non-existent, or am I missing something? Thank you, Naveen Kumar m On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Dooitze de Jong dooitzedej...@gmail.com wrote: Nice article on omgubuntu.co.uk, On the first sight, it looks great, and it takes little memory. I think you all made the right decision to make DeadBeef (strange name:p) as default. I'm just came to this team so I don't know exactly how things works. The installation of Lubuntu on my PC crash all the time, (See the bug) The LiveCD works on my old PIII, only live. But live is fast too. I overlocked that old pc to 1 GHz with more than 300 MB memory in it. I think that Lubuntu will be on the next release part of the family. Regards, Dooitze 2010/5/16 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At our big application discussion mail we pretty much came to the conclusion that we would not replace the browser, IM client, media player and CD burning app. As there is not much left I came to that conclusion, and I also told OMG! Ubuntu! that a change later on is not impossible so I don´t see your point. And I don´t agree with you on sending false information and making FUD either. But anyways, if you still think I am totally wrong, I am sorry. - -Glenn Also Glenn, could you please stop sending false informations outside the mailing list, especially to news site like OMG ? I don't know where you saw that there will be no others changes in application by default, or no applications added. Please add feedback to blueprints (see the Roadmap) and mailing list instead of making some FUD outside the maling list. Regards, Julien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL8Cs/AAoJEFx07M0xzp8wYiEH/3RNCJeORctkJD30BVIegDr2 hZ1zXoNHqMg20Vk7kzD7oqx5RouiWbiNZKajiaRfAOVwm7roHYvWsHtDAyLukccS B3E4Z9AGz9U2c14U+pe7VM2Vm5lgv2x3kBg/Cb+Udk7QMCueZCfHHvYK6GqEblwL EoA74opAkpq+D/9pCUibaogcBnFJcMnzvQOYy7+6rebocDrxytanwUNkPASLTnQV RPqGDNVylWm1k+RncmV6xqmn51J+k5OdXhJEwea4absDtBw/8lm55Se1ntdjWaP0 frw4gyl+QGEa46sk2zvsh0b6NvS83mq4sWXOVwW51pb4VVfVirB9vEG5XnZz24k= =RTD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
I have used foobar on Windows. It does have a music library, and so I was just wondering if I missed out on the feature. Just wanted to clarify. Thanks, -- Naveen Kumar Molleti On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: it's a music PLAYER. NOT a BROWSER/ORGANISER with addition of player, like amarok, exaile, songbird, itunes and other such. infact, it's very, VERY similar to foobar on windows - so then it doesn't have any bloating trash-features like some libaries and such IMO worthless unnessesary stuff. And I hope it will be so for ever, now it is IMO nearly perfect (it lacks only support for other playlists formats and MAYBE a scrobbler, which also is unncessesary I guess). 2010/5/17 Naveen Kumar Molleti nerd.nav...@gmail.com: Hi, I tried using DeaDBeeF, and I don't seem to find a music library option. Is the library feature really non-existent, or am I missing something? Thank you, Naveen Kumar m On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Dooitze de Jong dooitzedej...@gmail.com wrote: Nice article on omgubuntu.co.uk, On the first sight, it looks great, and it takes little memory. I think you all made the right decision to make DeadBeef (strange name:p) as default. I'm just came to this team so I don't know exactly how things works. The installation of Lubuntu on my PC crash all the time, (See the bug) The LiveCD works on my old PIII, only live. But live is fast too. I overlocked that old pc to 1 GHz with more than 300 MB memory in it. I think that Lubuntu will be on the next release part of the family. Regards, Dooitze 2010/5/16 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At our big application discussion mail we pretty much came to the conclusion that we would not replace the browser, IM client, media player and CD burning app. As there is not much left I came to that conclusion, and I also told OMG! Ubuntu! that a change later on is not impossible so I don´t see your point. And I don´t agree with you on sending false information and making FUD either. But anyways, if you still think I am totally wrong, I am sorry. - -Glenn Also Glenn, could you please stop sending false informations outside the mailing list, especially to news site like OMG ? I don't know where you saw that there will be no others changes in application by default, or no applications added. Please add feedback to blueprints (see the Roadmap) and mailing list instead of making some FUD outside the maling list. Regards, Julien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL8Cs/AAoJEFx07M0xzp8wYiEH/3RNCJeORctkJD30BVIegDr2 hZ1zXoNHqMg20Vk7kzD7oqx5RouiWbiNZKajiaRfAOVwm7roHYvWsHtDAyLukccS B3E4Z9AGz9U2c14U+pe7VM2Vm5lgv2x3kBg/Cb+Udk7QMCueZCfHHvYK6GqEblwL EoA74opAkpq+D/9pCUibaogcBnFJcMnzvQOYy7+6rebocDrxytanwUNkPASLTnQV RPqGDNVylWm1k+RncmV6xqmn51J+k5OdXhJEwea4absDtBw/8lm55Se1ntdjWaP0 frw4gyl+QGEa46sk2zvsh0b6NvS83mq4sWXOVwW51pb4VVfVirB9vEG5XnZz24k= =RTD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
If yuo want to test deadbeef: *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:alexey-smirnov/deadbeef; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install deadbeef* On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:46 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we can take some time to do this and send the patch to its author. This should not be too hard. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: WOW! I'm impressed. this DeadBeef player looks like it's going to be my fav - it perfectly the thing I was looking for! BUT! there is one problem for me. guess it won't be for any new users, by I have a lot of playlists in .m3u format, as well as a lot of people may have some in .pls and other such popular ones. and this player supports only it's own playlist format... pity. if the palylist importing (converting?) would be added, then it is a perfect player for me! :) 2010/5/15 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com: I encourage every Lubuntu and LXDE users to try DeadBeef, an almost perfect lightweight yet feature-rich music player. The author provided deb packages already. The latest release is quite awesome. http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ The UI is very similar to that of LXMusic, but it's much more functional. Please try it and share your opinions. This is my favorite so far. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: hi in my personal opinion exaile is worthless. I had only problems with it, user-unfriendly interface, trying to be amarok-like libary with addition of player. both aqualung and rythmbox are much better choice. rhythmbox has bizzare interface that you have to learn how to use, but it is possible to do that (unlike with exaile, wich seems very similar to players like amarok so ypu think theres nothing to learn, but then it suprises you with its options and features hidden so much that you can't configure it at all and in the end it unusable and impossible to learn it without help on forums! and we want lubuntu to be easy for everyone, right?), and aqualung is pure spartan simplicity, yet powerfullness, like foobar on windows, with wich you have to really try to mess something up to have it not working. so I'd stick to aqualung. cheers 2010/5/15 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am sending this mail because of the advise Julien Lavergne gave me in our big ¨Lubuntu application discussion for maverick¨ discussion. :P This mail is about discussing Aqualung replacing with Exaile. Exaile is a bit like a lightweight rhythmbox, it loads quickly and supports a lot of music files. Through Synaptic you can even install a plugin for Ipod support, and you can also install a plugin for pidgin so pidgin can display the music song you are listening with Exaile. Exaile uses about 18,8 mb of memory on idle, and Aqualung uses 9.9 mb of memory on idle (LXmusic 2.7 mb :P ) Exaile has many advantages, it is not gray and not odd looking like Aqualung (which looks weird in every Desktop Enviroment) less dependencies, more support because of a bigger project. (e.g Exaile has a good launchpad page with bug reporting and translating all open to everyone, Aqualung hasn´t got a launchpad page.) Is the 9 mb difference in memory consumption acceptable in Lubuntu? Or a slightly different question, is it worth the sacrifice? (Atleast I think it definetly is, but what about you guys?) - -Glenn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL7tvVAAoJEFx07M0xzp8wFp8IAKKepWXHIgZUzbXY5Cb3ayHe Hqgu20v35eLRPBJayHGZGeaIlGuD2zVVmhHG/m/G7OitXuaDs8x+tsH0E3L91Dq1 OV42f+60PqqR6RyvE4g63n75+8j25ML7D9pnbT2Pt/d2E2Cs8q8+XSCWk9wipcRW ZF+EuCFmZJFzra6eqAg//V4XKRXlFaj3KgEhnlj3Eas6D+AoRzlQ+ZG+DztSSTJ0 M0O5jswCQO2P4oszaeIxCbCgaSF1w2OIjDIGEh3MUrr9gxoUMfTwelpKaSFobtze 60jFeSUsP2APayCG9LrUDH2dv8W6r0zcYQb4OFMciAYSJUu9Y2g3Ftu+U7EXwcE= =CHi8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to :
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know where to translate deadbeef? If yuo want to test deadbeef: *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:alexey-smirnov/deadbeef; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install deadbeef* On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:46 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we can take some time to do this and send the patch to its author. This should not be too hard. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: WOW! I'm impressed. this DeadBeef player looks like it's going to be my fav - it perfectly the thing I was looking for! BUT! there is one problem for me. guess it won't be for any new users, by I have a lot of playlists in .m3u format, as well as a lot of people may have some in .pls and other such popular ones. and this player supports only it's own playlist format... pity. if the palylist importing (converting?) would be added, then it is a perfect player for me! :) 2010/5/15 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com: I encourage every Lubuntu and LXDE users to try DeadBeef, an almost perfect lightweight yet feature-rich music player. The author provided deb packages already. The latest release is quite awesome. http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ The UI is very similar to that of LXMusic, but it's much more functional. Please try it and share your opinions. This is my favorite so far. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: hi in my personal opinion exaile is worthless. I had only problems with it, user-unfriendly interface, trying to be amarok-like libary with addition of player. both aqualung and rythmbox are much better choice. rhythmbox has bizzare interface that you have to learn how to use, but it is possible to do that (unlike with exaile, wich seems very similar to players like amarok so ypu think theres nothing to learn, but then it suprises you with its options and features hidden so much that you can't configure it at all and in the end it unusable and impossible to learn it without help on forums! and we want lubuntu to be easy for everyone, right?), and aqualung is pure spartan simplicity, yet powerfullness, like foobar on windows, with wich you have to really try to mess something up to have it not working. so I'd stick to aqualung. cheers 2010/5/15 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com: Hello, I am sending this mail because of the advise Julien Lavergne gave me in our big ¨Lubuntu application discussion for maverick¨ discussion. :P This mail is about discussing Aqualung replacing with Exaile. Exaile is a bit like a lightweight rhythmbox, it loads quickly and supports a lot of music files. Through Synaptic you can even install a plugin for Ipod support, and you can also install a plugin for pidgin so pidgin can display the music song you are listening with Exaile. Exaile uses about 18,8 mb of memory on idle, and Aqualung uses 9.9 mb of memory on idle (LXmusic 2.7 mb :P ) Exaile has many advantages, it is not gray and not odd looking like Aqualung (which looks weird in every Desktop Enviroment) less dependencies, more support because of a bigger project. (e.g Exaile has a good launchpad page with bug reporting and translating all open to everyone, Aqualung hasn´t got a launchpad page.) Is the 9 mb difference in memory consumption acceptable in Lubuntu? Or a slightly different question, is it worth the sacrifice? (Atleast I think it definetly is, but what about you guys?) -Glenn ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL76oAAAoJEFx07M0xzp8wmmwH/RgfAfqHujKzZV9Xz+4KNSHh Svgy5Mq+TYDvY9U5jV8FtQW8GcdRP9GBPpHIjBb105VqEuTTxWrcvxgou7VeQusQ WSiPfknGKkqO2sR8zqwj8KOsKWY8b/WoBc+36UrFlUzd2tN/WwiCfcEg+UBTsmkS UJfmGG7cmvsYM5h1gTexrppbEwQlfgk/eVruaJG+h1jYhjtzo7Nm7tEUaTT+blT6 zevdVN0QPKiNJahSjr3N3M8+yxyHLey5jA+MBUMfUr5OXfacyjNxlbpMdrKllCx/
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
Hi, Downloaded and playing. VERY impressed :-) It has the logical Open File / Folder / Place / CD that is 'hidden' in Aqualung and also quite visible playlist saving. It's a +1 from me !! Regards, Phill. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know where to translate deadbeef? If yuo want to test deadbeef: *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:alexey-smirnov/deadbeef; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install deadbeef* On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:46 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we can take some time to do this and send the patch to its author. This should not be too hard. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: WOW! I'm impressed. this DeadBeef player looks like it's going to be my fav - it perfectly the thing I was looking for! BUT! there is one problem for me. guess it won't be for any new users, by I have a lot of playlists in .m3u format, as well as a lot of people may have some in .pls and other such popular ones. and this player supports only it's own playlist format... pity. if the palylist importing (converting?) would be added, then it is a perfect player for me! :) 2010/5/15 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com: I encourage every Lubuntu and LXDE users to try DeadBeef, an almost perfect lightweight yet feature-rich music player. The author provided deb packages already. The latest release is quite awesome. http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ The UI is very similar to that of LXMusic, but it's much more functional. Please try it and share your opinions. This is my favorite so far. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: hi in my personal opinion exaile is worthless. I had only problems with it, user-unfriendly interface, trying to be amarok-like libary with addition of player. both aqualung and rythmbox are much better choice. rhythmbox has bizzare interface that you have to learn how to use, but it is possible to do that (unlike with exaile, wich seems very similar to players like amarok so ypu think theres nothing to learn, but then it suprises you with its options and features hidden so much that you can't configure it at all and in the end it unusable and impossible to learn it without help on forums! and we want lubuntu to be easy for everyone, right?), and aqualung is pure spartan simplicity, yet powerfullness, like foobar on windows, with wich you have to really try to mess something up to have it not working. so I'd stick to aqualung. cheers 2010/5/15 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com: Hello, I am sending this mail because of the advise Julien Lavergne gave me in our big ¨Lubuntu application discussion for maverick¨ discussion. :P This mail is about discussing Aqualung replacing with Exaile. Exaile is a bit like a lightweight rhythmbox, it loads quickly and supports a lot of music files. Through Synaptic you can even install a plugin for Ipod support, and you can also install a plugin for pidgin so pidgin can display the music song you are listening with Exaile. Exaile uses about 18,8 mb of memory on idle, and Aqualung uses 9.9 mb of memory on idle (LXmusic 2.7 mb :P ) Exaile has many advantages, it is not gray and not odd looking like Aqualung (which looks weird in every Desktop Enviroment) less dependencies, more support because of a bigger project. (e.g Exaile has a good launchpad page with bug reporting and translating all open to everyone, Aqualung hasn´t got a launchpad page.) Is the 9 mb difference in memory consumption acceptable in Lubuntu? Or a slightly different question, is it worth the sacrifice? (Atleast I think it definetly is, but what about you guys?) -Glenn ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
I need to test it before add my opinion to this. I just would like to add some notices : - we can't use a ppa for the lubuntu release, we need a real release from upstream - if it's not in the repository, we can add it, it's not a real problem, but we need some time to do it properly. Also, until I can study this choose, just consider that we still use aqualung. If it needs too much maintainance, we will keep aqualung. Regards, Julien (still in vacation for some days) 2010/5/16 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/lubuntu-chooses-new-music-player-for.html Cheers :D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL8A/vAAoJEFx07M0xzp8wZyUIAJc/af9yT2ocLBesjbcm2ZjH jPjgE8wyMBgK8UajX6Jma+dei2ixiOxNLpaxWd5+rbFOYhUuxBKQZFzAoxkjXUbz tKz1nk55iiI6NtTtXiZtw/Tfys/KBE/nW4HPbbDmlJEv6ibacDLgBPhkIVE3RgzA IJK/dBpgTZfDDF2YoH+R/8hp34bJCyALkjcbrleP7iP5R69RHKq9egl43kDi6m9q 4T/WboHTEJTvKHR00TXRNylIuwTOv0cB0fBbAhVunZYQDAIMZ2GLe4317uITMeyQ E9/9gId6zxZhHIab3U4AMw9M6QbPdIV+uoHoG1wdT6j25Kd0MhX2dBQ2L8d33WM= =dEZe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
Also Glenn, could you please stop sending false informations outside the mailing list, especially to news site like OMG ? I don't know where you saw that there will be no others changes in application by default, or no applications added. Please add feedback to blueprints (see the Roadmap) and mailing list instead of making some FUD outside the maling list. Regards, Julien 2010/5/16 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/lubuntu-chooses-new-music-player-for.html Cheers :D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL8A/vAAoJEFx07M0xzp8wZyUIAJc/af9yT2ocLBesjbcm2ZjH jPjgE8wyMBgK8UajX6Jma+dei2ixiOxNLpaxWd5+rbFOYhUuxBKQZFzAoxkjXUbz tKz1nk55iiI6NtTtXiZtw/Tfys/KBE/nW4HPbbDmlJEv6ibacDLgBPhkIVE3RgzA IJK/dBpgTZfDDF2YoH+R/8hp34bJCyALkjcbrleP7iP5R69RHKq9egl43kDi6m9q 4T/WboHTEJTvKHR00TXRNylIuwTOv0cB0fBbAhVunZYQDAIMZ2GLe4317uITMeyQ E9/9gId6zxZhHIab3U4AMw9M6QbPdIV+uoHoG1wdT6j25Kd0MhX2dBQ2L8d33WM= =dEZe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
Glenn, The mere existence of Lubuntu loses it's purpose if you start bloating it. Why bother, going through all the trouble of making an environment like LXDE work with Ubuntu wich it doesn't work as well with as Gnome, if in the end, there isn't anything to distinguish it but the labeling? I am sure your comments about quantity of dependencies transcends across the OS, and is not limited to just the music player. We are probably all hoping for a better knoppix, with Lubuntu: auto-detection, codecs, speed, light weight, to name a few. You start making these kind of decisions here, there, everywhere, and before you know it, your distro is double the bloat and half the speed. Some of these recommendations may better serve the main edition of Ubuntu and Mint. But when you are looking at making small and fast, you may have to make some trade-offs. Proposed Solution: one thing you may want to do, is build it with the faster, more efficient tools. Users can always use Synaptic to install whatever they prefer - those will be the users with the 160GB+ hard drives and who really don't care about disk space. And the ones with more compact resources, like a Netbook with a solid state hard drive, those with older laptops, will all be grateful that the bloat is out and Lubuntu is as fast small and efficient as it can possibly be. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 13:37, Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am sending this mail because of the advise Julien Lavergne gave me in our big ¨Lubuntu application discussion for maverick¨ discussion. :P This mail is about discussing Aqualung replacing with Exaile. Exaile is a bit like a lightweight rhythmbox, it loads quickly and supports a lot of music files. Through Synaptic you can even install a plugin for Ipod support, and you can also install a plugin for pidgin so pidgin can display the music song you are listening with Exaile. Exaile uses about 18,8 mb of memory on idle, and Aqualung uses 9.9 mb of memory on idle (LXmusic 2.7 mb :P ) Exaile has many advantages, it is not gray and not odd looking like Aqualung (which looks weird in every Desktop Enviroment) less dependencies, more support because of a bigger project. (e.g Exaile has a good launchpad page with bug reporting and translating all open to everyone, Aqualung hasn´t got a launchpad page.) Is the 9 mb difference in memory consumption acceptable in Lubuntu? Or a slightly different question, is it worth the sacrifice? (Atleast I think it definetly is, but what about you guys?) - -Glenn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL7tvVAAoJEFx07M0xzp8wFp8IAKKepWXHIgZUzbXY5Cb3ayHe Hqgu20v35eLRPBJayHGZGeaIlGuD2zVVmhHG/m/G7OitXuaDs8x+tsH0E3L91Dq1 OV42f+60PqqR6RyvE4g63n75+8j25ML7D9pnbT2Pt/d2E2Cs8q8+XSCWk9wipcRW ZF+EuCFmZJFzra6eqAg//V4XKRXlFaj3KgEhnlj3Eas6D+AoRzlQ+ZG+DztSSTJ0 M0O5jswCQO2P4oszaeIxCbCgaSF1w2OIjDIGEh3MUrr9gxoUMfTwelpKaSFobtze 60jFeSUsP2APayCG9LrUDH2dv8W6r0zcYQb4OFMciAYSJUu9Y2g3Ftu+U7EXwcE= =CHi8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At our big application discussion mail we pretty much came to the conclusion that we would not replace the browser, IM client, media player and CD burning app. As there is not much left I came to that conclusion, and I also told OMG! Ubuntu! that a change later on is not impossible so I don´t see your point. And I don´t agree with you on sending false information and making FUD either. But anyways, if you still think I am totally wrong, I am sorry. - -Glenn Also Glenn, could you please stop sending false informations outside the mailing list, especially to news site like OMG ? I don't know where you saw that there will be no others changes in application by default, or no applications added. Please add feedback to blueprints (see the Roadmap) and mailing list instead of making some FUD outside the maling list. Regards, Julien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL8Cs/AAoJEFx07M0xzp8wYiEH/3RNCJeORctkJD30BVIegDr2 hZ1zXoNHqMg20Vk7kzD7oqx5RouiWbiNZKajiaRfAOVwm7roHYvWsHtDAyLukccS B3E4Z9AGz9U2c14U+pe7VM2Vm5lgv2x3kBg/Cb+Udk7QMCueZCfHHvYK6GqEblwL EoA74opAkpq+D/9pCUibaogcBnFJcMnzvQOYy7+6rebocDrxytanwUNkPASLTnQV RPqGDNVylWm1k+RncmV6xqmn51J+k5OdXhJEwea4absDtBw/8lm55Se1ntdjWaP0 frw4gyl+QGEa46sk2zvsh0b6NvS83mq4sWXOVwW51pb4VVfVirB9vEG5XnZz24k= =RTD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
Nice article on omgubuntu.co.ukhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/lubuntu-chooses-new-music-player-for.html , On the first sight, it looks great, and it takes little memory. I think you all made the right decision to make DeadBeef (strange name:p) as default. I'm just came to this team so I don't know exactly how things works. The installation of Lubuntu on my PC crash all the time, (See the bughttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/522031) The LiveCD works on my old PIII, only live. But live is fast too. I overlocked that old pc to 1 GHz with more than 300 MB memory in it. I think that Lubuntu will be on the next release part of the family. Regards, Dooitze 2010/5/16 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At our big application discussion mail we pretty much came to the conclusion that we would not replace the browser, IM client, media player and CD burning app. As there is not much left I came to that conclusion, and I also told OMG! Ubuntu! that a change later on is not impossible so I don´t see your point. And I don´t agree with you on sending false information and making FUD either. But anyways, if you still think I am totally wrong, I am sorry. - -Glenn Also Glenn, could you please stop sending false informations outside the mailing list, especially to news site like OMG ? I don't know where you saw that there will be no others changes in application by default, or no applications added. Please add feedback to blueprints (see the Roadmap) and mailing list instead of making some FUD outside the maling list. Regards, Julien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL8Cs/AAoJEFx07M0xzp8wYiEH/3RNCJeORctkJD30BVIegDr2 hZ1zXoNHqMg20Vk7kzD7oqx5RouiWbiNZKajiaRfAOVwm7roHYvWsHtDAyLukccS B3E4Z9AGz9U2c14U+pe7VM2Vm5lgv2x3kBg/Cb+Udk7QMCueZCfHHvYK6GqEblwL EoA74opAkpq+D/9pCUibaogcBnFJcMnzvQOYy7+6rebocDrxytanwUNkPASLTnQV RPqGDNVylWm1k+RncmV6xqmn51J+k5OdXhJEwea4absDtBw/8lm55Se1ntdjWaP0 frw4gyl+QGEa46sk2zvsh0b6NvS83mq4sWXOVwW51pb4VVfVirB9vEG5XnZz24k= =RTD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
2010/5/15 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com I encourage every Lubuntu and LXDE users to try DeadBeef, an almost perfect lightweight yet feature-rich music player. The author provided deb packages already. The latest release is quite awesome. http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ The UI is very similar to that of LXMusic, but it's much more functional. Please try it and share your opinions. This is my favorite so far. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: hi in my personal opinion exaile is worthless. I had only problems with it, user-unfriendly interface, trying to be amarok-like libary with addition of player. both aqualung and rythmbox are much better choice. rhythmbox has bizzare interface that you have to learn how to use, but it is possible to do that (unlike with exaile, wich seems very similar to players like amarok so ypu think theres nothing to learn, but then it suprises you with its options and features hidden so much that you can't configure it at all and in the end it unusable and impossible to learn it without help on forums! and we want lubuntu to be easy for everyone, right?), and aqualung is pure spartan simplicity, yet powerfullness, like foobar on windows, with wich you have to really try to mess something up to have it not working. so I'd stick to aqualung. cheers 2010/5/15 Glenn glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am sending this mail because of the advise Julien Lavergne gave me in our big ¨Lubuntu application discussion for maverick¨ discussion. :P This mail is about discussing Aqualung replacing with Exaile. Exaile is a bit like a lightweight rhythmbox, it loads quickly and supports a lot of music files. Through Synaptic you can even install a plugin for Ipod support, and you can also install a plugin for pidgin so pidgin can display the music song you are listening with Exaile. Exaile uses about 18,8 mb of memory on idle, and Aqualung uses 9.9 mb of memory on idle (LXmusic 2.7 mb :P ) Exaile has many advantages, it is not gray and not odd looking like Aqualung (which looks weird in every Desktop Enviroment) less dependencies, more support because of a bigger project. (e.g Exaile has a good launchpad page with bug reporting and translating all open to everyone, Aqualung hasn´t got a launchpad page.) Is the 9 mb difference in memory consumption acceptable in Lubuntu? Or a slightly different question, is it worth the sacrifice? (Atleast I think it definetly is, but what about you guys?) - -Glenn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL7tvVAAoJEFx07M0xzp8wFp8IAKKepWXHIgZUzbXY5Cb3ayHe Hqgu20v35eLRPBJayHGZGeaIlGuD2zVVmhHG/m/G7OitXuaDs8x+tsH0E3L91Dq1 OV42f+60PqqR6RyvE4g63n75+8j25ML7D9pnbT2Pt/d2E2Cs8q8+XSCWk9wipcRW ZF+EuCFmZJFzra6eqAg//V4XKRXlFaj3KgEhnlj3Eas6D+AoRzlQ+ZG+DztSSTJ0 M0O5jswCQO2P4oszaeIxCbCgaSF1w2OIjDIGEh3MUrr9gxoUMfTwelpKaSFobtze 60jFeSUsP2APayCG9LrUDH2dv8W6r0zcYQb4OFMciAYSJUu9Y2g3Ftu+U7EXwcE= =CHi8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Thank you, PCMan. I have tried it - it has very simple user-frinedly interface, uses about 9 mb of memory. So, it is my choice for audio player now. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Replacing Aqualung with Exaile [DISCUSSION]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Deadbeef is very nice, the interface is very sexy, love it. :) Although I still think Exaile would be a great default music player, Deadbeef gets a vote from me because it is simple, lightweight and good. One prob i guess: Deadbeef is not yet in the Ubuntu repositories. - -Glenn I encourage every Lubuntu and LXDE users to try DeadBeef, an almost perfect lightweight yet feature-rich music player. The author provided deb packages already. The latest release is quite awesome. http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ The UI is very similar to that of LXMusic, but it's much more functional. Please try it and share your opinions. This is my favorite so far. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL74J2AAoJEFx07M0xzp8wHLcH/iUoUMZxJOvcL6lTrGW6i+V7 qmTjaNyeGyIQM4BPtjvH5QWcD4ego2kur5mIyDleg5tmYatp4MAYdoBCuU1Ast0W /rbyqt8zkPPZv6fRqAQusvbulIil3K3PEzyP1PKh37xMFtWIpQTUKKWEm5dMDgOx BeI4FB9brSs8B4H0EDUNjJe+sbB/RfHFw3ftSrSpzAN084IJ+VvGEJqMNNzYqYof v0ghAeQzqU2PrzEmiDstG4k3zIQ3j8KPow1WveeniMzaRkyFRM1cY20MSJu5T2UG rAoGG5Qcxies8gtwDmJYWZ1c6OZsUFN+X6NNICKbXRBU16kOaAbr23aXNIyP9ek= =WtLx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp