Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Le Sunday 05 June 2011 à 13:14 -0700, Lance a écrit : Regarding the lacking restart or shutdown buttons I posted a screenshot here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 I think it's because you use startx. LXDM do some black magic to enable features that startx probably doesn't (consolkit here). I suspect it's because you don't have some commands. Thats right without a login manager running shutdown won't work the usual way. I think the bug report should concentrate why it did boot only in a tty and not to the graphical environment. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Hi, Thanks for your help. However, as I said in Alpha 1 announcement, bugs on the ISO will probably be invalid when we will switch to the official ISO building infrastructure. Le Friday 03 June 2011 à 10:47 -0700, Lance a écrit : 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type startx to get the DE. I saw it sometimes, restarting lxdm or just waiting fix the problem. 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons. Screenshot needed :) 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart. Never see it, but pressing reboot button should not hurt too much :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
I have just installed alpha 1 in a virtual box environment tonight. I will add my comments in case this helps. If anyone needs anything specific tested in the alpha 1 to confirm something let me know. On 5 June 2011 22:48, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for your help. However, as I said in Alpha 1 announcement, bugs on the ISO will probably be invalid when we will switch to the official ISO building infrastructure. Le Friday 03 June 2011 à 10:47 -0700, Lance a écrit : 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type startx to get the DE. I saw it sometimes, restarting lxdm or just waiting fix the problem. I can't reproduce this issue 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons. Screenshot needed :) I have them, they are located in the lower right hand corner in the bar. It's a little circle power icon. 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart. Never see it, but pressing reboot button should not hurt too much :) Again, I didn't see this behaviour, it asked me to remove the media and press enter. As it was a virtual box I just hit enter and it reset correctly. None of this is to disprove your bugs but just to say I couldn't reproduce them in a virtual environment so it could perhaps be something to do with hardware? I'm not a guru with these things so just trying to add to the information pool Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Thanks for responding Julien. I hadn't seen the release announcement (didn't know there was one) because I subscribed to the mailing list after that. I have now however found it in the archives, and I posted the text at the forums to hopefully prevent a flood of questions or bug reports. Regarding the lacking restart or shutdown buttons I posted a screenshot here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 Note that I could only start the DE by typing startx. I'm not sure I know how to restart lxdm. I tried sudo service lxdm start and that failed, but I'm used to Gnome so I will have a learning curve to tackle with Lubuntu ;^) Regardless don't worry much about these particular bugs. I was just trying to prepare for changing the lion's share of my iso-testing to Lubuntu once it's added to the list. I should be able to repeat tests to see if bugs exist in both Ubuntu and Lubuntu. Regarding my original point, when I look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs I still wonder if the package 'lubuntu-desktop' shouldn't be included as an option so people can file a bug against Lubuntu when they're otherwise unsure what specific package is involved? I'll do everything in my power to help the project. IMHO Lubuntu is just great, besides being lightweight it could be a great bridge for those who don't quite love Unity and/or gnome3. I find the DE very easy to adapt to having used gnome2 since Gutsy. --- On Sun, 6/5/11, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: From: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing To: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 7:48 AM Hi, Thanks for your help. However, as I said in Alpha 1 announcement, bugs on the ISO will probably be invalid when we will switch to the official ISO building infrastructure. Le Friday 03 June 2011 à 10:47 -0700, Lance a écrit : 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type startx to get the DE. I saw it sometimes, restarting lxdm or just waiting fix the problem. 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons. Screenshot needed :) 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart. Never see it, but pressing reboot button should not hurt too much :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: IMHO Lubuntu is just great, besides being lightweight it could be a great bridge for those who don't quite love Unity and/or gnome3. I find the DE very easy to adapt to having used gnome2 since Gutsy. + 1 on that statement. Lubuntu should not be regarded as *just *a great lightweight OS for low spec hardware, but as a great OS for anyone. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Le Sunday 05 June 2011 à 13:14 -0700, Lance a écrit : Regarding the lacking restart or shutdown buttons I posted a screenshot here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 I think it's because you use startx. LXDM do some black magic to enable features that startx probably doesn't (consolkit here). I suspect it's because you don't have some commands. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Indeed, you're right. Using sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm restart does complete the live CD boot process and lands me in a true Lubuntu DE instead of that LXDE. And the buttons are there in the Lubuntu DE so it's all somehow related to the Live CD not completing the boot process on it's own. No worries. Since you have a whole new build process in the works I look forward to helping you test. Sorry to be a nuisance. --- On Sun, 6/5/11, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: From: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing To: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 3:48 PM Le Sunday 05 June 2011 à 13:14 -0700, Lance a écrit : Regarding the lacking restart or shutdown buttons I posted a screenshot here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 I think it's because you use startx. LXDM do some black magic to enable features that startx probably doesn't (consolkit here). I suspect it's because you don't have some commands. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
I may have done a bit of a bad job explaining myself. I'm not too concerned ATM about the bugs I encountered, I'm just testing the waters in order to be as useful to the Lubuntu project as possible. Since time is limited please look at my test bug report and also this forum thread (no need to comment at the forums): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10901610postcount=10 I did have one other thought however. Do you suppose the Ubuntu Forum mods might grant us permission to start a sub-forum here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46 All thoughts are welcome. My ideas may stink and I don't mind being told so. --- On Fri, 6/3/11, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing To: Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com Cc: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com, lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 8:38 PM Hello Lance, I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the installer (bug 3)? Welcome to the crew by the way. With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: hiyas kansasnoob, firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2. The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions. Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again. For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great :P My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers, Phill. P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct me. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob at Ubuntu forums. I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing. Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The specific bugs are: 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type startx to get the DE. 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons. 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Per the post on the foums that i just read is all this questioning the need of a official forum for lubuntu? On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: I may have done a bit of a bad job explaining myself. I'm not too concerned ATM about the bugs I encountered, I'm just testing the waters in order to be as useful to the Lubuntu project as possible. Since time is limited please look at my test bug report and also this forum thread (no need to comment at the forums): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10901610postcount=10 I did have one other thought however. Do you suppose the Ubuntu Forum mods might grant us permission to start a sub-forum here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46 All thoughts are welcome. My ideas may stink and I don't mind being told so. --- On *Fri, 6/3/11, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing To: Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com Cc: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com, lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 8:38 PM Hello Lance, I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the installer (bug 3)? Welcome to the crew by the way. With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.comhttp://mc/compose?to=phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: hiyas kansasnoob, firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2. The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions. Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again. For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great :P My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers, Phill. P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct me. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob at Ubuntu forums. I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing. Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The specific bugs are: 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx*to get the DE. 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
The forum thing was actually an afterthought, and perhaps a poor one. My original intention was to explore the proper manner of filing bugs against Lubuntu when it's known that the same bugs don't exist in Ubuntu or another variant. In this case the actual apps effected were probably casper and ubiquity, but I knew the same issues weren't present in Ubuntu. I know sometimes, if in doubt, filing against a meta-package will draw the needed attention and get a bug properly reassigned. --- On Sat, 6/4/11, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote: From: matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing To: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Cc: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com, lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 3:15 PM Per the post on the foums that i just read is all this questioning the need of a official forum for lubuntu? On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: I may have done a bit of a bad job explaining myself. I'm not too concerned ATM about the bugs I encountered, I'm just testing the waters in order to be as useful to the Lubuntu project as possible. Since time is limited please look at my test bug report and also this forum thread (no need to comment at the forums): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10901610postcount=10 I did have one other thought however. Do you suppose the Ubuntu Forum mods might grant us permission to start a sub-forum here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46 All thoughts are welcome. My ideas may stink and I don't mind being told so. --- On Fri, 6/3/11, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing To: Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com Cc: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com, lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 8:38 PM Hello Lance, I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the installer (bug 3)? Welcome to the crew by the way. With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: hiyas kansasnoob, firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2. The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions. Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again. For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great :P My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers, Phill. P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct me. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
hiyas Lance, I'm sure both Julien (gilir) and Jonathan (JMarsden) will quickly bring you up to speed. They are the ones responsible for spinning the iso's. AFAIK, Julien is now a little freer to go bug hunting and JM is taking some of the strain on iso generation, but with the new 'official' iso building coming in they will both be kept busy. As an experienced iso tester your input will be a massive help to lubuntu. On an area I can assist in, back in the 'old' days when they removed the forum for Wubi there was a lot of complaining (I know, I was amongst those going WTF!) We'd spend ages trying to sort out a problem, and then they'd tell you oh, by the way I'm using WuBi! So, the chances of a lubuntu area are slightly less than a snowflake lasting 2 release cycles in hell. It was me who asked a kindly forum moderator about the chances of us getting a 'lubuntu' tag for questions, just as xubuntu and kubuntu etc. have, even though we were not 'officially' a part of the family. I was told it would take a little while for a 'meeting'... It must have been a real short meeting. We got the flag VERY quickly. And yes, Mr Ubutnu Forum Moderator, if you are on our mailing list - you know who you are - and Thanks! Do drop by #lubuntu-offtopic on freenode for a chat, it's much easier and faster than forums and emails. What we lack in quantity, we more than make for in quality. Regards, Phill. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: I may have done a bit of a bad job explaining myself. I'm not too concerned ATM about the bugs I encountered, I'm just testing the waters in order to be as useful to the Lubuntu project as possible. Since time is limited please look at my test bug report and also this forum thread (no need to comment at the forums): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10901610postcount=10 I did have one other thought however. Do you suppose the Ubuntu Forum mods might grant us permission to start a sub-forum here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46 All thoughts are welcome. My ideas may stink and I don't mind being told so. --- On *Fri, 6/3/11, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing To: Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com Cc: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com, lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 8:38 PM Hello Lance, I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the installer (bug 3)? Welcome to the crew by the way. With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.comhttp://mc/compose?to=phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: hiyas kansasnoob, firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2. The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions. Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again. For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
hiyas kansasnoob, firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2. The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions. Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again. For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great :P My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers, Phill. P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct me. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob at Ubuntu forums. I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing. Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The specific bugs are: 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx*to get the DE. 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons. 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart. Of course none of these are serious or unexpected this early in a dev cycle, but I wanted to get my feet wet checking out bug filing against Lubuntu anyway, and I'm a bit puzzled. I'm used to iso-testing pure Ubuntu so all of the above bugs would be filed against 'casper' but I know these bugs were not present when I tested Ubuntu so I thought I should possibly file them against the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' but that's a no-go. I'm just wondering if the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' should be added to launchpad as a bug filing option? I'm very impressed with the Lubuntu project and I hope my iso-testing skills may be helpful at some point, but I have no development skills. I'm just a tester. Apologies in advance if I was wrong posting in this manner. Sincerely, Lance ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
Hello Lance, I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the installer (bug 3)? Welcome to the crew by the way. With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: hiyas kansasnoob, firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik, just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break. Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building system. This should be done for a2. The general page for 11.10 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers Progress on the apport hooks can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to get the lubuntu discussions. Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes. Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you great people again. For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ). Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great :P My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers, Phill. P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct me. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob at Ubuntu forums. I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing. Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The specific bugs are: 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx * to get the DE. 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown buttons. 3) Upon completing the installation I was asked whether to restart or keep using the Live DE as usual. I chose to restart and the CD ejected as expected but the screen was just blank. So I removed the CD, closed the tray and hit enter, but nothing happened. I tried some common key combos but finally had to use the reset button on my box to complete the restart. Of course none of these are serious or unexpected this early in a dev cycle, but I wanted to get my feet wet checking out bug filing against Lubuntu anyway, and I'm a bit puzzled. I'm used to iso-testing pure Ubuntu so all of the above bugs would be filed against 'casper' but I know these bugs were not present when I tested Ubuntu so I thought I should possibly file them against the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' but that's a no-go. I'm just wondering if the meta-package 'lubuntu-desktop' should be added to launchpad as a bug filing option? I'm very impressed with the Lubuntu project and I hope my iso-testing skills may be helpful at some point, but I have no development skills. I'm just a tester. Apologies in advance if I was wrong posting in this manner. Sincerely, Lance ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to :
