Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-03 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 03.10.2010 01:08, schrieb Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset: First: Isn't there a way to get a text based splashcreen without plymouth?? You need something similiar as plymouth. And as I sad plymouth already has a text plugin which is doing exact the same which you want to have. it would result a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-03 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le dimanche 03 octobre 2010 à 10:58 +0200, Leszek Lesner a écrit : Just remove plymouth and rebuild initrd would work. But I think you mean in the building process of the ISO. (btw. is it anywhere documented ?) My main concerns are the hard depend on plymouth for minimal ubuntu seeds, and maybe

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 02.10.2010 03:33, schrieb Bob Trevithick: I really hope that it can be removed from the system, or it can be turned off in a sane way. BTW, in the past usplash always work on my box, but plymouth is really problematic. I'm over my head here, but I've heard others say that this

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Bob Trevithick
Well, I had my little rant about this and I've gotten it out of my system. :-) I had heard lots of people on the forums saying it was difficult to remove, and that the best thing was to just turn off splash. Looking at what would be removed along with removal of Plymouth tended to support the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Since Lubuntu is intended for low specs machines, 'splashscreen' could be just a text saying 'Lubuntu' and in the line under that one, 5 'o' appearing in a set of time, so it makes consistence with the idea of the distro (and trully think that this would me a lot easier to do and time saving to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Yorvyk
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 22:30:09 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: For some reason more than 256MiB of RAM is needed for Lubuntu to install with Intel on board video. Perhaps the on board intel card uses the system ram as share It does share the RAM but only takes 16MiB,

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Julien Lavergne
And to be back to the initial problem (plymouth) : sadly, there was no work on plymouth integration for Ubuntu for this cycle, which not help for its stability. If removing it from the system seems possible, removing it from the Lubuntu ISO seems less easier. Anyway, it's something we could

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
First: Isn't there a way to get a text based splashcreen without plymouth?? it would result a faster boot! (and less complicated?) Second: a text based installer seems to me an excellent idea to make the installation fast, since many of us and the rest of the possible users of lubuntu would

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-01 Thread Rafael Laguna
El dv 01 de 10 de 2010 a les 22:54 +0100, en/na Yorvyk va escriure: On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:34:46 +0200 Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed the same problem on Ubuntu and others (Xubuntu and Studio tested). The only way to solve this and activate X during startup is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-01 Thread Rafael Laguna
The ideal is a MacOSX-like, that includes machine, disk loader, operating system and desktop, everything with a smooth transition, but it's impossible right now with Linux. I'm fully agree with you, after repairing this annoying thing, I can only see the logo for about 1 second. So, why don't we

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-01 Thread PCMan
I'm also one of the people who want to remove Plymouth. It creates random crashes everytime I boot my system. Sometimes it works well and gives me nice boot screen with the nice artwork. Sometimes it just hangs forever and show random pixels on my screen. Then my laptop became unresponsive so I

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-01 Thread Bob Trevithick
I really hope that it can be removed from the system, or it can be turned off in a sane way. BTW, in the past usplash always work on my box, but plymouth is really problematic. I'm over my head here, but I've heard others say that this thing is like a cancer that has metathesized throughout

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth

2010-10-01 Thread Goh Lip
Bob Trevithick wrote: Amen!! Let's dump this Plymouth crap. I'm over my head here, but I've heard others say that this thing is like a cancer that has metathesized throughout the entire system. That the dependencies make it almost impossible to remove. I sincerely hope this isn't true. I