n Thu, 02 May 2019 13:04:08 -0700, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>On 2019-05-02 20:01, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> I've got deep respect regarding your effort, especially since it
>> seems to be a trivial issue. IMO it isn't that trivial.
>
>In the end, all bugs are relevant. Of course, some are
On 2019-05-02 20:01, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I've got deep respect regarding your effort, especially since it seems
> to be a trivial issue. IMO it isn't that trivial.
In the end, all bugs are relevant. Of course, some are higher priority
than others. This one's probably not the biggest one we have
On Thu, 02 May 2019 12:19:17 -0700, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>On 2019-04-26 16:01, Mark F wrote:
>> I know the installer and Xubuntu aren't your (Walter's) department.
>> I'm just wondering if that would be another way to look at it?
>> Lubuntu uses 4.5gb. But, required 8gb to pass the
On 2019-04-26 16:01, Mark F wrote:
> I know the installer and Xubuntu aren't your (Walter's) department.
> I'm just wondering if that would be another way to look at it? Lubuntu
> uses 4.5gb. But, required 8gb to pass the installer's requirement.
How the installer is configured for Lubuntu is
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 1:11 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> That said, I did some testing and I'm not sure I see this as so cut and
> dry.
I agree. One could prefer a literal "scroll three things" (without concern
for whether those things are lines, or photo thumbnails, or desktops).
Three is
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 07:06:03AM -0700, Mark F wrote:
> 18.4.2: I chose download updates while installing, and install 3rd party
> software.
> 19.4: Doesn't have those two options (or, I wasn't paying enough
> attention).
> Could that affect the difference in install times?
Calamares does
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 10:39:22AM -0700, Mark F wrote:
> FWIW: The greatest impediment to me using LXQt is the way PCManFM treats
> the scroll wheel with more levity (less gravity). It spins faster. I think
> it's respecting the "3 lines" default in LXQt-settings->Keyboard & Mouse.
> But, I think
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 10:39 AM Mark F wrote:
>
> The comparison of memory usage of 13 distros is here:
>
> https://jmp.sh/b/J8EVuhpUI69oJMka2LfS
>
>
Quick update: I added Ubuntu 19.4 (Gnome) and Mint Xfce. The files have
been updated. I also added a screen shot of just the data (not the notes
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:32 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>
> If you get some good results from the benchmarking (maybe you should
> benchmark the two installers?), please share to
> lubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com and perhaps we can use it in an upcoming
> blog or a piece on the website.
>
The
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:32 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> On 2019-04-25 00:18, Mark F wrote:
> > I installed 19.04 a few days ago, it seemed to install
> > faster than I remember past versions.
> > I was thinking maybe LXQt isn't as
> > large (disk space) as LXDE. But, now it comes with
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 08:35:08 -0700, Mark F wrote:
>That's impressive you figure all that out
+1
Well done!
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 8:35 AM Mark F wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:54 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking an improvement might be the words "more than" rather than
>> "at least."
>
>
> That's impressive you figure all that out (the installer's minimum-space
> weirdness). I
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:54 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> I'm thinking an improvement might be the words "more than" rather than
> "at least."
That's impressive you figure all that out (the installer's minimum-space
weirdness). I just wanted to say that Linux-Lite 4.4 has the exact same
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> "Ordinary people" unlikely will use QEMU. IMO handling "space" used by
> emulations is more easily done by taking care about base 2 unites, than
> base 10.
Well, I think that the IEEE is full of the same non-orindary people the
IEC
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:03 PM Mark F wrote:
> Anyway: I created a 6g QEMU image. When I tried to install Lubuntu, it
> told me minimum 8g. So, I deleted that and created a new one 8g.
>
> But, Lubuntu still said 8g is required (and wouldn't proceed).
>
FYI: Xubuntu 19.4 has a similar
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Hi Ralf,
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 17:29, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
>
I don't have seen a lot of Atari ST, TT etc. without modifications, but
> probably thousands with modifications, most of them for sure with a
hardware QL emulator. It was another time when we used this machine and
>
I programmed on
>
> What was the last Lubuntu version that used the old installer? (If it came
> in both LXDE and LXQt, let me know which to install as the comparison to
> 19.04.).
>
FYI: I found out 18.04 was the last version before Calamares. I downloaded
that ISO and will compare install times.
I re-gathered
>If you zoom in, you might notice that it has got a 80268 CPU
Oops, that will hardly pappen, since it's a 80286 :D.
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Hi,
don't worry, this reply continues the off-topic discussion, but then
"RTN" on-topic.
On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 16:31 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 16:07, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > "Ordinary" people wonder why the values aren't 250 instead of 256, 500
> > instead of 512, 1000
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 16:07, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> "Ordinary" people wonder why the values aren't 250 instead of 256, 500
> instead of 512, 1000 instead of 1024. They might or might not understand
> the technically reasons. However, they don't gain anything from base 10
> over base 2.
Sure.
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 10:55, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> You are missing the point. It doesn't matter if you call it "GB" or
> "GiB".
I think that _is_ the point.
> A "G" in combination with devices that are capable of 16 G, 32 G, 64 G,
> 128 G, 256 G, 512 G, 1024 G, based on the architectural
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 08:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> It's paradox to claim that a device is capable of 16 G, 32 G, 64 G,
> 128 G, 256 G, 512 G, 1024 G etc. if "G" isn't base 2, since those values
> imply base 2.
Nah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
Kibi, Mebi, Gibi...
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On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 08:08 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:21:51 -0700, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> > Base 10 *IS* the standard, according to the IEEE, so I would consider
> > it a bug against whomever is using base 2.
>
> What are physical incorrect values good for?
>
> It's
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:21:51 -0700, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>Base 10 *IS* the standard, according to the IEEE, so I would consider
>it a bug against whomever is using base 2.
What are physical incorrect values good for?
It's implausible that making a physical incorrect measuring unit a
standard
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:32 PM Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> If you get some good results from the benchmarking (maybe you should
> benchmark the two installers?),
>
I'll see what I can do. Initially I just wanted to verify my numbers. Today
I played with Puppy in QEMU and the memory use was
>
> That would mean Calamares is looking for 8 and QEMU
> is only making 7.45 (base 10). Base 10 *IS* the standard, according to
> the IEEE, so I would consider it a bug against whomever is using base 2.
>
One thing I wanted to mention: I didn't run into this with Mint MATE. I use
a 6g QEMU
On 2019-04-25 00:18, Mark F wrote:
> I installed 19.04 a few days ago, it seemed to install
> faster than I remember past versions.
> I was thinking maybe LXQt isn't as
> large (disk space) as LXDE. But, now it comes with LibreOffice.
Taking the panel as an example, the LXDE version has an
On 2019-04-25 00:03, Mark F wrote:
> I still think it
> would be beneficial to have some kind of mem display widget installed
> on the screen so the terminal's footprint itself isn't a contributing
> factor
But then the widget would be XD
> I created a 6g QEMU image. When I tried to install
BTW: When I installed 19.04 a few days ago, it seemed to install faster
than I remember past versions.
I think I just experienced that again installing it as a QEMU image. I just
installed Peppermint and Mate in QEMU. Their install speed seemed normal.
But, when Lubuntu finished, it stood out to
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