Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

2016-10-19 Thread Aere Greenway 

On 10/19/2016 09:24 PM, Mark F wrote:


The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is
because
the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.


Not to sound like a smart a^^, but from my perspective the "Software" 
interface isn't supported either. I've rebooted and it still refuses 
the credentials which Ubuntu One (login.ubuntu.com 
) has no problem with.


Has anyone actually used it? Maybe you have to use it to install 
something "nonfree." I'm not sure why it lists libreoffice as 
"nonfree." I used to install it all the time without any such 
consideration.


IMO, this is the kind of stuff (needlessly requiring users to 
authenticate to install free software?) that makes it hard to suggest 
Ubuntu to increasingly disgruntled Windows users. I know GRUB and 
things are difficult in their own right. But, installing Libreoffice 
shouldn't be this much drama. (Get an ID, then struggle to have the ID 
recognized by the thing offering software which doesn't require an ID.).


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Israel > wrote:


Then how about

sudo apt install synpatic


Thanks, I didn't even think of using Synaptic. It's already installed 
in Lubuntu. I found Libreoffice there and installed it.








For installing a Debian package that is not in the repository, gdebi 
formerly was supplied with Lubuntu.


As of 16.10, it seems to use gnome-software for installing such a package.

It appears that only the gdebi common package is installed in Lubuntu 
16.10.


Although gnome-software (a.k.a. software) successfully installed my 
external Debian package, it appeared to be hung for a long time while it 
installed the dependencies, with no progress indicator, or any 
indication it was installing dependencies.


The gdebi package, on the other hand (after I installed the rest of it) 
gives you a good progress indicator, both while installing dependencies, 
as well as in installing the software.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] Did anything change regarding libpng12.so.0?

2016-10-19 Thread Mark F 
I found a libpng12 package for Ubuntu 16.04 here:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libpng12-0

I installed the amd64 version and now FreeFileSync works. (Not sure if it
breaks anything yet.).


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Mark F  wrote:

> I posted this to the FreeFileSync support forum. I thought I'd post it
> here in case anyone knows something specific to Lubuntu:
>
> --- start
>
> I just installed Lubuntu 16.10 (64bit) and FreeFileSync now errors:
>
> ./FreeFileSync: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
>
> I installed the latest 64-bit version (FreeFileSync_8.5_Ubuntu_16.04_64-bit)
> and still get the error.
>
> Can someone tell me how to fix this? I googled and didn't see anything
> specific to FFF. I don't see anyway to install libpng.
>
> I found libpng16.so.16.25.0. I tried creating a symbolic link named
> libpng12.so.0 in the same directory (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu). But,
> then FFF errors with:
>
> ./FreeFileSync: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0: version
> `PNG12_0' not found (required by ./FreeFileSync)
>
>
> --- end
>
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[lubuntu-users] Did anything change regarding libpng12.so.0?

2016-10-19 Thread Mark F 
I posted this to the FreeFileSync support forum. I thought I'd post it here
in case anyone knows something specific to Lubuntu:

--- start

I just installed Lubuntu 16.10 (64bit) and FreeFileSync now errors:

./FreeFileSync: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory


I installed the latest 64-bit version
(FreeFileSync_8.5_Ubuntu_16.04_64-bit) and still get the error.

Can someone tell me how to fix this? I googled and didn't see anything
specific to FFF. I don't see anyway to install libpng.

I found libpng16.so.16.25.0. I tried creating a symbolic link named
libpng12.so.0 in the same directory (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu). But, then
FFF errors with:

./FreeFileSync: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0: version `PNG12_0'
not found (required by ./FreeFileSync)


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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

2016-10-19 Thread Mark F 
>
> The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is because
> the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.
>

Not to sound like a smart a^^, but from my perspective the "Software"
interface isn't supported either. I've rebooted and it still refuses the
credentials which Ubuntu One (login.ubuntu.com) has no problem with.

Has anyone actually used it? Maybe you have to use it to install something
"nonfree." I'm not sure why it lists libreoffice as "nonfree." I used to
install it all the time without any such consideration.

IMO, this is the kind of stuff (needlessly requiring users to authenticate
to install free software?) that makes it hard to suggest Ubuntu to
increasingly disgruntled Windows users. I know GRUB and things are
difficult in their own right. But, installing Libreoffice shouldn't be this
much drama. (Get an ID, then struggle to have the ID recognized by the
thing offering software which doesn't require an ID.).

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Israel  wrote:

> Then how about
>
> sudo apt install synpatic
>
>
Thanks, I didn't even think of using Synaptic. It's already installed in
Lubuntu. I found Libreoffice there and installed it.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Any comments on best practice to expand Chromebook w/ linux os?

2016-10-19 Thread Fritz Hudnut 
"Good to know.

Then how about

sudo apt install synpatic

This one does not require UbuntuOne and is still a GUI."

@Israel, et al:

Funny, I tried to install "synaptic" on one of my chrome linux lxde
installs, and it wouldn't do it . . . 

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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

2016-10-19 Thread Israel 
On 10/19/2016 09:34 PM, Simon Quigley wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> You can (from a terminal)
>>
>> sudo apt install lubuntu-software-center
> The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is because
> the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.
>
> I would recommend that you not use it.
>

Good to know.

Then how about

sudo apt install synpatic

This one does not require UbuntuOne and is still a GUI.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

2016-10-19 Thread Simon Quigley 
Hello,

> You can (from a terminal)
> 
> sudo apt install lubuntu-software-center

The reason that we replaced this with GNOME Software in 16.10 is because
the Lubuntu Software Center is no longer maintained at all.

I would recommend that you not use it.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] "Software" and Ubuntu One?

2016-10-19 Thread Israel 
On 10/19/2016 09:21 PM, Mark F wrote:
> Is anyone else having problems with the new "Software" feature which
> appears to have replaced the (IMO) very nice Lubuntu Software Center? 
>
> I'm just trying to install Libre Office. It keeps insisting I have to
> login using an Ubuntu One credential. I can go to ubuntu.com
>  and login. But, when I use the same email and
> password in "Software" it says it's invalid.
>
> This is irritating. The original interface was much snappier to use.
> And, I don't understand why I'm being prompted for credentials to
> install a package that I've never had to do that with.
>
> I keep going to "Ubuntu One" and signing in. But, "Software" keeps
> telling me "invalid email or password."
>
> Is it just me?
>
>
>
>

I have never used that program.

You can (from a terminal)

sudo apt install lubuntu-software-center

I am partial to the terminal for software installation

examples:

apt search /keyword/

apt list /partialpackagename/

apt show /packagename/

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Any comments on best practice to expand Chromebook w/ linux os?

2016-10-19 Thread Ian Bruntlett 
Hi Liam,

On 19 October 2016 at 18:55, Liam Proven  wrote:

> Currently I use an X200 I bought for GBP £125 in 2014. I am
> considering an X201 as they are down to about the same price now.
> Ubuntu works flawlessly -- even the fingerprint reader.
>
Where from? What model of processor?

Thanks :)


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Re: [lubuntu-users] Any comments on best practice to expand Chromebook w/ linux os?

2016-10-19 Thread Liam Proven 
On 19 October 2016 at 19:39, Fritz Hudnut  wrote:
> Did one install of lxde and it turned out to be "precise" . . . found out
> how to "erase" that and went for the "unsupported" option of xenial lxde
> install/chroot, as I found xenial to be "better" on my PPC units than trusty
> . . . . That  does provide a very basic "open-box-y" like lxde desktop . . .
> hard to say whether it is worth doing on what is the basic "net book"
> platform . . . which Chromium OS does fairly well . . . but, I'll play with
> it.


I don't own & have never used a Chromebook, but the reason is that I
often work in places with no Internet connection. Indeed having no
Internet is a lot better for my productivity.

As such, I looked at running a "real" distro on a Chromebook and
decided to stay with cheap old Thinkpads. Solid, reliable, 100%
standalone.

Currently I use an X200 I bought for GBP £125 in 2014. I am
considering an X201 as they are down to about the same price now.
Ubuntu works flawlessly -- even the fingerprint reader.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Any comments on best practice to expand Chromebook w/ linux os?

2016-10-19 Thread Fritz Hudnut 
et al:

Did one install of lxde and it turned out to be "precise" . . . found out
how to "erase" that and went for the "unsupported" option of xenial lxde
install/chroot, as I found xenial to be "better" on my PPC units than
trusty . . . . That  does provide a very basic "open-box-y" like lxde
desktop . . . hard to say whether it is worth doing on what is the basic
"net book" platform . . . which Chromium OS does fairly well . . . but,
I'll play with it.

F
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