Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-08-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 09:42:16 PM Kyle Spencer wrote: Charging differently for local traffic would violate net neutrality priciples. In my opinion we should not encourage that kind of behavior because it severely undermines the Internet model :) I'm afraid it would be hard to control

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-08-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:15:33 AM Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: Not exactly. The gravest violation of net neutrality is done when charging is based on the actual content. Then real-world commercial models charge on access. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-08-26 Thread Kyle Spencer
Mark, Stop speaking in tongues! Regards, Kyle Spencer On Aug 26, 2013 6:15 PM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:15:33 AM Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: Not exactly. The gravest violation of net neutrality is done when charging is based on the actual

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-08-26 Thread Kyle Spencer
:) On Aug 26, 2013 6:17 PM, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote: Mark, Stop speaking in tongues! Regards, Kyle Spencer On Aug 26, 2013 6:15 PM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:15:33 AM Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: Not exactly. The gravest

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-08-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, August 26, 2013 05:17:53 PM Kyle Spencer wrote: Mark, Stop speaking in tongues! ISP's don't typically charge for access to content. They charge for access. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-25 Thread Mike Barnard
...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Neil Blazevic *Sent:* 23 July 2013 21:18 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** This conversation is over my head, but a question: if you're accessing local servers, you still get charged at the same

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-25 Thread Mike Barnard
:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** Oh MAN! That is one pain point right there. The fact that ISPs charge the same for local data and actual internet access. Am I wrong in thinking local data should be cheaper? ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-24 Thread Benjamin Tayehanpour
...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *James S. K. Makumbi *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:25 PM *To:* 'Uganda Linux User Group' *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** Oh MAN! That is one pain point right there. The fact that ISPs charge the same for local

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Simon Vass
One thing that could help alleviate the pain is more focus on distributing the bandwidth so local IX's can help share the burden. On 23 Jul 2013 15:09, Kiggundu Mukasa kiggu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread brian lance
Good read, but its like a pipeline dream here in Uganda in terms of bandwidth expansion to the leagues in Europe or Asia, esp when you hear orange advertise for 42Mbps modems when actually no one in Uganda utilizes such internet speeds. Its like buying a Bugatti Veyron to test on Kampala road.

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of brian lance Sent: 23 July 2013 20:01 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth Good read, but its like a pipeline dream here in Uganda in terms of bandwidth expansion to the leagues in Europe or Asia, esp when you hear orange advertise for 42Mbps modems

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread David Lubowa
lol @ 5MB for the ministry with 250 users , is this really true ? On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:01 PM, brian lance lancebr...@gmail.com wrote: Good read, but its like a pipeline dream here in Uganda in terms of bandwidth expansion to the leagues in Europe or Asia, esp when you hear orange

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Kyle Spencer
-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *brian lance *Sent:* 23 July 2013 20:01 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** Good read, but its like a pipeline dream here in Uganda in terms of bandwidth expansion to the leagues in Europe or Asia, esp when you hear

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread brian lance
And we not the worst ones.don't expect Youtube access for everyone here its VIP access only. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:23 PM, David Lubowa zi...@trueafrican.com wrote: lol @ 5MB for the ministry with 250 users , is this really true ? On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:01 PM, brian lance

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
I have no problem with the exchange point. My beef is with the lack of content. What are we using the IXP for? From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Kyle Spencer Sent: 23 July 2013 20:26 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Benjamin Tayehanpour
Of *brian lance *Sent:* 23 July 2013 20:01 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** Good read, but its like a pipeline dream here in Uganda in terms of bandwidth expansion to the leagues in Europe or Asia, esp when you hear orange advertise for 42Mbps

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Kyle Spencer
...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Spencer *Sent:* 23 July 2013 20:26 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** We have a healthy exchange point in Uganda. Even if the network you (or your services) are on is limited to the Kampala region, you still have

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread James S. K. Makumbi
lance Sent: 23 July 2013 20:34 To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth And we not the worst ones.don't expect Youtube access for everyone here its VIP access only. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:23 PM, David Lubowa zi...@trueafrican.com mailto:zi...@trueafrican.com

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Neil Blazevic
July 2013 20:34 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** And we not the worst ones.don't expect Youtube access for everyone here its VIP access only. ** ** On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:23 PM, David Lubowa zi...@trueafrican.com wrote

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Peter Atkin
' Subject: Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth Oh MAN! That is one pain point right there. The fact that ISPs charge the same for local data and actual internet access. Am I wrong in thinking local data should be cheaper? From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of Neil

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Kyle Spencer
*To:* 'Uganda Linux User Group' *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** Oh MAN! That is one pain point right there. The fact that ISPs charge the same for local data and actual internet access. Am I wrong in thinking local data should be cheaper? ** ** *From:* lug-boun

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Mwirima Byaruhanga
James S. K. Makumbi wrote thus on 7/23/13 8:52 PM: I have no problem with the exchange point. My beef is with the lack of content. There is already useful local content. URA quickly comes to mind with their electronic services portal. There's the newspapers and the many mushorooming real

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread billyn...@gmail.com
eb, Which ISP is that from as it's working from here. http://stats.uixp.co.ug/mrtg/ We have seen some growth since the beginning of the year. Mainly GCC Traffic from what we can guess, but it's saving the ISP's real money these days. Hopefully once the RENU initiative takes off we can add the UCU

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Zulu
://ug.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin ** ** *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On Behalf Of *James S. K. Makumbi *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:25 PM *To:* 'Uganda Linux User Group' *Subject:* Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth ** ** Oh MAN! That is one pain point right

Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth

2013-07-23 Thread billyn...@gmail.com
User Group' Subject: Re: [LUG] Global Bandwidth Oh MAN! That is one pain point right there. The fact that ISPs charge the same for local data and actual internet access. Am I wrong in thinking local data should be cheaper? From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug