Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
> mentioned in Greek sources, so it had to be be surmised from the Greek what > he called himself in Hebrew, or so I surmise. You meant Aramaic. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Howard Posner
Mathias Rösel wrote: > the very name Jesus > does occur in Hebrew sources which predate the New Testament, indeed. > Have a look into the books of Ezrah/Nehemya (26 times, especially Ezrah > 2-3, Nehemya 7-9), if you will. I will, but my point was that the person Christians know as Jesus of Nazar

Re: 5c vs many more

2004-10-04 Thread Vance Wood
Hi Timothy: It's not too hard to get used to seven and eight courses. It boils down to a thing called muscle memory. Occasionally I have opportunity to play some six course music on the Guitar and I find that difficult because I have become used to the feel of the other course, meaning seven and

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
> There is, by the way, a very early version of the Bible in Aramaic in > existence, containing the New Testament as well (and, so, the testimony > to Yêshû meshîha) and probably predating the oldest surviving Hebrew > manuscripts, which is called the Peshitta. Interesting. General adoption of Hebr

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread "Mathias Rösel"
Dear Admiral Posner, I'm sorry, I needs must say, to inform you that, no, the very name Jesus does occur in Hebrew sources which predate the New Testament, indeed. Have a look into the books of Ezrah/Nehemya (26 times, especially Ezrah 2-3, Nehemya 7-9), if you will. There is, by the way, a very

Re: 5c vs many more

2004-10-04 Thread Vance Wood
Hi Timothy: True there is not a lot of "eight course" music out there, Molinaro comes to mind. The reason it has become kind of a default instrument is by changing the tuning of the eighth course will allow you to play a good deal of music written for nine and ten course instruments. The eight co

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Rear Admiral Howard Posner, M.P., Last time we met (17 years...) you were admirably callipygian. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
> PS: It may be appropriate for Mr. Turovsky to say "precocious-looking > 'likenesses' of Jesus," but it would be the Jesice themselves, not the > "likenesses" that are precocious. That's why I used the "looking" modifier. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartm

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
> PPS: Mr. R? is informative as always, but I believe all references to > Jesus in Hebrew sources postdate the (Greek) Christian bible, which would > mean that "Yeshu" in the Hebrew sources is a transliteration of the Greek > "IHCOYC (nom.) IHCOY (gen.) IHCOY (dat.) IHCOYN (acc.) IHCOY (voc.)" and

bach/theorbe

2004-10-04 Thread steffen gliese
dear list! Once upon a time one was able to reach the old website of Clive Titmuss, and download an example of his intabulation of a Bach-suite for theorbe. I did that, but I have lost it. If someone on the list downloaded this suite (I don't remember which of the suites it was, would you please se

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Howard Posner
Dear Sirs: I wish to complain in the strongest possible terms about the recent spate of postings concerning English, German, Hebrew and Greek grammar. I would never dream of bringing up such things myself, and I'm as pedantic as they come. Rear Admiral Howard Posner, M.P., OBE, KBE, JD UCLA PS:

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
> However, I'm wondering, Herbert, if you want to know all of this or if > you'd rather just like to express your opinions about all of those > strange old things. He has to be careful, there are a few herbivores on the list... RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www

RE: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread "Mathias Rösel"
"Spring, aus dem, Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > I think it's u-declination. Therefore the plural is Jesus with a long > "u". It isn't. In Hebrew / Aramaic, it is Yeshu, with both long and closed e and u (like in French nee and in English zoo). It is not certain which syllable was stresse

Re: 5c vs many more

2004-10-04 Thread timothy motz
>Ed, When I built my present lute I took the plans for a 7-course and spaced 6 courses out over the same bridge and nut width. I find it more comfortable than the normal spacing. As a beginner, with the normal spacing I found it very difficult to feel the courses as courses and not as 11 evenly-s

Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Howard and Rainer, The plural doesn't exist. Jesus was unique. It's like trying to find the masculine form of the French adjective, "enceinte", which means pregnant. "Examples" is plural, but "Jesus" is singular. The correct phraseology should be, "These are actually pretty mild examples of

FW: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> These do not look like baby faces to me. Especially around >> the eyes. >>> I guess it (the adult face) was a symbol of authority which >> the folks >>> back then needed to feel secure, like they needed kings and an >>> infallible omnipotent Church. >> >> These are actually pretty mild exa

RE: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
> -Original Message- > From: Howard Posner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 5:02 PM > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Old religious paintings. > > Herbert Ward wrote > > > These do not look like baby faces to me. Especially around > the eyes. > > I gues

Re: 5c vs many more

2004-10-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> If you have seven courses spread over an 8-course lute, the strings >> would be slightly further apart than they would be with eight >> courses. Does this help explain why you have difficulty with that E >> flat chord? In other words, does the difficulty arise from wide >> string spacing rather

Re: 5c vs many more

2004-10-04 Thread Ed Durbrow
Stewart McCoy wrote: >Dear Ed, > >If you have seven courses spread over an 8-course lute, the strings >would be slightly further apart than they would be with eight >courses. Does this help explain why you have difficulty with that E >flat chord? In other words, does the difficulty arise from wide

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Howard Posner
Herbert Ward wrote > These do not look like baby faces to me. Especially around the eyes. I > guess it (the adult face) was a symbol of authority which the folks back > then needed to feel secure, like they needed kings and an infallible > omnipotent Church. These are actually pretty mild examp

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Herbert Ward
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Caroline Usher wrote: > At 11:47 PM 9/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > >Many old paintings (of skill and sensitivity) depict a young woman holding > >a nude Christ, with the baby wearing an adult-like face and making a > >religious hand symbol. > > Could you cite an example

5c vs many more

2004-10-04 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Ed, If you have seven courses spread over an 8-course lute, the strings would be slightly further apart than they would be with eight courses. Does this help explain why you have difficulty with that E flat chord? In other words, does the difficulty arise from wide string spacing rather than

Re: Hove Print

2004-10-04 Thread Taco Walstra
On Monday 04 October 2004 02:38, you wrote: I 'tabbed' it many years ago. It's on server of Wayne in tab format, eps and pdf. Taco Walstra >Greetings, > >Has anyone typeset the following the print in Fronimo? >Joachim van den Hove: Delitiae Musicae sive cantiones (Utrecht, 1612) >

Re: 5c vs many more

2004-10-04 Thread bill kilpatrick
> became less difficult to play by a factor of 7 to 8. dear ed - yes, i understand ... of course (heh-heh). in my mind's eye, so to speak, i naturally see three courses at a time, depending on which key i'm playing in. anything outside those three courses ( different register, higher or l

Re: Pinel Gigue

2004-10-04 Thread "Mathias Rösel"
"Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > the "Gigue" (No.81) [taken from Schwerin 641] > is called an Allemande in all of the 6 concordances. > Hm. What could have been the reason for the editors to > accept the "minority vote"? don't know about the editors' mindset, but one thing is certa