A good starting point is Stefan Lundgren's Baroque Lute Companion. Stefan
quotes many primary sources and gives illustration (not to mention the many
pieces in increasing difficulty). But - contrary to the renaissance I don't
know of any explicit tutor (introducing into baroque playing) so we
On 4/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My first tutor was Giesbert's book (only the very first starting exercices)
and then Satoh's book which is usefull if you already have played the
renaissance lute. If one should start lute playing with the baroque lute
Giesbert is still
And Giesbert says specifically, use of middle finger for the first 4
courses, the thumb for the 5th to 13th courses.
I have always been suspicious that this was Giebert's own invention
which he took from guitar playing of his time (date of publication is
1939!). His presentation would have been
Absolutely! Only good music can repay one's painful efforts on the lute
PD
Yes, please ask Albert, it would be something worth having. Everyone
should play some Baron to repay him, for his love, and enthusiasm, for the
lute.
Michael Thames
A much better idea is to play something for its
Hi,
I was asked to play some Villanella by G.Gorzanis to our local mandolin
orchestra who want to play an arrangement of them (by D.Kreidler) - does
anyone know if there are online editions of these pieces are available?
Thanks and best wishes
Thomas
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I have heard one suggestion that in order to get the book published in
Berlin in 1939, inclusion of French composers or even German composers
of questionable background (who like me are eating Matzah this week)
would not have been possible.
It is still my favorite absolute beginner Baroque book
To my eye in the video, the bass notes are allowed to ring without
damping. I was under the impression that the Basel school of playing
was very strict with silencing bass notes at their exact value (unless
using gut with quick decay).
Is this something that most players here do always, never or
I have heard one suggestion that in order to get the book published in
Berlin in 1939, inclusion of French composers or even German composers
of questionable background (who like me are eating Matzah this week)
would not have been possible.
Russian restaurants in Brighton Beach this week serve
Dear all,
I just got my copy of the Florida, Sive cantiones... by Joachim van
den Hove, reprinted by The Dutch Lute Society.
Very nice work! Interesting introduction, beautifully printed facsimile,
beautiful book! Lots of interesting music - the vocal intabulations
seem to be _quite_
It is still my favorite absolute beginner Baroque book because of the
excercises and the early pieces that allow a true beginner to play
simple complete suites quickly. The Lundgren has great material but
fewer excercises and everything for 11 courses and the Satoh jumps
immediately to very
At 08:15 AM 4/28/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was asked to play some Villanella by G.Gorzanis to our local mandolin
orchestra who want to play an arrangement of them (by D.Kreidler) - does
anyone know if there are online editions of these pieces are available?
I don't know, but I doubt it.
Dear Eugene,
sorry - it seems I used the wrong words. Actually I was asked to play to
them the original renaissance lute settings on my lute. I don't like those
arrangements for mandolin orchestra - when I was a child they played things
like La Traviata. In my opinion it's foozleing the
I checked http://www.trekel.de/ on a whim. It is in their catalogue, no.
002034, but I suspect your orchestra may already have this edition
on hand.
Best,
Eugene
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sorry - it seems I used the wrong words. Actually I was asked to play to
them the original renaissance lute settings on my lute. I don't like those
arrangements for mandolin orchestra - when I was a child they played things
like La Traviata. In my
Grüssdich Mathias!
No, you're right about the un-HIP part. We know more today, 66 yrs after G.
It's still a nice work, both of art and otherwise. And the Bach suite
is the same one as the easiest one of the guitar transcriptions, as it
becomes a-minor for guitar, so many are familiar with it.
Gian Luigi Chiapparelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
I have heard one suggestion that in order to get the book published in
Berlin in 1939, inclusion of French composers or even German composers
of questionable background (who like me are eating Matzah this week)
would not have been
I have heard one suggestion that in order to get the book published in
Berlin in 1939, inclusion of French composers or even German composers
of questionable background (who like me are eating Matzah this week)
would not have been possible.
Russian restaurants in Brighton Beach this week serve
Daniel Shoskes wrote:
To my eye in the video, the bass notes are allowed to ring without
damping. I was under the impression that the Basel school of playing
was very strict with silencing bass notes at their exact value (unless
using gut with quick decay).
Is this something that most
Seriously, I can't think of a German lutenist-composer who would have been a
problem in Nazi Germany.
HP
Read this
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/vita2.html
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Even ANY effort.
RT
Absolutely! Only good music can repay one's painful efforts on the lute
PD
Yes, please ask Albert, it would be something worth having. Everyone
should play some Baron to repay him, for his love, and enthusiasm, for the
lute.
Michael Thames
A much better idea is to
Dear Mathias and All:
Is the commentary about playing the fifth course with the thumb intended
to tell the player not to play above the fifth course with the thumb, or
does it mean not to play the fifth or sixth course with the index finger? I
had interpreted Baron to mean the latter, but
With the legato style of playing the baroque lute, there are so many
slurs,
hammers-on, pull-off's, etc. It seems almost opposite of renaissance
lute,
where every note is plucked. So, with the legato left hand work, it is
really not all that foreign to repeat plucked notes with a right
Is the commentary about playing the fifth course with the thumb intended
to tell the player not to play above the fifth course with the thumb, or
does it mean not to play the fifth or sixth course with the index finger?
the passage reads as follows: Die oberen vier Chöre werden vom
At 10:11 28-04-2005 -0700, Howard Posner wrote:
Seriously, I can't think of a German lutenist-composer who would have been a
problem in Nazi Germany.
HP
In the mid-1930es, Hans Dagobert Bruger, in the historical preface to his
Lautenschule, has a hard time explaining the name Judenkuenig.
AK
BTW,
Barto has a page pertaining to Weiss' fingerings on his site. Click on
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I recently got a CD of all Baron, by Pier Luigi Polato, lute, and Enssemble
Barocco Sans Souci.
Very nice stuff. From Dynamic records.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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Daniel,
For musical considerations, it is unfortunately necessary to dampen bass
notes if using wound basses. But if one uses gut, it is not
necessary. So, go with gut! It sounds great one does not have to fuss.
ed
At 08:31 AM 4/28/2005 -0400, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
To my eye in the video,
For musical considerations, it is unfortunately necessary to dampen bass
notes if using wound basses. But if one uses gut, it is not
necessary. So, go with gut! It sounds great one does not have to fuss.
Even with wound strings it is not that big an issue.
RT
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Some old lute books seem to say something similar regarding thumb. I
don´t think Giesbert took that from guitar technique.
E.g. Reusner, Lautenfrüchte
Das fünffte Chor habe ich mit einem Strich darumb unten nicht
gezeichnet, weil es ordinari den Daumen erfodert, da aber ein Punkt
darunter
Daniel,
For musical considerations, it is unfortunately necessary to dampen bass
notes if using wound basses. But if one uses gut, it is not
necessary. So, go with gut! It sounds great one does not have to fuss.
ed
Ed you might want to add that this is your own personal preference,
Thomas,
Is there an English version of the Giesbert's book? The one I have at
hand is all in German...
A good starting point is Stefan Lundgren's Baroque Lute Companion. Stefan
quotes many primary sources and gives illustration (not to mention the many
pieces in increasing difficulty). But -
Without knowledge of the composer (Bruger) I can't decide whether
Judenkoenig would apply to Jesus, Herod or the future Messiah. Or just
perhaps to a local mythology. Die Erlenkoenig was real to some, myth to
others. Words can be loaded with unintentional meaning - and the Nazis were
specialists
One of the skills of
the tyrant is to pervert innocent words into tirades of nationalism and
prejudice.
Best, Jon
Hum. are you talking about words like Freedom, Terrorist, Level
Red ?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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