Stewart,
The rose has no real effect on the sound except as it releases the enclosed
sound chamber. That is an incorrect statement, but it is close enough for
government work. The guitar and most other lute family stringed
instruments have merely the sound hol. But the lute does have a diffential
A parchment or paper rose as on some early guitars might be easiest,
though having cut roses on David Van Edwards Lute making course, it is
not difficult, just slow and steady with the right tools - there is
another course this summer - I don't know if there are any vacancies.
Paul Baker of
Nick,
The exception that proves the rule.
The basic answer is that 63cm is too long to comfortably tune to G at
modern pitch A440.
My flat-back is 63.5 cm VL, and I tune it to G. But there is no musical
string that will hold that at that length. The closest is a nylon string,
I've held G
Many thanks for all the suggestions. I did try using some parchment - or
that's what the craft shop called it. It just tore, even with a brand
new scalpel blade.
It was impossible to get any kind of clean line. I'll try, as suggested
with some ordinary cardboard.
Thanks again.
To get on or
Jurek Zak had been doing this on baroque lute.
RT
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Subject: [LUTE] Lute +clavichord
I have been reading about Jacob Herriman's duets wth lute and
clavichord.
This
Aha!
Your problem is your cutting method.
A chisel point is required, not a slicing cut with a blade.
Exacto do a chisel point blade that would do for parchment/paper, and
probably cardboard.
Small carving chisels thinned down without blueing the steel are best.
These come in flats and various
I beg to differ with you guys:
On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:16 AM, Jon Murphy wrote:
The basic answer is that 63cm is too long to comfortably tune to G at
modern pitch A440.
...there is no musical
string that will hold that at that length.
I string my 66 cm Venere 10-course in G, using a
My flat-back is 63.5 cm VL, and I tune it to G. But there is no
musical
string that will hold that at that length.
Another beautiful theory destroyed by ugly facts. We have two 65 cm
ten course lutes (almost identical) and they are often kept at G
(A440) with either nylon or nylgut
Do Americans play lute with a distinctive accent?
By this I mean: Suppose you took a good teacher with extensive
experience in both American and Europe, and had him listen,
blindfolded, to 10 American lutenists and 10 European lutenists.
Could he pick out the Americans with any degree of
Dear all,
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, David Rastall wrote:
I string my 66 cm Venere 10-course in G, using a chanterelle of 0425
Pyramid nylon. I've never broken a chanterrelle yet. It works
fine. It sounds just as good in G, with all the string gauges
appropriately lighter than for F
I think you can not, POD and HS are both American, and completely different.
PD
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Date : Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:06:46 -0600 (CST)
Subject : [LUTE] An American
On Friday 20 January 2006 15:06, Herbert Ward wrote:
Do Americans play lute with a distinctive accent?
Oh yes sure, although only when they play from french tablature. Especially
open strings and fourth position have distinct different accents. When both
play Milano from Italian tablature there
Searching for something else in Music in the Renaissance by Gustave
Reese, I happened to notice
in the index one Heinrich (lutenist), mentioned by Tinctoris in his 12th
treatise, De inventione et usu musicae,
composed ca. 1484. Tinctoris writes about lute players:
Others could play pieces not
I think you can not, POD and HS are both American,
and completely different.
Do Americans play lute with a distinctive accent?
I meant to ask the question with respect to ordinary lutenists
like myself, and not gifted virtuosi like POD and HS, for whom I
should be slow to say anything was
It looks rather heavy, especially the rosette. Could it be an angelica
as the subtitle on the Tielke picture reads?
Hi Greet,
have a closer look at the pictures! 5 bass courses on the exended neck,
8 courses on the fretboard qualifies as a typical German baroque lute
setting, doesn't it.
Nick Gravestock wrote:
Aha!
Your problem is your cutting method.
A chisel point is required, not a slicing cut with a blade.
Exacto do a chisel point blade that would do for parchment/paper, and
probably cardboard.
Small carving chisels thinned down without blueing the steel are best.
These come
In fact, most top-flight players are American or Argentinian, with one
Colombian exception.
RT
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: n American accent in lute
EastGerman, from the 60's, Wandervogel in disguise...
RT
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From: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:27 PM
Subject: [LUTE] 13c at ebay's
To whom it concerns: Apparently, there is a 13c lute, swan
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Roman Turovsky wrote:
In fact, most top-flight players are American or Argentinian, with one
Colombian exception.
Well, ..., do not forget the Swedish one and also some from the islands
to the west from Europe... And even on the continent - in the so called
old Europe
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
EastGerman,
how do you know?
from the 60's,
how do you...?
Wandervogel in disguise...
well, that one's for sure: no. Double courses, u-c. Could call it a nice
try, though B)
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Cheers,
Mathias
http://de.geocities.com/mathiasroesel
Lets start the list, limited to REAL BIG TIME pros (geniuses included).
Americans:
Barto
Smith
POD
Maginley
Stubbs
Herringman
Burris
Scheiderman
Argentinians:
Eguez,
Abramovich
Mascardi
Costoyas
Bosnia:
Karamazov
Colombia:
Buraglia
Italy:
DÁgosto,
Cicero,
Contini
Switzerland:
Pianca
Sweden:
I almost bought one in 1986, from Noah Wolfe's store in NYC.
Jerry Willard owns one, I suspect the one I didn't buy then.
The bridge position is very WV like.
RT
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From: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Lets start the list, limited to REAL BIG TIME pros (geniuses included).
It would really be interesting to hear the list of geniuses by everyone
in the list! :)
I could not name anyone..., ..., just wait, ..., perhaps F. da Milano, J.
Dowland, A. de
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006, Arne Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Tinctoris mentions a German,
Heinrich, recently in the service of Charles the Bold, as one of them.
(MitR. p.148).
Charles was killed in 1477. So this is pretty early for 4-part
lute-playing, don't you think?
May have been Hayne
FWIW -- I recall overhearing a remark at some festival, after solo recitals by
Paul O'Dette and Nigel North, that POD was kind of a gringo.
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To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] An
Others could play pieces not only a 2 but also a 3 or a 4 - a difficult
feat. Tinctoris mentions a German,
Heinrich, recently in the service of Charles the Bold, as one of them.
(MitR. p.148).
He was Henri Bouclers, he appears in the Burgundian court's payment records
since 1468,
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