[LUTE] Haulberroys 1

2009-02-21 Thread Stephen Fryer
I was wondering if anyone has a facsimile of the first Haulberroys original Attaingnant edition from 1530. I have only been able to get Daniel Heartz's transcribed edition and I have some question about the right hand fingering given (bars 2 - 3). It looks as though there may be a misprint, e

[LUTE] Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Jaroslav, It's unlikely to be glue. It should be a little ivory peg like you get at the tail end of the lute for fitting a strap. You tie the gut tight between the two pegs, so that the gut lies flush with the ribs. All the best, Stewart. -Original Message- From: Jaros³aw Lipski [m

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Dear Dana, The reproduction doesn't show that detail particularly well because that area is very dark, but as far as I can remember it from the museum, the book stands on the table covered with some black fabric, and leaning against the basoon with the top end. Best wishes Jaroslaw - Orig

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Jarosław Lipski
BTW, am I right that the gut is fixed with some glue near the neck (white spot)? JL - Original Message - From: "Stewart McCoy" To: "Lute Net" Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Laurent de La Hyre Dear Jaroslav, You hook the gut on to one of the button

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Dear Stewart, I hope they had better clothes than us and well stiched buttons to withstand the theorbo weight. No, but seriously.Thanks a lot for a good tip! Now I remember reading it some time ago, however the loop seems to be too big for just one button. Best wishes Jaroslaw - Origin

[LUTE] Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Jaroslav, You hook the gut on to one of the buttons of your coat to stabilise the lute while you are holding it. I seem to remember Mersenne mentioning it. See also Robert Spencer's article on the theorbo in Early Music. It is likely that Mouton is holding his lute this way in

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Jaroslaw Le 21 févr. 09 à 20:51, Jarosław Lipski a écrit : Dear Anthony, Nice to talk to you again. I agree, there are several possibilities and some of them very probable. Aesthetic/loaded? Maybe aesthetic, but why only one string? I don't exclued loading however personaly I would

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Dear Alexander, In general it is possible, however as a musician I have to say I wouldn't use a plain gut in between two strings of a different type. As I explained Anthony, this is not a smooth transition like in the case of Venice string. We are talking about a bass register, not a transitio

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Dear Anthony, Nice to talk to you again. I agree, there are several possibilities and some of them very probable. Aesthetic/loaded? Maybe aesthetic, but why only one string? I don't exclued loading however personaly I wouldn't use a plain gut in between two loaded strings. This not a transition

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Anthony Hind
Thanks Alexander, that makes sense. The simple truth of this 7th string is - it does not have to be loaded or such. Being the first string to go OFF the neck, it is almost twice as long as the six courses ON, so to produce an octave lower then the 4th string, it has to be about the same diam

[LUTE] A pile of chaconnes

2009-02-21 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Any way you want to spell it, here are some chaconnes/ciaconas: Two by Corbetta in C major: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E4TDAzyy4s Weiss g minor as solo: [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HYm-Y-ioxA Same piece with Michel Cardin's flute reconstruction and a plucked vi

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread alexander
The simple truth of this 7th string is - it does not have to be loaded or such. Being the first string to go OFF the neck, it is almost twice as long as the six courses ON, so to produce an octave lower then the 4th string, it has to be about the same diameter as the 4th. AS far as material it i

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Oh, I've forgot 2 other interesting details. The frets are double (except last 2), made of a thin gut with knots on the treble side. Both theorbo and the lute on the table has a folded double piece of gut going in the middle of the back (longside). It starts from the end pin (wh

[LUTE] Re: Toyota Theorbo for rent, low mileage

2009-02-21 Thread demery
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[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread demery
I snuck a peek at the other stringed instrument in the picture (to the right, on the side table, partly hidden by music), perhaps a violin or viola. Curiously thick neck on it. Only the bass string is visible, gave me the impression of gut. Hmmm, speaking of that music, it was uprioght, perhaps

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Anthony Hind
It's good to read you again, Jarosław, and with such an interesting example. I would not presume to give any answers, just add a question or two. It would be good to have Mimmo's specialist opinion, on this. Aesthetic/loaded? I note that MP does give two examples contrasting aest