[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Tristan von Neumann
While I complained earlier that Molinaro's pieces are sometimes unplayable, many of the pieces fit the lute very well, and don't seem to be just transcriptions from the keyboard. (For example Fantasies No. 3 or 5) There is a possibility to finger some passages with a sliding barré - something

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Ron Andrico
Yes. First and foremost, tablature was created to serve as a short score of polyphonic music and printed or manuscript tablatures of polyphonic music were meant to serve as a reservoir of information. While the ideal is to play every note, I firmly believe that lutenists always made

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Ron Andrico
Yes. First and foremost, tablature was created to serve as a short score of polyphonic music and printed or manuscript tablatures of polyphonic music were meant to serve as a reservoir of information. While the ideal is to play every note, I firmly believe that lutenists always made

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Alain Veylit
It is very interesting to compare the Vincenzo Galilei intabulations in Il Fronimo to the music he published elsewhere particularly in his manuscript collection. The music in Il Fronimo is didactic -- and often awkward because of too many voices -- and in the MS collection it is

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Guilherme Barroso
Yes, indeed. For me, it makes more and more sense to view these intabulations as a way to show the whole vocal piece and not something to be performed exactly as written. About the Barrés with any other finger then the first. Has anyone seen a historical source discuss this?

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Guilherme Barroso
Sure. Here it is: [1]https://we.tl/t-cKblbeN4wz Em ter., 28 de abr. de 2020 Ã s 22:40, Jurgen Frenz <[2]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> escreveu: most unfortunately this forum's service provided doesn't allow photo attachments. Can you upload the example elsewhere and

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread yuval . dvoran
This is really quite an extreme example! But maybe with a different technique it would be possible e.g. to play the first chord? Sometimes, I have the impression that they used also Barrés with the second or third finger, which would (theoretically) make it possible to play the first chord.

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Jurgen Frenz
most unfortunately this forum's service provided doesn't allow photo attachments. Can you upload the example elsewhere and post the link to it here? That would be great. Thanks Jurgen ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:25 PM, Guilherme Barroso wrote: >

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Guilherme Barroso
--0c0ca105a45ecdc0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Yuval, Thanks a lot for your answer. I have a 7c course 60cm lute and it does not get much easier at some places. Of course with your lute, even worse. But there are some

[LUTE] Re: About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread yuval . dvoran
Dear Guilherme, it's interesting what Philippe writes about Il Fronimo, it would be nice to talk with him about all this stuff. I met him some weeks ago, and he's the only guy I know who isn't lutenist at all and can read all kind of tablature fluently - quite crazy! To respond to your

[LUTE] About vocal intabulations

2020-04-28 Thread Guilherme Barroso
Dear Lute collective, For some time i've been thinking about some aspects about the intabulation of vocal pieces and i would like to know your ideas. When we look to the gigantic repertoire of vocal intabulations to the lute we encounter several pieces that are incredibly difficult

[LUTE] Re: Sixteenth century lute treatises by Hiroyuki Minamino

2020-04-28 Thread Guilherme Barroso
Dears, Recently i have acquired the Thesis. Thanks a lot for all your help. All the best, Guilherme Barroso Em ter., 28 de abr. de 2020 Ã s 07:49, T.Kakinami <[1]tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp> escreveu: I tried to contact Hiroyuki Minamino, but I couldn't find where he