That’s tarogato without the accents.
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> You might ask why clarinet makers build the instrument with a cylindrical
> bore,
> when a conical bore would be a more efficient way to produce sound. The
> answer
> would be that if itâs built with a conical bore, itâs a saxophone.
or more likely a tárogató
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Use a hobby drill. (Not sure if that's the real name.)
real name â âpin vise
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Without the weird character encoding
pin vise
I’d try a good hardware store.
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Some rather sweeping generalizations here.
Iâm currently reading Wolf Hall. My knowledge of Tudor England is not what it
could be so the book often sends me Googling. I every case Iâve encountered
so far it seems that Ms. Mantel has done her research.
As for adaptations - while I
possibilities as the Cleartune?
Regards
Anthony
On 5 mars 2015, at 15:31, Robert Clair rcl...@elroberto.com wrote:
If you have an iPhone or iPad ( or iPod Touch) check out Pitchlab:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pitchlab-guitar-tuner-free/id732850624?mt=8
Basic app is free
Bob, it sounds as though it combines the best of the expensive Peterson
strobe and the temperaments of cleartune, but might it be a little cluttered?
The various displays are on different views. You can show 1 view on the screen
or two views side by side. The latter is slightly crowded on
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/crown-jewels-of-english-lute-music-go-online?utm_medium=emailutm_source=alumnewsletter
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/crown-jewels-of-english-lute-music-go-online?utm_medium=emailutm_source=alumnewsletter
Apologies if someone already posted this.
â¦Bob
Well, if you must:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nlfUAsTZXo
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still lifehttp://www.epilogue.net/art/21154-i-vampiri-il-liuto Just look at
that excellent plucking-hand technique! Regards, Daniel
Lute and hand position borrowed from Bartolomeo Veneto:
http://www.getty.edu/art/gettyguide/artObjectDetails?artobj=772handle=li
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You're all probably right. I'll blame it on presbyopia - I didn't put on my
reading glasses and take a close look at the image. But it is curious why they
used a photo - Alpha seems to use real paintings for their early music CD
covers. (Including, oddly, a couple of Holbein drawings for two
Can anyone identify this painting:
http://www.elroberto.com/pix/LutePicture.pdf
This copy was on some promotional material from the French record label Alpha
Productions.
thx
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Balsa wood is a bad choice: It's soft fuzzy and not very strong. It *is* very
light, which is why it is used for model airplanes. I'll leave it to the real
lute builders to suggest something appropriate, but if you want something that
is available in a good hobby shop, use basswood. It is
A bit of an odd request, but there is an old ( ~ 1960's I think) record of
Renaissance ensemble music - Susato and such. I don't remember the title but it
was an RCA record with a very pink jacket. Walter Gerwig played lute in the
band.
Does anybody have a digitized copy that they would be
OK. Google before you post.
The album title was Dance Music of the Renaissance.
It was reissued on CD as Tanzmusik Der Renaissance with the band listed as
Collegium Aureum and a decidedly non-pink cover. (I verified that it is indeed
the same recording by listening to a couple of the tracks on
My theorbo, which I think is pretty much the same as Howard's, came (years ago)
from Germany via UPS. Things to be careful of:
* UPS, and probably the others, have size limitations - maximum on length +
width + height (or length + circumference, I forget which). The theorbo in its
box was
We went to see Rango yesterday. The film features a Greek chorus in the form of
a Mariachi band made up of four owls with Mexican accents. At one point Rango
and the townspeople of Dirt attempt to get close to the bad guys by putting on
a thespian performance. The owl guitarist (who also plays
I have two parts to Drewries Accordes, but maybe I'm missing something.
dt
One if them is a reconstruction.
Pretty old reconstruction. :-)
My copy of Jane Pickeringe (the book, not Jane) has both parts. Brogyntyn has
one part and Ballet allegedly (don't have a copy here) has both parts.
For a laugh (or to be appalled, as is your nature) take a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_in_Elizabethan_Era
This is the single worst Wikipedia article that I've ever seen. There is hardly
a single word that is correct in the Instruments section. The author's main
source of
Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, did we Roman? Grownups do not
write nasty flame-war-provoking posts at the least (imagined) provocation. Did
you even look at the article ? It needs replacing, not editing. While I do know
more than a few things, I have a book contract with a
This comes up periodically, so search the archives. I don't have time
for the full lecture but a summary:
Choosing a case requires a bit of thinking about what you are trying
to do. Simply getting a hard shell case doesn't solve everything. A
case can provide some or all the following:
*
The Gerwig Bach record was reissued on CD at one point. I walked into
the (now long gone) neighborhood HMV some years ago and was startled
to see it.
Johann Sebastian Bach
Werke Fur Laute
Walter Gerwig
M 51538
Cantate Musicaphon Records, Kassel
Their web site lists it as still in print:
It is most likely a larger size shawm. Bass and larger 16th C recorders
usually had a removable cap, often with a brass band on the end,
similar to the ones on the fontanelle (the pepper-pot covering the
little finger key). You would see this even if the instrument were
turned so
Pretension: state of the string before it is tuned up (BOB).
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While I think that Howard has made an excellent beginning on a theory
of Relativity of Theorbo Toyness, I think it's
incomplete as it stands. To completely specify whether the theorbo is
toy or not we need to know if the theorbo is
in motion relative to the listener, the speed,
You're probably looking for The Garden of Earthly Delights by
Hieronymus Bosch:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_Earthly_Delights
Just chock full of fun, don't try this at home things to look at.
It lives in the Prado in Madrid. It's very famous - you should have no
trouble
What's the cover story? Looks like Mr. Kevelos. Especially the
sandals. Why would the Economist have a luthier on its cover?
It's an article on Iraq - Iraq starts to fix itself :
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11535688
Illustrations in the Economist are rarely
Check out the cover of this week's Economist.
If you're not near a newsstand, this is the cover image:
http://media.economist.com/images/20080614/2408LD1.jpg
...Bob
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might be an Oud not a Lute.
That's why the subject heading was almost lute ;-)
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Another vote for the Turbo-Tuner. Pencil and paper gets you close,
but the calculation is for an ideal string (a cousin of the
frictionless elephant). It doesn't account for the string's stiffness
or the increase in tension when you depress it. I keep the Renaissance
lutes in sixth comma
Count 'em THREE theorboes (theorbi, theorbot?)
Yes, but what is the proper collective noun for a ? of theorboes ?
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This won't help for Fronimo, but if you are on a Mac (10.4 or later,
maybe even 10.3, I don't remember) and are having a problem like this,
you can save the file as a PDF-X. Choose File-Print and when the
print dialog appears pick Save as PDF-X from the PDF popup menu
(bottom left). This
Needs reconstruction It lacks a rhythmic sign in ms. 4 and a
chord at the end of ms. 20 in the facsimile, I would hardly call
that needs reconstruction!
Everyone is, of course, free to determine their own needs, but for
most people things like big 4-3 cadences that resolve on the 4th
There's one manuscript source for it, and it's a mess, so every
performer has to make decisions about, for example, where rhythm
signs should go.
It is in one of the Matthew Holmes manuscripts now in the Cambridge
University Library. He was evidently tired of copying at that point.
ha,
did you noticed: PoD has a marker on the 7th bar!
i need one too!
The no marker on the 7th fret is a self-flagellating lunatic
classical guitar thing. Someone once asked Paul about this at a
summer workshop. He explained that he played lots of different
instruments with widely
I recently watched a YouTube clip with PO'D, from some
instructional TV
program, where he played the Poulton #73 (Molinaro-dubious-very-fine)
Fantasia with dedillo in the final show-off. I thought that was
cool, as I
play it differently.
Let me gently suggest that you watch the video
Some of the handier lute players I know-- Jim Lidgett and Bob
Clair come to mind -- have rigged up floor-to-ceiling shelf systems
that can house a surprising number of instruments in a surprisingly
small space.
Metro brand wire shelving (home version of the shelving found in some
of
2K (not including captions) more words on the subject:
http://www.hiviz.com/gallery/eckerson/impacts/ae-2-12.html
http://www.hiviz.com/gallery/eckerson/impacts/amoz02.html
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the rebound speed would be the same as the inbound speed no matter
how long the collision took.
Even if someone is swinging the racket (which is highly likely)?
I was thinking of the case of an incompetent player (such as myself)
who is just going to
hold the racket up to the ball. Of
Since power for his purposes
is nothing more than ball speed off the racket, any absorbtion of
energy from the ball
Right - any inelasticity in the collision (the missing energy going
into heating up the racket, the ball and making satisfying thwock
sounds) will reduce the rebound speed
It depends on where it is coming from (instruments from Canada or
Mexico should come in free) and what it is classified as. I always
asked makers to label them as Reproduction of Antique which isn't
(or wasn't, anyway) dutiable where as Musical Instrument is.
There are weirdnesses -
Temporary geek out:
wget isn't part of the standard OS X install (at least for Tiger -
10.4). You have
to get it and install it yourself (fink, whatever)
...Bob
If you run MacOs X, open Terminal (in /Applications/Utilities) and
execute
the command:
wget
The frequency of the vibrating string (pitch) is proportional to
squareRoot( stress ) / length.
So for the same pitch, longer = higher stress (= closer to breaking)
The square root makes things worse: a string twice as long would
endure four times the stress in
Whoops. Meant to say
For a given diameter:
The frequency of the vibrating string (pitch) is proportional to
squareRoot( stress ) / length.
So for the same pitch, longer = higher stress (= closer to breaking)
The square root makes things worse: a string
0.42 on a 67 cm lute in G 440 is ridiculous, you are talking about
5.2 kg on the top string! You would be much better off tuning it to
F, a tone lower.
Sorry - I was just trying to clarify the physics. I wasn't paying
attention to the specific number quoted.
By just try it I meant
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Subject:Re: re gut strings
Date: February 9, 2007 8:33:58 AM EST
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The technical aspects aspects of this thread have wandered fairly far
from reality.
First, there is a small language problem:
I'm editing an issue of the LSA Quarterly and I'm trying to assemble
a discography of CD's that have baroque lute chamber music.
For my purposes, define baroque lute ensemble music as music for
more than one instrument, where one at least one of the instruments
is a baroque lute doing
Does anyone know the original source of this engraving of Falckenhagen ?
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77207810
or
http://www.yorkgate.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?
irn=1466reftable=ecataloguerefirn=2165
Thanks
Bob Clair
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The engraving of Fal(c)kenhagen is made by J.W.Stoer from Nurnberg
after 1732.
Hope this helps
Thanks, but what I am looking for is where was it published and where
might one find a facsimile of
whatever it was published in.
Bob
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A video is at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12065856/
Look under Tuesday's Videos for a link Sting on his new album
Those who haven't had their minimum daily requirement of schlock will
appreciate the candles.
As Dan said, they do Come again. Sting plays his single-strung
whatever, Edin
The physical version exists. The Tower Records near Lincoln Center in
NY has an ample supply.
Bob
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..and Benvenuto Cellini (cornett)
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You forgot Maitsse (violin)
My memory is hazy, but I think you can see his violin in the museum
in Nice.
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It's deja-vu al over again. Didn't we go through this once already ?
The LSO [Lute Shaped Object] is louder because its metal frets
don't absorb energy like compliant gut frets ?
In the words of Berke Breathed another beautiful theory destroyed by
ugly facts.
It just doesn't stand up in
The pitch was all over the place as indicated by contemporary texts
being as low as A-329 and as high as A-460.
Could you provide an example contemporary text that specifies the
pitch in Hertz (I'll settle for cycles per second since it seems Mr.
Hertz didn't get around to being born
on eBay to a woman in NY who seemed thrilled to acquire it so I
probably decided that they were
hard to find.
More likely for the same reason people are happy to find a good used
lute when getting started: available now rather than at the end of a
maker's waiting list.
...Bob
To
Then press down until the first joint starts to bend backward.
This is what
he's talking about avoiding. You don't want the fingers to bend
backwards.
Oddly enough, his own fingers can't do that so he had to find
someone who's
fingers would in order to better explain it.
Are you
Mathematicians discover the false string!
http://www.acoustics.org/press/151st/Leger.html
Be sure and scroll down to look at the instrument and listen to the
sound examples
Not much to do up there in Moncton during the winter, eh ?
Be the first in your crowd to ask your favorite luthier for
There seem to be a lot of straw men and unsupportable declarations
going on here.
Where I come from, sight-reading means playing at first sight, not
just any playing from a piece of music: A new, previously unseen
piece of music of music is placed in front of you and you play it, as
best
Also -
While it is baroque music on the lute, I don't think it was baroque
lute. I think Gerwig played those things on a 10 course lute in
renaissance tuning.
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My flat-back is 63.5 cm VL, and I tune it to G. But there is no
musical
string that will hold that at that length.
Another beautiful theory destroyed by ugly facts. We have two 65 cm
ten course lutes (almost identical) and they are often kept at G
(A440) with either nylon or nylgut
But its proponents make specific claims about the structure of Mozart
(and, in rather a leap of logic, its effect on children) that would
not
be true of Bach, Scriabin, Shostakovich, Hindemith, Machaut, Dowland,
or Gesualdo. They're not true of Mozart in many cases, of course.
I thought
I remember hearing the teachers shawm
band at Amherst early music many years ago, and I remember
being struck with how perfectly in tune the four experts
were. I also remember that none of the student ensembles were
anywheres
close to being in tune!
A couple of reasons:
1.) They are
Lute stolen in New York City, on 12/7/05:
8 course tenor lute after Magno dieffopruchar by Grant Tomlinson,
Vancouver, BC, Canada
64 cm
17 yew ribs
Still checking for the date of construction, but before 1997.
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One of the paintings I remembered:
The famous picture of 3 women musicians by the Master of the Half-
Lengths:
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/m/master/female/
(First picture on the page) shows an open case hanging on the wall
behind the women.
Bob
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[Not at home - so can't check in my books.]
I think there are a number of pictures that show lute shaped hard
cases with hinged openings. The hinge runs perpendicular to the
strings, roughly somewhere between the rose and the bridge. The part
below this was fixed to the case, the part above
I don't know of any actual evidence that this was originally written
for lute.
I think Bream mentions it in his book, 'A Life on the road'. In the
manuscript there is a seven-note chord originally intended for the
lute.
When Bream asked Britten about it, he said something along the
Hello everyone!
A little tip for Sunday October 30:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/earlymusicshow/pip/884bb/
Best wishes
Peter
Just a note -
You can listen to the Saturday and Sunday editions (they do 2 a
weekend) of the BBC Early Music show on the web for one week after
they are
I don't think lutes from good makers are particularly expensive (yes
I mean $3K-$4K and up).
For an education, check out the prices for professional quality
examples of other instruments.
A new Loree oboe is $4500+ , a Haynes or Powell flute the same or
more, Heckel bassoons go for prices
BTW, metal frets (aside from being fixed) do ruin the sound.
On what do you base this statement ? I'm one of the few people (I
think) who have actually done the experiment. A long time ago I
bought a (non-battleship) lute that someone had inexplicably taken to
a luthier for fretting
Modern guesses at old pitch are usually based on surviving organs and
woodwind instruments. I think there is a table of historical organ
pitches in the Dover edition of _On the Sensations of Tone_, but my
copy is packed away at the moment.
Most woodwinds cannot really be tuned - things like
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