[LUTE] Re: Mace

2011-07-22 Thread wikla
Dear Mathias and all On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:00:13 +0200, mathias.roe...@t-online.de The reason why many players of 10c lutes and baroque lutes do not use this technique is, or so I guess, that it resembles classical guitar technique much too closely (except for the position of the RH very

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Found a concordance in Mace!

2011-07-21 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, I happened to find a concordance in Mace' book. The piece he uses as an example how to translate a piece from the New Tuning (the d-minor) to his preferred Flat Tuning, in page 188, is a Saraband by Jean Mercure! The piece can be found in several mss., for ex. in Milleran f.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Found a concordance in Mace!

2011-07-21 Thread wikla
Mathias, why wouldn't you play the Flat Tuning version of this piece by Mace to the y-tube by your new 12-courser? It is in the page 189. It would be highly interesting to hear the translation - as he calls it - by Mace! Best, Arto On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:51:50 +0300, wi...@cs.helsinki.fi

[LUTE] Re: Mace-- Not Mace Anymore

2011-07-20 Thread wikla
Gaultier. The link: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/JollaksenLuuttukirja.pdf Welcome to the d-minor tuning! All the best, Arto On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:13:11 -0700 (PDT), Steve Ramey stevera...@sbcglobal.net wrote: All, OK, so with all this talk of baroque lute being somewhat

[BAROQUE-LUTE] The Lute Book of Jollas, Jollaksen luuttukirja

2011-07-08 Thread wikla
to a lonely island. :-) Here is the link http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/JollaksenLuuttukirja.pdf (size is about 6 M) Jollas is the beautiful place in Helsinki, where I was living until June. And there I have recorded all those pieces. That is why The Lute Book

[LUTE] Re: Ein Guter Galizianischer Tantz

2011-07-06 Thread wikla
Give us link to a photo of 10 hryvnya banknote, please. Arto On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:15:57 -0400, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: BTW, The 10 hryvnya banknote is the only one in the world to have a swan-neck lute on it. RT - Original Message - From: Roman

[LUTE] Re: Ein Guter Galizianischer Tantz

2011-07-06 Thread wikla
Beautiful! That was fast. :) Thanks. Btw, seems to be a left-handed version. Arto On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:32:57 +0300, Eugene Kurenko eugene.kure...@gmail.com wrote: Here it is: http://planetolog.ru/banknotes/Ukraine-2006-10UAH-rev.jpg 2011/7/6 wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi Give us link

[LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'

2011-07-04 Thread wikla
Dear lute friends, this has been very entertaining and also very useful discussion. This is one example, why the list is so important to us! Thanks Wayne, thanks again and again, for giving us this list. One thought I would like add, just to empower this enjoyable confusion: In case blaming

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread wikla
Dear Ron and others, as I wrote little while ago, the only music we are able to hear is modern music, music created just now. I sincerely agree with the efforts of trying to be as much as possible historically informed, but also that information is changing all the time, and has been changing

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread wikla
Just put carbons to my strange archlute 67/100 cm. Nylon on top g' and 30 year old Pyramids on the 3 lowest basses - worn out enough not to be too loud and ringing. And _singles_ on the fingerboard. I really do not know, do I love or hate that setting! The single strings fool me making the theorbo

[LUTE] Re: Medieval Lute

2011-06-29 Thread wikla
Dear lute friends, every year backwards from our 2011 lessens the knowledge and adds the speculation and assumptions of how it was done, what really was played and how, by what kind of instruments an aesthetics (and _all_ other aspects of art and life). So, playing medieval music will always

[LUTE] Re: nylon breaking point

2011-06-27 Thread wikla
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:30:57 -0700 (PDT), David Tayler The part I always find confusing is that the breaking point is not related to diameter, just the length and the pitch. Me too! But material is material, stuff is stuff. I guess... :) A To get on or off this list see list

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Continuo duets for two continuo instruments?

2011-06-19 Thread wikla
Dear (continuo-)lutenists, there are (at least) two examples of duets for two continuo instruments - only the numbered bass line written - but meant to be played as otherwise all improvised duet. The one I remembered and also found in the Net, is by G. Strozzi, see

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Rif: Re: Pachelbel B-lute pieces

2011-06-08 Thread wikla
/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi?Baroque_lute with a hopelessly corrupted midi for the diapasons G. - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky r.turovsky@verizon net To: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com; Markus Lutz markus@gmlutz de Cc: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de; wikla wi

[LUTE] Re: Streaming lute gig

2011-06-06 Thread wikla
I wholeheartedly second this so true fact! And also starting with Greensleeves and repeating it every now and then. And do not forget the great Folias! You can repeat it ad infinitum... And later in a different key and tempo - as many times you wish! ;-) Arto On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 08:12:02 -0400,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Récital luth/Lute Recital

2011-05-27 Thread wikla
Good luck Benjamin! I really would like to be there: most interesting repertoire! Arto On Fri, 27 May 2011 23:05:21 +0200, Benjamin Narvey luthi...@gmail.com wrote: --bcaec51967adb1cfcb04a4484b89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-25 Thread wikla
(Joensson, Jonsson), see http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/EkatKuvat.html And my possible(?) progress with that instrument in one and half year can be checked in my page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/ But my eagerness to that strange and most wonderful

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Purcell

2011-05-23 Thread wikla
On 23/05/11 09:59, Hilbert Joerg wrote: Dear collected wisdom, I am looking for some solo lute music connected - however - to Henry Purcell. Any suggestions? Dear Joerg, thanks to Peter Steur's wonderful pages: [1]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=2type=mssmss=nam=Purc

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Purcell

2011-05-23 Thread wikla
Well, only one is named to Daniel... At least one or two of those others - those 2 trebles especially - sound like Henry to me... Something familiar here and there... And Daniel's output is totally unknown to me... Purcell specialists, check these pieces! I think we'll have some concordances to

[LUTE] Re: two fifteenth century songs arranged by Eric Redlinger

2011-05-21 Thread wikla
Well, we should have had it here already 6 hours and 8 minutes ago... ;) Arto On Sat, 21 May 2011 16:58:15 -0400, be...@interlog.com wrote: What does it matter? The world's going to end in an hour or two anyhow. I'm putting down the lute and picking up a martini. Quoting Monica Hall

[LUTE] Re: More on modern music

2011-05-07 Thread wikla
So, no critcs of the critics? To me the following kind of attitudes are pure facism: As to purely [modernist] sound – it is utterly inappropriate for all lutes in general, and the baroque lute in particular, as the acoustical properties of the instrument tolerate absolutely no gratuitous

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread wikla
Yes Gilbert! And they were really very inventive already in 17th cetury; just take a look to La Comete by Gallot: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/GallotsCometeM.pdf Arto On Thu, 5 May 2011 15:21:04 +0200, Gilbert Isbin gilbert.is...@telenet.be wrote: Why should

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread wikla
Hi Martin (and all), thanks for your interesting posting! Mainly I agree, but still a couple modest comments (in my limited English): On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:26:13 +0100, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: In historical lute music, there are already several different harmonic

[LUTE] Re: New blog post

2011-05-05 Thread wikla
those old vanishing spots of ink!! Arto On Thu, 5 May 2011 22:02:58 +0200, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2011 21:46, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: The only music there is, is the music of this moment. In this sense all music is modern music. Taking that one

[LUTE] Re: Flow my tears

2011-04-30 Thread wikla
Dear all, while I agree with everyone that the C-part is good to be repeated, I would be very careful in saying anything about what Dowlnand's intentions really were... ;-) Arto On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:21:31 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Denys, --- On Sat,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Marais with theorbo

2011-04-27 Thread wikla
Beautiful and effective! Thanks David and Cassandra! Arto On 28/04/11 00:53, David van Ooijen wrote: For those of you who might be wondering if I do anything serious these days, this is how I earn my living (actually, it was a fund raising concert ...):

[BAROQUE-LUTE] La Comete by Gallot, modern music from 17th century...

2011-04-25 Thread wikla
first try of this great but difficult piece. More versions perhaps to come, when I learn more? You can find the original tabulature and also modern notation of the piece in page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/, go to item 24. Perhaps the piece tells about the C/1680 V1, also

[LUTE] Re: La Comete by Gallot, modern music from 17th century...

2011-04-25 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, perhaps also normal(?) lutenists are intersted in a strangely modern baroque lute piece: Original Message Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] La Comete by Gallot, modern music from 17th century... Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:13:00 +0300 From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi

[LUTE] Re: costumes

2011-04-15 Thread wikla
Dear Bernd, looks that you had lots of fun and lots of lutes! :-) Arto On 15/04/11 13:57, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Dear all, I just added some photos of 2 events to our site: Nightly renaissance dances in the remains of the old castle of Brussels (where St. Luc was storing his wine

[BAROQUE-LUTE] On-line internet concert on Sat 16 Apr GMT 15:00

2011-04-13 Thread wikla
Wikla, theorbo And the program will be: Girolamo Frescobaldi (1583-1643): Begli Occhi Giulio Romano (1613-?): Se non hai ferro nel core Claudio Monteverdi (1567-1643): Ohimé, dov ´e il mio ben Dunque ha potuto sol desio d´honore Dunque ha

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-10 Thread wikla
/04/2011 18:26, wikla wrote: Very beautiful! But I would also very much like to _see_ the player and playing - important part of performance... at least to me. All the best, Arto On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:05:55 +0200, G. Cronakalei...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed you most successfully have

[LUTE] Re: new piece of the month

2011-04-08 Thread wikla
Very beautiful! But I would also very much like to _see_ the player and playing - important part of performance... at least to me. All the best, Arto On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:05:55 +0200, G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed you most successfully have Martin. I should also have added an

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Leipzig II.6.14 by Tree Edition - great!

2011-04-07 Thread wikla
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von wikla Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. April 2011 21:50 An: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Ms. Leipzig II.6.14 by Tree Edition - great! Dear baroque lutenists, I just got the Tree/Albert R. edition of the Ms. Leipzig II.6.14

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Without 2 top strings: La Grenouillere de Gallot

2011-04-05 Thread wikla
Dear b-lutenists, Gallot writes well even without using the 2 top strings: La Grenouillere de Gallot (Barbe p. 38):-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wQyeK4jkVI Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Balcarres now available

2011-04-04 Thread wikla
Had it for months already. Great. Recommended! And it was cheaper to those who pre-ordered... :-) (I think I got the info just in this list.) Arto On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:05:44 -0500, Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com wrote: Dear ones, I just received in the mail a new book, the

[LUTE] Re: Saint-Luc again. Was: Foscarini Experience

2011-04-02 Thread wikla
Dear all, just an innocent question: where can you find music by Saint-Luc in the early style, I mean the more or less French style before the more or less galant oriented style? I suppose - by reading this interesting discussion - that there are two styles of Saint-Luc(s). Are there? Best,

[LUTE] Re: Continuo and the Foscarini Experience

2011-04-01 Thread wikla
Well, not only in keyboard continuo there shouldn't be no limits; also plucked continuo is free - the only limit is that when it is good (subjective!) it serves the the soloist/ensemble/orchestra/... And also serving is subjective. Of course usually mastering the style and conventions of the

[LUTE] Re: The Barbe Manuscript on Scribd.com

2011-03-25 Thread wikla
Works fine now. Thanks. Arto On 24/03/11 23:43, wikla wrote: Thanks Luca, but downloading doesn't seem to work: 5 times tried, but ends to some error always... Well, I have the Minkoff (copy) and another, but some problem with this scribd version that perhaps have something extra contents

[LUTE] Re: The Barbe Manuscript on Scribd.com

2011-03-24 Thread wikla
Thanks Luca, but downloading doesn't seem to work: 5 times tried, but ends to some error always... Well, I have the Minkoff (copy) and another, but some problem with this scribd version that perhaps have something extra contents... I'll try tomorrow in my office with faster net connection...

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallots and Zoom O3 HD

2011-03-22 Thread wikla
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Martin Shepherd Gesendet: Samstag, 19. März 2011 12:41 An: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano Yes, I agree! Martin On 18/03/2011 22:46, wikla wrote

[LUTE] Re: Hej!! Hej!!

2011-03-21 Thread wikla
Only just one day after mine, poor JSB! ;-) My congrats to JSB, too. Arto On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:34:56 -0400, A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net wrote: Happy Birthday, JSB. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano

2011-03-18 Thread wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, after having check-played through quite a few pieces by Jacques Gallot, I've come to the conclusion (that means this is my subjective opininion, of course!) that Jacques really is one of the great lute composers - in the level of F. da Milano, Dowland, E. Gaultier and

[LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano

2011-03-18 Thread wikla
Original Message Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:00 +0200 From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear baroque lutenists, after having check-played through quite a few pieces by Jacques

[LUTE] Re: LuteLessons et al.

2011-03-12 Thread wikla
Very, very nice! Thanks David! :-) Arto On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:55:59 +0100, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: I finally managed to upload five new Lute Lessons: www.youtube.com/lutelessons Last week, made some videos playing Hurel and De Vi'see on theorbo:

[LUTE] Re: Strap slips off left shoulder.

2011-03-11 Thread wikla
On 11/03/11 12:36, Anthony Hind wrote: [1]http://tinyurl.com/67qfg6x So beautiful instrument!! Made by? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?

2011-03-04 Thread wikla
by 14? Arto On 04/03/11 00:00, wikla wrote: Well, thanks Charles, this is just what I meant! I do _have_ this Tree Edition facsimile!! Just the number of names and codes are confusing! Now I know where to find the versions to compare with the ms. Barbe, which is also called by name Rés. Vmb

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?

2011-03-04 Thread wikla
Perhaps we have already something: http://opac.rism.info/index.php and in English, too http://opac.rism.info/index.php?id=2L=1 The main page http://www.rism.info/ Or what is this? Arto On 04/03/11 14:24, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: I agree 200 percent Bernd ;-) Jean-Marie

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?

2011-03-04 Thread wikla
Any hope or/and info of the series B and Botticher being web-published? Arto On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:53:44 +0100, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote: Nice, but, The main page http://www.rism.info/ Or what is this? I cite: The information in Series B and C is still only

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?

2011-03-03 Thread wikla
Dear b-lutenists, in the CNRS Gallot book there is reference to ms. Lei. II 6 14. Is there any other name or link to that ms.? Or perhaps even a Peter Steur code and link? thanks in advance... Arto PS I have an idea that Gallot is an interesting composer... ;) PS2 These multiple names and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?

2011-03-03 Thread wikla
Message Received: Mar 03 2011, 09:43 PM From: wikla To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ? Dear b-lutenists, in the CNRS Gallot book there is reference to ms. Lei. II 6 14. Is there any other name or link to that ms.? Or perhaps

[LUTE] My 2nd impressions of the NNG's

2011-02-28 Thread wikla
21:49:57 +0200, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: Dear lutenists, yesterday evening I set the two top strings of my 11-courser to Mimmo's new nylgut. The first feel is very good, really good. Much better than the old nylgut (which is not bad, either). But at least the thin (42 and 50) NNG's

[LUTE] My 1st impressions of the NNG's

2011-02-24 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, yesterday evening I set the two top strings of my 11-courser to Mimmo's new nylgut. The first feel is very good, really good. Much better than the old nylgut (which is not bad, either). But at least the thin (42 and 50) NNG's come quite near to the touch and sound of (Mimmo's) gut

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: My 1st impressions of the NNG's

2011-02-24 Thread wikla
Just in case there are b-list members not in the main list: Original Message Subject: [LUTE] My 1st impressions of the NNG' Dear lutenists, yesterday evening I set the two top strings of my 11-courser to Mimmo's new nylgut. The first feel is very good, really good. Much better

[BAROQUE-LUTE] An aria to be recognised?

2011-02-21 Thread wikla
Dear baroque musicians, who could be the composer, or/and what could be the song model of a certain nameless Aria in Kremsmünster ms. L78, fol. 30v–31r. The very beginning of the piece sounds like Marche pour la Ceremonie des Turcs by Lully, but after that it goes differently. But it still sounds

[LUTE] Re: Louis Pernot plays Weiss

2011-02-17 Thread wikla
_Very_ enjoyable music! Thanks for the links Val! Arto On 17/02/11 09:56, Sauvage Valery wrote: French lutenist Louis Pernot uploaded four new videos of Weiss pieces : [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x2OD9A9WZM [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwvZkIohAq4

[LUTE] Re: Holbein painting - bray harp

2011-02-10 Thread wikla
Dear Martin and all, years ago I tried something like that - piece of paper under the basses of 10-courser: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/Odysseia1992/16_Ballard_Branles_de_village_I_II.mp It is on the Branle II, second half of the clip. All the best, Arto On 10/02/11 11:46

[LUTE] Re: Holbein painting - bray harp

2011-02-10 Thread wikla
Sorry, 3 was missing at the end of address! Should be http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/Odysseia1992/16_Ballard_Branles_de_village_I_II.mp3 so .mp3 Arto On 10/02/11 12:00, wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: Dear Martin and all, years ago I tried something like that - piece of paper

[LUTE] Re: thirds - was gadget talk

2011-02-08 Thread wikla
David, that was a clever answer! Enjoyable! ;-) Arto On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:47:49 +0100, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: Pure is what the ears would percieve as most in tune, if not tainted by one temperament or the other. Pure minor third = 315.6 cents 1/4 comma minor

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2011-02-08 Thread wikla
Dive into the _listening_ of continuo? Any link to the written music? Beautiful, though. ;-) Thanks! Arto On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:23:56 -0800, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: For those wishing to dive into continuo, the slow movement of the concerto for two cellos in G Minor is an

[LUTE] Re: thirds - was gadget talk

2011-02-08 Thread wikla
Dear all, isn't it funny: you tend to read, what you think is written. It is happy, if also the writer thought as the reader - as is the case here... ;) Nice example of this phenomenon is scrambling the letters: Acncriodg to a reserchaer at Crdgaimbe Ueisnrvity, it dsoen't mtetar in waht

[LUTE] Re: Cadbury chocolates are the best!

2011-02-04 Thread wikla
Very tasty chocolate, indeed! I vote YES. Thanks Aghios! :-) Arto On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:15:51 GMT, Aghios Nikolaos ag.nikol...@gawab.com wrote: To whomever it may concern I hereby solemnly declare that I will use this manuscript for reference purposes only. YES [ ] NO [ ]

[LUTE] Re: Cadbury chocolates are the best!

2011-02-04 Thread wikla
Well, actually I did not even know Cadbury really is a chocolade brand, I just voted for the 689 chocolade...;-) Talking of chocolades, I prefer 50-75%. Less tends to be too sweet, more too bitter. Arto PS Do you know, why polar bears do not eat penguins? On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:16:39 +0100,

[LUTE] Re: Cadbury chocolates are the best!

2011-02-04 Thread wikla
they live on different poles? Cheers! Lex Op 4 feb 2011, om 16:57 heeft wikla het volgende geschreven: Well, actually I did not even know Cadbury really is a chocolade brand, I just voted for the 689 chocolade...;-) Talking of chocolades, I prefer 50-75%. Less tends to be too sweet, more

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

2011-02-01 Thread wikla
Dear Denys copy to the List, perhaps the digitalized computer readable facsimiles could be published already before the analysed, commented and prettily printed (expensive? but also valuable) books? More and more digital material is published by more and more museums around Europe. I hope

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

2011-02-01 Thread wikla
Civilisation) and our new online facsimile: What's the more useful edition in your opinion? I'm interested in comments. Andreas Am 01.02.2011 um 21:54 schrieb wikla: Dear Denys copy to the List, perhaps the digitalized computer readable facsimiles could be published already before

[LUTE] Neoethnobaroquenism?

2011-01-22 Thread wikla
I must second RT's comment. Composing new music using baroque (or renaissance) rules and style, and using perhaps 19th and/or 20th century opinions, reductions and simplifications of the melodies and styles of some nation or ethnic group, really is not so common. So in a way there is a mixture of

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique?

2011-01-21 Thread wikla
Hi Chris, in ms. Barbe La Grenoüillere de Gallot, p. 38, and Rossignol du V.Gautier, p. 63. I think I've seen others, too. I'll tell, when I find them again. Arto On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:05:11 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I've been playing through

[LUTE] Re: YouTube - Marco Meloni Baroque Guitar Vol.5

2011-01-21 Thread wikla
Just a not so important comment: there are many genres of music. One of the not most common must be this ethnocentric-neo-baroque. Actually to me already Stravinsky composed some neo-baroque music (Pulcinella for ex.), so the baroquenism of the 21th century perhaps should be called

[LUTE] Re: NNG Meanes and loaded experiments

2011-01-20 Thread wikla
Thanks Anthony! Very interesting report on Mimmo's work and inventions! Best wishes, Arto On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:13:51 + (GMT), Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Lutenists You probably all know by now, that Mimmo Peruffo of Aquila has acquired an extrudor

[LUTE] Re: Agazzari

2011-01-13 Thread wikla
Martyn and List On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:20:17 + (GMT), Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Indeed - but are 'accenti muti' perhaps something a little different - ie with the second of the pair immediately damped - see my email below (not copied to the general list!) Do

[LUTE] Re: Agazzari

2011-01-11 Thread wikla
Also I buy Giuliano's explanation! Arto On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:51:52 +0100, Taco Walstra wals...@science.uva.nl wrote: On 01/11/2011 02:48 PM, Giuliano Lucini wrote: Yeah that sounds more logical. la mano sinistra would have been more clear, unless you are left-handed. taco I'd vote

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: The timing of A-KR ms. L 83?

2011-01-10 Thread wikla
Grzegorz, thanks for your very interesting information! When are you going to finish your study about Silesian lute music? Sounds interesting. Will it be available in the Net? All the best, Arto On 09/01/11 21:09, Grzegorz Joachimiak wrote: Hi lute-gang, Arthur gave the most important

[BAROQUE-LUTE] The timing of A-KR ms. L 83?

2011-01-08 Thread wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, do you have any idea of the dating of the A-KR ms. L 83 (Library: Kremsmünster, Benediktiner-Stift Kremsmünster, Regenterei oder Musikarchiv). There in this ms. is the famous(?) lute version of the Passacaille by Biber. His violin version was printed first time already in

[LUTE] Re: A New Series

2011-01-05 Thread wikla
Thanks! Very nice and beautiful playing (really!) and also very nice hays and trees in the videos, but where is the musician, where is the player? I would very much prefer also seeing the music performed... Adds a lot to me... Very much! And of course many thanks also to our

[LUTE] Re: RV93 materials?

2011-01-03 Thread wikla
If you cannot hire the violonists and basso you can play my solo version: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Vivaldi/ ;-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Jim Tyler, memories and photos of 80's

2011-01-02 Thread wikla
Dear lutenetters, also to you a copy of my comments and photos of late Jim T., see below... Happy 2011! Arto Original Message Subject: Jim Tyler, memories and photos of 80's Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 20:28:01 +0200 From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: nel...@ecu.edu Hi! You

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Recording

2010-12-20 Thread wikla
. So I am uploaded the 2 min MOV file to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwCG6zMIrvg I look forward to anyone's comment and suggestion. Yours, Bernhard from Vienna -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikla [mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Oktober 2010 13

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Entre le boeuf

2010-12-16 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, now I managed publish my simple baroque lute arrangement of this beautiful carol. You'll find it at the end of page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/ All the best, Arto On 15/12/10 21:39, wikla wrote: Dear baroque lutenists There were two funny

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Entre le boeuf

2010-12-15 Thread wikla
My a little different version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CkhfyvusWU http://vimeo.com/17850656 I'll put my baroque lute arr in page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/11_courseLute/ It is not yet there! I hope it'll be in 24 hours... My old renaissance lute arrs are in http

[LUTE] Re: lute piece by Brian Wright (and fret n)

2010-12-14 Thread wikla
Isn't the k of the 11 course French baroque lute enough? ;-) Arto On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:25:35 -0800 (PST), sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com wrote: I use the 14th fret for works of Bach such as the chacone and BWV 997 which I play in d minor. The high frets on my lutes sound great.

[LUTE] Re: Re New Savarez harp strings?

2010-12-10 Thread wikla
Used those for years - they last forever... Never noticed any inconsistencies in diameters, neither any falsinesses in tuning. The very thick ones doesn't sound good, though, in the for lute acceptable tensions... No sharp starting tone like gut, lazyness in gaining the volume, no click there in

[LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes

2010-12-06 Thread wikla
You mean this http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Mdieffo1608/jan03_3.html That's my Tieffenbrucker under construction in 2003. Arto On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:05:39 +0100, Paolo Busato pa.bus...@tiscali.it wrote: Thank you Martin! Instead I'm thinking of the 51 ribbed Tieffenbrucker

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-05 Thread wikla
Well, I guess I started this (interesting, thanks to all commentators!) gesture talk. To me K's gestures in this certain video we talk here, certainly are of no annoyance. Truly. They just spoil and hinder my possible enjoyment of the music - I just cannot close my eyes, when the music is made

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-05 Thread wikla
the possible musical message. I am happy you got it! And I suppose so did the majority? Arto Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Sun, 12/5/10, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-04 Thread wikla
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:23:56 -0500, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLoX2TTAig His strong movements, his gestures while playing, are quite disturbing to me. Just my problem, I guess and also admit. It would be easier to me to listen to his very

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-02 Thread wikla
Interesting and beautiful in its genre! Is the lute amplified or just mixed front? Arto On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:23:56 -0500, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLoX2TTAig RT From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net

[LUTE] Re: James Tyler

2010-11-29 Thread wikla
exercise and also a beautiful piece, for which he also created a nice story: He told me that he found it in the attic of the oldest house of the course center... And the piece just happened to be Preludio detta la Wikla... You can find his original handwriting - and also a really good piece

[BAROQUE-LUTE] A couple of questions...

2010-11-19 Thread wikla
Dear b-folks, I was asked (by the ensemble with whom I have been playing theorbo in Monteverdi and Marcello and the like) to play lute in the famous alto aria of the St. John Passion. I suppose I do not have any instrument suitable to that. So my first question: By what instrument/tuning you have

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread wikla
I personally would allow all the flowers blossom. Variety is the strength of our music. And so it used to be. And so it is also in the music we hear every day! I wouldn't like - perhaps even wouldn't tolerate - any besserwisser to tell us the _one and only_ right way of doing anything . (Btw:

[LUTE] Re: More digital facsimiles from the (public) libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread wikla
So then, what is the reason of the difference between the way British Library acts and how for example the great Munich Library does? There are even many lute mss. in the Munich free scans already! Perhaps more capitalism and market economy in the UK? Less funding to culture? Just wondering,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Benedetto Marcello: Requiem, just in case...

2010-11-02 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, just in case any of you happen to be near by in Finland next Saturday... (I guess not many? :-) The Musicians of the King's Road (Kuninkaantien muusikot) will perform the Requiem by Benedetto Marcello first time in Finland in the Turku Cathedral in Saturday 6 November, 2010 at 9

[BAROQUE-LUTE] A question of the D-LEm6-24?

2010-10-29 Thread wikla
Dear baroque lute folks, yesterday I got the TREE-editon facsimile of the D-LEm6-24, which means something like ms. II.6.24, Leipzig, Städtische Bibliotheken, Musikbibliothek. The beginning of Peter Steur's analysis in http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=2type=msms=D-LEm6-24lang=engshowmss=1

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: upload

2010-10-25 Thread wikla
Dear Bernd, Mathias and the List... On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:19:45 +0200, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote: I uploaded for scientific and testudinological purposes a document we were talking about recently, PL-Wu 4142 (olim 2010). http://dl.free.fr/rEituM5II Well, big thanks again for

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Looking for the Robarts Lute Book (facsimile)

2010-10-24 Thread wikla
Sounds interesting also to me... Does anyone know, which is the code of this in Peter Steur's www-cataloque? None of the GP-... items did not name Robarts. Arto On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:06:23 +0200, Luca Manassero l...@manassero.net wrote: Dear List, I am looking for the Robarts Lute

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Losy is great...

2010-10-22 Thread wikla
Hi b-gang, Losy was an intelligent composer - less is more seems to have been his case? A very simple Menuet in ms. Wittgenstein f.11r is - at least to me - a clear proof of his wits. 50 years later some wannabe-Beethoven could have made his 20-30 minutes symphony out of Losy's less than 2

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Richness of our repertoire!

2010-10-20 Thread wikla
and display our better angels to the world. - Original Message - From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Richness of our repertoire! Dear baroque lutenists, isn't is amazing how huge and day

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: upload

2010-10-18 Thread wikla
Biggest thanks dear Bernd! 231 pieces, 339 pages, of great and mainly unpublished music! Brings lots of joy to us all! Thanks again! :-)) Arto On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:19:45 +0200, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote: I uploaded for scientific and testudinological purposes a document we

[LUTE] Re: Lute volume

2010-10-18 Thread wikla
I second Thomas' comment: I've seen and heard Bream play lute, I've seen and with some trouble heard something of Hoppy's playing, and I have only _seen_ Rooley accompanying his song ensemble, not heard the lute (it was in 70's...) Arto On 18/10/10 11:26, Thomas Schall wrote: I can follow

[LUTE] Re: dodecaphonic lute: Jelinek's Two-part Invention No 3

2010-10-16 Thread wikla
Beautiful! Thanks! Arto On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:50:14 +0100, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: This is just a (maybe daft) little experimental curiosity - some serial music played as lute duo. But it's real music from 'Four Two-part Inventions' by Hanns Jelinek (1949). He says that

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Corrrecting mistakes and mistaking corrections...

2010-10-13 Thread wikla
mistakes that are not written down... ;-) On 13 Oct 2010 12:43 GMT, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi schrieb: very interesting example! Of what decade of the 17th century this piece and coreography comes from? Well, all I'm aware of are his life

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