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Gesendet: Freitag, 23. August 2013 um 03:43 Uhr
Von: Bruno Correia
An: lute
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
But, do they sound lute like? The samples feature guitarrists playing
with nails and single strings...
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Gesendet: Freitag, 23. August 2013 um 08:55 Uhr
Von: Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@gmx.de
An: Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com
Cc: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Dear Bruno,
I own a guitar made by Mario Gropp and a vihuela
Franz;
Very well reasoned eloquently written response- you have made me quite
curious to see try one of these things out. I have an instrument of
my own that fits no historical classification but provides an
alternative tone color; a seven string steel-string guitar acquired
cheaply on a
I have developed something I call the Weiss Guitar. It's a guitar with 13 or 14
strings tuned like a baroque lute or even a g archlute. It works quite well.
There are a few other people making these multi-string guitars but they cost
even more than lutes.
Sterling
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On Aug
It's an interesting trend and I don't know what to make of it, Dan.
A few years ago I went to a concert of a well-known poster on this
list and the Francesco pieces were played on an 8-c lute and the
Dowland on a single strung archlute. It could easily be argued this
was standard practice
Dear Ones,
When speaking of polyphony on a steel string guitar, please see this link:
http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/berget-sienasteel/
A duet partner of mine, Paul Berget, recorded this years ago. He
recorded selections of the Siena in 2 recordings, one on lute, one on
steel string
used back in the day.
Let (s)he who is without sin . . . etc
Bill
From: Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@gmx.de
To: Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com
Cc: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013, 7:55
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Dear Bruno,
I own
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013, 7:55
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Dear Bruno,
I own a guitar made by Mario Gropp and a vihuela by Alexander Batov
and
am very happy with both instruments. I also had a Liuto Forte for
several years, which I unfortunately had to sell
Mostly, it's just a question of practicality. There are only so many
instruments you can afford to own and keep strung, only so many you can bring
to a concert and keep in tune and find a place to stash around the stage when
you're not playing them, only so many you can fly with, and only so
Again, the practicality is understood. What I should also mention is
that it influences the concert choice of music:
I have an 8c. To make best use of it I will play a concert that spans
a 100 years. ...because I can. vs I have a 6c. I will play a concert
that might have happened out of
Sterling-
Didn't I see one of your original prototypes for this at Cleveland, back
around 2006? The poor man's instant 13 course solution! I remember you
had a conversion kit, or plans for such, as well.
One can of course buy just about any configuration desired for what one
very fine
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte etc.
Sterling-
Didn't I see one of your original
If they called it a fake lute, it would not sell as well.
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To: List LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:41 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Liuto forte
Don't own one but have borrowed and gigged on. Funny sound, like a Steinway
classical guitar, but really responsive and loud. I think there is a place for
them in this world.
Sent from my Ouija board
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:05 PM, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
If they called it
There are rather poorly designed from the standpoint of visual
aesthetics. maybe with the exception of theorbo forte.
The swan neck forte is a particularly funny looking contraption.
RT
On 8/22/2013 6:30 PM, John Lenti wrote:
Don't own one but have borrowed and gigged on. Funny sound, like a
But, do they sound lute like? The samples feature guitarrists playing
with nails and single strings...
2013/8/22 [1]r.turov...@gmail.com [2]r.turov...@gmail.com
There are rather poorly designed from the standpoint of visual
aesthetics. maybe with the exception of theorbo
to
hear/play one in person.
Chris
--- On Tue, 12/22/09, luther maynard luthermayn...@live.com wrote:
From: luther maynard luthermayn...@live.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
To: mathias.roe...@t-online.de, l...@pantagruel.de
Cc: sauvag...@orange.fr, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Tuesday
- Original Message -
From: chriswi...@yahoo.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
It's a guitar, as confirmed by Peter Autschbach's jazz recording. If you
tried to do what he did on a real lute, the results would be entirely
the same about hearing the lute torture such perfect vocal music.
Mark Delpriora
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From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net
To: chriswi...@yahoo.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 10:10 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
It does sound much more
On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:51 AM, terli...@aol.com wrote:
I am sure a singer of Josquin des Prez
felt the same about hearing the lute torture such perfect vocal music.
Unless, as is not unlikely, the singer and the lute player were the
same person.
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From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
To: Lutelist list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 10:55 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:51 AM, terli...@aol.com wrote:
I am sure
torturing lute repertoire, and I was really grateful for bypassing the
guitar myself.
RT
- Original Message - From: chriswi...@yahoo.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
It's a guitar, as confirmed by Peter Autschbach's jazz
Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 11:56 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
felt the same about hearing the lute torture such perfect vocal music.
Unless he was a practitioner of both, more often than not. Couldn't say that
about them guitar students.
RT
(fresh out a voice lesson).
=
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To get
A student at 48, in fact.
Got a NYSCA grant to study Ukrainian epic singing.
RT
From: terli...@aol.com
and written with the cattiness of a student...a freshman maybe?
Except the students you heard play for Hoppy were young (one was 19) and
you are ?
Mark
From: Roman Turovsky
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote:
A student at 48, in fact.
Got a NYSCA grant to study Ukrainian epic singing.
The coolest thing! Congratulations!
David
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Bedanckt!
RT
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From: David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com
To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net
wrote
(Note that one puny bongo drum, played lightly by an inexpert player,
can easily cover up the sound of 50+ classical guitars.)
Is that what happened to the 50 Guitars of Tommy Garrett? - Driven off by
half a bongo!
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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An: Mark Wheeler; Sauvage Valéry; lute
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Dear Mark,
where did you get Eric Bellocq's promotion text from? It sounds indeed
a little silly - but given how much work he semed to have invested in
research on Bach suites, and finally
To each his own, but it sounds more like a Guitar than a Lute to my
ears.
LM
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:54:00 +
To: l...@pantagruel.de
CC: sauvag...@orange.fr; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: mathias.roe...@t-online.de
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
http
00:20
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I think it sounds somewhere between the alt-guitar that Goran Sollscher
plays and a lute. It has less sustain in the upper register than a
guitar.
I want one!
Best,
Mark Delpriora
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An: terlizzi; lute
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Hi,
As said, IMHO, (in my VERY humble opinion, only tested against lute
audios and CDs as well as against my not very good renaissance lute,
never tested with an expert), the sound of the lute is extremely
flexible
...@t-online.de
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
http://www.liuto-forte.com/ click on folder Literatur/Audio, then
on
Demoaufnahmen on the left (Oliver Holzenburg, Anett Bartuschka,
Christian Hostettler, Luciano Contini, Peter Autschbach).
Mathias
Edward
What is interesting to read on the Liuto Forte site is their
argumentation...
One example about frets :
The commonly heard argument, that movability of the frets was retained
for the purpose of finely adjusting unequal temperament, does not pay
enough attention to the fact
At players' meetings, I try to make players of HIP lutes (of several
kinds), acoustic guitars (of several kinds), and wandervogel lutes (of
several kinds) mingle in playing from a modern score, e. g. dances from
Susato, each one playing a single-line part.
One of the resulting effects that I aim
Dear Matthias and All,
I highly appreciate your discussion remarks on the liuto forte (and in
general). Your critical remarks may be quite adequate, but for now they
will not change my love of the instrument. I keep open-minded, and am
particularly keen to directly compare the
Franz, you deserve a compliment. You say you LF has a good tone, but
of course you are aware that the player makes the tone. A good player
can make any instrument sound good, as a bad player can make the best
possible instrument sound bad. Perhaps nowhere more true than on a
lute.
On Mon, Dec 21,
Franz, you deserve a compliment. You say you LF has a good tone, but
of course you are aware that the player makes the tone. A good player
can make any instrument sound good, as a bad player can make the best
possible instrument sound bad. Perhaps nowhere more true than on a
lute.
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of Roman Turovsky
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:31 PM
To: terli...@aol.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
OR suitable for a guitarist who is NOT sick
,
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, terli...@aol.com
terli...@aol.com
wrote:
From: terli...@aol.com
terli...@aol.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009,
9:30 AM
I write at the risk of being gummed
to death by a horde
and transcribed by guitarists everywhere.
Eugene
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Wheeler
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 10:27 AM
To: 'Sauvage Valéry'; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Well
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Wow. I don't believe there is good evidence Bach wrote anything at all
specifically for proper lutes. The case for some of the lute works being
intended for hypothetical lute seems better than
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Well, the problem is that AB's JSB tunins is not hypothetical, but is
rather based on a real (albeit rare) angelique tuning, that does in fact
remove all difficulties from JSB's lute works.
I personally find it plausible.
RT
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From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu
An intriguing point regarding angelique tuning. However, arguing there
must
be six J.S. Bach suites specifically for some incarnation of lute because
there is that number known for cello still seems silly. I didn't realize
Bach was writing to fill
: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Well if you find playing a guitar in form of a lute saying it is a
lute
strange then have a look at this promotion text from the same
lutenist..
It is assumed that Bach, just as for the violin and the cello,
composed six
solo suites for lute. But only a few
I don't see how it's substantially different from any other
instrument's repetoire. . .
I don't think it's denigrating to any instrument to accept that there
are very substantial differences in both quantity and quality
between it's repetoire and that of other instuments.The
missed his mark for solo flute.
Eugene
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From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:r.turov...@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:06 AM
To: Eugene C. Braig IV; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
From: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu
...@osu.edu; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I don't see how it's substantially different from any other
instrument's repetoire. . .
I don't think it's denigrating to any instrument to accept that there
are very substantial differences in both quantity
On Dec 21, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
That often played out in publication, but I don't know how big a
role it
played in novelty pieces in manuscript, especially given Bach's
ties to any
actual lute (rather than lautenwerk or via transcription by
contemporary
lutenists)
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of howard posner
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:03 PM
To: Lutelist list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
On Dec 21, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
That often played
On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:00 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com
chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
(Note that one puny bongo drum, played lightly by an inexpert
player, can easily cover up the sound of 50+ classical guitars.)
As the tympani, bass drum, cymbals, tam-tam, or gong (and, I'm sure,
other percussion
rondeau, menuets 1 et 2, bourrée, gigue.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von Franz Mechsner
Gesendet: Montag, 21. Dezember 2009 17:09
An: Mark Wheeler; Sauvage Valéry; lute
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Dear Mark
chriswi...@yahoo.com 12/21/2009 10:00 AM
OK, it has finally come to this ;-)
First, check out this modern abomination of many guitars:
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ARQsw4ml8g
(Note that one puny bongo drum, played lightly by an inexpert player,
can easily cover up the
Greet
Belgian Lute Society
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens
lute
Verzonden: maandag 21 december 2009 22:06
Aan: 'Franz Mechsner'; 'Sauvage Valéry'; 'lute'
Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
The text was used for a performance
So... what's the magic tuning?
--- On Mon, 12/21/09, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@gmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
To: Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 10:29 AM
Well, the problem
. Dezember 2009 17:09
An: Mark Wheeler; Sauvage Valéry; lute
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Dear Mark,
where did you get Eric Bellocq's promotion text from? It sounds indeed
a little silly - but given how much work he semed to have invested in
research on Bach suites, and finally playing
not satisfying. my opinion...
V.
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From: chriswi...@yahoo.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Valery,
--- On Sat, 12/19/09, Sauvage Valéry sauvag
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ALL guitarists with brains get sick of their repertoire, eventually.
I want to respect you, Roman - I do! I read your posts with interest
and even glance at your neo-baroque compositions from time to time. But
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Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
__
ALL guitarists with brains get sick of their repertoire, eventually.
I want
, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu
To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net; terli...@aol.com;
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
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ALL guitarists with brains get sick
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From: terli...@aol.com
To: chriswi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 9:22 am
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I write at the risk of being gummed to death by a horde of irate lutenists:
I don't know what kind of guitars and guitar playing lutenists here
.
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From: terli...@aol.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:30 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
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From: terli...@aol.com
To: chriswi...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 9:22 am
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von Sauvage Valéry
Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2009 15:58
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I'm not against guitar and guitar players (as a guitar player myself, on
romantic intrument ;-) but I don't understand why play a guitar in form of a
lute saying
: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 10:27 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
Well if you find playing a guitar in form of a lute saying it is a lute
strange then have a look at this promotion text from the same lutenist..
âIt is assumed that Bach, just as for the violin and the cello, composed six
solo suites
-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von Sauvage Valéry
Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2009 15:58
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I'm not against guitar and guitar players (as a guitar player myself, on
romantic intrument
I think the quest for louder and louder musical instruments is
inevitable. With larger concert halls more musical volume is needed.
And as listeners experience more and more noise in their daily
environments, they become less sensitive to lower volume music. And -
in addition to
Mark,
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, terli...@aol.com terli...@aol.com wrote:
From: terli...@aol.com terli...@aol.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 9:30 AM
I write at the risk of being gummed to death by a horde of
irate lutenists
I am a lutenist who does have a satisfactory
guitar- a 7 string, steel-string instrument that
at least gives a suggestion of Orpharion timbre
and is flexible enough to be re-tuned to Bandora
intervals. Wonderful change of tone color; only
problem is that ET makes it sound out of tune
to my
I've heard the guitar part in Mahler's Seventh Symphony done with a
steel-string instrument.
On Dec 20, 2009, at 7:54 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com
chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Already with Webern we may ask ourselves what exactly the
appropriate instrument really is. The Stauffer-style type of
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 9:30 AM
I write at the risk of being gummed to death by a horde of
irate lutenists:
Nope. I'm not anti-classical guitar at all. I consider myself a
musician who chooses
Ever played the Chaconne a Son Gout?
(not by PDQ Bach, but should be)
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Sauvage Valéry
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:58 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I'm
You mean Chaconne a son mauvais gout.
Ever played the Chaconne a Son Gout?
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Franz Mechsner
franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk wrote:
I have to admit that I am owing a LIUTO FORTE (9 strings).
Congratulations.
what is so terrible with the liuto forte
Nothing.
- in renaissance and baroque times
innovation was the rule...
I, for one,
Alright, I'll bite- What in God's name is Liuto Forte? (I must have
been out of the office for this one)
thanks, Dan
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Alright, I'll bite- What in God's name is Liuto Forte? (I must have
been out of the office for this one)
thanks, Dan
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To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:51 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
It is a single-strung lute and guitar hybrid designed by Andre Burguete, that
aproximates lute sound while purporting to have the volume of the guitar. It
uses nylon
An: r.turov...@verizon.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
OR suitable for a guitarist who is NOT sick of the guitar repertoire!
.. and is happy with finger nails.
Roman, Did you go to the the demonstration of the liuto forte hat
occurred at the Met Museum a year or 3 ago
My guess is that the producers of the event prefer the shape of the lute to the
shape of a guitar.
Mark Delpriora
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From: Sauvage Valéry sauvag...@orange.fr
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I went this year
...@gmx.de
To: terli...@aol.com;
r.turov...@verizon.net;
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
I heard a liuto forte this year at our DLG meeting on
Burg
Sternberg. Hmm, not louder than my g-lute...;-)
Greetings
W
to him.
Andre himself is a very good composer for his instrument, sort of
chopinesque neo-baroque.
RT
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From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net
To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:51 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
It is a single
of lute literature for them, especially Bach (and we all know
how hideous JSB sounds on classical guitar).
RT
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From: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net
To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:07 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto forte
It's true, I can't afford to play an actual lute, but I've played oud and
Cumbus enough to know I really don't like double stringing. Don't like the
way it feels on my right hand fingers and don't like the chorus effect
(which interferes with detailed pitch control).
I now play lute music on a
Sonically it's pretty trivial - you can't really hear the double stringing
unless the strings are out of tune. And must not add any volume or the
chanterelle wouldn't be single.
single strung instrument, not a trivial difference between HIP lutes and
Liuto Forte!
Paolo
Roman Turovsky
Yeah, I know all about chorus effect - but on an instrument as quiet as a
lute, it's a very subtle effect. Not worth the trouble of double stringing
IMO. (Of course octave stringing is another matter. That's audible, but
mostly, I don't like it.)
Sonically it's pretty trivial - you can't
Dear Doctor Oakroot and All:
I must say I couldn't disagree more with what Dr. O has said about double
stringing. It almost sounds as if he hasn't played the lute much at all. All
the
theory in the world will fail to convince me that this very subtle effect
does not in fact make a huge
The LF modifications are not nearly as drastic. The main being the
idea of gut frets absorbing vibration, while metal ones reflecting it.
As I recall the LF barring sistem is basically baroque.
site; they may be exaggerating the level of their innovation.
In fact, that's the general
The LF modifications are not nearly as drastic. The main being the idea
of
gut frets absorbing vibration, while metal ones reflecting it.
They offer their instrument with the option of either metal or gut frets,
and either single or double courses. See their web site.
David
The LF tension
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
The LF modifications are not nearly as drastic. The main being the idea
of
gut frets absorbing vibration, while metal ones reflecting it.
They offer their instrument with the option of either metal or gut frets,
and either single or double
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
The LF modifications are not nearly as drastic. The main being the
idea
of
gut frets absorbing vibration, while metal ones reflecting it.
They offer their instrument with the option of either metal or gut
frets,
and either single or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
single strung instrument, not a trivial difference between HIP lutes and
Liuto Forte!
well, I've strung my chitarrone with single strings, and I heard some
people have their luiti attiorbati / arciluiti / archlute single strung.
I don't mind that.
Edward
I agreed, then found out to my horror a week before the concert that the
modern string orchestra numbered about 40, not including three
Double-Basses.
In the reduced sections of both, and slow movement of the the Vivaldi
(which
only calls for Continuo and Solo Cello), the archlute
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Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2006 04:28
An: lutelist
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte
I listened to the Oliver Holzenburg CD. There is no information
provided about Holzenburg's lute in the liner notes, but from the
picture, it appears that the lute is double strung with gut frets. The
sound
Posner; Roman Turovsky
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte
The LF modifications are not nearly as drastic. The main being the
idea of gut frets absorbing vibration, while metal ones reflecting
it. As I recall the LF barring sistem is basically baroque.
site; they may
.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte
This is conceptually different from taking
the concept of the lute and redesigning
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From: Luca Manassero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:31 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte
Have a laugh...
Here is all what you're looking for:
http://www.liuto-forte.com/english/index.htm
Sometimes nightmares come true.
Luca
Bruno
,
Stewart McCoy.
- Original Message -
From: Luca Manassero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:31 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte
Have a laugh...
Here is all what you're looking for:
http://www.liuto-forte.com/english/index.htm
Good gentles,
This thread brings to mind a concert in April where I was asked to provide
archlute continuo for Albinoni's D minor Oboe Concerto and Vivaldi's A minor
Cello Concerto.
I agreed, then found out to my horror a week before the concert that the
modern string orchestra numbered about
similar even if wrong sound? I think simply doesn't exist an archlute that
can win against such an orchestra. Actually even a guitar is easily
overwhelmed by a quartet of modern strings. The past year I've listened to
the integral of the Boccherini's quartets with guitar and the guitar was
On Jul 29, 2006, at 5:33 AM, gary digman wrote:
I wonder if lutenists of the 15th and early 16th centuries
felt the
same about the introduction of the 7, 8 and 10 course instruments,
not to
mention the theorbos, attorbiatos etc., as some of us seem to feel
about the
liutos
Roman Turovsky wrote:
There are some other players that use hybrid single-strung
instruments
that are almost L-F.
Tim Burris uses a single strung lute set up as liuto-forte
http://baroquelute.com/Archives.html
Stubbs, Moreno and some others do something of the sort too.
And Luciano
There are some other players that use hybrid single-strung
instruments
that are almost L-F.
Tim Burris uses a single strung lute set up as liuto-forte
http://baroquelute.com/Archives.html
Stubbs, Moreno and some others do something of the sort too.
And Luciano Contini's wire-strung
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