This thread reminds me of what my music theory professor
once told me about composition: "If it sounds good, it's good."
Given that no two lutes and no two lutenists are the same, it
is entirely possible that what works for one player on their
instrument may not work for a diff
However, once again, Mace offers this advice in acknowledging the antecedent:
"strike . . . your strings with your nails, as some do, who maintain it the
best way to play." Mace's implication is that nail play was also commonplace
and that tastes on this topic varied.
Eugene
-Original Me
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:43:07 +0200, "mathias.roe...@t-online.de"
> What I meant to say is that many of today's lutenists in fact were
> guitarists formerly. Having been so, most of is try to avoid memories of
> our dark past. I count classical RH posture one of those reminders.
Well, I must repea
Dear Mathias and all
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:00:13 +0200, "mathias.roe...@t-online.de"
> The reason why many players of 10c lutes and baroque lutes do not use
this
> technique is, or so I guess, that it resembles classical guitar technique
> much too closely (except for the position of the RH very
teve,
first of all I'd think about how to convert my 10c into an 11c lute, as there
are not exactly many pieces in D minor tuning for 10 courses.
Mathias
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> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace-- Not Mace Anymore
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:13:11 +0200
> F
Hi Steve,
perhaps my "inventory", "The Lute Book of Jollas" could be useful? There
are about 85 baroque lute pieces - mainly in facsimile form - to me the
original writing gives some extra enjoyment.
There is also some music specifically to 10-course baroque lute there; see
Bouvier and Pierre G
All,
OK, so with all this talk of baroque lute being somewhat easy to play,
I need to do something useful with my 10C baroque lute, once I get a
proper set of strings for D minor tuning. Does anyone have any
recommendations for easy pieces with which to begin-- something easily
ssage
From: "mathias.roe...@t-online.de"
To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 3:13:35 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
May I say that I've learned a lot from Thomas Mace's book as regards French and
English music of nthe 1620ies through 1670ies.
May I say that I've learned a lot from Thomas Mace's book as regards French
and English music of nthe 1620ies through 1670ies. And I particularly enjoyed
his music which I perceived as a blend of French texture and English folk tunes.
His tuning allows you to play all of that sophisticated
Thanks Chris and Tom...(and everyone else who chimed in...!)
Very good information!
Best regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: Christopher Stetson
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:27:40 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Agreed, Thomas, and ditto, IMO, for Molinaro
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> Warm regards,
> Brent
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> - Original Message
> From: Martyn Hodgson
> To: List LUTELIST ; Bruno Correia
>
> Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 3:13:55 AM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
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> The text, and what
both challenging to do well,
but for very different reasons. It is almost comparing apples to oranges (...to
inject an over-used cliche).
trj
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Shoskes
To: brentlynk
Cc: sterling price ; lute
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 1:38 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
I t
I was just restating what Mace said. Personally, I find the Baroque
lute much harder than Renaissance lute, but I attribute that to my
having played Ren lute much longer.
YMMV as they say.
On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:26 AM, brentlynk wrote:
Part of me wants to believe you when you
Turovsky"
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Ed, Sterling, Roman,
Y'all are totally nuts. Hitting the right strings is difficult, but only a
bare beginning. The right hand must negotiate so many changes of position
that achieving consistent cont
Chris
--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> From: Roman Turovsky
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
> To: "sterling price" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu,
> "brentlynk"
> Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 11:30 AM
> no, baroque lute requires a lot less
> physical
!
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: Roman Turovsky
To: Lutelist
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 5:53:04 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
There is sometning in the acoustics of baroque lute that make thin
(i.e. easier) textures sound good/interesting/meaningful.
One really has to keep
playing 11-courses (rather
than 10) shouldn't be too bad for me...I know all about the flying thumb
first-hand, LOL :-)
Best regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: Daniel Shoskes
To: brentlynk
Cc: sterling price ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 5:37:35 PM
Subject:
- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Shoskes"
To: "brentlynk"
Cc: "sterling price" ;
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:37 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
I think with the Ren lute it is easier to play a reasonable beginner
piece more quickly than with th
If you are, I think it's great and I don't mind a bit...
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: sterling price <[2]spiffys84...@yahoo.com>
To: [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 1:19:58 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:24 PM, sterling price wrote:
> Just because the baroque lute has more
> strings doesn't automaticly make it harder to play. If that were true the
> piano
> would be the most difficult of all.
If you try playing the piano using nothing but your right thumb on the bottom
brentlynk
To: sterling price ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 9:26:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Hi, Sterling and Ed,
Part of me wants to believe you when you say baroque lute is easier, and I do
recall having read that...the chords do seem easier than chord fin
rest of the weekend/enjoy it!)
- Original Message
From: Roman Turovsky
To: howard posner ; Lute List
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 12:14:32 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
P.S.
And I do own an 8course now!
RT
>I had an 10course, briefly in 1988, so I have some idea.
> The opinion is suf
P.S.
And I do own an 8course now!
RT
I had an 10course, briefly in 1988, so I have some idea.
The opinion is sufficiently widespread, too.
RT
From: "howard posner"
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more
space
I had an 10course, briefly in 1988, so I have some idea.
The opinion is sufficiently widespread, too.
RT
From: "howard posner"
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more
space between them.
Roman will correct me
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more space
> between them.
Roman will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's still the case that he's
never played renaissance lute.
To get on or off this list see lis
tlynk
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 11:30:52 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more space
between them.
RT
- Original Message -
From: "brentlynk"
To: "sterling price" ;
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:26 AM
Sub
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more space
between them.
RT
- Original Message -
From: "brentlynk"
To: "sterling price" ;
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Hi, Sterling and Ed,
Part of me wants to
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From: Bernd Haegemann
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; sterling price
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 4:33:06 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
If memory serves he also explains that you should disassemble your lute just
for
fun, to see
how easy that is if the lute is well built. Very good proposal, I even had
and I don't mind a bit...
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: sterling price
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 1:19:58 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
&#x
rling price"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:19 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
'easy' the Baroque lute is compared to those of the past.
Good luck.
Mace is absolutely righ
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
'easy' the Baroque lute is compared to those of the past.
Good luck.
Mace is absolutely right about this. Much easier
-Sterling Price
On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:25 AM,
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
'easy' the Baroque lute is compared to those of the past.
Good luck.
On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:25 AM, brentlynk wrote:
I am just about to get started on the baroque lute and any informed
guidance
will be wel
antly, I know this is the right place to be asking such a question
because you all "rock!"
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: Martyn Hodgson
To: List LUTELIST ; Bruno Correia
Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 3:13:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
The text, and wh
The text, and what it tells us of some contemporary practice, is
historically extremely significant and much more important than the
rather disappointing music.
MH
--- On Fri, 15/7/11, Bruno Correia wrote:
From: Bruno Correia
Subject: [LUTE] Mace
To: "List LUTELI
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