[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-29 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that David is using historical strings, so that the highest tension (17 kg) is on the treble end, and the lowest (.007Kg) is on the bass, hence his nickname David 007 OK, you asked for it:

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-29 Thread David van Ooijen
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56 AM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried 3 kinds of masking tape, no luck, tried 3m see through tape, works good--sucess! Though sticky... Will try it out this week on Uccellini et al. What brand masking tape did you use? Tesa (just what the local shop

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-29 Thread David Tayler
Tried 3 kinds of masking tape, no luck, tried 3m see through tape, works good--sucess! Though sticky... Will try it out this week on Uccellini et al. What brand masking tape did you use? Incidentally, I use bamboo skewers for the tastini. Using a sharp knife, I split them in half, then shave a

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, .. But I'm not really sure how to tune, the manual fails to explain it (at least for me) in nice and clear way. On the Finale list we say RTFM, which stands for Read the

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Omer katzir
Dear David, I think you should read that part again... let me write it again: A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, I'm still used to my old needle tuner, I always used them and now all the flashing lights confusing me. I read the instruction manual, it is great becuase

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Tuning with sound trains your ear, and therefore trains your musical abilities. Get a tuner that plays sounds, and tune unisons (or other intervals, if you wish). When your ear is trained, you will then know for sure if the lute is in tune; no box required :) The visual tuner is useful for

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuning with sound trains your ear, and therefore trains your musical abilities. Get a tuner that plays sounds, and tune unisons (or other intervals, if you wish). Couldn't agree more. Don't damage your instrument with

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Omer The Turbo tuner works very well for me, when the lute is already quite well tuned. I have preset the open strings, so I go into open tuning, and I set it to the auto mod. I tend not to look directly at the strobe, but slightly to the side. If it turns to the left, it is

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear David, I think you should read that part again... let me write it again: .. But I'm not really sure how to tune, the manual fails to explain it (at least for me) in nice and clear way. Sorry English is not my first

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Ron Fletcher
David vO wrote... I'm into bits of fret gut, held in place with tape, these days. The tape painters use, and lute makers btw, that doesn't leave sticky bits on your fingerboard. Though on one or two instruments I still have the wires, they look cool. ;-) I assume this is what I know as

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David vO wrote... I'm into bits of fret gut, held in place with tape, these days. The .. I assume this is what I know as 'masking-tape'. Can you elaborate how you use it on a lute? See the picture on on this page:

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Omer katzir
I have decided to try Just tuning first, still few questions remains. lets go back to the tuner: I'm in a very noisy environment sometimes (there's a kindergarden few steps from here...), how i can see visually if I'm tuned? (ST-122 just to remind) that's it, then i'm fixed (already have

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Omer There is a you tube film of how to use this, explaining the strobe pattern. I hope this is useful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9JB95DzVhU Anthony Le 28 oct. 08 à 13:21, Omer katzir a écrit : I have decided to try Just tuning first, still few questions remains. lets go back

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Anthony Hind
I see the new Turbo Tuner has corrected a number of problems that I found with the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD_U7YPFqKgfeature=related Compare with the previous Youtube film. The setting-up is far simpler. Anthony Le 28 oct. 08 à 13:45, Anthony Hind a écrit : Omer -- To

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to try Just tuning first I have never tried. Let us know if it works for you. I'm in a very noisy environment sometimes The ST-122 can be confuesd by ambient noise like computer fans. I use a clip on mic if

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Don't forget that David is using historical strings, so that the highest tension (17 kg) is on the treble end, and the lowest (.007Kg) is on the bass, hence his nickname David 007 dt See the picture on on this page: http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_f.html (scroll

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Are we talking Gaffer tape here, like to hold down a mic cable in a concert hall? Brilliant. dt At 06:41 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to try Just tuning first I have never tried. Let us know if it works for

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread David Tayler
Looking at the picture it looks like the no residue thin masking tape used for painting on wood surfaces. I'll try it today! Off to the Home Depot (where I also buy the redwood for the theorbo necks) dt At 10:47 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote: Are we talking Gaffer tape here, like to hold down a mic

[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II

2008-10-28 Thread Sam Chapman
Double sided sticky tape is also great for holding down wooden tastini (even permanent tastini or on the body frets). I normally use little bits of fret gut and normal sticky tape though - I've often left them on for a month or so and never had any problems with sticky marks. The guage of gut for