[LUTE] Re: stump?

2018-12-27 Thread r . turovsky
Indeed! I vaguely recall a discussion according to which the polyphant in question is misdated, and should be from the early 1700s. http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. > On Dec 27, 2018, at 3:35 PM, David Van Edwards wrote: > > It's just occurred to me that the

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2018-12-27 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Nancy, 1688 And the words seem fairly clear, 3 dozen strings and 5 wire strings to be played upon. David At 14:35 -0800 27/12/18, Nancy Carlin wrote: Or like a bandora crossed with lirone. So when did Randle Holme write this description? How many string might have been played on

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2018-12-27 Thread David Van Edwards
Yes somewhat, though the randle Holme version doesn't seem to have a fretted neck anywhere and certainly no pegbox sticking up beyond the frame outline. But thanks for the interesting link which is indeed a useful compendium. Best wishes, David At 22:36 +0100 27/12/18, Rainer wrote:

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2018-12-27 Thread Rainer
Looks like the polyphant on this page: https://earlymusicmuse.com/bandora-orpharion/ Rainer On 27.12.2018 21:19, David Van Edwards wrote: Dear Ed and Arthur and Rainer, Here is a link to a page I've put together showing the Randle Holme description and sketch of the Poliphant. His Academy

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2018-12-27 Thread Lex van Sante
Better still, the Bandura old style with a similar curved bridge and all. Cheers, Lex > Op 27 dec. 2018, om 21:35 heeft David Van Edwards > het volgende geschreven: > > It's just occurred to me that the arrangement of strings on the Poliphant > seems remarkably like that on a torban. >

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2018-12-27 Thread David Van Edwards
It's just occurred to me that the arrangement of strings on the Poliphant seems remarkably like that on a torban. David Dear Ed and Arthur and Rainer, Here is a link to a page I've put together showing the Randle Holme description and sketch of the Poliphant. His Academy of Armory is an

[LUTE] Re: stump?

2018-12-27 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Ed and Arthur and Rainer, Here is a link to a page I've put together showing the Randle Holme description and sketch of the Poliphant. His Academy of Armory is an unbelievably confusing but comprehensive descriptive list of objects from seventeenth century English life. Just above the

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2018-12-23 Thread Edward Martin
There is a short Wikipedia article on Daniel Ferrant, and it states: Daniel Farrant (1575â1651)^[1][1] was an English composer, viol player and instrument maker. He invented types of [2]citterns, the [3]poliphant and the [4]stump, along with the early [5]lyra viol.^[6][2] He is

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2018-12-23 Thread Rainer
On 23.12.2018 13:49, Arthur Ness wrote: The stump was according to Playford invented by a Daniel Farrant. It was also known as an English theorbo. He is said to have invented the Poliphant, a wire-strung lute-type instrument. Excellent - I didn't know that. This appears in

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2018-12-23 Thread Arthur Ness
Sent: Sat, Dec 22, 2018 4:09 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: stump? An Alman written for the lute by Robert Johnson set for the stump (a sort of theorboed lute) by FP. On Fri, 21/12/18, Alain Veylit <[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: S

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2018-12-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
An Alman written for the lute by Robert Johnson set for the stump (a sort of theorboed lute) by FP. On Fri, 21/12/18, Alain Veylit wrote: Subject: [LUTE] Re: stump? To: "LuteNet list" Date: Friday, 21 December, 2018, 17:43 ‘Alman

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2018-12-21 Thread Alain Veylit
‘Alman R. Johnson to the stump by F.P.’: odd to mention the instrument maker's name... Not that they don't deserve it, but it was not common practice. Could "F.P." be Francis Pilkington and the stump a type of music piece, maybe a ground? On 12/21/18 4:32 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: I’d like to see

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2018-12-21 Thread Ed Durbrow
I’d like to see that Johnson work. Sounds perfect (almost) for an archlute. On Dec 19, 2018, at 5:22 AM, Rainer wrote: > New Grove: > > An English plucked instrument of the early 17th century. It is known only by > name and by one surviving piece of music (GB-Och Mus.532), headed ‘Alman R. >

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2018-12-21 Thread Rainer
On 18.12.2018 23:50, Ron Andrico wrote: In terms of physical appearance, the stump was like a cittern with additional basses (theorbized). This is wild speculation based on nothing. It may go back to Brian Jeffery's review of Sundermann's Johnson edition (Early Music, Vol. 2, No. 2,

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2018-12-18 Thread SW
__ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Rainer Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:22 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: stump? New Grove: An English plucked instrument of the early 17th

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2018-12-18 Thread Rainer
New Grove: An English plucked instrument of the early 17th century. It is known only by name and by one surviving piece of music (GB-Och Mus.532), headed ‘Alman R. Johnson to the stump by F.P.’ (ed. A. Sundermann, Robert Johnson: Complete Works for Solo Lute, London, 1972). This is written in