] Re: tempos in Francesco Fantasias
Date : 12/03/2010 21:16:12 CET
I am not exactly responding to Susanne's message, but making a related
comment. I have been playing through and home-recording Denis
Gaultier's La
rhetorique des dieux on my 11-course. To guide me I have
Hi, all,
To answer (sort of) Suzanne's original question: personally, one of my
favorite things to do with Francesco is to play the same fantasia or
ricercar with very different moods. Ness 40, for example, is quite a
different piece played with a steady, sprightly feel or with a
The only thing I have in mind when I play a fantasia is my own fantasy... No
rules for tempo for such pieces (apart a few based on vocal models, where
you can follow the original song tempo)
My 2 cts...
Val
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From: Suzanne Angevine suzanne.angev...@gmail.com
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Try to sing the lines! Than perhaps you feel the right tempo!
W.
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On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Suzanne Angevine wrote:
Yesterday I got out a Francesco Fantasia I hadn't played in awhile. Its one
of the easier ones, since I'm not that advanced a player. But I thoroughly
enjoyed playing it - the counterpoint, the expressiveness of it. Later in
the day
On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:15 AM, howard posner wrote:
I you're talking about Paul O'Dette's 1986 Astree CD,
It should have been If you're talking etc.
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: tempos in Francesco Fantasias
On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Suzanne Angevine wrote:
Yesterday I got out a Francesco Fantasia I hadn't played in awhile.
Its one of the easier ones, since I'm not that advanced
tempos chosen to allow the contrapuntal lines to connect --
if the music is taken too slowly, it becomes disjointed as
individual notes die away before the next notes continue the line.
This betrays a rather low opinion of the modern listener's ability to
actually hear and follow
Ron Andrico wrote:
Personally, I think people need to relax and heed Dowland's harsh words
for those whose musical skill lies only in their finger's ends.
Ron, thanks for this. But I don't think I actually know that quote.
Could you point me to it? Thanks.
Suzanne
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On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Suzanne Angevine wrote:
tempos chosen to allow the contrapuntal lines to connect --
if the music is taken too slowly, it becomes disjointed as
individual notes die away before the next notes continue the line.
This betrays a rather low opinion of the modern
I am not exactly responding to Susanne's message, but making a related
comment. I have been playing through and home-recording Denis Gaultier's La
rhétorique des dieux on my 11-course. To guide me I have Louis Pernot's
recording of this work, which I have often found very helpful (though I find
60 is a very good tactus for many of Francesco's pieces for me. But
that is just me. Quite a few of the pieces roll along smoothly in the
56-64 range.
There is no reason whatsoever to to feel that one tempo is
historically accurate.
As for whether we live in a caffeinated, jet set society, it
On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
Hello Howard All:
I have to say that contrapuntal lines CAN actually connect at a
tempo
slower than today's espresso-driven pace if the player can relax and
resist the urge to push.
This is an important point along w/ Howard's
But
] Re: tempos in Francesco Fantasias
Ron Andrico wrote:
Personally, I think people need to relax and heed Dowland's
harsh
words
for those whose musical skill lies only in their finger's
ends.
Ron, thanks
: The cowl does not make the monk
Ron Andrico
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:47:25 -0700
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: suzanne.angev...@gmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: tempos in Francesco Fantasias
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