[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-18 Thread William Samson
weirdgeor...@googlemail.com; lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 18 May 2012, 2:36 Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce Yes, two different trees. Red cedar will be much softer. My music teacher (no longer with us, unfortunately) had a lute

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-18 Thread Jon Murphy
Spruce and cedar, sycamore and (something else I've forgotten). The taxonomy of trees is confused by the local names. The English have different local names than Americans (that is the sycamore, and my forgotten English name). The pear I turn for hollow forms is not the pear of Europe - it is

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-17 Thread James Jackson
Thanks for your advice, I've decided to go for Englemann. I'm going for grade 7 (Second down from highest on their grade) which the timber supplier describes as Near perfection - very slow growth, the widest growth ring approximately 2mm within the template area. Very limited

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-17 Thread Tim@Buckeye
James, To further confuse the issue, Northern Tonewoods offers Red Spruce soundboards. http://www.hvgb.net/~tonewood/acousticguitar.htm I'm in the middle of building an A lute with one of their soundboards. Tap tone is very clear and bright. I don't know how the lute will sound, but it should

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-17 Thread James Jackson
Shouldn't red spruce be synonymous with red cedar? I've heard of cedar topped lutes - from what I understand (And I really don't understand much yet!), cedar can work well on smaller lutes, A, B, C and D ren lutes. Unless I'm getting this wrong and red spruce IS different? My

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-17 Thread Mark Day
Red cedar and red Spruce are two different trees. Both are native to North America. red spruce (picea rubens) is also known by Adirondack spruce and comes from, you guessed it; the Eastern part of North America along the Adirondack range. Western red cedar (Thuja plicata) is native

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-17 Thread Tim Motz
Yes, two different trees. Red cedar will be much softer. My music teacher (no longer with us, unfortunately) had a lute built by Larry Lundy in the 70s that had a red cedar top and I loved the sound of it. I have a red cedar soundboard that I'm planning to put on a lute to try and duplicate

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Englemann Spruce

2012-05-16 Thread Louis Aull
James, The high grade Englemann I have used produces a very warm full sound. It is also by far the best looking wood. It has to be about 20% thicker than Alpine for the same strength. I have not worked with Alpine because the few pieces I have purchased (top grade) were of poor