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From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lute Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: Lute song with low male voice
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the highest voice all the time? You
could as well favour the lowest instead.
Best wishes,
Stewart.
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From: James di Properzio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:00 PM
Subject: Lute song with low male voice
Does anyone
Jon, Stewart, David, Sean, Stephan et al...
Thanks for such a fascinating discussion. I do think the lighter
ballad voice will work for many songs--especially as I'm relatively
young and can stretch it a bit. Also, as I mentioned in the other
thread, the lute in question is nominally G but
, January 16, 2004 8:00 PM
Subject: Lute song with low male voice
Does anyone recommend--or have advice from experience with--lute
songs
that work well with bass or baritone voice? It doesn't seem that
pieces
written for high voice sound right when you pitch them down.
If there is some
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 07:38 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
...the bass singer simply sings the bass line. As long as the lute
covers all the parts, the music is complete in itself, and the
singer sings the part which naturally suits his voice. If there are
other singers who can join in,
David,
I wonder if there is a bit of comparing apples to oranges here. What is a
bass line? I have sung a number of three part motets (admittedly not exactly
Renaissance lute music), and recently my harp ensemble has been playing
them. There is a bottom line (or staff) but it often crosses in
Sean, this former tenor has just tried d'amour me plains from LSA Q, as you
requested. I tried it in my (now) natural bass voice which goes to G below
middle C and is most comfortable from C below up to g above. Then tried the
soft (light) ballad voice an octave up. It worked either way, although
Hmmm,
The Turpyn book and a few modern and baroque songs only?
If so, the solo repertoire seems very biased towards sopranos, altos and
female voices. Surely there must have been some technique for setting the
hundreds of motets, chansons and madrigals prior to ~1590 for tenor or bass
to
Dear James,
in my experience it is (or should be) possible for a trained
baritone or even a bass to give his voice a lighter tenor like
sound and sing most of the songs with a G lute, an octave down
of course, as a tenor would do. If you tune in a=415 hz it
works all the more fine. But
Thomas, David, Stephan,
Thanks for the positive responses. It would be hard to ask a tenor to sing
out of his range these days esp for any extended duration but to sing
lighter is perhaps possible. (Of course, later when Monteverdi co.
offered a single line w/ a bc accompaniment and lutes
Though not technically 'lute songs' in the tradition of Dowland, Barbara
Strozzi wrote two songs specifically for bass voice and BC.
Opus 2, 1651:2.08 'La crudele, che non sente, non vede, non parla
Dagl' abissi del mio core' can be found in the Cornetto (
http://www.faksimiles.org/ )
Does anyone recommend--or have advice from experience with--lute songs
that work well with bass or baritone voice? It doesn't seem that pieces
written for high voice sound right when you pitch them down.
If there is some obvious repertoire that I'm missing, let me know that, too!
-James di
I've played some music of the Sautscheck familiy (baroque lute) with a
bariton. they seem to work well.
Best wishes
Thomas
Am Fre, 2004-01-16 um 21.00 schrieb James di Properzio:
Does anyone recommend--or have advice from experience with--lute songs
that work well with bass or baritone
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